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  • - Hi, I'm Dr. Dendy Engelman.

  • I'm a board-certified dermatologist in Manhattan

  • and I work for Manhattan Dermatology and Cosmetic Surgery.

  • I'm here to take a deep dive into

  • the Go to Bed With Me comments section

  • in order to get to the bottom of some of

  • your burning questions.

  • In this episode, we're gonna talk specifically about

  • process, tools, and injectibles.

  • First step, we're gonna talk about process.

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  • The first comment is from Mona Sabbar.

  • "Dear Doctor, I'm really concerned about dairy products

  • "and their relation to acne.

  • "Can you explain it briefly, thank you," heart.

  • Okay Mona, you are exactly right.

  • Dairy does play into acne and there are two things

  • in diet that can play into increased breakouts

  • and we used to think that it was chocolate

  • or greasy food and that's all kinda been debunked

  • and the two things that really have been shown

  • and proven in the dermatologic literature

  • for making increased breakouts are dairy

  • and high glycemic index foods, so those are foods

  • that spike our blood sugar really quickly.

  • So what I tell patients every day is pay attention

  • to your diet and how it affects your skin.

  • If you feel like you had an indulgent weekend of pizza

  • and ice cream and you're breaking out on Monday,

  • then maybe we have some interplay with dairy

  • being a culprit in our breakouts.

  • So let's try to eliminate that as much as possible.

  • The good news about skin is that if it's good

  • for your body, it's probably good for your skin as well,

  • so we have to think about healthy living,

  • clean eating, drinking a lot of water.

  • Probiotics to take are not only good for gut health

  • but they also are great for skin health

  • and so that can be an easy way to implement

  • some tiny changes that not only make you look better,

  • but make you feel better as well.

  • So Vee V said "celebrity skin is 70% procedures

  • "and 30% skincare."

  • I would put a pretty significant percentage

  • also on great genetics.

  • I mean we all are kind of dealing with the hand

  • we're dealt and certainly celebrities are born

  • with some pretty good hands in their appearance

  • and stature and figures.

  • That said, not all celebrities have great skin.

  • I treat a lot of celebrities and I help them

  • with a lot of skin issues, whether it's acne,

  • rosacea, sensitivities, and procedures are also

  • a big part of looking great.

  • I always have patients who come to me

  • and they just think that celebrities flawlessly

  • and effortlessly look amazing and that is not the case.

  • There's a huge commitment to both skincare

  • and procedures, almost weekly, in order

  • to maintain their looks.

  • One thing that I think patients can do at home

  • that is very much like celebrities is really just

  • stick to a good routine.

  • I mean there's not a ton of magic in the fact

  • that all these great products that we have at home

  • will not work if they just sit in the medicine cabinet,

  • and the people who I treat who are celebrities

  • are certainly dedicated to having good skin,

  • and they know that if they kinda slack off

  • on their products that really work for them,

  • then their skin doesn't look as great.

  • Maddie said "I watched a video where a dermatologist

  • "said that if you mix skincare products

  • "from different brands, you're mixing different chemistries,

  • "his words, and can cause irritation.

  • "Is there any truth to this?"

  • Maddie, I would say that there's probably

  • a little bit of truth in the testing.

  • I mean obviously if you're a formulator for skincare,

  • you want everybody to buy every product in your offering.

  • The reality is if you use an over the counter cleanser

  • and somebody else's vitamin C, and someone else's retinol,

  • it's probably gonna live compatibly together,

  • but we don't know because they haven't

  • been formulated together, and so there probably is

  • some truth to mixing chemistries, but I don't think

  • that it's gonna counteract the efficacy

  • of each individual product if you wanna mix and match.

  • That being said, you certainly want to make sure

  • that you're using the right products at the right time,

  • and there are certain chemicals just categorically

  • that you may not want to mix.

  • For example, you might not want to do a very strong

  • glycolic acid and then follow that with a retinol,

  • that's gonna be too irritating for the skin.

  • So it's not necessarily a formulator per se,

  • but just the active ingredient.

  • Lady S says "can we stop with the microtear BS and lies?

  • "There's literally no such thing."

  • Well Lady S, there is literally such thing,

  • and I see it all the time and the good news is

  • that we've gotten away from a lot of the harsh exfoliants

  • that are in a lot of formulas.

