I really appreciate it. You know I'm a fan,

and I know this is tough to talk about a show.

But it's really heartwarming, and it's on Netflix,

and this season is in Philadelphia.

Philadelphia freedom opens the show,

and it is right immediately two seconds in,

you're like, "Ah."

How did you choose Philly, and, Karamo,

is this like an old "Real World"?

You having flashbacks?

-Yeah, the producers choose our city,

and they do a great job

because we end up being fish out of water

because Philly people are tough nuts to crack.

And so it was a challenge for all of us.

But for me especially, like you said, 15 years ago,

I was on "The Real World" there and to come back,

it's wild because now I'm, like, this mature adult with kids.

And when I was there, I was a 23-year-old drunk.

Like, you know, I didn't even tell the guys this.

We were at a -- one of our hero, his name is Nate.

He has a gym and we -- Bobby remade it over.

And literally, I went to a block party down the street from there

15 years before where I was, like, throwing up and puking.

And now I'm over there giving him, like,

life advice of like, "Be better.

You can do great things."

-However, I will say this.

You did say that now you're more mature.

Ain't none of us mature. None!

-You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.

[ Laughter ]

-But Philly is a tough nut to crack.

They are tough.

-Philly is the only place I've ever had somebody be like,

"Mm, I'm good."

-But it was just mostly initially, Jimmy.

So when we first -- -Yeah, initially.

-Yeah, when we first meet them, they're actually

quite similar to the Brits, and I say that as an American.

[ Laughter ]

-Yeah, you do.

Yeah, you do. -Yeah.

But the Brits are kind of a closed-off people.

We call them stiff upper lips for a reason.

You don't show emotion.

You don't really open up voluntarily.

And so it was a little harder this season.

I usually find it very, very easy to build a bond

with people and get them to talk to me.

It was the most difficult experience I've ever had.

-Usually -- -After doing hair in

Los Angeles and New York City for 13 years,

I just really didn't feel like they were any harder.

I really -- I don't know.

I didn't feel like they were any harder.

-Really?

Is there any advice that you guys have had

after five seasons that you --

kind of maybe go-to advice that you're like,

"This is really good to give out"?

-I'll start.

I think one of the things is that all of the heroes

and even in the time we're in right now, it's --

we always want to help other people.

You want to help your kids.

You want to be the best employee, the best boss.

You want to be the best sibling, spouse.

But really, you have to focus on yourself first,

and it's not selfish.

Because if you can't lift yourself up,

you can't lift anybody else up.

And I think that's something that's key every season.

Focus on you so you can then focus on others.

-Mine is really easy, Jimmy, and it's something

that I really started to encourage people to do

when we first started filming the show in season one.

And I still say it to this day.

And with everybody else, I say the same thing.

Don't -- Don't think that the way you present yourself

to the world is not important, and also,

the way you look at yourself in the mirror is not important.

Be kinder to yourself.

Yes, there are certain parts of your body

that you may not be happy with, but don't focus on those.

There's so much more about you that's wonderful.

So don't beat yourself up.

Actually look at yourself with kind eyes

and when you present yourself to the world,

know that that is a reflection of you.

You have to make an effort.

-You know, for me it's visibility.

You know, one of the I think most powerful parts

of our show is visibility.

And not just visibility for the LGBTQ+ community from us,

but visibility of our heroes.

You know, allowing the world to be able to put themselves

in a position of somebody else

and to see somebody through the eyes of someone

that's different from them.

You know, with the Black Lives Matter movement right now,

there's so many people's eyes

I think that are being opened up who weren't against it,

just didn't think about it.

Didn't think about how other people's lives

were being affected because it didn't affect them.

And so for me, I think visibility is so important

because it opens everyone's eyes to be like, you know what?

There are people out there who struggle every single day

because of the color of their skin.

And that's not okay. "It didn't affect me.

I didn't think of it before but you know what?

Now that I'm seeing it, it does.

And I'm going to get out there and I'm going to march

and I'm going to do everything I can do to change it."

So I think visibility

is one of the most important things to help change.

-Antoni? -Microwave a lemon

for five seconds before you squeeze it

and you'll get a lot more juice out.

-Really?! -Wow.

-Wow. -No, on a serious note, I'll --

Karamo, I'll text you instructions after.

-No, because I want to say, whey did you never give that tip?

-Antoni. -I was truly blown away.

-Antoni. -I swear to God.

I swear to God. -That's a fruit.

Karamo's not going to eat that.

-Fair. -No, but in all seriousness,

I think, you know --

and this is kind of more of an all-encompassing thing,

whether it's -- with the heroes,

I always try to encourage them to educate themselves

about how to feed themselves, how to cook for other people.

And that really goes for just about anything.

If you're confused about literally anything,

if you don't understand

the systemic racism in this country -

I know we're bringing it up a lot

but it's literally like the topic at hand, educate yourself.

Resources are out there.

Education is so incredibly powerful

in taking something that's a concept

that you don't understand, and making it personal

and understanding why it's important.

-Speaking of education, this is what I would say.

Honey, it took me 1,600 hours to get my hair license, right?

So before you go in to do kitchen beautician at home

and do at-home hair color or an at-home haircut,

think about how many hours your stylist went to school

and how many experts, like, are trying to figure out

how to do your hair cuter, right?

Because especially if you're dealing with,

like, loss of job or insecurity of finances and stuff

and it's going to be harder for hair dressers to, like,

take new clients, because it's such, you know,

a new world in terms of, like, salons and reopening and stuff.

I know I always say be cautious and, you know, Jimmy,

yes, it's good you've only cut the very back, isolate it.

Keep your job small.

Don't do too much.

Remember that hairdressers, like, really work

so hard to figure out how to do good hair.

And actually, you know, our training is like,

I think at least double what the average police officer's

is to get their training, so,

yeah, think about how hard hairdressers work and really --

you don't want to be going back to the salon

to get corrective color or corrective haircuts

when you're trying to make

really important changes in America.

You don't want to be focusing

on going to the salon every two seconds.

You know? -Yeah.

-Don't mess it up at home.

-Let's go. We need -- We need change.

This is great.

I can't even tell you, the world needs it right now.

It's really some light that's helpful and again,

just getting out there and talking and showing

that it's okay to talk

and there's other people that are feeling the same way

and have the same questions that you do.

It's comforting.

And so I want to thank you guys so much for what you're doing.

Thank you for coming on the show.

Congratulations on the season.

I'm sure it's going to help a lot of people.

-Thanks, Jimmy. -Bye, guys.

-Bye. -Love you, guys.