And class if you could just welcome back our visitor, just hello.

Hello visitor.

Okay, there.

You see how welcoming we are.

We are delighted to have you here.

But here's what we are going to do.

We are going to begin an inquiry into why all of this is happening, why it is that income

and wealth, and, to some extent, political power are becoming more unequal.

What is it that's going on?

Who is to -- I hate to use the expression "blame," it's not a matter of blame -- but

what is the actually central cause.

Are you with me?

Are you interested?I hope so because if you're not.

They are.

And let's examine something.

Probably the best way to begin, because you remember last week we talked about your values

about really the kind inequality you thought was inappropriate or what you expected the

inequality was, and the gap between the reality and the ideal.

And you participated as well, you also voted about what you wanted, and we found out that

it turns out there is a huge gap between the degree of inequality of wealth actually in

the United States and what people thought it was, and also the ideal people had in their

heads.

And it wasn't just Berkeley, and it wasn't just all of you, but it really was a random

sample of people across the country.

So we are going to take another cut at all of this, but what we are going to do now is

-- we are just beginning our inquiry into why all this has happened.

And I would like you, we're just going to do a couple of clicker votes, and you don't

have clickers, but we're going to figure out, I think we've figured out a way for you to

be involved as well.

I've got two questions.

Now, before you vote on this, let me explain why.

This is a matter of mapping some of your values, and the first question that I'm asking you

is how is it to you to preserve neighborhoods with small shops and bookstores.

And this is just -- in terms of the kind of environment you want.

Is it very important?

And the two choices here: Quite important or not really important at all?

And what do you think?

Let's go.

2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.

And let's end it there.

Let's just see what you think in terms of importance.

Well, 82% of you, 82% of you, 605 of you say, it is quite important: preserving neighborhoods

with small shops and businesses.

And about 18% of you, 129 of you, say it's not really important at all.

Well, that's significant.

And you do it as well.

I don't know whether you feel the same way but we'll see, to tell the basis of what you

believe.

Now, let me ask you another question, and this is again mapping your preferences.

That's all we're doing now is mapping your preferences.

And the second question has to do with steady jobs and good wages.

How important is it to maintain steady jobs and good wages for American -- and I just

selected some workers -- retail workers, manufacturing workers, airline workers.

How important is it to you to maintain steady jobs and good wages for a bunch, a lot of

American workers.

Is it quite important, A, or not really important at all, B. And let's go.

1, 2, 3.

And you participate as well, I'm assuming you're going to be part of this poll.

And let's end the bidding there.

And let's see where you are.

So 94% of you saw that it's quite important, quite important, 94% of you, to maintain steady

jobs and good wages for these retail workers, manufacturing workers, and other workers.

And only 42 of you, 6%, don't care.

I don't know who you are, but you cold-hearted people, I don't.

Well, alright, that's interesting.

So we have a little bit of mapping.

I could have asked you a number of questions, but I have a little bit of a mapping going.

But now I want to ask you a different question.

[Laughter] Now wait, I want to explain this.

I just want to ask you, I'm not trying to make you feel bad about yourself, I just want

to ask you, do you shop online for a lot of things, alright.

Just a question.

Go.

And you, do you shop online?

I just want to know from you.

Are you shopping online on for a lot of things?

Okay, let's end the bidding there.

End the bidding there and let's just see.

So three-quarters of you do a lot of shopping online.

And about a quarter of you don't.

What I'm going to ask you, and I don't mean to make you feel bad about yourself, but do

you see slight inconsistency?

In other words, you really, most of you, really value small shops and you value bookstores,

and you value jobs and good jobs.

That's what you said, but you're also shopping a lot online.

And the inconsistency that I want to point out in case you are missing it is that buying

a lot of things on line, while I understand it completely, and I do it too, you are perhaps

having an effect on small shops and bookstores.

Are you not?

I say this, in part, because I have a personal interest.

I write books, and when I started writing books, you know, in the 20th century there

were a lot of bookstores.

Most of my books were sold in bookstores and now most of my books are sold I guess through

Amazon.

I mean the three dozen books I sell are sold through Amazon.

My books, by the way, I have to tell you a little bit of the story.

I went to a social event at somebody's house that I didn't know.

I didn't know this person.

About a year and a half ago.

And on this person's bookshelf was the first book that I had ever written.

And it was not even in paperback.

It was a hardback version.

I was so touched, and I was so honored, and I was so, well, I just thought wow.

I mean, I don't even know this person, and they have my first book on their bookshelf.

And I went to the host of this event and said, "I noticed that you have my first book on

your bookshelf."

And he looked a little abashed, a little embarrassed.

And he said I ought to pull it out and look at it.

And I opened it, and it had been hollowed out.

