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  • J: Hello, lovely people.

  • J: Welcome to reacting to our teenage photos.

  • J: It's a follow-up to reacting to our childhood photos.

  • C: You know what? I don't know if there's enough teenage photos of me.

  • C: It's like they're all packed away hidden in the deepest, darkest corners of the attic.

  • J: Yeah, I should probably also mention that

  • the latter part of my teenager years, I was really, really thin

  • and then I destroyed all the evidence of that.

  • C: Mine are mainly like cute childhood pictures because they're like albums that my mum made and it's like,

  • C: 'Aww, how cute you were.' J: There's no awkward stage?

  • C: No, no. I definitely had an awkward stage.

  • J: So, hi. If you don't know, I'm Jessica; this is Claudia.

  • J: We're married. If you enjoy awesome lesbians, you should subscribe, because

  • lesbians are awesome.

  • C: And we like to class ourselves as that, clearly.

  • J: Awesome lesbians. Who doesn't wanna class themselves as an awesome lesbian?

  • J: So we're classifying "teenage" as twelve or thirteen?

  • J: Because I feel like at twelve you start doing teenage things.

  • J: I'm gonna start with...

  • J: what I looked like when I was

  • J: This is when I was twelve. C: Aww. That's quite sweet.

  • J: Here I am with my daddy, dancing.

  • J: Er, and as you can see, I had very long, blonde hair back in the day.

  • C: Yeah, it is long. J: Yes, I actually had blonde hair.

  • J: I still do.

  • J: It's from a box. C: You look pretty sleepy in that picture.

  • J: I look sleepy?

  • C: Are you sleepy or...is that just your eyes?

  • J: I mean...they're not huge now.

  • C: Maybe you were sleepy. It is night-time, look. J: It is night-time.

  • J: This I think is Christmas at my grandparents.

  • J: My family love a good boogie.

  • J: OK, show me your youngest from your pile.

  • [Cheery music]

  • C: My sister's kind of portrayed in this one worse than I am, but...

  • C: That's me in the middle with the sunglasses on.

  • C: Oakleys, in fact. J: Oh, hello!

  • C: I think she had just got sand blown into her eyes.

  • C: So, yeah. J: You look cool--I mean, what's this quiff?

  • J: It looks like you have some kind of cool 1950s quiff, though.

  • J: That's pretty--pretty fancy. Pretty fancy.

  • C: I love those Oakleys sunglasses. I remember I had to save up for them myself.

  • J: Aw. C: They were like dark brown

  • C: and they were like two-hundred pounds.

  • C: And in like those days-- J: How old were you?!

  • C: Twelve/thirteen.

  • C: So I basically saved up all my birthday and Christmas money.

  • C: My dad would be like, "Oh, you can wash the car for a fiver" kind of thing and I just saved up.

  • C: But! You know what? I still have those glasses

  • because they're obviously really well-made.

  • J: I think when I was that age, if I found a fiver I would take it to the bank

  • and make the bank put it in my account.

  • J: Like, 'Sir, please!'

  • J: My next one is in the phase where I decided I was gonna be cool.

  • C: How easy life would be.

  • J: Cool like other people.

  • J: This is the early noughties, clearly. I'm wearing double denim.

  • C: Yeah...

  • J: Yeah. Yeah.

  • J: I'm also wearing jeans! Are you shocked? C: To be fair, I wore double denim the other night.

  • J: Yes, but you actually looked good!

  • J: That's my little cousin. C: He's like much cooler than you right there.

  • J: He knows he is. C: Yeah, he's like...

  • J: He's like, 'I'm not in double denim, so my life's going well so far.'

  • J: This was like a skater phase.

  • C: Right. J: Because everyone in my school was a skater.

  • J: I think I hero-worshiped Avril Lavigne C: You are wearing jeans

  • J: at this point. I know!

  • C: You've got a little bit of bling - there's some gold buttons.

  • C: A little gold bit on your jeans there.

  • C: Like, you know, you're still trying to keep it girly.

  • J: Also, it had these big shiny buttons on. C: Yeah, that's what I just noticed.