  • I mean when I think back to when I was an adolescent,

  • the St. Ives Apricot Scrub was one that had

  • like harsh particles in it, and that can cause

  • microirritation and tears over time.

  • Certainly under the eye, where that skin's very delicate,

  • around the nose if you ever look at people

  • and they have like these dilated vessels

  • that are there, those are areas where the skin

  • is very sensitive and prone to injury.

  • So we want to love our skin at home

  • and we don't want to do anything too harsh

  • in order to irritate it, but the reality is,

  • you can cause some injury in your skin

  • based on certain skincare products or even devices.

  • Munira Jamali says "you do know that clinical trials

  • "have proven there is no benefit

  • "to consuming collagen in your diet?

  • "Collagen is produced endogenously by your body."

  • Munira, you're half right.

  • Collagen is produced by the body but you can

  • increase your body's stores by oral ingestion of collagen.

  • And this is where it gets really tricky

  • 'cause not all ingestible collagens are created equally.

  • There are studies that have been documented

  • in our dermatologic literature that show

  • that they've not only traced it from ingestion

  • but it's been incorporated into the dermis

  • in meaningful amounts enough to decrease

  • the depth of crows' feet by 20% in just eight weeks.

  • Now it's not the only thing that we can do

  • to create collagen, you can also use retinoids

  • and you can use vitamin C, these are all

  • different ways topically to also do that,

  • because the problem with ingestible collagen

  • is there's no vegan form, and so it needs come

  • from an animal source and a lot of people

  • want to shy away from that and I understand

  • that's certainly a personal choice.

  • If that's something that you follow in the lifestyle,

  • then you can go at it in a topical application

  • in order to increase more collagen production.

  • The one that I recommend to patients

  • is called Verisol Collagen, V-E-R-I-S-O-L,

  • and that's the one that's really been proven

  • in the literature to support the skin,

  • increase total body stores of collagen,

  • it's not just helpful for your skin

  • but also for your joints because collagen

  • is one of the main building blocks and substances

  • of connective tissue.

  • Now let's get into the fun stuff, tools.

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  • "Are cleansing brushes, washcloths really necessary,

  • "and can you wash your face in the shower?"

  • Yeah, you can totally wash your face in the shower

  • and you don't have to have a cleansing brush or tool.

  • A lot of people, especially dermatologists

  • and those who are treating a lot of rosacea

  • or people with sensitive skin actually

  • are a little bit hesitant to recommend cleansing tools

  • because it can irritate the underlying skin condition.

  • So if you're happy about washing your face in the shower

  • and that's working for you and you don't have acne

  • or breakouts or any skin problems,

  • then by all means, continue to do that.

  • So if I were gonna rank things from most gentle

  • to strongest I would certainly say that hands

  • are probably the most gentle, we can obviously

  • regulate and feel how our pressure that we're using.

  • Then I would do like muslin cloth or something

  • very soft that is helping to remove

  • but not with any texture.

  • Then I would go to textured washcloth.

  • Then I would go to cleansing brushes.

  • The problem that I find with cleansing brushes

  • is that people sometimes get into trouble

  • by giving a lot of pressure.

  • You just want the brush to do the work,

  • so just hold it where it's barely contacting the skin

  • and it's gonna exfoliate for you, but people

  • who have acne kind of want to beat it up

  • and they're really angry with it

  • and they press into the skin, and then over time

  • that can exacerbate the acne that's underlying.

  • So we want to be really gentle in our cleansing,

  • we want it to be effective but you don't have

  • to spend a lot of money in order to get a clean face.

  • So So Zen asks "question, what is your opinion

  • "on at-home dermarollers?

  • "Who should use them, how and how often

  • "should they be used?

  • "Also, jade rollers.

  • "Do they have a scientific basis

  • "or are they just a gimmick?"

  • I like home dermarollers for certain indications

  • like those who have acne scarring,

  • but not on active acne.

  • I think that that can worsen existing acne,

  • so if it's old acne scarring where people

  • have textural irregularities, I do find

  • that you can get some improvement

  • with persistent at-home rolling.

