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...new site. As you may have heard PewDiePie got into trouble in the media recently (clears throat)

I hate that Guy

I don't even care that it was a deep-fried meme.

The fact that he posted it speaks volumes.

I feel like I'm probably better off not talking about this, but I want to share my thoughts. I didn't know much about Demi I...

I've only really just played her video game a few years ago, and I realized that...uh..

It's for kids. She clearly has a very very young audience me to see that she's messing with drugs...

I just thought what an idiot. I'm not the greatest role model, but at least I've never done anything

Straight-out illegal, so I thought well, you know, it's just fun to make- fine to just make fun of it and I realized now

No, no, it wasn't because a lot of people seem to doubt my sincerity

I guess in some way. Just to give context it was 5 a.m. in the morning. Sometimes my dogs wake me up really early and uhh

This has nothing to do with anything.

Basically, I saw the meme it made me laugh and I posted it on like Twitter. I went to sleep two hours.

I woke up and um...

A lot of people were really upset to be honest. I didn't get it. I didn't get it at all.

I'm not the one doing drugs. What the heck did I do?

The meme is so ironic and so stupid talking about like like a boss. I was like

She's still alive. What's the problem if anything, this is a way to snap out of it like yeah, you were an idiot.

So the fact that people came after me, I was just I was really trying to understand why so I read up on addiction

I try to decipher in between the 'you should burn in fire'

messages cause- also a lot of people are saying that I was making fun of mental health.

Which no that wasn't the case at all. I was making fun of Demi and her poor choices.

Cause a lot of people were like 'Well you talked about mental help a few days ago in a video. You're such a hypocrite'

I wasn't doing that. I was making fun of Demi for her poor decision. I realized and I learned that

ostracizing and shaming is the last thing an addict needs to recover cause that's just going to make them more likely to

Relapse and fall back into that behavior. What an addict needs is support and help from

friends and family and I think the public as well. And I also learned that this is her second time

She's dealt with drugs. I just thought I'm really just kicking on someone that's on their complete lowest

I get why people are upset this was wrong for me to do it was a bad thing to do

I don't think it was the worst thing in the world, but it wasn't a nice thing

I can definitely say that. So I thought okay. You know what? I'll just delete it and I'll apologize.

sincerely and

That should be it.

How foolish I am...

I always get people telling me

Stop apologizing. You idiot. What are you doing? You're just making things worse.

Any time you apologize to these people they don't care and they're just gonna shame you even more. I think that's what happened.

BBC posted about it. NBC posted about it. BuzzFeed.

I think the BuzzFeed journalists on her Twitter call it the hell fire or something like that.

Like this is the hell we live in it's like Geez!

But I feel like if I think I've done something wrong...

I shouldn't have the ego or the strategy to just say no, it's better if I don't apologize.

a lot of people were saying that anyone could have posted this meme and no one would bat an eye and I I

Think there is some truth to that

I find it interesting how you have someone that's a role model to a lot of kids you make a message about how

Much better you are now and then you just fall back into the same pain and somehow I'm the bad role model in this

Situation, huh? I'm the villain for just posting a meme about it. It doesn't really make sense to me, and I'm not attacking her

I'm just saying that a lot of people were saying that it's not her fault for her addiction. It's an addiction

She can't control it and I agree

She shouldn't be shamed because of an addiction, but I also don't think babying people will help either

Saying that it's completely out of someone's control is also saying that it's not up to them to recover from it

It's like saying anyone that recovered from addiction didn't do it from their own work

And will it's just a completely random ven, which doesn't make any sense

it's always been a meme on this channel that anything I say will be picked up on the media and

I feel like this was just a testimony of that mean like that's it's a truth essentially anything I say will be

highlighted they will jump on any

reason to

put down my name because if they really cared about these issues about

addiction they would go after the people that that shed a light on it in a positive way not the ones that try and

Ridicule it. I don't know. I don't care moving on

I wasn't gonna talk about this, but it came on today and I watched it

I thought it was so crazy that I had to talk about. It kz9 said there's an interview with Logan Paul and man I

Want to like you Logan I swear but you making it really hard and I find this super interesting cos KZ and Logan are

very similar personalities, they're all about pushing the edge of

Living life to the fullest but their drives are just completely opposite

I think it means falling into the social medium machine

Over the past four years building an audience

Garnering false power through views which equates to money which equates to against success and

Then essentially losing it all

overnight becoming

the most hated man in the world

in the snap of a finger

So the hyperbole every single time the most hated man

Casey asked lo at Logan about this documentary that he's filming and

About the whole incident. Is this a fluff piece to make people feel better about Logan Paul? No, no, not at all this. It's it's

from

Making content throughout the years. I try to be as unbiased as possible and

this

Documentary is going to be as unbiased as possible, but it's me who makes it

Okay, great

I'm sure we very unbiased think people should can or will sympathize with me

Let's be honest Casey. Like let's be honest Casey. I don't know Marcus

I see through your social training Logan

When you put out content like that, do you realize the age of your audience? It's odd because Michael I'm 22 years old

It's not like I don't know why but whenever I see small things like this. I know I'm nitpicking

it feels

Disingenuous is it not?