  • J: Yeah, so...yeah.

  • J: It was as much me as I could make it.

  • C: Moving on to my next bling accessories.

  • C: Great grimace here from me.

  • C: This is when everyone wanted straight hair.

  • I wore like bangles and earrings.

  • J: The most pressing question is:

  • what happened to your head?

  • J: What has happened to the shape of your head, Claudia Fozard?

  • C: That is--I've got a lot of hair!

  • C: Because I've had it chemically straightened there,

  • but I've got so much of it, I've still somehow got body.

  • J: It's like there's none of it left at the bottom!

  • Because that's where it's straight and then obviously where it's growing out the top of my head,

  • I've still got some body, kind of.

  • J: It's like, 'Damn you, no; I will be curly.'

  • C: Yep. J: Aww. It tried.

  • J: It tried so hard. C: I remember when I dressed like that, though, I felt quite comfortable with myself.

  • C: 'Cause I was like, OK, like I was wearing combats; I was wearing little tank tops. I was like--

  • C: The girly, like, All Saints and stuff like that J: Yes!

  • C: were fashionable, but they weren't trying to be a gay identity figure or anything like that.

  • J: Girls in like tomboy-- C: "Comboy."

  • J: "Comboy." Combat. I was trying to get like combat trousers and tomboy-- C: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

  • C: That period suited me just fine.

  • J: And then that got taken away from you. C: Yeah.

  • J: OK!

  • J: My next one is the awkward phase.

  • J: OK? C: Oh, OK.

  • J: It's not--it's not great.

  • J: I don't even know what this outfit is.

  • I just know that the front panel zipped entirely off

  • and I once wore it to a party and a girl came up

  • and took either side of the zips and just went [imitates zips being pulled down]

  • C: Oh, my God. J: I was not--I'm getting hot now thinking about it.

  • J: I was not wearing much underneath, and by "much" I mean a bra.

  • J: No, I was wearing pants! I just wasn't wearing a bra.

  • C: Oh, you weren't wearing a bra?

  • J: No, and then she zipped the front panel of my dress off so it became a coat!

  • C: There were lots of like zipped up clothing. J: Yes!

  • C: Like, it was really weird!

  • J: And I think my hair's meant to just be like stylish

  • J: or something?

  • C: Yeah, to be fair, it would've been very tempting to unzip that.

  • C: And also, you don't even have enough material to CLOSE the coat.

  • C: It's just like...boob! J: No!

  • J: No, that's the thing!

  • J: So if someone takes the front panel, you're just like "Ummm..."

  • J: I tried, Lord. I tried.

  • C: I played golf.

  • C: I started learning when I was twelve

  • with my mum and her friend.

  • C: They were like, 'We're gonna start playing golf so we can play with our husbands. Why not?'

  • C: And then they were like, "You come along with us" and I was like "OK!" and then I was naturally quite good at it.

  • J: Uh-huh. C: So, I liked it because I was good at it.

  • C: But it was bit boring because I had to just play with boys all the time.

  • C: Yeah, and they always put me with like the older boys because...

  • J: She was too good.

  • C: Anyway, that was that.

  • C: I still play golf sometimes.

  • J: We have a lot of clubs downstairs if you want to go and take them out.

  • C: No, I just don't have any golfing buddies (apart from my dad).

  • J: Awww.

  • J: Submit yoursumé below to become Claudia's golfing buddy. Thanks.

  • C: I asked people at work and they were like, "No, it's boring." I was like, "Oh."

  • J: Aww!

  • J: But now you have badminton buddies C: Yeah.

  • J: at work, that's something. C: That is true, that is true.

  • J: This is when--I had always hated my straight hair, always,

  • J: and I like slept with it buns to try and make it curl - C: It's so funny, I hated my curly hair and wanted straight hair

  • C: and yeah. J: - and I thought the best way to get around that would be

  • J: to perm it.

  • J: That's my permed hair. C: That's a really bad perm.

  • C: It looks like you've just come out of the sea.

  • J: Thanks. C: You're like an Australian surfer, is more the look there.

