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  • Hey, it’s Marie Forleo and you are watching MarieTV, the place to be to create a business

  • and life you love. I’ve got a question for you. Do you ever feel like youre meant

  • to do more in this world? Do you have this deeper sense that you should be doing something

  • that has meaning, that youre meant for big things but you just don't know how to

  • unlock it? If so, you are gonna absolutely love our show today because youre gonna

  • meet one of my most inspiring and intelligent friends, someone who I’m honored to know,

  • and someone who I work with.

  • Adam Braun is the founder of Pencils of Promise, an award winning organization that has built

  • more than 200 schools across Africa, Asia, and Latin America. PoP was founded with just

  • 25 dollars using Braun’s unique for purpose approach to blending non profit idealism with

  • for profit business principles. Braun graduated Magna cum Laude from Brown University and

  • was one of the first 10 world economic forum global shapers and has been featured at the

  • United Nations, the Clinton Global Initiative, Wired Magazine’s Smart List of 50 People

  • Changing the World, and Forbes 2012 30 Under 30. He’s the author of The Promise of a

  • Pencil: How an Ordinary Person can Create Extraordinary Change.

  • Adam, it is so awesome to have you here. Thank you for making the time to come on MarieTV.

  • Oh, my pleasure. My pleasure.

  • So youre one of the people that I admire. You have done so much in such a short amount

  • of time and one of the things I love about your book, which I’ve read twice already,

  • is that it’s practical, it’s inspirational, and there’s so much spirituality in it,

  • which I just find… I feel like were kindred spirits in that sense.

  • Yeah.

  • One of the things that you talk about and, you know, for all of us, we are the culmination

  • of the people that come before. And family is so important to you and I loved all the

  • stories about your grandma, Ma.

  • Yeah.

  • Can you tell us how she’s influenced you to become the man you are today and how that’s

  • impacted the work you do?

  • Yeah. She’s been a huge, huge personal influence. I mean, some of my earlier memories are her

  • making chicken noodle soup, rubbing my back when I couldn't sleep, forcing Kit Kats down

  • my mouth at the earliest of age. Literally when I go to visit her now she still feeds

  • me like I’m a 4 year old and just stuffs food in front of my face. But at the same

  • time, I mean, sheshe went through so much sacrifice so that I could be in the positions

  • that I was able to experience throughout my life and, you know, one of the things that

  • I always kinda grew up knowing was where I’d come from. And so Ma, my grandmother, was

  • 14 when she was taken out of her hometown, a small town in Hungary, and was forced into

  • a ghetto. Then from a ghetto packed into a cattle car and from there waswas shipped

  • to Auschwitz with her 12 year old sister, her mother, and 26 other family members. And

  • all of them were gassed the first night and she was the lone survivor. And so she survived

  • through this incredible series of miracles and knowing what she had been through, more

  • than anything it kind of forced me to take just a sense of greater weight of my life.

  • It’s like this person putput her own challenges in the back burner so that her

  • family could be better positioned in the future. And so, you know, throughout my childhood

  • and then adolescence and even until now, you know, I feel this great sense of not only

  • gratitude, but a commitment to honor her and the sacrifices of all of my grandparents and

  • great grandparents and ancestors before them.

  • It made me think about my own grandparents and my Grandma, who’s still alive, the last

  • one. And it justit brought tears to my eyes and it actually compelled me to call

  • my grandmother and to think also, you know, weve built some schools with you

  • Yeah.

  • ...with Pencils of Promise and I plan on building a lot more and I was actually like, “Wow,

  • yeah, the dedications. Why not dedicate it to our parents?” And I just wanna thank

  • you for that message because I feel like it’s something that I’ve taken for granted in

  • my own life and it was really awesome. And that brings me, actually, you know, thinking

  • about life and death and how important our life is, you did this incredible adventure,

  • a semester at sea.

  • Right.

  • And, you know, I’m reading your book and I knew we were doing this interview and I

  • was so excited and it was late, late, late and I was on a company retreat and I’m sitting

  • there and the lights are off and this was like this huge adventure. Youre on this

  • boat and then all hell frigginbreaks loose.

  • Right.

  • Tell us what happened.