Premature like it before you can tell a redemption story. There has to be an act of redemption

true

What is the act of redemption bin for Logan Paul? It's it's not been done yet

That's Logan is talking about how this documentary is going to be his redemption story because people love it a redemption story

People told me this

Verbatim so many times that you shouldn't you need to do your redemption

You need to film a documentary people told me this many times

That's how you'll do your comeback and people are telling Logan the same thing and that's why it's doing this documentary

Just like people told me after the wall street journal that I need to do a charity

For Jewish charities or something like that, and I said no

Not because I don't want to because but because it will seem like the most disingenuous thing ever

You're not doing it because you want to you're doing it to save your brand and people are smart enough to see through those things

the rat Casey has

Logan about the red, you know as soon as this forest incident

He tastes the rat or whatever

Why what was up with that? Yeah, the rat was that was me

Becoming obsessed with the idea of being a villain. I just I made the conscious decision

I'm gonna I'm gonna be the guy they think I am I can actually

Relate to Logan here a lot of times

After all the scandals I've been through I question my own morals. I question. Why do I keep ending up in?

These situations and a lot of times I find the answer to be I am genuinely a bad person. I do die

I genuinely think it a lot of times not all the times

But I think the difference is I'm not trying to make other people think

I'm a good person

I can make content and I have been for four years

For four years making people laugh smile believing themselves making them believe that they can accomplish their goals

Even if they're from a small town in, Ohio, I've been making videos for eight years

I just want to show people that you can make it. Even if you're just from a small town in Sweden

What are you saying to use that same pretext as?

Sort of justification for you know killing a rat or why didn't kill the rat

Just shut up. It doesn't matter at this point don't defend these things. It's the same with me

When I drop the n-bomb

A lot of people were like, he said it to another person and I always want to say no

No one heard me say it, but I'm not gonna use that defense because it doesn't matter

That's not what people took out of it some of the other more controversial sensational things you've done

Yeah, running around Japan wearing silly outfits. Yeah, so that Union sensitive to culture apparently for some reason

Casey calls

Casey calling Logan culturally insensitive. It's the most upsetting thing ever for him. I want to address this cuz

I'm not gonna lie. This is the the hardest thing about all this is I

Think being perceived as culturally insensitive

I'm not gonna lie, but the hardest thing out of all this it's the fact that you just called me

culturally insensitive

That's okay I are we expected to believe that or

As far as the outfits go they were on sale at a store the outfits were on sale on their store so then it's okay

Right next to the temple that we were at

For tourists do we not buy the outfits? Maybe he just doesn't understand what it is. There's a difference between culturally insensitive and

insensitive, but it also doesn't matter and you don't seem to understand why one is offensive anyway, so

I'm vegan. Now I

Think the most important thing to take out of this video is this I'm vegan now

Why do you think you being vegan is relevant to anything doing what you want to do to achieve your goals

Which is all like I said, it's always been that but all that stuff is overlooked

When you make mistake, or I can agree again with Logan here. He's done good

I mean, I don't agree with it, but he thinks he's done good like inspiring kids and I can relate to that

I think I've done a lot of positive for in with my channel as well that never gets highlighted

But I don't feel the need to constantly tell people like I'm a good person. Look I do it done all these things

I don't know these charities. I don't know these things. Look I'm a good person. That shouldn't be your mission to keep reminding people

so then Logan talks about how it led up to all this scandal like he was just

Constantly making videos and not thinking what he was doing. We got so caught up in

Creating that we did not stop to think about what we were making and whether or not it was right

Because it you make it you put it out

We were on autopilot essentially which is it's it's extremely dangerous when you're broadcasting to an audience of five to seven million people every day

And so there was no thinking there was it was create content create content create content not okay

Hey, take a step back. Slow down breathe. Do you believe that or is that bullshit?

Because if that's if that mission is the same as this this momentum this autopilot

Where's the distinction between wanting to do good and wanting to you know, looking for sensationalism that will drive clicks?

I'm not I'm not sure I understand the question

That's such a great question I'm not I'm not sure I understand Chris. Hey, this is too much of a mumbo-jumbo

He's saying that if you're just on autopilot, and you're not thinking about what you're doing, how can they you say?

That you care about spreading a positive message and not just caring about sensationalism. I understand I understand

Okay, I can go on pick details whatever you should watch you interview it's interesting a lot of people gave Casey

Or doing this. I think it's good to create a

Dialogue it's a shame how people are so militant towards people. They don't like that. They won't even talk to them

Because that's really how you create division more than anything, which is leads to more hate

I think is he's doing a noble thing. But the final point I find hilarious because Casey praises Logan's

Anti-suicide video that the video he did after the whole thing and the response from Logan

It's just that video. I think had a very important message behind. It was a I liked that video

I tweeted that I liked that video I get for it

but did it show you sort of the

Demonstrate to you that your channel is capable of so much more

And your reach is capable and your voice is capable of so much more than just in socialism views. Yes

Did it change you away from?

Sensationalism and views that what is a question his answer. It's it's the most viewed suus anti-suicide

PSA ever. It's the most

viewed ever

I am so great. I

Have the most viewed PSA anti-suicide video ever. I don't

Really want Lowen to come back but I don't think he can until he's completely honest

Because people are constantly going to be skeptical

especially at this point

I think this entire interview Logan is trying to give the answer that he thinks KZ wants and my tip for Logan