  • J: Yeah...I was aiming for 1950s

  • and I got 'what the hell?' '70s.

  • C: You look nice, though! J: Aww, thank you!

  • C: You've got way more eyebrow there, have you drawn them on?

  • J: Yes.

  • J: For those who don't know, I don't have eyebrows.

  • J: This is a lie.

  • J: I don't think I'm wearing any other make-up.

  • J: Just--I just purely drew-on my eyebrows.

  • J: My next attempt at curling my hair,

  • I did get better at it.

  • C: Oh, yes. J: Just wanna show.

  • J: This is like--this is a year later.

  • J: I saw on a local message board

  • - by which I mean a literal notice board

  • that was made of cork and people pinned things to,

  • not the online version

  • - that someone was selling their mother's heated rollers

  • from the '50s and I was like, 'I've gotta get them!'

  • J: These things were no longer legal to be sold.

  • They're very dangerous.

  • J: So I would heat them up with this plug that occasionally sparked.

  • The little device itself got so hot it burnt a ring in my carpet.

  • C: Yeah, this is why they're not legal. J: This is why it's not legal.

  • J: And I'd put them in my hair and then I would sleep with them overnight.

  • C: Yeah.

  • J: And they were solid.

  • J: Like you wonder now how I sleep with foam rollers in.

  • J: These were solid blocks of wax in my head. C: Oh, God.

  • J: But I did it for the look.

  • J: I was dedicated.

  • C: And then you decided to pair it with those sunglasses.

  • J: They were the only sunglasses I had, OK?

  • C: I think this is probably next. I think I was trying to find a happy medium.

  • C: I don't know what I'm doing there. J: Is it..?

  • C: I'm wearing like-- J: Are those trou--are those...

  • J: ...shorts or a skirt? C: No, that's a skirt.

  • J: I see. C: But I'm having it slung around my hips to be cool.

  • J: Yes. C: I've got a leather slouchy bag,

  • C: rather than a handbag.

  • J: Is that an added belt?

  • C: But then I've got like a studded like grey t-shirt, which is quite like you know...

  • J: Butch? C: Yeah...

  • C: and then I've tied my hair up;

  • I'm not wearing any make-up.

  • C: Standing in quite a butch way.

  • C: And I've got the most-- J: Are you wearing men's flip-flops?

  • C: Yeah...

  • C: And like leather sandals, which were my favourite sandals. They were so comfy.

  • C: That's before Birkenstocks became big. J: What's with the bag as well?

  • C: That's a leather, like, satchel.

  • J: Uh-huh. C: Yeah...

  • C: So, yeah, yeah, sort of like trying to do my own thing there.

  • J: I get--I get where you were going. C: Yeah!

  • J: Sure. Sure.

  • J: My next photo involves your second favourite.

  • J: It's Walter! C: Aww.

  • [Applauding and cheering SFX] J: Aww, look at him!

  • J: Such a tiny puppy! C: He's so tiny!

  • C: Cuuute. J: Yeah, that is very first day actually that we had him!

  • C: Awww.

  • J: I know. C: We should definitely get another Bichon.

  • J: I [inaudible] Bichon.

  • J: I'd just like to point out as well,

  • those--I'm not like wearing weird wrist things as some kind of fashion statement -

  • I paralysed my arms

  • and my hands.

  • C: You've got a lot of body in your hair.

  • C: It's not really curly, but it's like...

  • J: I kind of just frizzled my hair using the heated...

  • the hot wax rollers.

  • J: Don't use hot wax rollers. Don't use heat in your hair.

  • J: That's my advice. C: Oh dear.

  • C: So this one is like I'm a bit older;

  • I've decided--I don't know, I look pretty happy in that picture, to be fair.

  • C: I actually really liked that top.

  • J: Oh, it's a top!

  • C: Yeah, it's a top and a skirt.

  • C: It was quite like--it had like a sequin-y bit. J: Ooo.

  • C: But yeah, I've embraced my curly hair by that point, as well. J: Yeah!

  • J: You look cute. C: Got rid of all the bangles.

  • C: Still not wearing that much make-up.