  • So I grew up and kind of saw my path ahead of me and I think a lot of people you have

  • this profound sense that, you know, life is what it’s supposed to be in this dictated,

  • traditional path that usually your parents or your influences or your teachers, you know,

  • when youre a kid it’s like people are always kinda saying, “Here’s what I see

  • you doing one day.” And, you know, I was a basketball player at Brown and kind of had

  • thisthis life figured out and I saw this film that was shot all around the world called

  • Baraka and it forced me to realize how different people lived outside of the little bubble

  • of experience that I had… I had experienced. And so I went on a semester at sea knowing

  • that it was this around the world global voyage and I was gonna get access to 10 different

  • countries, you have 4 to 6 days to get out and independently backpack with no restrictions,

  • essentially. You know, they literally drop you off on Monday and they say, “Be back

  • on the ship next Monday morning or else were leaving,” and that’s how it works. And

  • so I thought, “I’m getting ready to break out of my comfort zone.” And our ship left

  • fromfrom Vancouver headed to Korea, and this is January 2005. It’s the first time

  • that Semester at Sea had crossed the North Pacific in winter. They had always gone the

  • other direction and this time they kind of went west, which would become east. And just

  • kind of this freak accident. I mean, it’s never happened before, it’s never happened

  • since, but we got caught in between 3 massive storm fronts about 800 miles from land. And

  • we tried to go down and another one developed and so we essentially got caught in the perfect

  • storm, for lack of a better term. And the morning of January 27th, 2005 we got hit by

  • a 60 foot rogue wave head on. Went over the top of this thousand person cruise ship, shattered

  • the glass on the 6th floor bridge. And getting hit by a wave, obviously, is terrible, but

  • the fact that it shattered the glass, flooded the area with all the navigational equipment,

  • and we lost all power to our engines is what, obviously, caused it to go really, really

  • downhill. And so we were essentially a sitting duck, this mayday call happens, and, you know,

  • I had a certain death experience. I knew the ship was going down, I was sure I was gonna

  • die in the next hour, maybe 2, and that it would be a painful death in cold waters. You

  • know, as far as possible from everyone that I knew and loved. And I think that when you

  • have a certain death experience, or at least when you kind of face the end of your life

  • Yeah.

  • ...the thing that happens is you suddenly look back on everything that happened before

  • that. And you don't ask who or what, you just ask why. And you think about kind of why am

  • I about to perish and why was I here. And the biggest question was what is my purpose?

  • Why if I’m about to die, why was I put here? And the things that I looked back on with

  • real value were always kind of centered around family or some type of service to others.

  • You know, it wasn’t when I was kind of accumulating anything related to myself, it was always

  • like I was here to maybe help somebody else. And so fortunately we survived and when we

  • survived and I was able to almost get like this second chance, you know, I was, one,

  • incredibly committed to finding out what that true purpose was. And then the second thing

  • was I was just super inspired to live in service of others and try and kind of not take any

  • day for granted. And I know it sounds a little cliche, but when youre sure that today

  • is your last day and then you get tomorrow, you live each day with incredible richness

  • and fullness.

  • Do you feel as you look at life before that incident and after it happened, do you sense

  • a marked difference? Because I know from reading the book, it’s like youve always been

  • someone who has that sense of soul, you had a huge heart, you always wanted to do the

  • right thing, but it sounds like after that it was like bam. Like, yes.

  • Yeah, I mean, I was a completely different person after that.

  • Really?

  • Yeah. Completely changed my life. You know, I didn't go into a semester at sea expecting

  • that big of a personal change, but I’ve always said it's kinda the best, most important

  • experience that I’ve ever kind ofthat I’ve ever experienced or personally dove

  • into. And I think, you know, part of it is just first exposure to a world outside of

  • my own that was so foreign, going into the developing world, being in India, being in

  • Vietnam, and Brazil, and, you know, townships in South Africa all crunched within a 3 month

  • period. You know, it just opens your horizons to such a wide place and going through that

  • right after certain death, the wave hit before we even got to a single country. It just changed

  • my perspective so that when I came home, that’s actually when I had the biggest culture shock.

  • It wasn’t going into these foreign places, it was actually coming home with new eyes.

  • You mentioned India, which I know something very powerful happened there

  • Right.