  • We do in office procedures where we do

  • much more aggressive microneedling,

  • but some people can't afford that or they don't

  • have access to those who offer it,

  • so it's certainly better than nothing

  • and it can help with textural changes.

  • That said, we wanna be really careful with the products

  • that we're using when we're undergoing

  • these at-home dermarollers, because some things

  • can make it more irritating 'cause you've opened

  • up channels into the skin and so it's kind of

  • being absorbed deeper into the skin

  • and can be really irritating.

  • For jade rollers, I really like them.

  • I don't know if they're a gimmick or not

  • but I think that there's a lot to be said

  • about facial massage.

  • It's not as hot in the U.S. as it is in Asia,

  • but those who do this frequently really,

  • I find benefit for them.

  • Their skin looks better, it's less congested,

  • especially under the eyes and areas that tend to be

  • a little bit more puffy.

  • It helps to improve the lymphatic drainage

  • and so I'm a big fan of facial massage.

  • I think that it's great and if this is a way

  • that helps you to remember to do it,

  • even for five minutes a day,

  • it's not gonna hurt and it may help.

  • One of my favorite tools is one called Conture,

  • which is C-O-N-T-U-R-E, and it's basically like

  • a gym for your face, it uses pneumatic compression

  • to pull the skin up into the device

  • and then puts it right back down

  • and that increases blood supply, oxygenation,

  • and over time helps stimulate collagen.

  • So it's kind of a fix-all for whatever issue you're having,

  • whether it's pore size, fine lines, wrinkles,

  • you can use it on the face, the neck, the chest,

  • and so it's one that's kinda from here to here,

  • one size fits all and you just need one device,

  • and so I really like that one because it's also gentle,

  • it's not having any break in the skin,

  • it's not gonna cause irritation, but over time

  • it really works.

  • So Eva C says "what do you think of shaving

  • "the fluffy hair on one's face?

  • "It's supposed to make your skin healthier

  • "but I'm not convinced, especially as a woman

  • "with thicker facial hair."

  • So I was just in my office before this

  • and I was talking with Mila, my esthetician

  • about dermaplaning, which is the in-office procedure

  • that we offer to remove the lanugo hairs,

  • those tiny little white vellus hairs that people have.

  • And she really feels like it improves

  • the absorption of chemical peels and makes

  • the efficacy much better.

  • Really when you're removing the surface

  • of the skin cells and the hair, it does exfoliate

  • the skin, and your skin will look glowy and pretty

  • and better, but you want to make sure

  • that you leave it to the professionals, I think,

  • 'cause some of these at-home devices,

  • unless you just want to use a razor,

  • I've seen some patients who've come in

  • and they're irritated and they've actually

  • like lacerated their face, so we wanna keep you safe

  • and let's leave the blades to the professionals,

  • unless you're using like a standard,

  • run of the mill razor, which certainly,

  • a lot of my patients do and it works for them

  • and that's fine too.

  • So Audrey says "don't know if dermarolling

  • "and vitamin C is such a good mix."

  • Audrey's not wrong.

  • It sometimes can be a bad mix depending on your skin type.

  • Vitamin C is an acid, and some people can't tolerate it.

  • It can be irritating to the skin,

  • it can cause redness and irritation even in

  • non-compromised skin, so if you're dermarolling,

  • and having little channels of microinjury into the skin,

  • it could potentially irritate you.

  • Kenny follows up with "it is when you're using 0.25

  • "which it looks like she was.

  • "Any deeper and could cause stinging

  • "if it's L-ascorbic acid.

  • "I use 0.5 and have never had a problem

  • "using vitamin C after."

  • So this is just talking about the depth of the needles,

  • 0.25 over 0.5 and that's the depth of penetration

  • that you can get based on different dermarollers.

  • So certainly the deeper it goes, the more the potential

  • for irritation but I would say that's really

  • more specific to the skin type

  • than the depth of penetration, so if vitamin C irritates you

  • when you're not derma rolling, then certainly

  • don't use it when you are.

  • Let's move onto a juicy topic, injectables.

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  • So Laura Cole says "does anyone know

  • "what is the difference between Botox and fillers?"

  • I do Laura, and you wanna go to someone who does, too.

  • I always see this and I kinda laugh

  • when I'm in the checkout line and one of the tabloids

  • will say botched Botox and it's like

  • clearly not a Botox issue, but it is confusing.

