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the waves are flat and what better way
to stay fit and in the game by going for
a surf skate. Today I'm trying out two
different board brands arguably the two
biggest in the game to see which one I
like better let's get into it. if you're
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@kalesbroccoli Here's what's coming up
look that was fun that's cool let's try
the SmoothStar
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I'm gonna be testing for three main
things well after a big morning let's
chat about the verdict it just wasn't as
responsive but definitely take that with
me yeah what it feels like it'd be like
a wider long longer board. I remember
when I was 18 I was up the coast and I
was surfing with some friends and before
they went out in the water they just
brought out all these surf skates and
they rode them and I remember trying it
back then and I hated it, hated it so I
didn't touch another surf skate for
about eight years. Um full transparency I've
been using SmoothStar boards with
clients mostly for the past year so I'm
quite familiar with how they work I
haven't used Carver's a lot
this one looks sick though if you have a
look at it, I mean it kind of looks like
a mini surfboard this is their
collaboration with mayhem it's really
cool
the truck seems a lot stiffer than the
SmoothStar this one tends to be, that
might be because I've used this one more
it's a little bit looser but I don't
know it could be good it could be a bad
thing I'm interested to see which one I
like more this one definitely looks
cooler. The surfskates really are a
fantastic way to get repetitive on land
training in for surfing one of the
biggest challenges with surfing is that
unless you're in a wave pool it's pretty
hard to get lots of waves on demand to
just try tricks over and over again. By
skating we can line up and repeat our
current training at a high frequency
leading to faster progression. When I was
younger I used to skate a bunch but only
on regular boards these surfskates
differ in their overall shape and in
their front trucks. These front trucks
rotate which changes the way the board
moves across the ground and how it
responds to your body movements,
that's the theory anyway. So today I'm
going to be testing for three main
things. The first one is speed generation
and flow so that is how effectively each
board simulates and responds to what I
consider proper speed generation
technique. Number two I'm going to be
testing for rotational potential so that
is how tight of an arc I can create
without kicking the tail and lifting the
front of the board upwards. This will
essentially form the basis for maneuver
training. And number three practicality
this is just getting from A to B so if
you want to check the surf or head
down the shops, which board would you be
more likely to use and which one would
be just more enjoyable and easy.
Importantly I'm also going to ask any
strangers or surfers who rock up today
will see to test the boards as well just
to eliminate any kinetic bias because I
have been working with SmoothStar for the
last year
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Speed generation on a wave starts with
the upper torso creating a twisting and
talking pressure on the hips and then
the feet which should drive into the
board and then press us forward. By
creating an undulating flowing motion
with the body you can move up and down
the wave to build speed before releasing
it into a big maneuver. It's an essential
part of surfing because all turns have
speed generation technique as their
foundation. Let's try the Carver first
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that was fun that's cool let's try this
SmoothStar
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Speed generation super close I just
found that when I was on the carver it
took a little bit to get going and
probably felt like it was more similar
to riding like a big fish or something.
It just didn't want it, it didn't respond
as actively as the SmoothStar did. I felt
like once it was going I could keep up
the flow quite nicely on the Carver but
it just took a little bit more and also
turning it felt like my legs were
burning a lot more. It took a lot more
work to get the board to turn but I felt
like the smoothStar was just sort of more
responsive, a lot more responsive and
then once I was going I kind of, I had to
keep up the flow which is probably more,
which is a lot closer to surfing
there was less of a skateboard feel
about it and it just tended to move a lot
more actively and be a little bit more
responsive in how it turned and things
like that. So I think speed generation
and flow I'm gonna give it to the SmoothStar
by one or two points. Midway
through our test somebody told me that
Carver have a more surf specific
truck, the c7 than the one I'm currently
using on the mayhem model the CX. So I
managed to get my hands on a setup that
has a c7 system underneath to try that
too. To be honest I'm still not super
impressed with the responsiveness of the
system. It's not just about pumping
forward either but also how the board
doesn't seem to flow between maneuvers
as well. On the Carver I find myself
losing speed once I do a turn compared
to the SmoothStar which tends to roll
between turns just like a surfboard
would. It responds really well to me
getting compressed and low and then
extending into the next turn which mind
you is an area of surfing that I have to
focus on with all my students
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Now let's ask someone else's opinion
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Okay yep and then up then clap over here
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Oh good it felt sort of easier to that
than the other one
yeah the other one felt harder to I get
used to no but this one's sort of more
fun I think yeah and you get going yeah
oh actually I don't know it was pretty
fun yeah
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The Carver feels like it'd be like a
wider long longer board whereas the
SmoothStar feels like a predominant
like performance shortboard. Now let's
compare the Carver and the SmoothStar
for rotational potential. Good rotation
in surfing is super important if you're
looking to add a spark to all your turns
to be able to flow dynamically across
the wave whilst expressing power output
through your maneuvers. I'm trying to
work through a forehand top turn here
and also throwing in a few roundhouse
cutbacks. These will help engage the
relative cross over to surfing of each
board. Ideally I want to see tight
controllable turning arcs which don't
lose speed throughout.