  • C: I really should have drawn eyebrows on.

  • C: I've got some really awful-- J: Oh, you're wearing eye shadow!

  • C: I know. I'm wearing orange eye shadow, I know. J: I can see it.

  • J: Orange eye shadow;

  • shiny red lip gloss...

  • C: It was the noughties! J: No eyebrows.

  • J: I'm not judging, I'm just saying. C: Look, this says--what does it say?

  • C: "2005"

  • J: Ooh, yeah.

  • J: This is the transformation in my hair.

  • J: I think I look like a drag queen.

  • C: We both had-- J: This was not my choice.

  • C: No, yeah. We both have professional shoots where we're just like who is that person?

  • J: Yes, so I was on a show called Britain's Missing Top Model,

  • J: which was about-- C: Was your hair that short?

  • J: They cut it in the show. C: Oh, no!

  • J: Yeah, so I had this blond hair down to here... C: I bet you were so sad.

  • J: Well, I just rolled with it.

  • C: OK.

  • J: Really, 'cause there--by the time there were five of us left who were all five blond,

  • and then we went to like a hair salon.

  • We're not all walking out of here blond.

  • J: And they wanted me to have red hair and two of the other girls to have brown,

  • and the other two girls did that classic America's Next Top Model thing:

  • threw a fit and were like, 'No, I refuse!'

  • 'You can't touch my hair; you can't do anything to it! You can take half an inch and that's it!'

  • C: Whereas you were like-- J: 'Whatever, friends, let's go!'

  • J: And so they just chopped my hair off to here.

  • C: Mmhm. Dyed it red. J: And dyed it red!

  • J: And I was like, 'Sure!'

  • C: And you were like, 'I like it; red suits me.' J: 'Cool!'

  • J: Yeah, and then we had to do this amazing photo shoot,

  • which was hideous,

  • because what is this make-up?

  • Oh, my goodness.

  • C: They made you look very old. J: Yes! They really aged me up.

  • C: What's with the whole hidden eye thing?

  • C: I guess that was all the rage, like, you know, with Gabrielle. J: Yes!

  • J: No, they cut my hair so that it just like fell over half of my face. C: Covered your eye.

  • C: It's quite emo, as well, isn't it? J: I mean fair, I can't actually--no, I could at this point;

  • J: I could still see out of this eye.

  • C: Oh, right, well. J: So they were just covering it up for fun.

  • C: They were like, 'You need practise. You don't know what's comin' for you.'

  • J: 'Blindness will come to you!'

  • J: But I'm gonna find all the photos from Britain's Missing Top Model.

  • J: People kind of ask me to make a video about it and my experience.

  • C: Yeah. J: But, um, I still find it quite traumatic to talk about.

  • C: I've still never watched an episode.

  • J: No, it wasn't a great time.

  • C: Isn't that really respectful of me?

  • C: When we were first dating, you told me that you on this show,

  • and I still never looked up and watched it.

  • C: Because you were like, "Oh, it really portrays me in a bad way and I'm like really embarrassed about,

  • and I don't really like people watching it."

  • C: So I thought, well, I'm not gonna watch it.

  • C: I wanted to find out about you how you wanted to present yourself.

  • C: Which is what is quite dangerous about online presence, because...

  • J: True, don't stalk people you fancy online. C: Yeah, or like Google them, you know?

  • C: Sometimes--well, actually, maybe you should Google--I think sometimes it's good to just check.

  • J: Just like Google their name and then "murder."

  • J: That's it.

  • J: If nothing pops up, you're good. You can leave it.

  • C: OK. That went to one extreme.

  • C: It's probably one of the few times you'll see me in a tiara.

  • [Jessica laughs]

  • J: True, true that. C: And I've got my hair straight, um...

  • J: You don't look best pleased about it, though.

  • C: No...

  • C: Probably 'cause I was starting to feel not very comfortable in this like forced way I was trying to make myself look like

  • C: I straightened my hair... Like, I remember my mum saying like, "Your hair's so nice as it is natural,

  • why do you want to straighten it?"

  • C: and I was like... J: Look at this. She does nothing to this and it's so gorgeous.

