Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles - Hi everyone, Sal Khan here. Welcome to our Daily Homeroom live stream. As I always explained, this is a way for us to stay together connected in this time of school closures. Khan Academy, we're not for profit, with a mission of providing a free world-class education for anyone anywhere. And we could never foreseen the situation that we're now founding ourselves in, but over the last roughly decade, we've been building resources that we think can really help you as a student, a parent, a teacher, keeps students learning over this a very unfortunate situation we are going through. I will remind everyone, before we get into the mid of today's session, we are not for profit, we exist because of philanthropic donations from folks like yourself. We were running at a deficit, even before this whole Covid crisis hit, and now our traffic is almost three times what it typically is. I do wanna give a special thank you for all of you who've donated over the last several weeks, and especially several of these corporations you see here. Bank of America really stepped up 31st weekend where they saw that we had a need, Google.org, AT&T, Novartis. This is helping a lot, but we need more help. We are continuing to run at an increasing deficit. I also wanna give a special thanks to my wife (murmurs) this is my first Covid haircut (laughs) I got over the weekend in our backyard. I think she's got some skills, obviously I'm biased. So today we're gonna have a fun session, I'm gonna bring on two of my team members, Meaghan and Jeremy, who are former teachers who have been leading the Webinars that we keep talking about, over on these live streams. And the collectively what we're gonna do, on Friday we had a fun ask me anything, where people were asking literally anything, And now I'm joined by Meaghan and Jeremy, and you can ask us anything. And obviously Meaghan and Jeremy are expert at, how does Khan Academy work in a classroom? They're the ones running the webinars and they can talk more about, some of the webinars are about to run, common questions they've seen, but also ask us anything about anything. So Meaghan, Jeremy, thanks for joining us. Maybe a good place to start, Meaghan, I'll start with you. Tell us a little bit about these webinars you're running and what types of things you're trying to get across. - Sure, thanks Sal. We are running webinars for teachers who are transitioning from being in the classroom everyday with their students to teaching and learning remotely. And we've covered everything from, how to set up your Khan Academy account to best practices, to even having teachers who are really exceptional ambassadors, who are sharing their best practices for different students in different areas. So it could be math, could be English language learners, could be science. And so we're having both our team share some of the things that we know work really well, along with teachers around the country sharing their best ideas, to really form a community of teaching and learning remotely. And we have two webinars coming up this week. One for best practices for supporting students who are special education, and one for best practices for supporting English language learners. And those are on Wednesday and Friday respectively. - That's super useful. And Jeremy, what would you say that you and Meaghan are seeing as some of the main, I guess pain points that parents and teachers are facing, and what they are finding value in from these webinars? - It's a great question. And we definitely live in webinar mode nowadays, so thanks to everyone who's been joining us over the last couple of weeks, as we move into this new sort of world order. That being said, I think what we're hearing, especially from educators as well as parents, is the hunger for specificity. We're now a month into this thing and this seems to be the sort of the way the world's gonna work, at least for the next several weeks. How do we make the most of this time? How do we serve our students and our children the best way possible? And so what we've been hearing from teachers is, how do I do that at the elementary level versus the high school level? How do I do that in my science class versus my ELA class? And so for the last several weeks, we've been having ambassadors share their specialty, in each of those different areas with educators across the country and around the world. And next week is no different. And we wanna make sure that, whether you serve students in special education, or English language learners, you're getting everything you need to serve those students successfully. - And what advice... Meaghan I ask you first, what advice do you have for teachers who are... You know, they didn't get a lot of notice, that they're now trying to figure out how to transition their class and teach virtually over Skype, Zoom, whatever. Meaghan, what's your top tip or top tips? - I think you're really hitting the nail on the head Sals, that we're seeing from a lot of teachers and parents, and I've observed students as well, that feeling of being overwhelmed, a lot is hitting everyone all at once, and now that we're thinking about this as being more of a longterm situation. I think one thing that I would share right now is that, the focus immediately had been, how do I use technology with my