  • ...which would go on to kind of culminate in what’s become Pencils of Promise and

  • it’s, you know, one of the things that I love about the book and why I think our audience

  • is gonna love it so much, you guys are gonna freak when you read this, is that it’s divided

  • by 30 mantras, 30 chapters, and there are these wonderful guideposts and ideas that

  • can really help all of us not only find the true purpose of our life, but live that through.

  • And so I love this mantra, it was, “Every pencil holds a promise.” Can you tell us

  • the story?

  • Sure. So I had a habit that I decided even before going on the ship, which was I was

  • gonna ask one kid per country what do you want most in the world? I would have them

  • write it down on a piece of paper and then I would create this collage when I got home.

  • And I thought I would just, you know, have this really cool set of global interests.

  • And I expected to hear the things that I wanted, and so I thought a kid in one country would

  • say a house and in another country they’d say a car and in another country they’d

  • say, you know, the latest gadget or piece of technology. And so in the first place that

  • we got to, which was Hawaii after we got shipwrecked I met this beautiful young girl. I said, “What

  • do you want if you could have anything in the world?” and she said, “To dance.”

  • And I thought, “Woah, that’s really different. Maybe I’m gonna get somesome kind of

  • surprising answers.” And then in China a young girl said a book and in Hong Kong a

  • kid said magic, which was my favorite. And then when I got to India I just saw poverty

  • that was unlike anything I’d ever witnessed. And in particular it’s children, you know,

  • 4 year olds begging on the streets with 6 month olds in their arms. And you feel helpless

  • and I think that that’s something that a lot of people often feel, which is there’s

  • a big issue or even a small issue, but they don't feel like theyre in a position to

  • actually make a difference. And so that’s how I felt. And I happened to find this boy

  • begging on the streets and he was my one kid in the whole country and I said, “What would

  • you want if you could have anything in the world?” And he just had nothing. I had never

  • even considered that my life or another child’s life would exist in such poverty at such a

  • young age. And he looked at me and his answer if he could have anything in the world was

  • a pencil. And I just was blown away and I gave him my pencil and when I did, he just

  • lit up. And I could see that this idea that you can’t actually change somebody’s life

  • that youre too young, you don't have enough money or youre not in a position of power

  • and influence is actually ridiculous. It’s a broken idea and it doesn't exist. You can

  • provide one small act to one individual person that can really change the trajectory of their

  • life. And when I gave this kid my pencil, I mean, I could see this curiosity, this spark

  • of creativity, this sense of opportunity that he had never grasped before filling up within

  • him. And so after that I passed out pens and pencils as I backpacked through 40, 50 countries,

  • which led to then the organization being called Pencils of Promise.

  • That’s awesome and I’m tearing up because every time… I’ve heard you tell the story

  • before, but every time I hear you say it

  • Youre gonna make me tear up if you tear up.

  • It’s soit’s justit’s so incredibly sweet, it’s something that we take for granted.

  • I mean, I believe so much in the power of education, it’s why we do what we do here,

  • it’s why we do B-School. And, yeah, I justin love with this book, in love with this

  • message. So I’m gonna take it further so I don’t become a total mess. So fast forward

  • to the night at the Philharmonic. So youre there and one of the mantras is about embracing

  • lightning moments.

  • Yeah. So after the semester at sea I backpacked essentially for a year. I finished up my senior

  • year and just realized I was only… I was just so alive when I was travelling that I

  • wanted more of it. And so I spent all this time travelling and then I moved into New

  • York and I got this great job at Bain as a consultant and kind of was inside of this

  • ivory tower that I’d dreamed of being a part of for years and was learning a ton while

  • I was there and had this incredible training, but I felt so disconnected to the part of

  • myself that felt truest. Which, again, is something that I see a lot of people experiencing.

  • You know, you have to take a job or you have to move cities and suddenly youre kind

  • of outside of who and what you are.

  • Yes.

  • And you almost, for me, I think I wrote this in the book, but I felt like I was wearing

  • somebody else’s uniform all day and I would come home and the first thing I would do is

  • change into what felt like me clothes. And so I got invited to the New York Philharmonic

  • and I’d never been to the symphony before and one of my kind of classmates at Bain got

  • tickets for a group of us and we all went. And I went to this thing, just, you know,

  • with a lot of ideas kind of percolating, and it’s in the book, some of the things that

  • happened that morning and that afternoon. But there was this confluence of ideas that

  • was just stewing in my head and I watched as thisthis great group of people performed

  • this incredible, you know, symphony. Then afterwards they all left the stage and I was

  • like, “What’s happening?” and one man came out. And, again, this idea, I think it’s

  • kind of common throughout the book is that one individual who finds a sense of purpose

  • can create radical transformation not just for themselves and their family but globally.