  • Like you know that they've had some kind of injectable

  • and the layperson often can't read is that too much

  • neurotoxin or is that too much soft tissue augmentation,

  • which is filler.

  • So the differences are quite real

  • and one is relaxing muscles, that's Botox,

  • and one is filling in volume or helping to lift the skin,

  • and that's filler, and so the easy rule of thumb

  • is anything from the cheekbones up

  • is kind of a Botox issue, and from the cheekbones down

  • is a filler issue.

  • For licensed and trained professionals

  • who do this all the time, we do break those rules

  • but it's just an easy starting point.

  • So if we think about wrinkles between the,

  • you know, the 11s, between the eyebrows,

  • into the forehead, the crows' feet, that's all Botox.

  • The tear trough, the mid-face, the jaw,

  • the lips, all of that is more of a filler issue.

  • The smile lines, those are all areas

  • where we put filler in order to improve

  • the appearance of the skin.

  • Definitely the take home here is you always

  • want to go to someone who definitely knows the difference

  • and where to use what and how much.

  • Neurotoxins in the face are not for the neophyte,

  • I mean we have to have a great understanding

  • of facial anatomy and the activity of the product

  • you're using and the dose, so we wanna make sure

  • that you go to someone who knows exactly

  • what they're doing and what your needs are.

  • And honestly, I always tell patients this too,

  • if you don't feel comfortable during

  • the initial consultation with who's gonna inject you,

  • then run away, don't be talked into anything

  • that you don't feel comfortable doing.

  • For neurotoxins, all of the ones that we have available

  • today are a baseline of Botulinum toxin

  • and that is a relaxant, it works to block

  • the communication between the nerve ending

  • and the muscle, so basically they can't speak to each other

  • so when the nerve tells the muscle to contract,

  • it doesn't hear it, and so the muscle's relaxed.

  • Now we used to think about Botox being something

  • that was so obvious that people, you could tell

  • they definitely do it and now we can use it

  • in very subtle ways to where it just looks softened

  • but you still have full expression and are able to move

  • and give nonverbal communication when you need to.

  • For filler, most of them are hyaluronic acid,

  • and that is just a sugar.

  • It's naturally occurring in our body

  • and if we think about the dermis as like a dried sponge,

  • the sponge material is the collagen,

  • and when you add water and plump up that sponge,

  • that's the effect of what hyaluronic acid would do.

  • It holds about 1,000 times its molecular weight in water

  • so it really plumps up the tissue from within.

  • The good news about hyaluronic acid fillers

  • which we know hyaluronic acid is in

  • a lot of beauty products that we apply topically

  • 'cause it's so good at pulling in moisture.

  • Hyaluronic acid fillers are reversible,

  • meaning that we can inject an enzyme

  • and they can be melted and dissolved

  • and that is a nice safety net to have.

  • A lot of the other fillers are made

  • from calcium hydroxylapatite or something called PLLA

  • and those once they're in, they're in,

  • and so they are not reversible, so you need to know

  • what filler's being used and where it's being used

  • and why it's being used.

  • So feel free to ask questions to your injector,

  • they should easily be able to answer them

  • to make sure that you're comfortable

  • with what's going in your face.

  • Kelly Smith says "how young is too young for Botox?"

  • Hmm, "I didn't think 28 year olds got Botox."

  • Well Kelly, I have much younger than that

  • who come in for Botox and my general approach

  • is never age, because I have 22 year olds

  • who need Botox and I have 42 year olds who don't,

  • so it's really what your face is showing,

  • and so when I look at and assess someone's face,

  • if they have expression lines that are there

  • when they're not making the expression,

  • that's kind of our benchmark for when it's time

  • to start talking about Botox because we know

  • that over time they're not gonna get better,

  • they're only gonna get worse.

  • So if you start gently, just relaxing those muscles

  • so that they're not making the lines,

  • you'll never have the wrinkle and so that's

  • the whole idea, it's very controversial to talk

  • about preventative Botox, it's not that you're preventing

  • you know, I have a two year old, I'm not

  • injecting her preventatively with Botox,

  • but at some point, you know, you start to see the signs

  • of aging and you head that off at the pass,

  • and so that's how I approach prevention,

  • is looking where the problem's gonna be,

  • stopping that, and softening it so that you don't

  • ever have the lines, and so that's the approach I have.

