Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles welcome to the overview of the total for i_b_t_ independent writing tests part three them if i don't part of her three part series will in reviewing the pros and cons activity will also discuss a testrake involving thinking about the logic of the response we give on these particular tasks we would then take a few minutes to put it all together that we've learned in these three videos give some final thoughts have been discuss her first homework assignment can the pros and cons activity teacher s again being able to think about different perspectives helps us in making stronger arguments for the opinions in choices we make if we can anticipate an argument against our choice then we can better prepare for it and that's right a better answer so think of this activity in a way as two sides of our brain arguing with each other to help us form a stronger clearer argument we also must consider the importance of logic and argument remember there are no right or wrong answers to these essays since they are mostly personal choice but we must make sure if our answer is logical so again when taking a test we need to think about well is the response i'm going to give going to be a logical response let's talk about looking at an essay topic in some countries teenagers have jobs while they are still stands do you think this is a good idea supports her opinion by using specific reasons in details now first off this particular essays one in which we have to give an opinion but notice it gives a defense essay largely because we have to think is it a good idea to do this or not we do have to defendant think about this of course before we even given opinion it probably is helpful to think a little bit more about well what kind of job would be logical for teenagers to have well here in the united states logical jobs that teenagers have would probably something involving say retail sales maybe selling clothes at the mall working at a movie theaters a ticket taker cashier at a fancy restaurant perhaps even helping their parents their parents on a business working in some sort of service industry may be mowing lawns or cutting the grass or other part-time jobs especially ones you do after school order and weekends now but would not be logical well for example most teenage jobs are paid very well so it would not be logical to say that teenagers can make a lot of money at the east jobs also it would not be logical to say that they'd be working full time positions the question more or less implies that these students are going to school they are teenagers after all also we don't think it's heated yours as being professionals yet they may be learning valuable skills towards becoming professional sometime in the future but most of these jobs are you know generally jobs that don't require some sort of degree from the university now why is this important part of the idea in giving our personal opinion is to demonstrate that we can some experience with this type of question because that's perhaps the only way we can show that we fully understand the topic i mean after all it's going to be difficult to believe your ideas if you've never actually done nothing before in your life so if you try to argue that's a good thing for teenagers to get a job do you really know what those requirements would be and think even deeper do you really know what the difficulties would be for teenagers if they weren't going to get the job think about it for a moment what would be logical in this case it would be difficult for teenagers because these workers potts' abilities could conflict with their homework so their grades might suffer if you try to argue that their grades wouldn't suffer at all or that they would have plenty of time to study that may not be the most logical response because oftentimes have since teenagers are working after school they may have to work for five hours and as we know there are only so many hours in the week and again oftentimes jobs especially on the weekends may take up lots of her hours as well of course another thing we have to think about his teenagers are sometimes working in areas that could be a little bit dangerous fast food for example could infer could involve perhaps burning yourself if you accidentally uh... misquote or over cook some particular item of course what would not be logical well for example he would not be logical to argue that one difficult there would be that they will get paid too much or that there would be absolutely no conflict between their life uh... their work responsibilities and their grades and of course it would be very difficult also argue that their grades with insufferable why his logic so important here we can have a better picture if we really think about all of these particular factors so if you are going to argue that their job would never interfere with their school work that would perhaps not be realistic and be a very difficult arguments make because honestly there are only so many hours available in the day and week so i think that all the ideas we've learned in our in these videos together polygonal so get another topic this particular topic is a defense essay learning about the past has no value for those of us living in the president do you agree or disagree you specific reasons and examples to support your answer the first thing we have to recognize is what are we agreeing to if we agree with the statement well if we agree we're saying the learning about the past has no value if we disagree does that mean i have he has complete value or is more value for us or perhaps is that some value most likely if we disagree the idea is we can disagree with the word no and this is an idea will talk about a little bit later in our series but for now let's make sure were clear if we agree with the statement we're going to see the learning about the past has no value and if we disagree we're going to say that has some value so first off let's think one of the reasons to agree with that statement one of the reasons to disagree with the statement what will be logical points to consider and what would be points that would not be so launch is learning from the past valuable or not let's start by looking at the logical arguments first off events hugely tend to echo themselves another words there are things about different as for the current history that share some similarities if not exactly the same ideas of course another logical thing to think about is where in the event takes place may also play a part culture for example can help of play a very significant role in how the the events peg shaped of course it would probably not be logical to say that events happen in exactly the same way over and over even though there may be overwhelming similarities clearly the people involved or the events uh... he even the technologies involved are not the same so we couldn't necessarily argue that events always happen the same way in and the exact same detail and of course it would also be very difficult to say that all cultures of the same as well that would not be logical even though we may have lots of common characteristics short rates it would not be a good idea to say that we are all the same everywhere now when it comes to the pro and con arguments remember that this particular essay is somewhat backwards when it comes to its organization if i agree with this statement but i'm saying that basically learning for the past has no value but if i'm speaking against the argument i do think that there is some value to study so while some of the pro arguments if we say that learning from the past has no value one of the reasons why i want to think about is that comparisons themselves are not perfect and often we misunderstand or unable to interpret the results of historical events because frankly most people are not experts so would be very difficult for us to be able to look at all of the details and thereby make our comparisons most likely flawed another issue to think about is that if we follow the pay ast it might prevent us from seeing new and perhaps more innovative solutions to our current situation some people may be to conservatives in their fridge and it might blind us to think about how we can solve this uh... particular problem or situation now of course we can't recognize that have been some repeat themselves but on they uh... kansai we can't think about the fact that they do provide some basic structure and they did give us an idea of where to begin when trying to solve a martyr problem many times it's very scary to try to solve a problem as we know something about the uh... what history can teach us and especially if the pass at a negative outcome we can try to work to remedy that situation using these new tools and technologies not available at the time so when you notice both sides do have very valid arguments the question of course is which one do you think would be easier for you to make so some final thoughts and our first set of serious when dealing with these uh... writing tasks in order to write the good response we must first understand with the topic is asking us anne and we'll refer to that is the type of essay or type of topic we have to be able to think deeply about the topic is well and today looking at the defense essay we usa strategy called looking at the pros and cons finally we had to think about what what is a logical ideological response and thinking about the reasons we give for that response we have to begin by thanking is this response logical does it make sense now it's time for you to do some homework at the bottom of this page you will see homework link please finish this activity before our next on my class thanks for watching this video xeon x wages
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