Uh, well, we're super excited.

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Thio, announce that some of the details around the Falcon heavy rocket are not our launch.

Rocket development.

Really large drug development.

Um, and, uh uh, There's something we have alluded to in the past, but, uh uh, I've only just recently, um, completed the design and have been able to increase the thrust on paler capable rocket considerably over our previous estimations.

So with with falcon, heavy will be able to put of basically well over £100,000 into orbit.

Um, and in fact, it's looking, like, at least on the order of £117,000 maybe even above £120,000 depending on what the final performance numbers look like.

This is Ah, this is a rocket of truly huge scale.

Uh, as we mentioned in the press release, this is Ah, um, £117,000 is more than fully loaded.

Boeing 7 37 with 100 and 36 passengers, luggage and fuel in orbit.

So that that that is, uh, really, really humongous.

It's it's It's more paler capability than, uh, any vehicle in history of park from the Saturn.

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And so opens up uh uh, a range of possibilities for governing commercial customers that simply on present with the current lifting capacity.

Um, if you compare eloping capacity to, uh, say the space shuttle or the Delta ble heavy which of the two most capable vehicles in the world today we're twice more than twice the Cape Taylor capability of those vehicles.

Um, so although the space shuttle is retiring this year, I think, ah, uh, America's There's something in America would be really proud of the fact that there's actually gonna be a vehicle, um, with twice the capability of the space shuttle that's gonna be ready to launch the end of next year.

The initial launch will take place from, uh, from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California, uh, where we have space launch complex for and but surely thereafter, we expect to be launching from Cape Canaveral as well.

So ah, so we will certainly have that capability on both coasts.

Um, and we expect to be launching felt heavy a lot, actually.

Whereas the Falcon nine can address about half the market, Falcon heavy can address Thea other half the market, which is the large governor commercial largest government commercial satellites as well as a CZ mission, as well as opening up new market opportunities for satellites and spacecraft that simply cannot be carried to space by the current currently available rockets.

So, um, s I'd expect to see, you know, potentially new opportunities arising because of Falcon heavy.

Also from a cost standpoint, which is critically important in space because costs have been steadily rising.

Cost of sincerely rising over the years.

Falcon Heavy represents ah, huge, uh, economic advantage.

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Harry cost about his 3rd 1/3 as much per flight as a Delta four heavy, but carries twice much paler to orbit.

So it's effectively six fold improvement in the cost per pound toe over it.

In fact, uh, Falcon heavy sets a new world record for the cost per pound orbit of around about $1000 so that that's that's a pretty huge leap.

Leap in and capability.

Um, yeah, let's let's touch somebody.

In addition, to represent a new world record in cost of cost a pound to orbit the Falcon nine eyes also designed to meet the NASA human rating standards.

So for example, it is designed thio before you to handle structural safety margins that have 40% above the actual flight loads that it expects to encounter as opposed to normal.

Satellite launches were designed to only 25% above the flight loads.

It also has engineered capability, so you could lose multiple engines in the vehicle and still complete the mission.

It has cross feed between between the course, which is the first time in Iraq it has done has been able to cross Pete Propellant between the course, Um and, ah, triple redundant avionics.

Um, and all this is such that so that it can launch people if need be and do so safely.

Um, also, it has has so much capability, sociable capability, that than any other vehicles that I think we can start to contemplate realistically contemplate missions like a Mars sample return, which requires two minutes not look capable because you've got to send, uh, a lander to Mars that has still has enough propellant to return to us.

So, um, if you try to do a mission like that with a smaller vehicle, you have to send several, do several launches, and either do over the rendezvous or do some sort of much more complex mission.

Whereas with falcon heavy, you could potentially do it with a single flight.

Um, yeah, I think that's literally hundreds of questions.

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So the paler to Mars would be about 1/4 of its payload city.

Leo, we're talking about Have something like £30,000 to transmit injection moon.

It'll be a bit maybe 30 30 35% of that.