You see, he had bought it as a safekeeping device to put jewelry and other things in

it on the supposition that nobody would ever pull that book out.

[Laughter] Anyway, anyway.

The point is I have a very soft place in my heart for bookstores and you do to.

You like bookstores and also all of the other things in your neighborhood, but if you are

shopping online, there's a little bit of, there's a little bit of a contradiction in

your heads.

Let me ask you another question.

And again just an honest answer, alright.

Just a really honest answer.

This is -- Do you seek the lowest-priced goods and services, such as clothing, flights.

Are you, in other words, are you looking out for the best deal you can possibly get?

Is this important to you?

Yes, of course, or no?

Let's go.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.

And let's end the bidding, end the bidding there.

So 87% of you are seeking the best deal you can, the lowest price you possibly can.

Of course you are.

And only 13% of you are not.

I don't know what planet you live on, but you are not.

I mean, and I don't mean to in anyway denigrate you, I think most of us though do look for

the best deals.

But, again, I want to suggest to you that in getting the best deal you might be encouraging

the companies that are selling you the best deal to outsource abroad or to reduce their

wages or to bust unions or to maybe cut wages or maybe lay people off and bring in machinery

to do.

In other words, there are a lot of things companies can do to give you great deals,

but a lot of what they do to give you great deals are inconsistent, or at least slightly,

with what you profess to be with your ideals about jobs and wages.

Do you see that tension?

I don't want to, I'm not suggesting that you are in any way hypocritical here.

I just am suggesting that there is an important tension between how you profess or what you

profess to believe in -- in terms of shops and bookstores and good wages and good jobs

and steady jobs -- and the way you actually behave as consumers.

Now you may also have a similar tension.

Again I'm not suggesting you're hypocritical, but I want you also to think about that tension

in terms of your behavior as a consumer versus your professed values.

Because in many ways, in many ways there is split brain in our heads.

If we can just, there we are.

There's your brain.

Because part of our brains, we are, for a shortcut way of saying it is we have a citizen

side of our brain -- that is the citizen side of our brain we are concerned about things

like the quality of life in our communities and bookstores and everything, and quality

of, you know, the other people's jobs.

We have sort of values as citizens in terms of the kind of place we'd like to live, but

then we also have another part of our brains that let's call the consumer part of brains.

And I want to suggest to you that there is some tension between the citizen part of our

brains and the consumer part of our brains.

Now, I'm not neurologist.

I don't know where these brain centers are, but they don't necessarily overlap.

And so when we get to the question of who is actually driving inequality, poor jobs,

insecure jobs, the closing of bookstores, neighborhoods that are actually becoming backwaters.

And we ask, what is happening?

And who is doing it all?

You, and you, are complicit.

Again, I'm not blaming you, I'm just, I wan- I'm just trying point out that you

are complicit.

When we're inquiring into the sources of widening inequality, job insecurity, and everything

else, you are complicit.

We could have done this about the environment, too.

A lot of us, a lot of you, I imagine, want a healthy environment, clean air, good water

and everything else, but maybe you don't want to pay for, or maybe, in seeking the

best deals, you are creating incentives for companies not to voluntarily be terrific citizens

with regard to the environment.

You get the drift of what I'm saying.

And you understand what I'm saying.

So, the question that I want to close on, or I want you to think about, is why is it

that the consumer side of our brains wins out so often over the citizen side of our

brains?

Doesn't always, but why does it so often win out?

Well, I wanna offer to you, and to you, three possible reasons.

One possible reason is that you have limited resources.

I mean, all of us have limited resources.

We would like to be better, we would like to be more conscientious, we would like to

be better people, but we would like to get the best deal we can, we feel, because we

don't have endless amounts of money.

Maybe you do.

No you don't!

And so we have limited resources.

But there is something else.

There's something else going on.

And part of is, we don't connect our pursuit of good deals with consequences that we may

dislike.

That is, what I said to you before, you are trying to get good deals, you are driving

competition between companies to get you the best deal, and that is driving companies to

slash wages, or outsource abroad, or bring in automated equipment and digital equipment

instead of jobs, or doing all kinds of things, or maybe doing stuff over the internet, selling

stuff over the internet instead of setting up a shop.

Whatever it is, you are driving companies to do this, but you may not see the link.

You and many other people may not see that causation.

Maybe if you did, you would behave differently.

And maybe some of you, even today, maybe some of you only buy a garment that is certified

as not being sewn in a sweatshop by children in a developing nation who are not going to

school because they are working seven days a week in a sweatshop.

Maybe you are looking for that certification and maybe you are willing to pay more for

that kind of a garment, that kind of a certification, than you would pay otherwise.

But surveys show that most people are not willing to pay more.

They like that certification, for example, but they're really not willing to pay that

much more.