Well Microsoft is kind of getting back into

好吧，微軟是一種回到

making smartphones.

使智能手機。

This is Surface Duo,

這是Surface Duo。

and it runs Android.

而且它運行的是安卓系統。

Not Windows or Windows Phone.

不是Windows或Windows Phone。

That's right.

是的

Microsoft is making a Surface phone with Android.

微軟正在用安卓系統製作一款Surface手機。

If that sounds surprising,

如果這聽起來令人驚訝。

it's because it really is.

這是因為它真的是。

But we'll get back into the Android side

不過我們再來看看安卓方面的情況

in a minute.

一會兒就好

Duo is part of two new futuristic

Duo是兩個新的未來主義的一部分

dual-screen devices that Microsoft announced today.

微軟今天公佈的雙屏設備。

And they're coming in Holiday 2020.

而他們將在2020年假日到來。

Surface Duo has two 5.6 inch displays

Surface Duo擁有兩塊5.6英寸顯示屏

that fold out into an 8.3 inch device overall.

的，整體摺疊成8.3英寸的設備。

And it's just 4.8 millimeters thin.

而它的厚度只有4.8毫米。

It folds like many two-in-one laptops

它可以像許多二合一筆記本電腦一樣摺疊。

thanks to a 360 degrees hinge.

由於360度鉸鏈。

And it's designed to get more done on the go.

而且它的設計是為了在旅途中完成更多的工作。

It looks tiny for this type of device,

對於這種類型的設備來說，它看起來很小。

and it felt kind of like a Galaxy Note

而且感覺有點像Galaxy Note

in my pocket.

在我的口袋裡。

Now, I wasn't allowed to play around

現在，我不被允許玩耍。

with the software on this device,

與本設備上的軟件。

but it looks and feels like a tiny pocket tablet

但它的外觀和感覺就像一個微小的口袋裡的平板電腦。

that's also a phone.

這也是一個電話。

The difference between this

這之間的區別

and any other Android phone,

和其他任何安卓手機。

except maybe the Galaxy Fold,

除了可能是銀河系折。

is visually obvious.

是視覺上的明顯。

But Microsoft thinks this is part of

但微軟認為，這是它的一部分

a new category of devices

新產品

that allow people to do a lot more

讓人們可以做更多的事情

with tablets and phones than they do today.

與平板電腦和手機相比，他們今天。

As part of this idea,

作為這個想法的一部分。

Microsoft also announced a Surface Neo device today.

微軟今天還公佈了一款Surface Neo設備。

Which has two larger 9 inch displays.

其中有兩個更大的9英寸顯示屏。

The Duo and the Neo

二重奏和新派

share a very similar design,

有著非常相似的設計。

but they don't share a common operating system.

但它們並不共享一個共同的作業系統。

Neo, the larger dual-screen device,

Neo，更大的雙屏設備。

runs Windows 10 X,

運行Windows 10 X。

and has all your familiar desktop and tablet apps.

並擁有所有你熟悉的桌面和平板電腦應用程序。

The reason this isn't running Windows Phone

這不是運行Windows Phone的原因

is because Microsoft gave up on that

是由於微軟放棄了這

operating system years ago,

年前的作業系統。

when it couldn't convince developers

當它無法說服開發者

to create apps for it's devices.

為它的設備創建應用程序。

Now we sat down with

現在我們坐在一起

Microsoft's Chief Product Officer,

微軟的首席產品官。

Panos Panay,

Panos Panay,

on the Vergecast this week,

在本週的Vergecast上。

to talk about why Microsoft chose Android this time

來談談微軟這次為什麼選擇安卓系統

for the Surface Duo.

為Surface Duo。

- [Panay] Well because,

- 嗯，因為

those are the apps you want.

這些都是你想要的應用程序。

I don't know how to answer it

我不知道該怎麼回答

differently for you.

對你來說是不同的。

Because there's hundreds of thousands of apps

因為有成千上萬的應用程序

and you want them.

而你想要他們。

Asati and I talked about it,

阿薩提和我談過這個問題。

it's about meeting our customers where they are.

它是關於滿足我們的客戶，他們在哪裡。

And I don't think the, you know,

我不認為，你知道的。

the mobile application platform's

移動應用平臺的

going anywhere any time soon,

哪兒也不去，很快。

you need the apps.

你需要的應用程序。

- So you'll get the apps you'd expect

- 所以，你會得到你所期望的應用程序。

from a phone inside the dual-screen device,

從手機內的雙屏設備。

but how is this different from any other

但這和其他的有什麼不同

smartphone?

智能手機？

I mean it obviously looks different.

我的意思是，它顯然看起來不同。

And the main idea is making use

而主要的想法是利用

of these two displays

這兩個顯示器的

in ways we're only starting to see

的方式，我們才開始看到

other Android phone makers explore.

其他安卓手機廠商探討。

You could run a game on one side,

你可以在一邊運行一個遊戲。

and a game pad on the other,

和另一個遊戲墊。

or multi-task by dragging and dropping content

或通過拖放內容進行多任務處理。

between apps.

應用之間。

Microsoft hasn't thought of everything you'd do

微軟並沒有考慮到你會做的所有事情

with the Surface Duo just yet,

與Surface Duo只是還。

but that's why it's announcing it now

但這也是為什麼它現在宣佈它的原因

so developers can fill in the gaps.

以便開發者能夠填補空白。

They're really aiming to introduce

他們的真正目的是為了引進

a new form factor here,

這裡有一個新的形式因素。

and a way for a device to adjust itself on the go,

以及設備在移動中自我調整的方式。

no matter the task.