  • It's not really an age, it's more of

  • what your face is showing.

  • Botox in a medical indication is used

  • for all kinds of things, TMJ, migraines,

  • torticollis where you can't even straighten your neck,

  • and these were originally the medical indications

  • for which it was used and then we realized

  • that it can be also used for unwanted facial expressions

  • that are causing wrinkles, and so there are

  • plenty of applications that are not cosmetic

  • that the medical usage of Botox is there for

  • and I'm so happy that we have that to help

  • in both the medical use and the cosmetic use.

  • McCallMeLauren says "I want Botox so badly," sad emoji.

  • "Isn't it expensive AF though?"

  • Kind of, but it's worth it.

  • I would say that it just depends on

  • what area we're treating.

  • Certainly, one of the first signs

  • that we show signs of aging is around the crows' feet area

  • and that doesn't use a lot of neurotoxin,

  • and therefore it's not gonna be as expensive.

  • If you're a man and you have tons and tons

  • of wrinkles in your, between your eyebrows

  • and on the frontalis, then that's gonna take a lot,

  • so the price goes up because the more we use,

  • it's a very expensive product even for me to buy,

  • the more the cost is for the patient.

  • So if you start early, I often find

  • that patients can go even longer than what's

  • been reported in the package insert,

  • which the longevity of the filler

  • is every three months, but I have those who push it

  • to four and six months if they start early

  • and those muscles are never really regaining full strength.

  • I do tell my patients, this is like a luxury item.

  • I mean I really want a certain bag,

  • and it is an investment, but if it makes you happy

  • and it makes you look better, often over time

  • it's a great, worthwhile investment,

  • and I always joke that when I first came out of training,

  • the girls would splurge for those great pair of shoes

  • or the bag, and I was like honey,

  • if the guy's picking you up at the bar

  • 'cause he loves your bag, you're going

  • after the wrong guy.

  • So if we put the investment in our face,

  • that's the accessory you carry around all the time.

  • So in that, to me, that's worth every bit

  • of extra investment.

  • So I would say that yes, it is a luxury item,

  • but it's certainly a good investment in yourself

  • when done correctly and naturally.

  • So K6Kirei says "is it possible to be vegan

  • "and use Botox and fillers?

  • "I read that Botox and fillers aren't vegan

  • "and they are tested on animals.

  • "So are there vegan friendly fillers?"

  • I don't know of any medical device or medicine

  • that isn't tested on animals, and that is just

  • a sad fact, but the FDA is never going to allow

  • for something to be approved for human consumption

  • or usage without documenting safety in non-humans.

  • So sadly, there are not any vegan friendly fillers,

  • but you know what, there's not even

  • vegan friendly Advil.

  • Everything that we consume or use on humans

  • has been tested on animals and that's just the sad truth,

  • but we have to keep everybody safe.

  • So Oseb says "I have the feeling that there's

  • "something wrong with his lips."

  • And then Dream Catcher says "lip fillers."

  • And then Laura Cole says "does he have lip filler?

  • "I feel like everyone does now.

  • "Are they that bad?"

  • I just saw a patient today who I thought

  • had had terrible lip filler and she hadn't,

  • she was young and she was getting married

  • and she brought it up, she said,

  • "my lips are so asymmetric."

  • So not all people who have asymmetry to their lips

  • or what you would consider distortion

  • have actually even had medical or cosmetic procedures.

  • Also, we certainly can go overboard with filler.

  • I mean we've certainly seen all kinds of bad work out there

  • and I honestly never fault the patient who had it.

  • I fault the injector who did it to them,

  • because we should be a team and come up

  • with an aesthetic that works for both the patient

  • and the injector, because I have patients

  • who wanna go bigger, bigger, bigger,

  • and that is not my aesthetic and I won't do it to them.

  • Now they may trot right out of my office

  • and into someone else's, but that,

  • you know, they're kind of a billboard of my work

  • and I don't want them running around New York City

  • saying "Dendy Engelman did my lips."

  • So that was our last one, thanks for joining us.

  • I'm Dr. Dendy Engelman and this has been

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