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  • The Thirty Meter Telescope, or TMT for short,

  • might just be the most famousand infamousobservatory on the planet.

  • Which is impressive, considering it hasn't been built yet.

  • But what is it? Well, the TMT is just one of several ambitious telescope

  • projects in the works that promise to help astronomers

  • probe the secrets of the universe in ways that were

  • no more than a pipe dream a few short decades ago.

  • But the choice of site for this projectMaunakea,

  • on the Big Island of Hawai`i—has stirred up a storm of controversy.

  • Now, you might think, hey, you're SciShow, I know where you're going to come down on

  • this debate!

  • You want TELESCOPES!

  • And yes, yes...we want telescopes.

  • But, look, our goal here isn't to come down on any side,

  • but instead to show some of the reasons why this is complicated,

  • and share some of the difficult questions it brings up.

  • Let's start with the telescope itself.

  • Thanks to some twenty-first century improvements in technology,

  • the race is on to design and build the world's biggest telescope.

  • These projects are collectively called Extremely Large Telescopes, or ELTs.

  • The University of California and California Institute of Technology

  • were quick to begin making plans for an especially ambitious one: a thirty meter telescope.

  • It's called, get this The Thirty Meter Telescope, or TMT.

  • So theThirty Meterin the name refers to the size of the observatory's aperture

  • in other words, the diameter of the part of the telescope that collects light.

  • And that's… big. About three times as big as the biggest operational telescope of

  • its kind today.

  • You see, the TMT is a reflecting telescope.

  • It uses curved mirrors to reflect light onto a focal point, where the image is obtained.

  • The aperture is the diameter of the primary mirror it uses to do that

  • which may be one single mirror in smaller telescopes,

  • or in the case of big ones like the TMT, a whole lot of little-er mirrors that work as

  • one.

  • And bigger is better when it comes to seeing deep into the universe around us,

  • because the amount of light a telescope mirror can gather is proportional to the size of

  • its aperture.

  • Like this part isn't complicated...the more light-collecting area, the more... light is

  • collected.

  • Bigger scopes mean we might actually be able to detect the faintest of distant objects.

  • And that thirty-meter mirror will have nine times the light-collecting area of any telescope

  • in use today.

  • There aren't any ELTs in operation yet,

  • but once there are, we'll be able to use them to study some of astronomy's biggest

  • questions.

  • They will have the power to peer into the so-called dark ages

  • of the universe...when the first heavy elements formed.

  • They'll reveal the large-scale structure of the universe

  • when it was young, including the formation of the first stars.

  • They'll be able to examine black holes over time

  • and explore exoplanets with detail and resolution we can only dream of today.

  • Indeed, they'll be our best shot at finding truly Earth-like, perhaps even inhabited worlds.

  • In other words, this is big stuff...ELTs have the potential to do amazing science.

  • But there are downsides to being a really big telescope, too

  • like, the overall field of view becomes smaller.

  • And, more importantly here, bigger scopes are very sensitive to, well, everything.

  • You need the clearest, most ideal conditions to get good images.

  • That's where location comes into play.

  • You can't just stick a thirty-meter telescope anywhere.

  • The light from big cities would totally swamp its sensors.

  • And the nearer it is to sea level,

  • the more atmosphere there is between the scope and the universe

  • atmosphere that's full of turbulent air, water vapor, dust,

  • and other stuff which interferes with the light the telescope is trying to collect.

  • And to minimize interference,

  • you also want somewhere super cold,

  • so there's no thermal interference.

  • In some ways, the most ideal place for a telescope like the TMT is not on Earth at all.

  • In space, you don't have all that pesky atmosphere to deal with,

  • and it's super cold, as long as you can find a shadow to hide in..

  • like the shadow of the Earth, which is where the James Webb Space Telescope will be hiding.

  • But we don't have the engineering capability

  • to build a thirty-meter telescope in space.

  • The Webb will have an aperture of 8 meters. Still hefty, but not 30!

  • So, once they knew they wanted to build a really big telescope on Earth,

  • the TMT team went about deciding where would be best.

  • They had a list of five options at one point,

  • but the top two were Cerro Armazones in Chile's Atacama Desert

  • Either could have worked, but two others ELTs already had their eyes on Chile

  • the Giant Magellan Telescope with its twenty four point five-meter mirror,

  • and Europe's Extremely Large Telescope,

  • which will have a mirror that's about nine meters bigger than the TMT's.

  • A FORTY METER TELESCOPE

  • ! Lord this is exciting.

  • But! Having all of the world's ELTs in the same hemisphere

  • would mean that we'd be missing out on studying a big hunk of the sky.

  • So scientists decided the TMT should be somewhere in the northern hemisphere to balance things

  • out.

  • And so, in July of 2009,

  • the TMT board announced that it wanted the telescope to be built on Maunakea.

  • And then the questions started popping up.

  • So, first, in Native Hawaiian culture,

  • Maunakea isn't just a mountain.

  • I'm not qualified to teach you native Hawai'ian tradition,

  • but for a necessarily imperfect metaphor,

  • imagine someone told a bunch of Catholics

  • that the best place for a telescope would be on the current site of the Sistine Chapel.

  • Mauna Kea is a natural temple and a sacred place of worship.

  • And it's not just integral to their spiritualityit's culturally important, too.

  • Chiefs and priests were buried high up on the mountain,

  • and it remains a key place for cultural practice.

  • So why is it possible for us to build a bunch of telescopes on it?

  • Well, I mean, this is SciShow, not history show, but we'll do our best.

