I'llspeakin, Actually, intermsofthesituationthateverybodyisinthemoment, grown a viruswise.
Yeah, well, wewillappreciatewhatgoodliveswe'vegot, butyou'vegot a wifewho's a fantasticsinger, a doorthroughtoentertain a greatpianoplayeronthesonthatyoucouldnipinthebackgarden.
Nevergave a footywith.
Socomparedtomost, that's notbad.
You'relockeddown.
Isit?
Yeah, wehavemeantoobad, obviously.
What?
We'relookingat a niceguyintheback.
I'm sureevenseeit.
Thisistheonlyposition I couldchargemeforwardanddoeverythingthat I neededtodo.
So I'm nottryingtogettheguynamedBobyet, butlet's moveveryfortunate, youknow, beingforsomanyfamiliesaswellon, Dhesaid.
Wewerefortunate.
A nicefamilytimetogethertoooften.
Now I thinkallwasn't I wassobusy a differenttime.
Soitisnicetoalmosthave a a recess, ifyoulikewithyourfamily, andmakesurethatwetryandusethistimeaswellastheypossiblycanbe.
It's a difficulttimeforeveryoneatthismomentwithbyforcehasreallyaffected, ourshowhassaid, tryingtousethetimesgoodaswecan.
Well, I usesomeofmytimeyesterdaytocatchupwithyourbuddyGene.
IfonDhecomeinthenight, thenationcoulddowith a bitof a bitof a bitofhuman, a bitoflightheartedness.
I thoughtthebestthingtodotocheereverybodyupwastoaskhimabouthistime, thatValencia, because I knowthatalsomakesyouchuckle.
Butactually, I mean, itwillbegoinguplatertoday.
You'llbeabletoseereally, reallyinteresting.
Brutallyhonest.
Talkedaboutthemistakeshemade, Hesaid, I shouldneverhavetakenthejobisinitself a brutallyhonest I tookthejobbecauseofmyownego.
Think I couldjustwalkintoitandyou'rejust a litanyofmistakesthewayweandhewassayingthingsagain.
Youknowaswellas I do, sayingthingslike I wasn't directenough.
I didn't wasn't decisiveindecision.
Itwas a completepersonalitychange.
Hesaid.
Hewouldnever, everbecome a manageragain.
Soitgotmethinking, andthat's a questionthatyou'vebeenaskedbefore.
And I don't knowifit's somethingthatyouregularlyvisitinyourmindbutevenknowasking, willyouorwhenyou?
Butwhenyouthinkaboutthepossibilityofyourselfbecoming a manageror a coach, whatdoyouthinkofwhatyourfirstthoughtsbuffets?
Thoughtswhenitwentoff.
When I thinkofmyself, maybegoingintomanagementsortoffelt I wasthinkingabout 10 or 15 yearsagowouldbepossiblyhassle.
Really, I usedtolookatitandjustthinksometimesisitwhereeverythingyougothrough?
I alwaysremembergenerally a sayingtonottomay, toto a groupofplayerssaying, Inmanagement, You'relookingifyouhave 10 momentswhenyoulookbackandthink, Wow, ifthatmeansyou're a topmanager.
Ifyouhavethosetypeofmomentsandandit's it's verydifficulttohavethosemortars, a managerandsomuchpassionandstressalongtheway, justjustwaitingforthatmomentattheendoftheseason, maybe a tollfieldpromotion, whateveritmaybe a lotoftimeformanages, itdoesn't call, Really, I thinkformanagesthere's a lotofthere's a lotofwhatwedon't see.
I thinkthere's a there's anactivemanagersandrightlysopressconferences, speakingtoplayers I don't everknow, thinkthatthemselvesthatoftenreallygottaplaytheactorallthetimeonDDE.
Butit's almosttoproveittothemselvesandthosethatreliefthinkwhentheydo a goodjoborthejob's overandit's gonequitewell, it's allrelaxedandinsomewaysandsayOK, I haveprovenmyselfas a mindthatyetonsometimes I lookatsomeonewho's had a brilliantfootballcareerandyougotinsomewherewithinthefishjob, withwellfor a numberofdifferentreasons.
ThinkYeah, Andi, I thinkthatstartedquitewellandgoodlook, too, and, youknow, whyshouldhehadonlystartedthetop?
It's greatthat, youknow, starting a leaguethatheknowsaswellhaving a secondjobthere, but I couldalmostimagineteary, possiblystrugglingtosleepinonhismindconstantly.
