Then you've just thrown the whole curve off.

How tall are you exactly?

5.

11.5.

Really, Really depressed.

It's a big half.

Last half is a big half.

Congratulations on the book.

Coming out.

Who's running the asylum?

You have some.

Make some pretty interesting statements here.

You talk about in your prime How you think you would have maybe stacked up against Shaquille O Neal?

Or, you know, what do you think might What would have happened?

You versus Shaquille O'Neal today because people sometimes lump the two of you together because we're both terrible foul shooters.

But other than that, Shaquille and I is like, comparing Meet with Clark Gable.

In this case, I'm Clark Gable and he's on his way.

No, he thought you were gonna be self effacing for a second.

And then No, no, no, nothing like that.

No.

He plays a entirely different type of basketball game.

He uses his physicality.

He's a big, strong young man, and, uh, that works well in today's game.

If he was facing me and other guys of my time, Not so, not so good.

I mean, I'm a guy bench pressing around £600 when I was at my £600.

Yeah, right.

5.

10.

That's pretty good.

Work on it a little while.

I'll be in your league, my friend.

Right.

Right.

That's why you better be rather nice to meet here, you know?

Uh huh.

And I'm a little surprised because I know you want to talk about a subject that is dealing my heart.

Well, we got to talk about this.

You made a statement, and the statement's gonna follow you around for a while.

That you for a while that you slept with 20,000 women.

You made that statement Now on, Do you know, I got to say that Z kind of thing that you say and then people bring it up later.

20,000 women like you?

Exactly.

It's not just me.

Have you seen there's a clock in Times Square?

Take a look at this thing.

It's pretty incredible.

I didn't think that.

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

I'm curious.

Yeah, I'm curious.

I want to know about my family share.

That's the part I'm curious about.

Well, first of all, it was encounters, but you know, I thought maybe one.

The reason you invite me on the show was to give me an award from the Board of Education because whenever people see me now, they go 20,000 and let's see, he must have started.

We was like, 15.

He's now maybe 55.

So let's see 20 0, 365 20 0, you know, and then you're getting people thinking Not only that, I'm teaching them mathematics, which is really the whole the whole story here.

You understand?

I don't think that's gonna be a word problem for kids.

It Will Chamberlain is with 10 women on a train headed east.

That's right.

We owe when you get the Missouri.

All right, all right.

But but But on the serious side of that, though, you know, just so women don't think me of being with you, whatever the number was to make a statement about something, and it was not ever to sort of like, uh, be little ladies that I've known and make them just another number.

In fact, in my in my book, they were a number, really a great looking numbers.

They were saying, but what I was trying to say in my 21,000 right?

That's all I'm thinking as you're talking.

I'm not hearing anything.

Nothing wrong with short, short romance.

Keep fading out of the number.

$20,000.

Nothing wrong with short romance, believe me.

Short romance As long as its a happy thing.

Yeah, going on.

Right, believe me.

But the idea was to say that, you know, sexually rules the world on that.

You know, for men who think that having 1000 different women is really cool, Uh, I have found out, but you have to first find out having one woman 1000 different times.

What's really happened?

Oh, but how did you see?

Oh, you had sex without 20,000 times with each of the 20,000.

That's what I'm thinking now.

I'm really impressed.

Now takes stamina.

It takes stamina, takes stamina.

All right, let's talk about another number.

All right, let's talk about the number 100 points in one game, which I believe was versus the Knicks.

1962.

That's right.

Is that right?

A long, long time.

Was there a point?

Ah, 100 points in one game.

Was there a point where we're just the other team, like, left and made sandwiches on the bench.

I mean, well, I really wish it was actually, they were really very embarrassed about the whole thing.

Um, understand.

And so they were mad at me, you know?

And I was just out there trying to have fun.

Did you start to, like, 85 points?

Did you start to feel bad?

Absolutely.

And the people try and miss this 100 I did that.

I know I did.

Did that, then?

My mother scolded me when I got home.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

You know, It was it was not an easy night.

No, because a lot of friends on the Knicks Let's talk about Michael Jordan.

I'm curious.

Michael Jordan say we had a time machine here and we could send Michael Jordan back to the Civil War.

Know that student?

That's just my own fantasy.

You know what?

If we could send Michael Jordan back to playing basketball with you in your prime, All right.

How do you think he would do in those days?

Well, first of all, I'm glad you said with me, you know, and not not again.

me.

Uh, Michael Jordan is one of those rare specimens that could have played any particular time and is a gifted, uh, gifted athlete who was using those gifts in basketball.

Incredibly.

So hey, has been the layers on between, uh, something is not so good in making it great for all the rest.