  • C: Yeah. I guess I just wanted to fit in,

  • but actually it's better to be unique.

  • J: It is. C: Jessica was desperately trying to be unique,

  • C: like putting heated wax rollers in her hair,

  • and I'm like, 'I wanna fit in!'

  • C: But you know why? It's because you were out of the closet, but I was in the closet!

  • J: OK! C: So, maybe that has something to do with it.

  • J: Sure. OK. People watching:

  • J: Do you feel like your fashion...-- C: Are you more of a conformist

  • C: or not? J: Yeah.

  • J: Is your fashion conformist or no?

  • C: Yeah. J: OK.

  • J: Here's another--just another picture I threw in with Walter!

  • C: Aww. J: Look at him!

  • J: 'Cause we both look so young.

  • C: [Chuckling] He does, yeah.

  • J: So I wanted to include that, 'cause...

  • J: Look at him! C: Your legs look nice in that picture.

  • J: Oh, thanks, baby.

  • J: Thank you.

  • J: Look at him, he's such a little cutie.

  • J: And if you thought my legs looked good in that one, ready for an embarrassing modelling photo?

  • C: That's nice. You're just getting nice pictures out; none of these are awkward!

  • J: This is--I find this photo really weird!

  • J: But thanks. C: I mean, it doesn't really look like you, does it?

  • C: You wanna talk about model shoots and when it doesn't look like you? J: Oh, yes!

  • J: Are we ready? Are we ready? Are we ready? I'm so happy for this.

  • J: Wow. C: I basically took my friend to one of those, like,

  • C: 'Do you wanna get a photo-shoot?'

  • J: Who even is this girl? C: So I took my friend for her birthday

  • C: and both of us did a photo-shoot,

  • and I just felt so awkward doing it.

  • J: Who is this?! C: And they did my hair and make-up--to be fair, I like the way they did my hair,

  • C: but my make-up, it doesn't even look like me; they just accentuated my Chinese-ness.

  • C: Which is fine, but, like, I don't do my make-up like that.

  • C: Even my mum afterwards was like, "They're nice that you have some professional photos, but

  • it doesn't really look like you."

  • J: They really made you look Chinese, didn't they? C: Yeah!

  • C: But I chose some good outfits!

  • J: I mean, I wouldn't say you look comfortable.

  • J: That's not a word I'd use.

  • C: I just remember the photographer like, 'OK, sit like this...'

  • C: She was actually very good at her job; she could tell I was feeling super awkward and she was just like...

  • J: This is the best one!

  • C: Whoa. J: Ooh, yes!

  • J: 'Hi, here is my professional shoot. I am willing to read the News at 10.'

  • J: This is so good.

  • C: We should do another professional photo-shoot.

  • C: ...We do. J: We do that.

  • C: I know, but one like-- J: Sorry, do you mean like in a studio where people do your make-up

  • C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. J: and hair and stuff?

  • J: OK. Well, I had my make-up done the other day 'cause I was gonna be on the news

  • (Sky News! I don't know, coming out whenever)

  • and she drew my eyebrows.

  • It weren't my eyebrows!

  • J: I was like-- C: This always happens, darling.

  • J: It's also because, obviously, they don't know where I want the eyebrows to go, because there's nothing

  • C: She was like, "Aww, but they always make the newsreaders look so nice with their make-up,"

  • and I'm like, yeah, but you have a specific vintage-style make-up.

  • C: Anyone can make your face look nice,

  • J: To their version. C: but is it how you--yeah, but is it what you like to look like?

  • J: That's very true.

  • J: Thank you for joining us on this whirlwind of emotion.

  • J: If you've enjoyed this video, please do subscribe; hit the 'like' button; share it with your friends.

  • J: Maybe join the Kellgren-Fozard club. That's a cool club where you get to see behind-the-scenes stuff

  • J: and that's cool. C: Well said, Jessica.

  • J: Thank you, Claudia.

  • C: Lovely.

  • C: Goodbye, catch you next time.

  • C: And 3, 2, 1, off-air.

J: Hello, lovely people.

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