students? But really to take a step back and think about taking those classroom norms to use in the brick and mortar classroom, and how you can transition that, and use your students as part of a community building process of, what are the norms we want for our class? What are the norms we're going to use when we use a video conferencing tool, like zoom or Google Hangouts? What are the things that we're gonna set into the classroom norms for communicating with each other. So focusing on building that community with your students and setting norms and opportunities for communication first, and then using those tools, like Khan Academy, to support those norms and best practices, as opposed to putting just the technology first. - And Jeremy, taking the other side on the parents side, what advice would you have for parents? I think many of us are in this boat. I felt it over the last couple of weeks, so you're feeling overwhelmed, your kids are at home, you're trying to work from home. If you have young kids, they make it difficult for you to work from home, at the same time you have a list of do's from their school, that you're trying to take pictures of it and send it to their teacher, what advice do you have for parents who are trying to navigate that? - All three of us are very much in the same boat. I know there are millions of other parents out there who are asking themselves the same question right now. My own kids are causing up a storm over in the next room, so I appreciate their indulgence. That being said, I would come back to this idea, from my early days as a teacher in training, which is about getting quick wins. So I know that as a parent or as an educator, you want to come in and you wanna be a master of the situation, an awesome parent, an incredible teacher. But it's tough to do when everything is changing all around you. And so what I've been looking to do with my own kids, is find one moment in a day, when we have a really special moment of connection. Maybe it's not transcendent learning, maybe it's not massive educational gains, which is a moment we have maybe a game of 20 questions, or would you rather do this? Or would you rather do that around the dinner table? Where we feel like a family in that moment, and not just the family and crisis. And so, I think if you can just pull out that one moment a day, really seize upon that and be grateful for that, that becomes the building block for a routine, and a family tradition that you can celebrate even beyond this crisis. - I really liked that. One thing that I've started, obviously there's a certain irony coming from me or from us, but what I've really enjoyed is that, I have one of those little tablet whiteboards with a whiteboard marker, and I've just been writing a problem of the day for my two youngest. My oldest who's 11, he kinda is doing his thing and he's pretty productive, and, and my middle one is okay. But just writing that problem down and we sit next to each other on the couch, it takes 10 minutes, but at least I'm like, "Okay, they're doing something kind of academic." And then from there you get that win and then you can start layering on, "Hey, if we can do 20 minutes of Khan Academy, on the math side, if we can just read together. I'm a big fan of these Bob books, these early learner reading things that I do with my five-year-old. That gets you your wins, and then we've published things like these schedules, that you can layer on over time. And actually a to do for us, I think is to maybe.... "cause we, these schedules could show how you can use Khan Academy for fairly full school day, including breaks and lunch and all of that, we don't provide lunches, but we can tell you when they go and they could be. But I think we also should.... We've been saying it in these live streams, and y'all been saying it in our webinars, but I think even in our schedules, we should probably say, "Hey, even if you just do this part, you're a superhero." And everyone else is gravy from there. And actually I've gotten feedback lately, that I say the term "Everything is gravy." And a lot of people, especially from other countries are not familiar with it. And so the general idea is that, mashed potatoes by themselves are enough to provide the calories you need, but they taste even better with gravy, which you don't necessarily need. So anyway, let's see (laughs) We have questions coming in from, also see, so from... There's couple of questions we could all take stabs at. Some of these, from YouTube, (murmurs) asks, how do you help a kid that struggles with testing? You either don't want to take that, I'm happy to jump into you Meaghan, one take - Sure, I'll take a first stab at that, and I'm looking forward Sal and Jeremy to your thoughts as well. So I think for some students it's important to identify what it is about the testing that might feel daunting to them, is it the content timebox element, is it just the concept of, that this individual, there's one thing I'm doing and there's moment holds so much weight that that's overwhelming for them. So I think the first step is, is having a conversation with your child or student and trying to identify, what it is that feels like a struggle for them? Because sometimes even that conversation takes off that first level of what's so intimidating. And then if you can get into more of the details