  • This one man just kinda came out on stage and started playing this incredible piece

  • on a piano and, you know, he’s like playing really hard and his hair ishe’s got

  • like 3 strands of hair and they flying from one side of his head to the other. But this

  • enormous sound was coming out of him through this piano and I just remember sitting there

  • thinking, “That’s what I want. I wanna be passionate about something, just as passionate

  • as he is, about something in my life.” And even, you know, if it’s something small,

  • it just must be so fulfilling for him to play this piano right now. And literally like a

  • bolt of lightning, this name popped into my head, Pencils of Promise. And I loved it because

  • obviously the pencil story, you know, but promise is such a powerful word and it has

  • 2 completely different meanings. And the first is an oath or a commitment. I promise to do

  • something for you. And I think when you make a promise to somebody, the actual fulfillment

  • of that provides self fulfillment as well. And then the second one is this sense of potential.

  • Like, “That person has promise.” And so I really believe within a pencil, within a

  • child holding something like that in their hand, you have both the commitment from somebody

  • and you have the untapped, realizedunrealized potential. So this name was, like, perfect

  • and I was so psyched and just it felt like lightning hit me and I could feel like electricity

  • in my bones, my hands could feel like this heat. It was like going through my veins.

  • And, you know, it was one of those kind of what I call it moments where it happens and

  • once it happens itll never be the same after if you really kind of embrace and move

  • forward with that idea. And so I went home that night and literally wrote out the full

  • charter, I still have the document on my computer, all these stupid fundraising idea. It was

  • like, “Oh, were gonna have a saki bombing party and have friends come and the difference

  • will end up helping us fund a school.” And from that literally a few weeks later I put

  • 25 dollars in a bank account, just taking a small step to try and build one school and

  • dedicate it in honor of my grandmother, and everything kind of grew from there.

  • One of the things that I love about that story and that chapter in particular is following

  • the journey, I think for so many of us, we have those moments that change us and lot

  • of people write into MarieTV and they may feel stuck like the convergence hasn’t happened

  • yet.

  • Yeah.

  • And what I love about your story is it was such a demonstration of just have faith and

  • keep moving forward because that convergence will happen. It wasn’t like you got that

  • incredible insight when the boy in India said, “I’d love a pencil.”

  • Right.

  • And then turned around that very next day. It was like you kept moving towards and following

  • your heart and then it all started to come together. And the second thing I wanted to

  • say, and it was such a beautiful moment as a reader. When Josh and I met, my fiance,

  • I know you have a similar kind of experience, but when Josh and I met I remember he physically

  • bumped into me and it was the only time in my life this has ever happened where I felt

  • my entire body surged with electricity.

  • Yeah.

  • And it was so other worldly and it’s never happened since and it was one of those it

  • moments and thank you for articulating that, because I think a lot of us have had that

  • and have never heard someone speak about it.

  • It’s hard… I mean, the only wordsso I think those it moments, they happen a few

  • times in your life and then in thefor the mantra, I couldn't describe it as anything

  • other than a lightning moment because it was literally like a bolt ofit was just electric.

  • Yeah.

  • And I don't… I don't know that I’ve ever had something happen since then, but when

  • it happens if it’s, you know, if youre fortunate enough to have it, you have to move

  • forward towards that idea.

  • So the next part of the story is about, you know, you were still at Bain and you were

  • still working full time and I know a lot of folks feel because they have a job, because

  • maybe they have several jobs, it’s like, “Oh, I can’t go out there and make a difference.

  • You know, I’m stuck in this thing.” And I know one of the other mantras is about following

  • the signs.

  • Yeah.

  • Yeah. Tell us what happened.

