>> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY, WELCOME BACK TO "A LATE SHOW."

MY GUEST TONIGHT HAS BEEN IN OVER 100 MOVIES.

AND THE YOU KNOW THEM, BECAUSE HE IS ROBERT DE NIRO.

HEY!

>> HI, HOW ARE YOU?

>> Stephen: THERE'S THE MAN RIGHT THERE?

SPEAK OF THE DEVIL, AND ANGEL HEART APPEARS.

( LAUGHTER ) LOUIE CIPHER HIMSELF.

YOU'RE LOOKING VERY DISTINGUISHED.

>> WELL, YEAH, I-- THAT'S-- YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO

DO.

>> Stephen: TRYING TO GO FOR...

>> HERE I AM, THE FIREPLACE BEHIND ME, AND THE MANTEL AND,

YOU KNOW, THE COUPLE OF BOOKS AND...

>> Stephen: I GOTTA SAY, YOU MAKE IT LOOK GOOD.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, I TRY.

>> Stephen: SO ARE YOU-- ARE YOU STAYING ACTIVE?

ARE YOU INSIDE ALL THE TIME?

ARE YOU GETTING OUT?

>> YEAH, I'M TRYING TO DO STUFF.

READ SCRIPTS, ON THE PHONE.

I JUST-- WORK OUT.

STAY-- TRY AND STAY ALIVE, YOU KNOW.

>> Stephen: THAT IS-- THAT IS-- THAT IS THE GOAL OF ALL OF

US RIGHT NOW.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: TRY TO STAY ALIVE.

WHAT'S YOUR WORKOUT.

DO YOU EVEN LIST, BRO?

>> I LIFT.

JUST KEEP THE BONES STRONG.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

>> IT'S NOT LIKE I LIKE LIFTING FOR THE SAKE OF LIFTING, BUT IT

KEEPS YOUR BONE MASS STRONG.

AND CARDIOAND THE USUAL.

TREADMILL.

SO ON.

>> Stephen: ARE YOU-- ARE YOU DOING CHIN-UPS, PULL-UPS, THAT

KINDS OF STUFF?

>> I DO THAT, TOO, YES.

>> Stephen: I HAVE THE IMAGE OF YOU AT THE BEGINNING OF "CAPE

FEAR" IN MY HEAD.

>> YEAH, I WISH I LOOKED THE WAY I DID THEN, BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE

OLDER NOW.

BUT I STILL CAN MANAGE.

>> Stephen: WHEN THIS IS ALL OVER, CLEARLY, THERE'S GOING TO

BE A MOVIE ABOUT THIS.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: IF THERE ARE EVER MOVIES AGAIN, THERE WILL BE A

MOVIE ABOUT THIS.

WHO DO YOU WANT TO PLAY?

CAN'T SAY FAUCI BECAUSE FAUCI HAS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN BY BRAD

PITT.

>> YEAH, YES, HE -- >> Stephen: CUOMO?

>> I GUESS I'LL PLAY CUOMO.

I LIKE -- >> Stephen: IT'S A GOOD PART.

>> YEAH, HE'S-- HE'S-- HE'S DOING WHAT-- WHAT A PRESIDENT

SHOULD DO.

>> Stephen: CAN YOU SEE PRESIDENT CUOMO?

YOU CAN SEE THAT?

>> I COULD SEE THAT.

YES, I COULD SEE IT.

I THINK... THOUGH, I'M FOR BIDEN AND I WANT EVERYTHING TO GO WELL

WITH BIDEN, YOU KNOW BUT AT LEAST... WE HAVE A... A PERSON

WHO IS VERY CAPABLE, A VERY CAPABLE BACKUM, IF YOU WILL--

NOT VICE PRESIDENT, BUT IF HE...

SOMETHING WOULD CHANGE, WHICH GOD FORBID NOTHING WILL CHANGE,

HE WOULD BE A-- HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB.

HE'S DOING WHAT ANY PRESIDENT SHOULD DO.

>> Stephen: YEAH.

YEAH.

AND-- AND WHAT NEW YORK DESERVES.

WHAT THE WORLD DESERVES.

BUT IT'S-- HE SEEMS LIKE A VERY-- LIKE, HE'S A REAL NEW

YORK GOVERNOR.

>> SURE, HE IS, YEAH, YEAH.

>> Stephen: YOU-- YOU-- NEW YORK HAS BEEN THROUGH 9/11, AND

HURRICANE SANDY.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU AND-- AND YOUR CHARITABLE OUTREACHES, AND

THE TRIBECA FILM FESTIVAL, ALL OF THOSE WERE ATTEMPTS TO

RESPOND TO THE CRISES THAT NEW YORK HAS GONE THROUGH.

WHAT DO YOU THINK-- WHAT LESSONS DO YOU THINK NEW YORK HAS

LEARNED FROM THOSE FNTSZ THAT CAN APPLY TO THIS RIGHT NOW?

>> WELL, THEY'RE-- THEY'RE DISASTROUS.

THEY WERE DISASTROUS SITUATIONS OF DIFFERENT-- OF DIFFERENT

SORT, OBVIOUSLY.

AND TERRIBLE THINGS THAT HAPPENED.

BUT AS CUOMO IS SAYING, YOU LEARN FROM THOSE EXPERIENCES AND

HOW TO HANDLE IT, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A DIFFERENT ONE, THEY'RE

ALL DIFFERENT, BUT THERE'S SOME COMMON THINGS THAT YOU CAN USE

FOR THIS... I DON'T KNOW-- THIS IS... A NATIONAL TRAGEDY.

IT'S A NATIONAL -- >> Stephen: IT'S A GLOBAL

TRAGEDY.

>> GLOBAL, YEAH.