不管是什麼任務。

We've seen foldable devices

我們已經看到了可摺疊設備

from Huawei and Samsung,

從華為和三星。

but the Duo has two separate displays

但Duo有兩個獨立的顯示屏

that are made of glass,

是由玻璃製成的。

rather than foldable plastic.

而不是可摺疊塑膠。

Which given the issues with Samsung's Galaxy Fold,

其中鑑於三星Galaxy Fold的問題。

that might be a good choice right now.

這可能是一個不錯的選擇，現在。

Microsoft has been working on this hardware

微軟一直在研究這個硬件

for three years,

3年。

and Panos Panay tells us that

而帕諾斯-帕奈告訴我們

this device won't change much

這個設備不會有太大變化

by the time it debuts late next year.

到明年年底亮相的時候。

The real key question will be whether

真正的關鍵問題是，是否

Android app developers

安卓應用開發商

create the apps and experiences that really

創建真正的應用程序和體驗

take advantage of this dual-screen device.

利用這款雙屏設備的優勢。

And whether consumers want this type of hardware

而消費者是否需要這種類型的硬件

in a phone form factor in the first place.

在手機外形設計上，首先。

That's why Microsoft also has its largest

這也是為什麼微軟還擁有其最大的

Surface Neo device running Windows.

運行Windows的Surface Neo設備。

And it really feels like the company

而且它真的感覺像公司

wants to offer a Surface

想要提供Surface

at every shape and size.

在各種形狀和尺寸。

Microsoft also seems to be implying

微軟似乎也在暗示

that the operating system really

運作系統真正

doesn't matter for Surface devices anymore.

對於Surface設備來說已經不重要了。

And it's willing to partner with Google and others

而且它願意與谷歌等合作

to offer what makes sense.

以提供有意義的東西。

So does that means that Android is the future

那麼這是否意味著安卓是未來的

for Microsoft?

為微軟？

- [Panay] (clears throat) No no no no no no.

- [帕奈]（清嗓子）不不不不不不。

You want to give customers what they want

你要給客戶他們想要的東西

in the form factor that they're using.

在他們使用的形式因素。

We've learned this, you know,

我們已經學會了這個，你知道的。

the right operating system on the wrong product

在錯誤的產品上安裝正確的作業系統

or the other way around, pick your words,

還是反過來，選你的詞。

but what's the right operating system

但什麼是正確的作業系統

for the form factor?

為形式因素？

And in this case,

而在這種情況下。

in mobile devices, Android's the obvious choice.

在移動設備中，Android是顯而易見的選擇。

But anything above that,

但凡超過這個數字的。

Windows is everything.

Windows就是一切。

Superior for me.

對我來說是高級的。

- So, will the Surface Duo and the Surface Neo

- 那麼，Surface Duo和Surface Neo是否會

combine in the future?

今後結合?

Will there be a smartphone that turns into a tablet,

會不會有智能手機變成平板電腦。

that then turns into a laptop,

然後變成了一臺筆記本電腦。

then you dock and turns into a real PC?

然後你對接，變成一個真正的PC？

We're years away from anything even

我們離任何事情都還有好幾年的時間

getting close to that.

越來越接近。

But it opens up the questions

但它打開了問題

about where this dual-screen

關於這塊雙屏的位置

and foldable hardware is going exactly.

和可摺疊的硬件是去究竟。

And they're really hard questions to answer

而且這些問題真的很難回答

right now.

現在。

Microsoft will now need to convince

微軟現在需要說服

app developers and consumers that these

應用開發者和消費者，這些

dual-screen devices are truly the new

雙屏設備才是真正的新

device category that we've all been waiting for.

設備類別，我們都在期待。

Wherever things end up,

無論事情的結局如何。

it looks like Microsoft want to be ready

它看起來像微軟要準備

at every point with Surface.

在每個點與Surface。

You want a phone that's a little bit

你想要的手機，是有點

more than a phone that has an extra display?

比手機多了一個顯示屏？

Surface Duo.

Surface Duo。

You want a tablet that transforms into a laptop?

你想要一臺可以變身為筆記本電腦的平板電腦？

Surface Neo or Surface Pro.

Surface Neo或Surface Pro。

Microsoft is covering every hardware base here,

微軟在這裡覆蓋了所有的硬件基礎。

and it's leaving it up to you

而這一切都取決於你

to decide what device you actually need.

來決定你真正需要的設備。

- [Panay] You know, I think like anything,

- 你知道，我的想法就像任何東西。

look at the product you think is

審視你認為的產品

most interesting to you and where you

你最感興趣的地方和你

think you can be more creative,

認為自己可以更有創意。

that's what I would push.

這就是我會推。

And I think this products gonna be there

我覺得這個產品會在那裡

next year.

明年。

Not in a hurry,

不著急。

you know, hang out.

你知道，掛出。

Take photos or do whatever it is you do

拍照或做任何你想做的事

on your phone today for a little bit longer

今天在你的手機上多呆一會兒

and then, see if we can convince you

然後，看我們能不能說服你。

that you can be more creative on this product.

你可以在這個產品上更有創意。

- It's been a crazy day of Surface devices

- 今天是Surface設備瘋狂的一天。

and there's a bunch of hands-on videos

還有很多實踐視頻。

you should check out on our YouTube channel.

你應該看看我們的YouTube頻道。

Be sure to also definitely check out the Vergecast,

也一定要一定要去看看Vergecast。

'cause it has the full interview with Panos Panay,

因為它有完整的採訪 與Panos Panay。

and you don't wanna miss it.

你不會想錯過的