  • So I was… I was still full time at Bain and I was working on this organization, we

  • had gotten one school built, we had broken ground on a few more, but I essentially had

  • to make a choice. And so the staffing manager at Bain called me in and very honestly said

  • to me, “Look, you haven’t been a very good employee. Youve been calling in sick

  • left and right and youve never called in sick before Pencils of Promise. So, you know,

  • were still paying you. You have to be loyal to this company or else, you know, it’s

  • your decision but youre choosing to walk away.” And so he kind of gave me an ultimatum

  • in a specific case that I had to take on. So I said, “Can I have a few days to think

  • about it,” and it was a Thursday and so he said essentially take the weekend. And

  • so I went home that day and I had just moved into a new apartment in East Village here

  • in the city and on Thursday nights you put out your garbage right in front of the apartment.

  • And there’s a street artist named De La Vega who’s really well known, he sells pieces

  • at Christie’s and Sellerbies, but hell also do ephemeral art. So hell tag chalk

  • on the street or, you know, pieces of graffiti that are gonna get taken away the next morning.

  • And so literally I walked home and the garbage, a cardboard box right in front of my apartment,

  • had been tagged with De La Vega’s most well known phrase and it said, “Become your dream,”

  • right in front of my doorsteps. And it was just so overwhelming and, again, I think

  • I think a lot of people, you know, they see these signs but they don't choose to acknowledge

  • them or, you know, you kinda have to have open eyes to find some of them sometimes.

  • But I… I prefer to live in a world in which I feel like I’m getting guidance. You know?

  • I enjoy that, I like that, and I genuinely believe it. I feel like there’s more than

  • just me and what I see physically. I feel like there’s something else that’s helping

  • guide me to achieve a higher purpose, and that’s why I survived that day from the

  • wave. And soso I saw that sign, “Become your dream,” and it was like that’s the

  • sign that I needed and so I decided that night that I was gonna leave Bain, start working

  • out of my apartment, and build Pencils of Promise into something that was more than

  • just one or two schools, but something that would build hundreds of schools.

  • Yeah, and so that was your leap of faith. I mean, you did that full time. You know what

  • I loved? When I was at your office, I don't know when, and you showed me that piece of

  • cardboard. It was like friggin awesome. How amazing. I love that you just took it. You

  • were like

  • I cut it out, yeah. So a friend of mine came over that night and we were talking and I

  • was telling her this story. I was like, “You wouldn’t believe it. Did you see the become

  • your dream downstairs?” She was like, “That’s De La Vega. Youve gotta keep that.” And

  • it started to snow and I realized it might even be ruined if I didn't run out there,

  • so I literally took my scissors and I went downstairs in like shorts and a t shirt or

  • something like that and it’s freezing out and so I cut it out and I decided I’m gonna

  • frame it and one day when we have a Pencils of Promise office, I’m gonna put it in the

  • entrance so that I and everybody else is always reminded of where this began.

  • So cool. Ok, now Pencils of Promise, it’s an actual thing.

  • Yes.

  • So youre going out, youre starting to talk to people about it, youre gonna go

  • to media parties, and the last mantra well talk about today is, and this is one of my

  • favorites, change your words, change your worth.

  • Soso that one was really a function of actual conversations with people. So I started

  • to find that I was in a lot of rooms and I’d never felt like a non profit person. I don't

  • think many people wake up and say, “I wanna not profit today.” People wake up and they

  • say either, “I want to create a lot of profit,” or I think a lot of other people also say,

  • Well, I want to create a lot of social good,” or, “I want to improve a lot of

  • people’s lives.” And those are the, you know, the distinctions between two industries

  • that are now called non profit and for profit, in my opinion. And so I spent a lot of my

  • time around other entrepreneurs, a lot of which are kind of in the New York tech scene

  • or, people like you, who are just doing incredible things and sparking a lot of people to achieve

  • their dreams.

  • Yeah.

  • And so I found myself at this kind of really snazzy media party, you know, one of those

  • typical Manhattan rooftops, kind of feel fortunate to be there. Got into this great conversation

  • with thisthis fund manager about investments and because I knew the startup scene, were

  • kind of getting into this really great in depth conversation. And were about, you

  • know, 15, 20 minutes in or something and then he says, “So, tell me, what do you do?”

  • And I said, “Well, I run a non profit organization called Pencils of Promise that I started a

  • few years ago,” and he immediately kind of shut off and started looking around and,

  • you know, asked me a couple of, “Oh, you do that full time? What’s the name of your

  • project?” And I realized

  • Oh, that’s a tough one.