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Oh
in this test the SmoothStar really outshone
the Carver by a long way at least a
few points. I'm guessing the differences
mainly attributed to the technology in
the truck. If you look at all three from
the side when you rotate the truck you
can notice some differences in the way
they respond and the angle at which they
turn
I think the angles on the SmoothStar
allow for a smoother turn with sharper
rotational potential and this translates
into better performance. Definitely a
performance that more closely matches
surfing. Importantly on a surfboard you
can't just push along on the wave to
build speed. You need to pop-up and get
going immediately and if we compare the
three boards in the immediate speed
potential which is a reflection of
responsiveness in the board SmoothStar
once again takes the cake.
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Now let's run the boards through their
final test,
practicality getting from A to B. This
test is for those who don't really care
about surf specific carryover or
training. It's for those who just want a
board to go and check the surf from
their house before paddling out or to
cruise around at the skatepark
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22.67 seconds from
the end sign to this last van. now I'm
gonna try the SmoothStar. The SmoothStar
with 24.94
basically 25 seconds so only
over 100 meters so it's quite a
significant time difference and I also
had to put in some more pumps so this
one definitely SmoothStar was not as
fast. Perhaps not as practical as getting
from A to B. Let's wrap up everything and
give you guys a final analysis. Overall I
definitely think that for surf training
for surf specific carryover it's very
hard to go past the SmoothStar simply
because I think it better mimics the
surf movements required to rip and get
moving. This is probably a reflection of
the ethos of the brand itself SmoothStar
have been from the get-go all
about surfing and I think the boards are
a result of that. Being so responsive
they are definitely harder for a beginner
to get used to but so is surfing
and if "surfing better" is your goal then
it makes sense to me to challenge
yourself and train with the most
specific tools you can. SmoothStar is
just that specific to surfing. Carver I'll
give it to them are typically seen as a
cooler brand appealing more likely to
the aesthetics rather than function with
the biggest example of this being the
small area to place your back foot on
the mayhem model. So I don't like my foot
hanging off the edge so much. To achieve
a surfboard shape and sacrifice that
area at the back for your back foot
which is incredibly important I felt
like it's just an indicator that their
priorities are maybe out of place. I
think I'd rather something functional.
Now the cover was much easier for my lab
rats to adapt to because they respond
less and a more stable but this could
have its drawbacks
beginners aren't likely to develop
stronger balanced riding the Carver and
intermediate surfers aren't likely to
practice more radical turns on it either.
One of the most telling side-by-sides I
think we can look at from this test is
the rotational potential. We see on the
Carver's that my body is unable to
really come off center something
required in surfing to turn really well.
This is because the trucks won't flex
enough to allow it. On the SmoothStar
you can see I'm well off-center and if
we compare this to surfing it's actually
a really close simulation.
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For me Carver generally feels a little bit
locked up. Even the videos that I've seen
of the pros or whoever uses Carver they
all seem to be more drawn out unless
their tail sliding. But I'm not a big fan
of tail sliding on skateboards for ocean
training because it's a lot harder
to tail slide with three fins under you
in the water. So I think that overall the
SmoothStar definitely takes the cake
when it comes to surf training but if
you're just looking for a board to get
from A to B to leave the house, grab a
coffee, go and check the surf and come
home that's where I can see going more
towards a regular skate board which is
which I think what this is, could be an
advantage. For me especially as a coach
and especially someone interested in
improving surf performance I think 100%
I'll go with the SmoothStar every time.
That one over there. What's that one called? That's called the
SmoothStar. That's definitely a little
bit harder to get used to if you haven't
skated too much before. And that one
super fun, super easy to get used to
yeah but definitely take that with me. If
you had to pick one that was closer to
surfing which one? Definitely
SmoothStar yeah definitely.
Just the movements I guess are pretty
similar to surfing and would help to
progress I guess with your surfing as
well. So for someone wanting a surf
trainer which one do they get? Definitely
The SmoothStar for sure.
Having the Carver being a tighter board
it feels like it'd be like a wider long
longer board. Whereas the SmoothStar
feels like a predominant, like
performance shortboard. For someone
running an A to B cruiser what do they get?
Definitely a Carver. If you're just looking
to get from A to B yeah the Carver for sure. If you
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keep shredding
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