So it's it's sort of maybe 30 £35,000.

What, more to make this right.

Make this more human acceptable for human race.

Is this sufficient to be used for space tourism or other human rating things?

Or is that more about where sure?

Well, the Falcon nine is suitable for transporting people.

Thio low earth orbit, like to the space station and back.

But Falcon nine doesn't quite have the lifting power to go beyond the space station.

Where's Falcon?

Heavy?

Could could go, uh, really much further than low earth orbit.

Um, Falcon heavy is about half the lifting capability of us of a Saturn five.

So, in principle, you could, uh, send do another mission to the moon just by doing two launches of a falcon heavy.

You know, perhaps what one that delivered the return vehicle to the surface moon and one that delivered the lander to service the moon.

Um and, ah, a SZ faras.

It's we're designing a CE for humans.

Standards are concerned.

Falcon nine is designed to falcon heavy and fucking, I should say, are designed to meet all of the published and as a human rating standards.

It would only be if this, um, some unpublished standard or some new standard that's adopted, that it would not be in compliance.

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No.

Yet but well, canine always said it would be about three years from when we receive from one to receive that NASA funding to conduct a demonstration.

And the gating factor on that is actually not the rocket, but the launch escape system on the spacecraft.

So about Falcon heavy would be, I mean, really cape of launching people.

I mean, I think assumes that since we've proven it out with a few, launch is really that there's no there's no change is that we are aware of that.

We would make a falcon heavy, uh, that there would be required to launch people, maybe changes to the to the spacecraft that it carries, but not to the launch vehicle itself.

Or, if they are, they're very minor.

So it's in the opens up a wide range of possibilities, such as returning to the moon, um, and conceivably even going going to Mars.

It would fire probably twice as many launches a CZ as a moon mission on your engine upgrades saying, Look, you're doing Yes, yes, Can you elaborate?

So who's your first or what?

Sure, So we have an upgrade in the works for our Merlin engine, going from £95,000 of sea level thrust to £140,000 to see little thrust.

So it's a pretty substantial upgrade.

Um, and we're also making some design improvements to improve the manufacturer ability so we could go to a high rate of engine production are anticipating.

If most demand ends up being like we think it is, we'll have production rate of about 400 restrictions a year, which I think would b'more entrance than the rest of world production combined.

As it is, we're already more than the rest of US production combined, although that's not saying much.

Unfortunately, um, we didn't have it.

So we're expecting to do an initial demonstration flight of Falcon heavy that that doesn't have a primary customer.

Although that could change, it will probably have some small, smaller secondary satellite's onboard.

However, we are highly confident of being able of announcing customers Will Falcon heavy for the second and subsequent flights?

Andi.

We're late stage discussions with both government commercial customers in that regard.

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Yeah, well, we actually even on Falcon nine have been launching.

Secondary satellites were launched some secretary satellites on the last flight of Falcon nine with the upcoming flight of Falcon on the 1st 1 that's going to the space station that will carry a couple of old com satellites.

So with every with most missions way expect to be launching secondary satellites.

It's not always with with the same dispense that would make it a little convenient, but But I think there's likely that most of all flights will carry Secretary settling okay free.

Well, uh, I think you should definitely count on Falcon heavy being there for the long term.

So it's said when it succeeds and certainly will.

Hopefully that is right from the initial launch, as it was with Falcon nine.

Um ah, the were starting off at at Vandenberg, but they will then be transitioning to the cape will be upgrading ah, launch pad at Cape Canaveral so it can actually you can process both.

Falcon nine NFL can heavy simultaneously, and they could both rolled to the pad.

We're also investigating the possibility that the cape of using one of the old shuttle pads for Falcon heavy Um, that's That's a possibility, but I default plan is to use our existing launchpad, but upgraded such that there's hangar where you compress the spell canine that rolls the pad and another hang a kind of 90 degrees where you compress the spell's heavy and either one of them control to the pats.

You have dual processing take place in terms of number of jobs.