  • Oh, yeah. And I was, you know, I was both kind of dejected and a little bit mad and

  • not so much at him but more at myself and I started to realize this was a recurring

  • experience. And so at that point in time I thought about, well, you know, I’m defining

  • myself and my industry through the language that I’m using and this language actually

  • does a disservice to our work because it’s the only industry that uses the word non to

  • introduce itself. You would never say that you, you know, if you worked at a car company,

  • you work in the non aviation industry. Ever. You say, “I work in the automobile industry.”

  • Right.

  • And so why don't we define ourselves by what we do and not by what were not doing? And

  • so I decided to say instead of were a non profit, were a for purpose organization

  • and I started sharing that on various stages, in various talks, and it started to get really

  • rapidly written about and then adopted and so now all the time I talk to people who don't

  • even know me and theyre like, “Oh, yeah, I’m running this for purpose company.”

  • Youre like, “Yes!”

  • Yeah. And it’s… I think that it, you know, it’s almost a different axis. You know,

  • you have non profit, for profit, what about for purpose and non purpose? Because I believe

  • you can have a for profit for purpose company, but

  • Amen.

  • Yeah, you really ideally do both. But shouldn't we celebrate what we are instead of what were

  • not? And then kind of develop this whole ideology around if you were for purpose instead of

  • just non profit. Why don't you build things that scale? Things that impact hundreds of

  • thousands if not millions of lives? And, you know, we as an organization, were a not

  • for profit by status, but that’s… it’s a status, not necessarily a business model.

  • And so we built a real business model that could build something to scale.

  • I just wanna congratulate you because, you know, we met at a summit series event. I remember

  • we were in this banginclub and were, like, screaming at each other trying to understand

  • what each other did and you gave me your card, I remember I hung onto it, and I knew. Because

  • my business wasn’t at the level that it’s at now, but I made a promise to myself in

  • my heart, I’m like, “I’m gonna work with that guy. Were gonna stay friends

  • and…”

  • We had 5 schools at that time, just so you know.

  • Yeah. Oh my god.

  • It was 3 and a half years ago. Maybe 4 years ago.

  • Yeah. And thenand then we have mutual friends but I was so happy when our organization

  • got to the point where I could contribute and build schools and I was like thatthere’s

  • no one I would rather do this with than you and I am so deeply honored to call you my

  • friend and I am so excited to continue to watch you and the organization soar and to

  • do everything that I can to support you, because I just so believe in who you are as a human

  • being and I so honor you and I think that youre a leader in this world and so many

  • of us would be really fortunate to follow.

  • Well, the feeling is more than mutual, so thatthat really, truly means a lot.

  • Is there anything that you wanna leave us with today? I know we talked about so much,

  • I could talk to you forever. Is there anything that you wanna tell our viewers?

  • Yeah, I mean, I would say my story is an ordinary person’s story. I mean, that’s why the

  • book, it’s called The Promise of a Pencil, but the subtitle is what’s really powerful

  • to me, which is How an Ordinary Person can Create Extraordinary Change. And I didn't

  • start from a place with, you know, millions of dollars of backing and no one really knew

  • who I was. I started with 25 dollars and if I was gonna share anything with a viewer that’s

  • watching this, it’s that you have your own extraordinary journey to live out, but first

  • you have to find your purpose and you find that by getting outside of your comfort zone.

  • And then once you read those signs that you will be inevitably surrounded by, youll

  • find the thing that makes you most come alive and take that small step and then follow the

  • signs along the path.

  • Adam, thank you so much for being here. I adore you. If you haven't already gotten the

  • book, you need to get your hands on this book. It is absolutely incredible, it will change

  • your life. If you have kids, you have friends, you have siblings, you have moms and dads

  • and aunts and uncles, anyone who cares about making a difference. Get them this book, they

  • will absolutely thank you for it. Thanks so much, Adam.

  • Thank you.

  • Now Adam and I have a challenge for you. What is your impossible dream? I want you to really

  • think about what you wanna make a difference in the world, how you wanna do that, and then

  • I want you to go take action right now. That’s right, go take a single step and then come

  • back and tell us about it in the comments below. Were gonna take a look at everything

  • and then I’m gonna choose 10 people to send you a free copy of Adam’s incredible book.

  • Now, do not wait forto see if youre the person who gets a free book. I want you

  • to go get this now because, obviously, if we choose you as the winner you can just give

  • your copy to someone else.

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