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  • Joseph as a person exempting this one situation is an outstanding person.

  • Outstanding friend, son, uh, outstanding pillar for his family.

  • He would give up the little that he has just to help somebody else.

  • And I think it takes a humble person to be able to do that.

  • When you think about that word kidnapping and you think about what it entails, it doesn't fit Joseph at all.

  • The thought of him going to jail blows my mind.

  • E Look at him.

  • There's nothing intimidating about him at all.

  • And now he's gonna have to suffer for 12 to 15 years.

  • Everything I don't I can't imagine prison No, with anybody crying right now, because it's just me.

  • Anybody feel that that's the power of these films.

  • Our job is to make judges suffer.

  • It used to be really easy for them.

  • Plug in the numbers, give him a guideline sentence and be done with it.

  • This judge was made to suffer.

  • And so Mr Do Ruth, the young kid who was head over heels in love with a girl, there's a huge family rift, he snapped, supposedly kidnapped her, had a weapon and transported across state lines.

  • So he's facing these massive, terrible, ugly charges, right?

  • A rookie mistake would be to pick an image that was on the nose like maybe show a jail sales.

  • Instead, they made the choice to show him a little bit younger Spider Man T shirt, that kind of thing.

  • And the judge is looking at that kid saying that could be my own kid.

  • So this was the one that the guidelines sends Was 135 months.

  • He received a sentence of three months.

  • Jill Jill, Gin sling.

  • Did I say that right?

  • Is Jill here?

  • Hey, come on up.

  • Yeah, I was very excited that the film was selected for the festival.

  • Quite frankly, I wasn't sure that it was It was good enough.

  • I helped with the editing and because I knew the judge, you know, I felt like I could help pick and choose what I thought might be effective for him.

  • First of all, it's a weird experience being on this side of the camera, cause I'm usually on that side of the camera, and it's also a weird experience, having to sort of pull back the curtain on what we do in these training sessions because there is, like a, I guess, a little bit of secret sauce.

  • I mean, the reality of it is this isn't your typical sentencing film festival.

  • This is the way we teach lawyers how to do this.

  • It's just a nontraditional learning session.

  • Come, I'm from Arizona.

  • It's a two hour time difference.

  • I'm not exactly sure what time it is now, but I'm pretty sure it's wine o'clock.

  • Go and pour yourself a glass and let's have some fun and get started.

  • The Handle's Journeys.

  • A theory by a guy named Joseph Campbell.

  • One of the ideas behind it is the old stories and pulled the same characters.

  • Every story has a hero.

  • They usually just yet average Joe in the beginning because the audience has to relate to.

  • You're making this up.

  • I don't think about it.

  • All great stories have humorous.

  • They start small with problems.

  • All the cub.

  • Then they gained wisdom and power to solve that conflicts.

  • You're talking about Skywalker?

  • Exactly, Ping.

  • All right, so that's the stages those air the characters.

  • Now let's see if we can make this practical toe what we d'oh the rookie mistake.

  • When we do these movies is to just slap someone on a couch and do a parade of talking heads.

  • Juvenile Justice System failed when it came to Chris.

  • Child Protective Service is wasn't there to save him?

  • I think we both was just trying to survive.

  • That's not a movie.

  • The way we really get to the heart of the matter is through pictures, right?

  • That's what transports us into the world of empathy.

  • And here, the fact that he was so devoted to his family it meant something.

  • Maur, the doctor says She's 50 50 because of kidney was already ruptured, and the poison was already leaking into her body.

  • Two weeks later, I went into a coma.

  • Things was coming.

  • Dude, you know, the rent was dope.

  • They was coming to shut off the lights.

  • How was I supposed to pay for it?

  • I was desperate, but I just hope that someone understands why I did it.

  • I'm not saying that I'm not guilty.

  • I'm only human and try to understand that we all fall short from time.

  • Great job.

  • Okay, so there's a There's a big debate.

  • Do we put music in these?

  • You know, and I say if you can do it.

  • Do it.

  • And here Mr Sloane is a gospel singer.

  • Me and my dad, we make gospel music.

  • That was him and his dad's music in there, which is absolutely brilliant.

  • And more importantly, it was absolutely integrated into the story, right?

  • So this is a story of an explanation of why this crime happened.

  • He was desperate for money.

  • His wife, the love of his life, had taken ill.

  • He had this transitory possession of a weapon.

  • He made a small amount of money, and now he's in a heap of trouble.

  • So the government's arguing for 33 months sentence three years probation.

  • It's really emotional watching these videos, and these films air real good representation of the real America.

  • The people that we represent are living their lives in this America that most people don't see and don't think about.

  • But it says this is Israel as it gets.

  • These folks are like me.

  • This could be my own son.

  • This could be my own daughters myself.

  • And so our job is not to go for sympathy.

  • Oh, they've had such a hard life for me that never gets us anywhere.

  • Our job is to go for empathy.

  • Lights, please, my friend.

  • Anybody who's been in our system and live these cases know that what's happening now is complete and utter bullshit.

  • There have been hundreds and hundreds of people have been convicted in court beyond a reasonable doubt.

  • It's come out that it's not true.

  • They're in its I don't know what how to stop.

  • I never made it to my son's funeral.

  • Son was likely the other human beings, so they deserve a little bit more consideration than our sentencing chart pulled out of.

  • Someone's asked.

  • I'm sorry that we didn't do the things you did save you.

  • Being in a situation wants me to look at me.

  • And sometimes you don't like the person you see.

  • Looking back, I'm in an adversarial system.

  • It's two sides of story.

  • They've got their story.

  • I've got a heart.

  • Here's your second place.

  • And Ray Marcel Williams, This is for our habeas Who produced a killer?

  • No.

  • Sorry.

  • A kick ass.

  • Like they say about writers, you know, if you want to be a writer, right?

  • Just go right.

  • Make a movie.

  • Yeah, I think it was great.

  • I think I think each clip was really impactful in his own way, and I was surprised.

  • I was literally crying at the last movie, and I don't know if I cried the first time I saw it, but I felt like maybe it was the energy in the room or something, like you could hear a pin drop.

  • How was he will ever see it.

  • But what would you say is documentary filmmaking the literal, absolute truth?

  • So So So No, it's not what it is is the emotional truth.

  • All right, Good enough, right?

  • Tiptoe, black baby.

Joseph as a person exempting this one situation is an outstanding person.

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