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  • - They don't teach kids that today.

  • You know, when you give a handshake

  • you have to look in the eye, you gotta give it,

  • oh, what are you doing?

  • [laughing]

  • [dramatic music]

  • [beeps]

  • - [Crew] RuPaul Answers Increasingly Personal Questions

  • as the Camera Moves Closer to His Face.

  • [clapboard snaps]

  • - And I'm gonna turn my phone off

  • although no one calls me.

  • Well, no one has my number.

  • [beeps] - [Crew] Identity.

  • [clapper snaps]

  • - [Narrator] What are you afraid of?

  • - Ignorant people, it's the only thing I'm afraid of.

  • Ignorant people.

  • Especially ignorant people who think they're smart,

  • that's the scariest thing on earth.

  • - [Narrator] Where do you go to find peace?

  • - I usually go to Aretha Franklin Canyon,

  • it's right here in Beverly Hills

  • and most people in LA don't even know it exists.

  • I don't think Aretha Franklins knows, knew it exists.

  • In fact, it's actually not called Aretha Franklin,

  • but I call it Aretha Franklin Canyon,

  • it's called Franklin Canyon,

  • but because I called it Aretha Franklin Canyon

  • you'll never forget.

  • - [Narrator] What's the biggest difference between

  • your drag style when you first started out

  • compared to now.

  • - Well the biggest difference between

  • my drag style back then from what it is today

  • is about

  • $150,000.

  • - [Narrator] How did you develop your present drag persona?

  • - My present drag persona was developed

  • out of my study of pop culture

  • and how to create a caricature

  • that someone could draw on a page and be recognizable.

  • I took two parts Cher, three parts Diana Ross,

  • a dash of Dolly Parton

  • and a little bit of David Bowie and James Brown,

  • put them all together.

  • Oh, and a smathering of Bugs Bunny,

  • and that's how my persona,

  • my public persona, came to be.

  • - [Narrator] What advice would you give

  • to someone who feels alone?

  • - Advice I'd give to someone who feels alone is that,

  • first of all feelings are not facts.

  • You know, what you feel is an indicator,

  • but a lot of times it's not really the truth.

  • Because the truth is we are not separate from one another.

  • We are actually one thing, we are one thing.

  • We are one thing.

  • But from, your perception is, makes you think,

  • and your ego makes you think,

  • that we're two different things,

  • that you're over there and I'm over here,

  • but the truth is

  • we are actually one thing together.

  • - [Narrator] When do you feel most like an outsider?

  • - I feel most like an outsider every day of my life.

  • I've come to peace with feeling like an outsider.

  • I know it's a condition of my brain.

  • It's not necessarily the truth

  • because actually everybody feels like an outsider,

  • everybody feels that way.

  • [beeping]

  • And you want me to take my clothes off for this one?

  • [beeps] - [Crew] Family.

  • - [Narrator] How's your husband?

  • - I haven't had any complaints.

  • - [Narrator] How did you two meet?

  • - I met George on the dance floor

  • at Limelight discotheque in 1994.

  • They actually stunted his growth when he was 12 years old.

  • He was 6'8'' at 12 years old.

  • When I saw him out on the dance floor

  • at Limelight disco in New York City

  • he was wearing platform shoes about that tall

  • and dancing like a maniac.

  • So I had to go over to him and say, who are you?

  • What are you?

  • What are you doing?

  • And I said, can I hug you?

  • Can I put my arms around you?

  • 'Cause I'd never, I'm tall, I've never been able to

  • put my arms around someone's shoulders

  • who was taller than me.

  • So, yeah, that was 1994.

  • - [Narrator] Why did you two decide on an open marriage?

  • - We didn't decide, that's what, [laughs].

  • You know, the hope is that

  • monogamy is actually something that

  • can actually happen.

  • You know, I wouldn't want to put

  • restraints on the person I love the most on this planet.

  • I wouldn't do that to someone I love,

  • my very best friend.

  • Listen, if you get something happening

  • that you cannot resist

  • and that's gonna make you happy, go for it.

  • Go for it.

  • Because the truth is

  • I know in my heart of hearts,

  • like, I've never known anything before,

  • that man loves me more than anything else in this world.