It really depends on the launch rate, so I expect that number to grow over time.

But I think once it really gets going and we do expect more lunches to occur from the Cape than from from Vandenberg in the long hole with Falcon heavy because that the, uh, most of our commercial customers want to go to GTO, which obviously to Cape launches.

So expecting probably a couple 100 jobs.

It depends on customer demand.

So I'd say it's it's probably 2 to 3 years, but it really depends on what the customer, uh, adoption rate is.

I think I'm confident a couple other jobs when the cuffs custom adoption is high.

When we're doing several launches a year, I think we'll probably do as many Falcon heavy launches as we do Falcon nine inches.

I mean, our rough ballpark estimate is, uh, something in the order of 20 launches a year, of which roughly half a falcon heavy roughly half a falcon nine.

And of those lovely fixed the percent to 70% right?

Is this lot of wishful thinking?

What about competitors that are Prices must really be higher, but they are not.

In fact, I think we're unique in the launch business in publishing our prices on our website.

Where's other launch providers sort of treat treated like rug bazaar that they'll charge me what you think you can afford?

Um, you know, we believe in sort of everyday, everyday, low prices, you know?

Ah, and, um and we've stuck to our guns on that.

Uh, the Falcon nine cost you $50 million.

It's been that way for a while.

And the falcon heavy is, on average, about $100 million.

Um, so, uh, very, very confident of being able to maintain those prices.

Um, So and I say let no, let history be the judge here.

I am saying it.

We'll see if that remains true, but you have it on camera.

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Is that what's meant by escape velocity?

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Escape velocity is like this.

Yeah, it's sort of generally put in cynical units of C three, so Ah, uh, well, let's see.

We could do, uh, probably on the order of yeah, I think with a bit of a stretch, but you might be able to do it with falcon heavies.

Kind of depends on what kind of what kind of lost you really looking for?

Where the spacecraft that you're launching has some delta V capability, right?

Well, with this way, I I'm confident you could do such mission with two falcon heavies.

Um oh, if it's easier to get to the moon, Yeah.

If you had, if you had a sort of a small enough spacecraft, you could conceivably do it with one.

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Heavy.

Um, so, uh, it depends on how big of a spacecraft, How many people you want to send.

But I think you could slim it down to just do it on on one fell camp people.

Okay, I'm sure you could do it with with two falcon heavy launches.

Um, if your spacecraft held a little bit of propellant on waters, presumably it does because it's gonna get back from from the asteroid, too.

Then I think you could do it with two parking heavy watchers.

I think we know a lot about going public before we do.

So we want to make sure that we have a very predictable revenue stream because the public markets don't bet like surprises.

Um and, uh, but I think that there's a decent chance we'll look at going public towards the next year.

But let's say we will, but it's a possibility.

Uh, it's it's possible that we could face CLC acquisition interest, but But I I have no interest in selling, and I am the controlling shareholder in the company.

We've had some.

We've had some enquiries, but But then I I'm pretty clear with them that that, um, that I would not give up the controlling stake in the company because Space Basics has some, you know, philosophical goals of entropic goals, which may not be coincident with the goals of I Lost Govern Contractor.

You're, I think, I think, in the next year, meaning November.

December is when we expect to have falcon heavy at the launch pad at Vandenberg uh, the launch itself.

It's a little difficult to predict because, uh, you know, we have to go through final regular regulatory approvals.

That could be things that we have to debug about the rocket and launch site interaction.

So I think most likely what what you'll see is rocket with pat towards the end of next year on Go along sometime, Uh, in 2013.

Ah, but you know, I don't speak speak full for specific customers, but I But I can't say that there is a strong interest from both the U.

S government and large commercial operators in felt heavy, and that we are at a Nad Vance stage of discussions with both and part of what's needed to really get them too complete, you know, sign up to to launch is to not be the first, so Ah, it's always possible that a customer they may jump in at the last minute and say, OK, they'll Bill Bill do it.