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  • - Have I ever killed someone?

  • Oh boy.

  • (Latin music)

  • Hi everyone, Michael Franzese here,

  • former mob guy with the Columbo family back in New York,

  • I was a solider.

  • Caporegime at one point in time.

  • Lived in that life for over 25 years,

  • made a break back in 1995, I've left that life

  • and ever since I've been a motivational speaker.

  • I've written a number of books,

  • I've done a number of documentaries.

  • I'm here today to play Never Have I Ever.

  • Not something I would play back in the day.

  • All right, got a bunch of statements in front of me,

  • questions are gonna be asked,

  • I don't know if I've ever been asked these questions before

  • but we're gonna find out.

  • Never have I ever put a horse's head in someone's bed.

  • I have not.

  • But I gotta say, that's one of the greatest scenes ever

  • in The Godfather, it's something

  • and everybody remembers that.

  • I can certainly see my former associates doing it back then

  • and it was a great scene.

  • I wish I thought of that, but no, I didn't.

  • I never had to resort to something like that but

  • I know some other things that were done

  • that were kind of on that level

  • but we won't get into all of that.

  • Never have I ever had a hit put out on me.

  • I have.

  • You know, unfortunately, when you walk away from that life,

  • you're not allowed to do that

  • and my former boss, Carmine Persico,

  • was very upset when it became public

  • that I was walking away from that life

  • and he did put a hit out on me.

  • As far as I know, it's never been rescinded.

  • I don't know if those things ever go away.

  • So you're not allowed to walk away from that life.

  • When you take that oath,

  • you know, it's The Oath of Omertà,

  • of silence, you're not allowed to betray it,

  • you're not even supposed to admit that there is a mob

  • or that you're a part of it.

  • But yes, I've had a hit put out on me and,

  • you know, by the grace of God,

  • I've been able to overcome that challenge and here I am.

  • Never have I ever been to prison.

  • I have.

  • I spent eight years in prison,

  • got a 10 year prison sentence back in 1985,

  • I pled guilty to racketeering,

  • the underlying act was tax fraud.

  • I created a huge scam to defraud the government

  • out of tax on every gallon of gasoline.

  • I had over 350 gas stations,

  • 18 companies that were licensed to collect the tax

  • on every gallon of gasoline.

  • When I finally got caught, my partner testified

  • against me and a number of other people,

  • so I took a plea.

  • 10 year prison sentence, $15 million in restitution,

  • 5 million in forfeitures, went off to do my time.

  • You know, prison is what you make of it.

  • I mean, you're certainly there to be punished.

  • Whenever your freedom is taken away, that's punishment

  • and it's rough.

  • Never have I ever made a bribe.

  • I have.

  • Yeah, you know, back in the day,

  • we had a lot of politicians certainly on our payroll,

  • we used to pay them,

  • we used to fund a lot of their fundraisers,

  • we would go to them and contribute big dollars

  • in order for them to do our bidding.

  • As a matter of fact, in the gasoline business,

  • I needed to have licenses for my wholesale operation,

  • had to be licensed in order to collect the tax.

  • Well, I had 18 licenses, they weren't easy to get.

  • But I was bribing public officials in order to get 'em

  • and they were only too happy to do my bidding

  • and as a result of that,

  • I was able to actually defraud the government

  • with help of the government, you know,

  • and help of politicians.

  • It was very accessible to us at the time.

  • Never have I ever been an informant.

  • I have not.

  • Now, this is a controversial thing,

  • 'cause I want to straighten this out,

  • I'm glad I have an opportunity to do this.

  • I never put anybody in prison.

  • Nothing I ever told the government

  • ever resulted in anybody going to jail.

  • Have I spoken about my former life, sure.

  • But the things that I've talked about,

  • just about everybody knows because

  • my former associates have been captured on tape

  • and tape recorders and so on and so forth.

  • I will admit to this.

  • I did play kind of a game with the government.

  • For a time, I made them believe

  • that I might go along with them

  • but then in the end, I never did and as a result of that,

  • my parole was violated, I was sent back to prison.

  • So I want to make that clear, never been an informant,

  • never told anything to the government

  • that put anybody in prison

  • with my former associates.

  • Never have and never will.

  • Never have I ever fired a grenade launcher

  • while shouting "say hello to my little friend".

  • I have not.

  • - Say hello to my little friend.

  • (banging)

  • - I absolutely love that scene,

  • I thought that Pacino was terrific.

  • I mean, that was a classic movie, he was great in that film.

  • But no, I never had to fire a grenade or anything like that.

  • I did use weapons at that time.

  • Never used a machine gun either.

  • That was back in the 30s and the 40s and the 20s.

  • We didn't do that, we used short range pistols at the time,

  • so never had to resort to anything,

  • no high artillery like that.

  • Never have I ever killed someone.

  • Oh boy.

  • I'm gonna pull one of these.

  • You know, credibility in what I do is very important to me

  • so I never want to lie to anybody,

  • whether it's in private or in public.

  • I will tell you this, that life is a very violent life.

  • If you're part of the life, you're part of the violence,

  • there's no escape.

  • And if anybody tells you differently,

  • they're either not being honest with you

  • or they want to remain a member of that life and,

  • you know, I will say this.

  • Murder in that life was taken very seriously

  • and I will tell you this about myself

  • and I'm glad I have the opportunity to say this.

  • I don't judge other people, I don't know their hearts

  • but I was around a lot of guys,

  • that if they had to commit a violent act,

  • it seemed that that was part of them.

  • I'm not gonna say they enjoyed it

  • but they did it with some kind of fervor

  • and when I did it, when I was involved in anything

  • that might have had violence to be part of it,

  • I never felt good about it.

  • I want to make this clear.

  • I never glorify my former life

  • and the reason I don't do that,

  • because I do believe it's an evil life

  • and I want to be clear on this.

  • I'm not calling the guys evil.

  • I was one of them, I just happen to be very blessed.

  • But I don't know any family of any member of that life

  • that hasn't been totally devastated, including my own.

  • Now, not my wife and kids,

  • fortunately God has preserved them

  • but my brothers and sisters, mother and father

  • had a very, very difficult life

  • as a result of my dad's involvement in that life.

  • So any lifestyle that does that to families

  • is obviously an evil life

  • and I will tell you that I am extremely blessed

  • and very fortunate to be where I am today,

  • to have left that life and be able to talk about it

  • and hopefully be a source of encouragement and hope

  • to people, to make them understand that

  • you can get out of a bad situation in your life,

  • you can turn it around.

  • For me, it's all about my faith but,

  • you know, never give up hope.

  • Do the right thing and there's always a way out.

  • (Latin music)

- Have I ever killed someone?

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