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-We're back, and I'm talking to
the one and only Kim Kardashian West.
Thank you so much for doing --
-Live from my mom's glam room, 'cause I had --
-From your mom's glam room. -To keep away from my kids.
-Is that a painting behind you, or is that a piece of art?
Is that your mom? -That's a TV, and I don't know.
It looks like a kettle,
and it's just so bizarre, and then I --
-I thought it was like a head or something.
-No, it's so weird. I don't know why she has it.
But we can snoop through her drawers if you want.
It's just tons of makeup. -[ Laughs ]
We're in the glam room. -Yeah.
-I want to talk to you about
"Kim Kardashian West: the Justice Project."
This is going to air Sunday at 7pm on Oxygen.
What is this?
-So this is a documentary that I did,
basically following my personal journey with justice reform.
I started working with Alice Johnson,
who after 22 years was released from prison
from a presidential pardon.
She had a low-level drug offense,
and so I thought to myself --
I was a bit judgmental and thought to myself, like,
"Okay, I can handle supporting someone
that is non-violent."
Until I went to go visit prisons,
and I started to meet with so many people
that are incarcerated that shared their stories with me
and explained to me that maybe when they were
14 years old, they did a horrific crime
because they saw all of that growing up in their lives,
and then is now locked away for the rest of their lives,
but they've totally rehabilitated themselves
and are now 30, 40, 50.
And I heard this story so many times,
and it just broke my heart that because people have done
some horrific things -- and I do believe people
that do a crime have to do the time,
but it's just a matter of like, what is fair.
-Yeah. -And I think our society
really throws people away, so I feel like,
ultimately everyone just wants to feel safe in society.
Right? So, when Alice came out,
you saw her face and you understood that, okay,
well, this is what reform looks like.
She would be totally amazing in our society,
but if you think about someone that had murdered someone,
you wouldn't really think that.
And so I wanted to kind of open the door to that
as I was learning it myself. -Yeah.
-Show a sex-trafficking victim
and show someone that had taken someone's life
or someone that had just been near someone
that had taken someone's life and gotten more time
than the person that actually used the weapon to kill someone.
So, just to kind of break down
all of these really unfair things in our justice system
was really important for me
to hopefully help other people have empathy.
-Yeah, it's got to feel good, too,
when you do get someone who's been locked up forever
the justice they actually deserve.
It's got to feel great, huh?
-Yeah, just to see that people get reunited --
like, you think it just affects one person,
but what really drew me to not want to stop
is when I met Alice, she had so many brothers and sisters.
She had all these grandkids,
great grandkids that she had never met.
It doesn't just affect one person.
It really changes their whole life and their whole family.
-Yeah. -So I always think like,
that could have just been, like, one family member of mine
making one bad decision that led them --
especially her, she would just answer the phone.
She was like the phone mule,
and she got more time than the people
that were actually dealing the drugs.
-Wow. -And it just -- this made --
She got a harsher sentence than Charles Manson,
and to me, that was insane.
-This airs this Sunday at 7pm,
and I also want to say, everyone that's been coming on
has been talking about their charities.
-Yeah. -Can you explain
what your company, Skims, has done?
-Yeah, so Skims just donated $1 million to Baby2Baby,
and they're really helping out families and mothers
that are really having a hard time dealing with
the coronavirus and all the effects from it.
So, it's an organization I've been working with for a while.
And on behalf of myself and Skims,
we really wanted to make a donation
and help any way we can.
-It's awesome that you're doing that,
and congrats on the documentary.
Thank you so much for doing this again,
and say hi to those kids.
-Bye. -Thank you, thank you.