  • - [Narrator] You once when on

  • a noteworthy picnic with your sister, is that right?

  • - My sister Renetta, who is my soul sister,

  • she's a twin, both of them are soul sisters.

  • But Renetta put some cookies in a brown paper bag

  • and took a blanket out to the backyard

  • and she laid it out.

  • We ate the cookies and she said,

  • this, Ru, is a picnic.

  • And that was my introduction to magic

  • and how to create magic in your life, little magic.

  • - [Narrator] When in your life did you feel most abandoned?

  • - When in my life did I feel most abandoned?

  • Well, you know, funny enough

  • this morning George and I went on a walk

  • here in Beverly Hills at about 4:30 in the morning

  • and when I was 28,

  • turning 28 years old, when Saturn returns in your life.

  • I was out here with my younger sister,

  • sleeping on her couch with not a nickel to my name.

  • And I would walk around in the middle of the night

  • in Los Angeles

  • with no car

  • and it was

  • the most hideous existence that you could ever imagine.

  • That went on for a couple of months

  • before I came to my senses and moved back to New York.

  • - [Narrator] What is the most significant way

  • you mother has influenced you as an artist?

  • - My mother told me something very important.

  • She influenced the way I conduct my life to this day

  • which is

  • unless they are paying your bills

  • pay them bitches no mind.

  • So she gave me the chutzpah, the moxie

  • to do my life my way.

  • [beeps] - [Narrator] Action, dolly.

  • - Is Dolly here?

  • I'm sorry, you know,

  • ya gotta entertain yourself

  • otherwise what's the fucking point?

  • I've turned into my father with the one-liners,

  • but I get it now.

  • I really get it now.

  • [beeps] - [Crew] Culture.

  • [clapboard snaps]

  • - [Narrator] What are you obsessed with right now?

  • - I'm obsessed with striped French sailor shirts.

  • I, you know, honestly,

  • I must have

  • 50 of them, 75, 80.

  • Yeah.

  • And I just bought a few when we were in France again.

  • I mean, you can buy 'em anywhere,

  • but I love 'em.

  • They're perfect.

  • No, I actually, I wanna change my mind.

  • This moment I'm obsessed with the Bee Gees.

  • I love the Bee Gees, the Brothers Gibb.

  • I was just listening to them on my hike yesterday morning

  • and in the bathtub this morning

  • and I could actually start crying

  • thinking about how beautiful their songs are.

  • And how just otherworldly the harmonies.

  • I just, I love them so much.

  • - [Narrator] Aside from you,

  • who's the most fabulous person on the planet?

  • - Wow, you know, the first person that comes to mind

  • is Dolly Parton.

  • - [Narrator] What's one thing people would be surprised

  • to know about you?

  • - Uh, I think they'd be surprised to know that

  • I'm actually more of an introvert than I let on.

  • I'm actually not really a people person.

  • I can do it, I've studied humans,

  • I know how to engage with humans,

  • it's not my favorite thing to do.

  • I like being alone a lot.

  • - [Narrator] What never fails to make you emotional?

  • - Toy Story 3 really gets me.

  • I saw Toy Story 4 on the plane coming back from Europe

  • the other day

  • and I loved it and I cried throughout it,

  • but it reminded me that Toy Story 3 had me bawling

  • from beginning to end.

  • Similar to the Wizard of Oz

  • which is also the story human life on this planet.

  • - [Narrator] Did you ever spend time

  • in a restaurant named Florent?

  • - I went to Florent restaurant in New York

  • starting in 1985.

  • It opened in '85 and I started going there then

  • and I went there till the end.

  • In fact, the other day, this is a true story,

  • I lit a candle with some matches from Florent

  • and it's been closed for, I don't know,

  • it's been 10 years maybe.

  • How long has Florent been closed?

  • - [Narrator] Since 2008.

  • - Oh, wow, yeah.

  • - [Narrator] What about Stingy Lulu's?

  • - Stingy Lulu's was a restaurant I'd go to

  • in the East Village all the time

  • and just about a year and a half ago, maybe two years ago,

  • Zach Gana-[babbling].

  • How do you say his name?

  • - [Narrator] Galifianakis.

  • - Say it again.