of, is it the content? Is it the time piece? Is it the concept of an assessment that's so troublesome? Once you know what that is, then there's opportunities and resources to kind of dig further into that, and to work with your child or student through that particular situation. - Yup, Jeremy, anything to add to that? - Yeah, I would just say this is actually a chance for you to really sort of focus on the most important things and learning which are mastering new skills, not just trying to get a test completed. I think that's actually a place where Khan Academy shines. I know with my own six year old, when she first started doing it, she was really frustrated because he was still in that mental model of, "I have to "get 100% and I have to do it in the first go." When then she realized that she could actually take the same assessment over and over again, depression started to wear off. So she wasn't focused exclusively on, "I need to, you know, totally ACE this out of the Gates." But instead build up that muscle over time, rep after rep, practice after practice until I get to that Holy grail of mastery, and that's what really matters. And Khan Academy makes that possible. - (murmurs) go ahead Meaghan. - I was gonna say, I wonder if this is where you were headed as well." So I think it brings a great opportunity. Jeremy, what you're saying is that, we have such great growth mindset content on Khan Academy, and I think sometimes that concept is so new to students and so different from what they're used to, in some traditional classroom settings, that it's a great opportunity to even leverage some of the gross mindset content that we have from.... That we developed in collaboration with Perth's at Stanford. It's a great opportunity to use some of that and work with your student on building that growth mindset. - And y'all are both talking about a two.... Sometimes subtle things, but things that we take very seriously here at Khan Academy, one is this notion of mastery learning, which is one of the reasons why there's test taking anxiety is, you take a test, you got a 70 on it, you're labeled a C or a D student and that doesn't feel good, while, all of us at Khan Academy, we strongly believe in this, is what mastery learning is all about, is that you got, you took a test, you get a 70% on it, not a big deal. What Jeremy was referring to, is you can then take a very similar test again. And I'm often sensitive when people try to compare Khan Academy to other resources, and I look at some of these resources and they'll just list like five questions. And I'm like, "No, no, no, we don't realize "we have thousands of questions. So that if someone doesn't do get it the first time, they can keep taking it without seeing a repetition of the same test or the same exercises. And obviously that that takes a pile of resources for us, but we do it because we so strongly believe that, that first shot shouldn't be your only shot and that you should keep working until you can get to 70%, 80%, 90%. Maybe sometimes you can move ahead if you need to, but then you can go back and remediate those gaps. And what Meaghan is referring to a growth mindset, which is very popular. It's very involved these days in education, which is, you'd have a fixed mindset where you say, "I'm either good at this or I'm not" Or a growth mindset where you say, "I only know how good I am by applying myself, "pushing myself out of my comfort zone, "being willing to fail, "recognizing that failure is not a bad thing, "that, that's actually when I grow the most, "if I reflect on that failure." But a world where you just give someone a test and they get a 70 and then that's the end of it, you can't apply a growth mindset there. Because then that's saying you are a 70% student, in order to actually have a growth mindset, you have to actually really have mastery learning where you get back up. And you say, "Okay, I'm going to try this again." That's how it works in other things. If you're learning piano and you mess up the piece, people say, "Okay, you're 70% go on to the next piece." No, they say, "Keep working on it" Or in a martial art or if you're shooting free throws, the coach doesn't say, "Hey, you're a bad free throw shooter, let's move on to dribbling." They say, "No, keep practicing those free throws." So I think that's huge. And Meaghan I like the way that broke it down. There's a lot of things that could be happening for a student who's having trouble with testing. I'll throw out another kind of metal level thing, which is just meditation, which sounds fancy and sounds all new age, but it's literally just sitting down and trying to quiet your thoughts, and realizing that you're in your thoughts. I think even for very young kids, that can oftentimes work 'cause we can get so overwhelmed. Because I think, especially when people say they're bad test takers, that's usually, that category that you talked about, Meaghan which is this notion of a test that their brain starts having circuits go that like, "Oh my God, Oh my God, "what if I can't answer this question? "What if I can answer this question?" And then it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. I think if you could kind of step yourself, step out of those cycling of thoughts, which sitting quietly everyday for two minutes, three minutes, five minutes, 20 minutes can really help. So