BUT THERE ARE-- AS HE SAYS, NEW YORKERS WILL GET THROUGH IT.

AND, OF COURSE, WE WILL.

AND PANDEMICS HAVE BEEN IN THE WORLD BEFORE, AND PEOPLE

SURVIVED THEM.

WE, OF COURSE, COULD HAVE SURVIVED THIS MUCH BETTER IF...

IDIOT HAD DONE THE RIGHT THING AND LISTENED AND HEEDED ALL THE

WARNINGS.

THERE WERE MANY, MANY WARNINGS.

AND WE'RE ALL PAYING FOR IT NOW.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BAD MAYBE IN SOME WAYS, BUT NEVER LIKE THIS.

>> Stephen: WELL, I NEVER THOUGHT THE UNITED STATES WOULD

BE THE COUNTRY THAT WOULD RESPOND THE SLOWEST.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: I THOUGHT THAT WE, BEING THE MEDICAL LEADERS OF THE

WORLD, SCIENTIFIC LEADERS OF THE WORLD, WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE IT

MORE SERIOUSLY, AND THAT OUR LEADERS WOULD ACTUALLY FOLLOW

THE GUIDANCE OF THE SCIENCE AND MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS TO

ACTUALLY TAKE THIS SERIOUS FROM THE BEGINNING.

>> OF COURSE.

I MEAN, THAT'S-- THAT'S WHAT'S TO BE EXPECTED.

AND NOTHING, NOTHING.

IT'S... IT'S APPALLING.

IT'S APPALLING.

>> Stephen: AND NOW THE IDEA THAT, YES, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT

OF A CAVALIER ATTITUDE TOWARD THE GOVERNMENT NOW ABOUT, WELL,

YES, PEOPLE WILL DIE, BUT WE HAVE TO GET THE ECONOMY BACK.

AND THAT'S A LEGITIMATE-- THAT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN.

PEOPLE NEED THEIR JOBS, AND PEOPLE NEED THE FREEDOM OF

MOVEMENT.

BUT I FEEL LIKE THE PRESIDENT ISN'T TAKING IT SERIOUSLY

ENOUGH.

>> NO, NO-- WELL, AGAIN WE ALL A HEAR THIS.

EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT HIS GAME IS.

IT'S ALL ABOUT HIM GETTING RE-ELECTED.

YOU SAW IT DOWN IN ATLANTA, AT THE C.D.C., WHERE HE SAID-- HE

WANTED THAT SHIP IN THE BAY AREA AROUND SAN FRANCISCO TO STAY

WHERE IT WAS SO PEOPLE COULDN'T GET OFF SO HE COULD KEEP HIS

NUMBERS LOW.

I MEAN, THAT'S-- WHAT-- WHAT IS THAT ABOUT?

THAT'S INSANITY.

>> Stephen: IT IS.

AND IT'S ALSO-- IT'S ALSO PROBABLY PRETTY BAD POLITICS.

>> THAT'S IT.

>> Stephen: FROM JANUARY AND FEBRUARY AND INTO MARCH HE WAS

BETTING THE UNDER ALL THE TIME AND HE LOST ALL OF HIS CHIPS.

IT TURNS OUT HE HAD THE NUMBERS WRONG.

AND NOW HE'S BETTING THE UNDER AGAIN, THINKING PEOPLE WILL GO

SHOPPING BECAUSE HE TELLS THEM TO, OR GO TO RESTAURANTS BECAUSE

HE TELLS THEM TO AND NOT PAY ATTENTION TO THE RISE IN THE

DEATH TOLL.

NOT ONLY DOES IT SEEM CRAVEN ON A CERTAIN LEVEL, BUT IT ALSO

SEEMS JUST POLITICALLY DUMB FOR HIM TO DO.

>> YEAH, IT'S-- IT'S NUTS.

IT'S CRAZY.

IT'S CRAZY.

I HAVE NO WORDS FOR IT ANYMORE.

I JUST AM COMPLETELY...

NONPLUSSED, DUMBFOUNDED, CONUPON FOUNDED.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS GUY-- IT'S CRAZY.

AND WHAT'S SCARIER ABOUT IT ALL IS THE REPUB REPUBLICANS AND HIS

ENABLERS AROUND HIM ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING.

THEY'RE AROUND A CRAZY PERSON, AND THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING.

THEY'RE NOT STANDING UP TO HIM.

THEY'RE-- AS AN ACTOR, I WATCH THIS AND I SAY THIS IS LIKE--

THIS IS LIKE SHAKESPEARE.

THIS IS INCREDIBLE.

NOBODY HAS THE BALLS TO STAND UP TO THIS GUY.

AND THEY ALL HAVE A PLATFORM.

IF THEY WENT OFF-- BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT'S WHAT HE'LL DO--

HOPEFULLY HE GETS-- HE DOESN'T GET RE-ELECTED-- AND HE'LL TRY

TO HAVE SOME TALK SHOW OR SOMETHING AND TALK ALL HE WANTS.

BUT THAT'S THEN.

BUT NOW HE'S PRESIDENT.

BUT THOSE PEOPLE COULD DO THE SAME THING, AND THEY'RE NOT

DOING-- THEY'RE JUST NOT DOING ANYTHING.

IT'S-- IT'S-- WHAT COULD BE WORTH IT FOR THEM TO SACRIFICE

THEIR SOULS TO MAKE THIS DEAL WITH THE DEVIL TO WORK WITH THIS

GUY?

IT'S CRAZY.

IT'S CRAZY.

>> Stephen: BOB, WE HAVE TO TAKE A LILTSS BIT OF A BREAK,

BUT STICK AROUND EVERYBODY, WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE

MR. ROBERT DE NIRO.