  • - [Narrator] Galifianakis.

  • - Galifianakis. [beeps]

  • Zach Galifianakis was my waiter at Stingy Lulu's.

  • - [Narrator] What do you miss most

  • about the '80s drag scene in New York?

  • - The thing I miss most

  • about the '80s drag scene in New York

  • is I had the freedom

  • to terrorize y'alls neighborhoods

  • before I became the poster child for drag around the world.

  • I used to be very

  • un-, un-PC around New York

  • and we had a lot of fun.

  • And used to party a lot.

  • And [laughing] I was able to, um,

  • you know, be what drag queens did in the '80s

  • which was terrorize and have fun and be wild.

  • And people weren't taking selfies or saying,

  • ooh, Miss RuPaul.

  • In fact, after 2 AM I became my alter ego,

  • which is Bianca Dinkins.

  • She was the illegitimate daughter of Mayor David Dinkins

  • and then by 4 AM I became known as Cupcake.

  • [beeps]

  • [laughing]

  • And y'all don't wanna, you don't want Cupcake up in here.

  • [laughing]

  • Or Bianca Dinkins.

  • 'Cause she, watch your pocketbooks 'round Bianca Dinkins.

  • [beeps] - [Crew] Work.

  • [clapboard snaps]

  • - [Narrator] How's work?

  • - I love work.

  • I work a lot, I like to work.

  • It keeps the voices at bay.

  • - [Narrator] What time did you get up today?

  • - I got up today at three o'clock.

  • Usually I get up at four o'clock,

  • but I'm a little thrown off from having

  • traveled in Europe for the past three weeks.

  • - [Narrator] Who would you cast to play you in a biopic?

  • - I would cast Raven-Symone to play me.

  • She's fabulous, she could do anything.

  • - [Narrator] If you were not a performer

  • what would you do for a living and why?

  • - Well, for a living, gee whiz.

  • You know, the closest thing I can think of

  • is be a teacher because I'm naturally curious

  • and I'd want to bring young people along for the ride

  • of experiencing life all over again.

  • I love to experience life and discover new things.

  • So that's, I would be a teacher.

  • - [Narrator] How long does it take you to get in drag?

  • - It takes me just under 300 years.

  • - [Narrator] How did you discover that you were a performer?

  • - Well, I feel like I was a born performer.

  • You know, I was told from childhood that I would be famous.

  • My mother saw a psychic when she was pregnant with me

  • and the psychic said, well, you're gonna have a boy.

  • This was before ultrasound.

  • And he's going to be famous.

  • So I grew up knowing I would be famous

  • and I had to figure out, okay, well how am I gonna do that?

  • I love creativity.

  • I love irreverence and colors and music and dancing

  • and movement and shapes and sizes

  • so I thought, well, I will become an actor,

  • or a performer, or a singer.

  • I love David Bowie.

  • So that's where I hitched my wagon to that star.

  • - [Narrator] How did public access TV

  • affect your development as an artist?

  • - Well, I grew up watching television.

  • Everything I know I learned from television.

  • Didn't learn a single thing in school. [laughing]

  • It would probably help if I went to classes,

  • but never learned anything in school.

  • I learned everything I know from television.

  • So in the early '80s when cable television became the king,

  • part of their deal was they had to give the public access

  • to certain channels on the cable box.

  • So public access was a way for everyday people

  • to produce television

  • and a lot of it was rotten which made it so, so good.

  • But when I saw it, I saw these irreverent Monty Python,

  • liberal, gorgeous freaks on their television show

  • I said, that's my tribe.

  • So I joined in and I started making television

  • in 1982 with them.

  • - [Narrator] You've said we're all born naked

  • and the rest is drag.

  • What does that mean?

  • - I've famously said,

  • you're born naked and the rest is drag.

  • What that means is that we are all

  • more than just what it says we are on our driver's license.

  • Or what it says we are in our job description.

  • We are actually, in reality,

  • an extension of the power that created the whole universe.

  • Can you handle it?

  • - [Narrator] We're gonna cut.

  • - I'mma take this microphone off.

  • All right.

  • - [Crew] Thank you so much.

  • - Thank you, guys, thank you.

- They don't teach kids that today.

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