-Thank you. -Congrats on this book.

You know, I love these books.

I read them to my daughters. I love them. They're great.

So I want to talk to you about this. Congrats on all these.

-Thank you.

-Since the last time you were on the show --

I was just talking to Keira Knightley,

who had a baby, as well.

But you had another baby, your third baby.

I'm so happy. Congratulations. -Thank you.

He's so, like, cute and squishy and smiley,

and he has no friends because we're in COVID quarantine.

I'm like, "Some day you're going to have baby friends.

Some day." -Some day, yeah. That's it.

-He doesn't know any different. He doesn't know any different.

-He does-- Nah, he won't know. He's still too tiny.

Absolutely.

Have you and your kids

been able to spend time with your grandparents

who happen to be Bill and Hillary Clinton?

-Especially this summer, we effectively, like, created

a quarantine pod with my parents,

which was amazing.

Just for the time that my kids got to spend with --

they call my parents Grandma and Pop-Pop --

with Grandma and Pop-Pop.

Gardening together.

Aidan is obsessed with numbers

and so was, like, super-excited to find out

that his Pop-Pop was, like, the 42nd president,

like, that there was, like, a number attached to him.

Just made my dad that much cooler in his eyes.

-Oh, yeah.

-So it just, like, was a magical time together.

-Do they still spoil your kids?

-Yes. -Good.

-But it was harder with us,

like, because, you know, the one weekend where they had --

like, when we just had Charlotte and Aidan --

It's the only time Mark and I have ever been away

for like two nights from our kids.

And we go to our friends' wedding, and we come back,

and our kids had had pizza for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

And they had ice cream after, like, lunch and dinner.

And I was looking at my mom. I was like, "Who are you?!"

-A New Yorker.

-...like once a week if I was really good.

And my kids are having pizza like three times a day.

And she was like, "I'm a grandmother."

-I love it. Exactly right.

I remember my mom giving my sister's kids

a pint of Ben & Jerry's each, or Haagen-Dazs, each.

A pint with a spoon.

And my sister was like, "What is wrong with you guys?"

-Yeah, I know. -Just a little --

I mean, they can have ice cream, but not -- That's insane!

-I mean, I wasn't even allowed to have sugar cereal as a kid.

Right? And so, like, what happened?

-When you're a grandparent, all the rules --

all the bets are off, man. -And there was no apology.

-Nothing. -Right? There was no --

-No. Nothing at all. No.

They go, "Bye. You take care.

They're all hyped up now. Here you go."

Before we talk about your new book, I want to get your --

I'd like to get your thoughts on the passing

of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

It was your father who nominated her to the Supreme Court.

-My father nominated her, and my mother first

brought Ruth Bader Ginsburg to my father's attention.

And so -- -Oh. I didn't know that.

-She was such a kind of, you know, important,

powerful part of our country's,

like, story and history.

You know, one of the things that I most admired about her, Jimmy,

was just her relentless commitment to, as she said,

always be expanding the definition of "we"

in "we the people."

Because when "we the people" was first articulated,

most of the people in the United States

at the time were actually not part of that pronoun.

And just her dedication as a lawyer and then a judge

and a justice to increase protections for people,

you know, regardless of sex, disability,

because she knew that would really create opportunities.

And I remember, you know,

when I was 13 and my dad nominated her

and my mom talking to me about how important she was.

I was inspired by that,

but admittedly I was also inspired

because she was a girl and that she was gonna be

the second woman on the Supreme Court

and that my dad was going to do that.

It made me really proud of both my parents at that age.

-Yeah. Did you question that?

Did you go, "Why is there only two women?"

-Yeah, I don't think -- I learned about

Sandra Day O'Connor in school, and I didn't realize

until my dad nominated Ruth Bader Ginsburg

that she would actually be the second.

Like, I just think I thought,

"Well, surely, there had been more than one."

And there hadn't been, and thankfully now

there have been more than two,

but we still have a long way to go to get to parity.

-Yeah, yeah, I believe so.

There are 42 days left until the presidential election.

What are your thoughts as we're getting closer to the election?

-Well, you know, Jimmy, we're speaking today

on such a ignominious day

where we cross 200,000 Americans who have died of COVID,

and I fundamentally believe

that most of the people who have died would not have died

had we had a more competent and compassionate,

empathetic leader at this moment

versus President Trump, who is none of those things.