There's somanygoodthingsthat I loveaboutthejobthat I donow, and I justthinktobehonest, I think I'vegotoneofthebestjobsonTVandbeabsolutelystupidtotake a job, lowerdowndivisionsanddivisions.
I don't know.
Totryimprove.
I couldbeamountofnewMontanaprovedtomyself, ortryandproveittoeveryoneoutthereWhosays, Oh, it's easyjobon, SitonthecouchinuponthekidThat's easy.
Tooktheeasyoption.
I nevertooktheeasyoption.
Whatdoes a managerdowhenhegetssacked?
FaceThinghedoesistryingtotouchwithskyandseeifyoucangetonontheTV, thetimeforhimselfouttheretoget a newjob.
Lotsofthem.
Comeon.
Buttheholeplusseveral.
Okay, someonedecent.
Butjustbecausejustbecauseyou'regoodputitasprobablyGod, he's proven, ifyoulike, doesn't meanyou'regonnabe a greatmanagerbecauseyou're a greatmanagerdoesn't meanyou'vereporteditcompletelydifferent.
Eventhoughwe'respeakingaboutfootballandyouknowwhat I amdoing?
Ifyou'remanagingtheperimeterwiththreeorfourdifferentteams, I thinkyou'vegot a verygoodfamily.
Youhave a verygoodmanagerial.
Three.
I thinkit's reallywell, youknow, that's thetoplevelon.
It's likealmostsayingWell, because I wasn't powerMaldini.
Itmeansmycreatorswithmenothing, nothing.
It's notlikethat.
It's youknow, I thinkthatsometimes I look a lotthatmanagersomanagessomanymanagerstheydisrespectedbecauseourmore t bone, anythingbelowthejob, thattheyaredifficult, safe.
Wegotthem, youknow?
And I thinksometimesthatisgonnadismissthelittlebitwhenwetalkaboutmanages, really, Butintermsoffeet, ifonly I had a bigfearoffailureis a playerandthat's whatdrovemeon.
I do.
Woody.
If I became a managerthat I wouldhavethefearfaithagain.
ThatwoulddrivemeThio, meetme a bettermanagerandmaybemakemesuccessful.
Butyou'realsoworryaboutwhatitwoulddotomylifeandthepeoplearoundmebecause I couldreally, reallyget, youknow, emotionalaboutfootballstilldo.
Butas a player, whenitreally, reallymeanssomethingtoyoubeingatthehomecluballthetime.
But I supposeif I wenttoLiverpool I'm notquiteinanycapacityonyouhavethatemotioninvolved.
Sometimesindividualsgoagainshit.
It's verydifficulttoweartohandle.
Doyouthink I agespossibly a factoraswellIntheTobe a topathlete, youhavetobeselfishselfishismaybethewrongword, butyouhavetomakedecisionsbasedaroundyouandyourpeakperformanceforestlongaspossible.
Thewavesaboutinteriorstopsothewholewhaledoesn't solvethestockbecause I stoppedplayingfootball.
It's likewe'vegotthisfantasticlike I mean, I thinksomeplayersdothatwherethealmostretireat 35 36 theygoawayforfourorfivebeforeyouknowwhattheButyoucan't livelikethat.
That's notlife.
Solisten, I don't getyoudon't understandthesethingstoenjoytheCampbell.
Whatdoesittellusifyouthinkaboutyourcontemporaries, probablymorefromEngland, than a clublevelthathavebecomemanagersandthosethathaven't thenumbersthathavethenumbersthatstayedinthegameandtheonesthathavebecomemanagers?
I mean, theobviousexample, obviously, isStevenGerrardonthenFrankonepartonDoyougofurtherdownthelist?
YouthinkofyouryourEnglandcolleagues?
Actually, ColewasinvolvedincoachingChelsea.
Now J t is a swellschools.
HemanagedtoOldham.
It's quitehighnumberthathadsomeinvolvement.
Isn't thatisbecause I mean, whatelseyougonnado?
Peoplealwaystalkabouttoplay.
You'regonnabe a manageryeton a lotofplaces.
Youknow, Comeybotherwiththehassle, and I thinkwegettotheendoftheCuriaonthestockwaterwe'regoingtodo.
I wasactuallytheoppositeifyoutouchme.
Mytwenties, ifwewere a groupofplayers, whetherwithEnglandorLiverpool, and I wasmoretheotherwayasitgotclosertofinishit, I startedlookingandlookingmaybemoreofthepitfallsofit.