there's a couple of questions here. This is a popular topic. One is YouTube Leon and YouTube 60106 I'll ask both of them, and please discuss the transition from missions to masteries, world of math was unique and showing a more unified view of the field, can we create a comparable view in the new system? And then 60106 asks, 'Hi Sal, why have you chosen "to remove missions from Khan Academy? "Will you replace them with something else?" Well, I'll take a first step, which is, for those of you who don't know (mumbles) it's the part of Khan Academy historically, and it's still there today. Although people are asking questions because we are what's known in the software field, you know, we're deprecating it, which means over time it's going to go away. Missions were a way to get recommendations on what to do next. Kids get practice feedback, there's all this game mechanics, there are things called mastery challenges to make sure that you've mastered the concepts and level up your mastery. And the reason why we are deprecating missions, is there's another experience on Khan Academy, which internally we've called our library view. This is when a lot of y'all have done web searches, You fell on Khan Academy and then just like, "Oh, okay there's a video there, there's an exercise there." But what we want to do is, Khan Academy mission should feel like, what a good tutor would do. It will help you, if you're cramming for that exam tomorrow or you're trying to figure out how to factor quadratics for your homework tonight, but what a good tutor would do is, "Hey, we're there to help you right now, "but you and I should keep working "together 20 minutes a day, "so that you don't get into this stressful situation again." And historically, missions were where that happens, but it was kind of a different part of the site and you have to click around to find it. And a couple of years ago we said, "Well, what if we could merge the best of our library view and our missions view? And that's what we are... Internally, we call course mastery on Khan Academy. But now when you go to what used to be the library on Khan Academy, you'll see that it'll talk about mastery and mastery points and it gives you these little visuals that talk about your mastery level, and you can uplevel them by working on a particular skill, working on quizzes, unit tests, mastery challenges. We just introduced a couple of months ago, course challenges. And so we are trying to bring everything that missions are into the course mastery. And it's already getting quite close. And so the plan is, before we fully deprecate or sunset admissions, we will have our course mastery, do everything that missions do, and all the things that the library does well, which gives you more contacts, it makes it easier for you to jump around, understand why certain things are connected to others. When Leon asks about the world of math, that was a mission where you essentially to try and do all of math on Khan Academy. And I love that notion. I was obviously one of the first people said, "Hey, there should just be a place "where you learn everything, because it is all connected." And so, we could... I'm not sure if we have a course, but it would be nice to create a course and of course master that's world of math and that should get you where you need to get go. So from YouTube, Susanna Garcia Domingez asks, "When school starts again, "is it going to be business as usual "or will we see changes? "What the changes do you see taking shape?" I love to hear your thoughts first, Meaghan. - I think that there's a couple of things that... Again, this is all evolving, right? This is a whole new world for all of us. And I think some things that we are expecting, we see some are side usually with students, and sound, Jeremy, please feel free to jump in here. Right? We see some are side for students. Now we're looking at a world where students have had even longer than that in the United States especially to look at that side and try and fill in those gaps from the year before. And I think Khan Academy has some opportunities for teachers to leverage some of our tools to be able to identify some of those gaps for students to try and get them back up to speed. But we've seen this longer gap, between when students left the classroom this spring and when they hopefully are back in the classroom this fall. The other thing is we are seeing that there is some possibility that the school year for 2021, could be intermittent with times in and out of the classroom. And so I know there's a lot of people all over the place trying to work on pieces to best solve this problem. And I know that we at Khan Academy, are thinking about additional ways and additional resources to support parents, teachers, and students, with remote learning and teaching, right now of course, but also, how can we continue that to make that transition, especially if it's intermittent? How can you try and make that more seamless and feel a little more comfortable for everyone? - Yup, Jeremy, anything to add to that? - Yeah, so I think in addition to sort of the challenges that this crisis has dealt on entire education system. There is at least one silver lining that I have identified, which is so many of the teachers who have been coming to our webinars are saying, "For the first time in my whole career, "I'm finally