And, you know, so, for me,

the next 42 days are just going to,

you know, really be about doing whatever I can as a citizen

to try to help persuade people to register to vote.

There's still time to do that in most states.

To ensure that there's a plan to vote,

whether it's to get an absentee ballot,

to vote early, to show up and vote on Election Day,

and just to ensure that people understand

that it is the most important election of our lifetime,

that everything is on the line.

Whether it's kind of basic, fundamental human rights,

voting rights, civil rights, the environment,

gun-violence prevention.

I know we often say, you know,

every issue you care about is on the ballot,

and maybe that hasn't always been persuasive to people,

but I would hope today, with so many thousands of Americans

who have lost their lives and many millions more

whose lives have been disrupted

and who are grieving lost loved ones,

that people realize elections have consequences

and everything is on the ballot,

and this election's going to have consequences

for anything you care about.

-What is the easiest way, and who are the groups

that we're kind of going for

when we say, "Go out there and vote"?

Are they young people? Are they old people? Are they --

-I hope it's everybody. You know?

I certainly think, just by definition,

young people have more at stake in this election,

because hopefully they're going to live

in the future for longer.

They're going to live with the consequences

of the election for longer.

But, Jimmy, we've talked a lot about,

over the years, like, being parents,

I would hope parents also feel like we have so much at stake

in this election because of the future that we want,

like, our kids and every kid to have.

And I think it's hard now.

There's so much misinformation and kind of meanness and pain,

and so I understand why some people might think,

"Ugh. It's just too much. I'm going to opt out."

But I hope instead people think,

"Oh, gosh. I want there to be better information.

I want there to be less pain.

I want there to be less suffering, you know."

We just got to persist, for the next, as you said, 42 days

to hopefully get to the other side

with certainly, as I hope,

not only Joe Biden and Kamala Harris being elected

but Democrats being elected up and down the ballot.

-Let's talk your new book, "She Persisted in Sports."

I love these books.

This is the third in the "She Persisted" series.

How did you land on doing on about the accomplishments

of women in sports?

-Well, I love sports.

I love -- I've always loved sports.

Loved, like, watching the Olympics as a kid.

It was the only time my parents let me watch

unlimited television, so I watched every sport.

And I loved playing sports as a kid.

And I just have always found

such, like, personal inspiration

from watching the achievements

and the persistence of women on the field,

on the court, on a mat, in a pool.

And those stories have meant so much to me in my life

that I wanted to share some of the ones

that had meant so much to me,

either because my grandmother would talk to me about

Wilma Rudolph and how inspirational she'd been

or because I remember watching Kristi Yamaguchi as a kid

and just being, like, in awe of her on the ice.

So I just am thankful that "She Persisted"

had really resonated with young readers

and that my editor wanted to continue this series.

I said, "Ah. We have to do sports next."

-Every story, you go --

I can't even imagine what it's like

to just come up and just be an Olympic superstar

and show the world that you can do it.

One of the best in here is Simone Biles,

an Olympic gymnast who is -- I mean, she's unbelievable.

-She's the greatest gymnast of all time.

-She actually is. She is the greatest of all time.

Have you ever met --

-She has, like, created moves that are now named after her.

-Have you ever met her? -I haven't met her.

I've spoken to her, but I haven't met her.

Charlotte, my 5-year-old, is obsessed with her.

She, like, has all her little leotards.

She, like, tumbles around.

She's like, "Just like Simone!" And I'm always like, "Maybe."

-[ Laughs ] Yeah. You never know. Yeah, sure.

-Simone Biles also started somewhere.

-That's true.

-And she started when she was 6,

so I'm like, "Charlotte, you still got a little time."

-[ Laughs ] -And, you know, I just --

Something else that means a lot to me

is how many of these -- Really, all of these women,

like, recognize themselves as role models

and really, you know, very much believe

in, like, bringing other women along with them

and inspiring other women,

and I just am so grateful for their work

and grateful to be able to tell their stories.

-You should be proud of this book. It's great.

I can't wait to read this book to my daughters.

Thank you again for coming on the show.

It's so good to see you.

Tell Mark congratulations, please.

-I will. Thank you. -Stay safe.

-Stay safe. -Chelsea Clinton, everybody.