  • In 1893, the US Minister to the Kingdom of Hawai`i conspired with US citizens

  • and a bunch of other non-native people to overthrow the Native Hawaiians'

  • sovereign government, which, yes,

  • was a direct violation of international treaties.

  • Then, when Hawai`i became a state in 1959,

  • more than seven thousand two hundred [7,200] square kilometers of land wereceded

  • to the US. That included Maunakea.

  • In 1968, the state, in turn, gave management of about

  • forty-five square kilometers of the mountain's summit

  • to the University of Hawai`i and its Institute for Astronomy,

  • under the oversight of the State Board of Land and Natural Resources or BLNR.

  • Since then, the University has been granting subleases to various observatories for telescopes.

  • The university has faced opposition all the way along

  • though in the past, much of the focus was on the environmental impacts

  • of the construction projects.

  • Maunakea is the highest peak in the Hawaiian islands

  • and home to numerous endemic species ...species found nowhere else on Earth.

  • Even on the summit—a dry, volcanic landscape

  • you can find life unique to the mountain, like the hardykiu bug.

  • And there are also non-living natural resources to consider.

  • The mountain plays a key role in replenishing the island's fresh water, for example.

  • All of that is why the summit is designated the Maunakea Science Reserve

  • state-owned conservation lands.

  • Not helping matters is that, initially,

  • the University did build telescopes without conducting proper surveys

  • to understand how those projects would impact the mountain's

  • ecology, geology, and hydrology, let alone anything to do with culture or history.

  • They built five telescopes in less than a decade

  • before any kind of management plan for the mountain top was drawn up.

  • The first proper environmental impact statement and comprehensive management plan

  • didn't happen until the 1980s, after starting construction on a sixth telescope.

  • As 14 more telescopes were added,

  • environmental organizations and Hawaiian cultural communities banded together.

  • And in 1998 a state audit determined that the university and BLNR

  • hadn't held up their end of the bargain,

  • and had neglected the summit's cultural, historical, and natural resources to build

  • telescopes.

  • So, in 2000, the university responded with the Maunakea Science Reserve Master Plan.

  • It sought to make reforms,

  • including ensuring that any new projects properly assess how they would impact the summit.

  • Except, then, in 2006, a judge revoked the Outrigger Telescopes

  • Project's permit

  • because the university hadn't properly assessed

  • the damage that would be caused by construction, which probably didn't help in building trust.

  • And that brings us to 2009, when the TMT board announced

  • that it wanted to put their telescope on Maunakea.

  • So, the university filed yet another comprehensive management plan,

  • and the TMT board filed an environmental impact statement.

  • The board said that they've worked hard to ensure the telescope

  • won't have any substantial negative impacts

  • while groups like The Hawaiian-Environmental Alliance KAHEA, disputed those claims in court.

  • And then court battles continued for about nine years.

  • Native Hawaiian elders and others who say the mountain needs protection

  • blocked roads to prevent construction,

  • and in 2015 Hawai'ian governor David Ige

  • pledged that this would be the last telescope built on the summit.

  • Legal battles continued until finally,

  • in October 2018, the Hawai`i Supreme Court allowed the permit and sublease to stand

  • and construction was scheduled to restart in July 2019.

  • For clarity, we're glossing over a LOT of details here.

  • But the point is, it's complicated,

  • there are a lot of good reasons to want this telescope built,

  • and a lot of good reasons to not want it built.

  • Orto have it built somewhere else.

  • Yes, Maunakea is the preferred site of the TMT board,

  • but it's not the only one.

  • They have a backup location on La Palma in Spain's Canary Islands all lined up.

  • Much like Maunakea,

  • La Palma already boasts several world-class telescopes.

  • Why not go there from the start?

  • Well, the site is about 1800 meters lower in elevation,

  • which could impact the telescope's resolution a little.

  • Some scientists have said switching to La Palma

  • wouldn't really impact the science the TMT could conduct, while others disagree.

  • The TMT's own assessment of the site says it would be anexcellentlocation

  • that has thefull capacityto carry out the telescope's core scientific objectives.

  • Spain and the government of the Canary Islands

  • have made it clear they'd welcome the state-of-the-art scope and help ensure it's fully funded

  • plus, the site already has a lot of the infrastructure in place to build it.

  • In fact, the process of obtaining a building permit has already begun.

  • But, though the mountain on La Palma is not a site of current religious practice

  • or considered sacred by indigenous groups,

  • there is some local opposition from an environmental group,

  • which claims the site contains archeological artifacts and construction would harm native

  • species.

  • And there's even a back-up to this back-up

  • there's a site in Baja California that TMT scientists have said would also work,

  • and it doesn't have the same historical or archaeological problems of the other two sites.

  • Then there are also non-scientific reasons to build the telescope in Hawai`i.

  • Many residents of the islands, including some locals and Native Hawaiians,

  • would welcome the prestige the TMT would bring the state's astronomy program

  • and the hundreds of millions of dollars that will be spent on the telescope

  • won't hurt the local economy either.

  • But clearly, the ongoing encampment and demonstrations show

  • that some remain unconvinced.

  • They say the university has been mismanaging Maunakea for decades,

  • and they don't trust the institution to just suddenly start doing better.

  • And yes, multiple audits and court cases have found that

  • the university has failed its charge to take care of the mountain.

  • Sometimes we like to think that science is clear.

  • Gather data, find the truth...but science has to exist in the world, and the world is

  • complicated.

  • These Extremely Large Telescopes are going to be amazing scientific tools, wherever they

  • end up.

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