getting this technology stuff." And as someone who never talked about technology once in my entire teacher training program, I know that it can often feel like this foreign world that we're entering into, but now that we're getting these new skills, just like our students are always learning new things, we can bring new experiences to our students. And so I'm hopeful that, whenever school resumes business as usual, it's going to be business as usual, but better, with new technology and new tools, new resources to serve students even more effectively. - Yeah, and I'll just add to that, you know, everything we've been talking about, the value of personalized learning , where you're a teacher with a classroom of 30 students who are all at different levels, all have different gaps, You wanna do mastery learning, but without the aid of technology, it's very hard to do mastery learning. You'd have to have multiple tests that you're administered to teach the students at different time, and somehow try to orchestrate kids on their own path. But the reason... But the need for those things, is even going to be stronger to the point that Meaghan just made of, kids are gonna be out of school for five months, six months. Our partners at the NWA, the not for profit that administers the map growth, they just released a study last week talking about how those five months. It's not just gonna be five months of lost learning, it's actually gonna be five months of forgetting. So it's very possible that the median student, if they don't get any form of intervention, they don't use Khan Academy, et cetera, et cetera, they might enter next year exactly where they were a year ago. So you would have a year of loss. And so it's super important that we leverage this time, not just the remaining time in the school year, but the summer to keep learning. And then when we go back to school, the reality is, some kids would have kept learning and other kids for many reasons, might not have kept learning. So they're gonna have even a wider variation. And so I think it's going to be even more imperative. And it's what Meaghan and Jeremy were talking about, that when people come back, we hope that they can leverage us to understand where their kids are and then allow more time than normal. If I were to theorize, I think we have talked to some districts that are thinking about starting the school year a little bit early, I think especially in something like math, although I think reading as well, but especially math where, once you have those gaps, it can be very debilitating to build on top of them. It might make sense for everybody to have a double block or something for a month or two, so they can really remediate and catch up. And if you do have that type of time, that's where our resources, like Khan Academy could be really valuable. Like, I could imagine a month of really deep, everyone starts at... We had Tim Vanderburgh and I know Jeremy did a webinar with him as well, amazing teacher in Hisperia in California who has all of his sixth graders start at kindergarten level, and Khan Academy, if they know it, they're able to accelerate ahead. If they don't, well they need that to fill in those gaps. Within a week or two, they're all operating, closer and closer to their grade level. And I think there's concepts like that, that we could do throughout the country or the world to help make sure that everyone has their gaps. And if there's another silver lining to what Jeremy at it is, I think this is the first time that people are gonna take summer seriously, as a time to learn. And I think people are going to realize that the variation is so large to this back to school, that I think more school districts and schools will say, "Okay, we've got to take up this whatever this month, to reduce this variance." So let everyone fill in their gaps. And that was always an issue, but the issue is so big now that you can't ignore it. So let's see. There's a whole class of questions here. YouTube Nikila go vendor asks, are there suggestions you have for teachers who are teaching children remotely without wifi? Then boy TJR asks, the app is amazing, but if you don't have good wifi or no wifi at all. And then Zachary Meadows is asking, how could we help kids without internet? I'd love your all's thoughts. I'm once again happy to give my 2 cents, Meaghan? - Sure, from a Khan Academy standpoint, a lot of our system is highly dependent on consistent internet access and device access, which we know is a challenge for many students all over the globe. And so, there is one thing that I can recommend here is that, our friends at Learning Equality, have developed a system where, if you have internet access, even for a small amount of time, you can download some of the aspects of Khan Academy and use those offline. So if your students have access, even to a limited amount of internet, even for a small window during the day or in the week, you can leverage that integration so that students can still have access to something like Khan Academy. And I would say, even if they don't have internet access, one of the biggest things we keep seeing for teachers and students and parents, is still finding a way to contact your students. And I saw this really great post from a teacher this week, where they wrote handwritten notes for each of their students and even drop