Andwhataretheiroptions?
Maybe I had.
I think a lotofplayersfallintocultureyou'd neverreallythinkwoulddidn't seemthatobsessedwiththegamewhentheywereplayers.
I thinksomepeoplegointoitnowaswell, becausetheydon't feellikethey'vegotthemostoutoftheirownfootballcareeron.
That's a that's a lotofboatstheoryandFrankmanager, MaybeJohnTerry.
Eventually, atsomestages, I thinkplayersofourgeneration, if I'm beingtotallyhonest, theyprobablywant a crackermanagementtoseeifyouknowiftheiftheygodown, ifyouenjoyit.
Buttheywantedtobeon a statelevel.
They'renotpreparedtogodownto a safelevel, Really, becausenoboatnumberone, youdon't knowtheteams.
Youdon't knowtheplaceyouneverplayedthere.
She's goingintomanagement's andputyourreputationriskat a levelthatyou'venever, everplayed.
Thatreallyso I think, speakoftheSteviejustwantstohave a gotmanagement.
Hedoesn't wanttobe a managerfor, likethenext 30 40 years.
Hejustwantstosortofhave a goingyouhave a crackatit, seewhereittakeshimandseehowitgoes.
Butthatis a bigthingis, well, reallygoingdowntolevelsthatyoudon't knowthepeopleareturning.
Numbertwoatthatlevel, I don't knowanyoneofthatlevel.
I'veneverplayedthat.
I don't knowwhatsystemsshouldplay.
Should I should I changemyphilosophydown?
Theyshouldgohomeordie a bet.
Howdidyougetintothatdivision?
Youknow, soyoudon't putyourselfoutthere.
Really?
Uh, andcertainlyinsituationsthatprobably, youknow, thatcomfortablewithintermsofexperiencewhenyouknowyou'vebeentoseeStevie a fewtimesandyou'restillveryclosetoyouspeakfrom a lotwhenhehastoldyouaboutmanagingisitisanythingthathehassaidsurpriseyouatallorhasmanagingsoundedexactlyhowyouimagineditwouldbefromwhathe's toldyou.
Buttobehonest, I don't reallygetgetreallydeepintopushingamongonSTquestionsaboutmarriagebecause I don't have a phonehimafter a badresult.
A textabout a coupleofweeksago, I sent a textthatyousentmeonebackbecause I know I wouldn't feelwe'vebothbeing.
Doyouthinkit's hardernowtobe a managernowthanitwas?
Saythatwhenyoureply, it's interestingthatone, because I thinkthere's moreattentionnowwithsocialmediaandfans, and I thinkwhetheryoulikesoshouldbenothing.
Peopleareclubsreading, butowners, CEOs, presspeople, theislandwaiter, whatgoesononhowthesportstofeeling, so I don't thinkthat's easy.
Itdoesfeellikethere's a lotmoreof a supportstaffclubsnow, too.
Notsomuchtolookafterthem.
Andyoualmostthemanateefromdelegate.
A lotmorethingsnow.
And I thinkwe'vefinallygottothestagewhereeveryoneinthiscountry, exceptthatthemanagerisjustthecolt.
You'rethemanagerofthatteam.
It's notrunningthewholeclub.
I thinkthosedaysaregone.
I thinkthat's a that's right.
I thinkistherightwaytogoistherewas a country, so I thinkpossiblydidyou.
Orbis a loteasierthanthatway, butitseemsthatthescrutinyit's onlyonlyevergetwaste, isn't it?
I knowmostobviousanswersresults, Buttogetthoseresultsforyou, whatisthekeytobeing a goodmanageratthetoplevel?
I thinkwhenyou'vegotwhenyouhave a I setofplayerswhobelieveinthemanager, wheredoesthatbeliefcallingfromaccomplishingthemanageralmostmoveofthemanager.
Eventhegreatestmanagersareexperience.
And I don't thinkeveryonethat's RussianRoommovedreally, causehe's gonnaupsetseeingpeople.
Butwhen I alwayslookatthat, thetoponesand I thinkoffiguresandwe'lllookupairqualityovernowontheclock, I think I thinktheplayersarescaredofthembutalsomovedthematthesametime.
Justwait.
I thinkthere's definitelysomethinginthatwhere I had a lookaboutLiverpoolhavegotnowwiththeclockonDDE.