I think that almost every man, the MBA should give him 10% off their chicks.

Now what would his playing style?

How would that have translated back?

Well, his playing style is he's 6 ft seven, and he's, uh, like 100 £97 coming into what we call our domain the pivot for us.

Big guys would have been very wise of Michael, you know, if he was playing during our time, eso we would say, Michael, you know, as long as you do all those fancy things outside of where we are, that's fine.

So it wouldn't it would have been good for Michael.

Really know You think he'd have been crushed?

Is what you're saying.

I don't think I know you've been crushed.

Really?

He just wouldn't have worked back then.

No, he would have came in.

There was 360 degree whip around.

Dunk.

What people thought of that at the time.

Well, you know what?

I'm glad you said that, because you see, the mentality of the fan today is wonderful, and they've learned to accept showbiz.

And Michael is the epitome of showbiz, along with the great talent.

During my time.

If you did a three 61st of all, uh, the opposition would take it as an insult that you would try to do something like that against them.

The coach on your own team, if you were at least 90,000 points ahead, would bench you and the fans will look at you like, Well, he's the biggest hot dog in the world.

Just saying Michael Jordan back then would have been on the bench the whole time.

Absolutely.

You know, being considered how to think about that.

And that's the That's the truth.

But now, in Chicago, if he doesn't give you when those 3 60 years talking about even though their team is 19 points ahead, right, they're looking for something spectacular.

Fans will turn your back Then it was more about teamwork.

Working together.

Absolutely.

What's happened to basketball were you a basketball player?

Who?

Me?

I used to like to play basketball, but I was had the height and everything.

I lacked what's called coordination.

It's true.

And I found out later that you need that I didn't wear.

I was one of those guys who is, like to me, to me, you know, I get it.

And I fell a lot.

I wept openly.

Sometimes during the game.

It was just a message that could be a problem.

Yeah, but still have given you a run for your money.

Okay.

All right.

Now, I we'll talk about a record.

So this this this blew me away.

But you, uh, your competitive guy on and you I didn't know this.

This translates into your personal life.

You like to drive cross country, and some people do have driven cross country a few times.

I enjoy it, but you like to do it really fast.

Is that absolutely?

How fast are we talking about here?

What we're talking about trying to average up in 100 thirties and go as high as 175 100 miles an hour, you know, and that's a nonstop drive from like this is in a Volkswagen bug.

That's the impressive.

Well, I did.

I did a commercial for Volkswagen with a little different engines.

But what are you talking about?

How can you go that fast and not be constantly pulled over?

What happens?

You have to be clever.

You have to use your clever and you're going 100 80 miles and everything's a blur.

You're just burns.

You're just piling up on your windshield.

Clever, clever, clever.

You Are you also you also you like Thio?

I e found kind of interesting.

But you you have a method for sort of like killing time When you see that your six miles out of Denver and you're on the road 150 miles an hour.

What do you do to try and kill?

I hold my breath and see if I could hold my breath all the way to Denver.

E give us eight or nine miles away, you know, and eso I worked, You know, I gotta work my way up when I start in New York.

I couldn't hold my breath about like, a minute about time.

I'm halfway across the country.

I could get up to almost 5, 5.5 minutes holding their breath.

So what I would love to see.

I would love to be the see the policeman who pulls you over going 125 miles an hour, pulls you over, walks up, looks into the windshield.

It's Wilt Chamberlain there he oh, and then passes out.

So that's just to amuse yourself.

It is.

And I sure wouldn't advise anyone to do it, because it's when the dumbest things that one could possibly Oh, thanks for adding that they don't like people out there.

Holding their breath is to the point of passing out while you're driving a car 125 miles an hour and you definitely compared pass out.

You also you like to water ski at great speeds?

Yeah, I tried for the quarter mile or water ski speed record 126 miles an hour and was, you know, you can't water ski 125 miles an hour.

Well, I can't and idea.

You gotta have big feet, man.

You understand?

You know it helps out.

You didn't use skis.

Well, no, I use I use skis.

In fact, I don't even have a 125 miles.

I would just love to see the old fisherman now sitting on the dock.

And I think that's exactly right.

I think that was Will Change Way used to ski on the Sacramento River in California.

And there was a highway right?

Right by the river.

And the cars would be going 70 miles an hour.

And we were just running past the cars, you know?

Then we would slow up and see their expressions on their face because they couldn't believe it either.

Okay, well, there's that and plenty more in the this book Who's running the asylum?

The insane world of sports today.

And it was great to meet you.

Finally.

Really nice to have you on the program.

Can you come back sometime?

I'll tell you something.

I enjoy your program.