them off at their homes, which we don't even think about snail mail anymore for students. And some of them don't even think about that type of communication. But what a powerful impact that had on her students to know that the teacher, and she was still thinking about them, even if she couldn't see them face to face every day. So I would leverage finding ways to communicate with your students, even if you can't see them directly on a video call. - Yeah, and I'll just add to that, for teachers who are teaching kids with out wifi. I've seen teachers do things like, the students do their work handwritten, but at least use a parent's phone to text them an image, which I think is reasonably common. And Khan Academy is usable on, on a cell phone. So I know there's still people who might not have..... They might be data sensitive or not have wifi access, but as long as a family member has a cell phone that has a data plan, a smartphone, they should be able to use us in some way shape or form. We are hearing really good stuff coming. I've talked to Dr. Jara from Las Vegas, from Clark County. They've been distributing laptops for kids who don't have it. I talked to Ray Daleo and his wife Barbara, in Connecticut, they just bought laptops. They're incredible philanthropists who bought laptops for, I think 40, 50, 60,000 high school students in Connecticut. So there are programs out there, and so I wouldn't be surprised, Obviously I don't know where everyone is from, but call your local cable company. I think they are leaning into it now, so I think they'd be inclined to give you internet access at home or open up other hotspots that might be in the same building as you, they might call your school district, there might be ways to get access to devices. I've seen everyone's trying to do right by folks right now, so don't hesitate to reach out. I think you'll be surprised how much help you might be able to get. The other questions. So from Facebook, (murmurs) asks, do you pull kids that use kinda kind of and see what they like and don't like about the content structure, et cetera, and use info to make changes? So the simple answer is, "Yes, kind of." We do put our stuff in front of students, we do see how it's like, we do user research, We do that with teachers as well, And we get the data on what people are finding, engaging, what changes to the site seem to work, what don't, and we run efficacy studies to understand is it really improving their outcomes? Um, so Bill Emma from YouTube says, "We are not able to keep continuous concentration "on studies in isolation, My question is "how can we overcome the situation?" Need a suggestion from Meaghan, all right Meaghan. - Wow (murmurs), yeah, focus is hard. And I would say student motivation and even personal motivation is hard, right? I was a classroom teacher for nine years and a big piece of my focus and motivation definitely leveraged my face to face time with students. And let's not neglect the fact that face to face time with colleagues, right? That's really helps you focus working as a group or motivating students. And so I think one piece to think about is, maybe as a teacher or a parent, finding opportunities to communicate with your colleagues or friends, finding ways to be still social and share best practices or shares, ideas, things that are working right. This is a challenge for everyone, and while it can feel really isolating, it doesn't have to be as isolating, still finding ways to work as a teacher or a peer learning community or as a parent, even finding time to share, like what might or might not be working with your children. I think that's really important. And when it comes to student motivation, I think that's a big piece of helping them stay focused, and work seeing some really unique things coming from teachers and writing necessity breeds innovation. And so we're seeing teachers find ways of things around their house or saying, this many of you complete the assignment or you make this much progress, thinking about our mastery system. If you make it to master in this scale, I will walk on Legos or grow up my mustache or do a tick talk video in my children's Halloween costume. So we're finding really unique ways for teachers to still motivate students, even when they're not face to face. - Great ideas. And unfortunately we have a lot of questions continuing to come in, and we'll have both Meaghan and Jeremy on in the future, but, thanks for joining us both of you, and all of the work you do on a daily basis, helping teachers and parents navigate all this. For y'all as I say, every a live stream, thanks for joining. If you're in a position to do so, please think about donating to Khan Academy. As I said, we were running at a deficit even before this crisis, and now our traffic is roughly 2.53 of what it typically is. So we definitely need your help and support. Keep the questions coming, keep the ideas coming, because not only do we need resources, but we want to make sure that, how we deploy those resources are most in service to helping you, the student, the parent and the teacher. So stay safe and stay as healthy as possible over this crisis, and thanks for joining. It's as a fun way for all of us to stay connected with each other in this time of social distancing. I'll see you tomorrow.
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