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  • My next guest,

  • you know him if you're watching this channel,

  • he needs no introduction.

  • Please welcome Andy Richter.

  • Hi, Moses.

  • Thank you for having me.

  • We were taping, so I'm in the courtyard of Largo.

  • So you will hear some traffic noise.

  • I hear a lot of traffic.

  • It sounds very-

  • I feel like the man on the street.

  • The last time we talked

  • was when we were still doing the show for audiences,

  • and you were telling me that, on the old stages,

  • you had a place where you could just go and disappear.

  • Have you found a place there at the Largo,

  • where you could just completely disappear?

  • Well, this courtyard is nice.

  • (car engine rumbling)

  • It's noisy, but it's nice.

  • And I come out here when Conan is doing interviews,

  • the Zoom interviews, because I just don't want to make...

  • I'm certainly not going to listen to the interview because-

  • No, it's a speaker phone conversation.

  • Yeah, he talked to Colin Quinn today,

  • and I heard everything that guy had to say in 1995.

  • Enough with the Colin Quinn.

  • I'm just kidding. (laughing)

  • Do you know there's different races of people in New York

  • and they came over at different times?

  • No, I love him, but honestly,

  • no, I stay out of there just so I don't have to worry about

  • if I get up, or that the old seats in the theater will clank

  • or something.

  • 'Cause when I first started here with them,

  • I was in there for one of them,

  • and I just was like, "I'm too clumsy,

  • "I should be out here just so I don't interrupt."

  • But yeah, but also too, this place,

  • I've known this place for a million years.

  • I mean, and I've known everybody here for 20 plus years.

  • So I was always very comfortable in this place,

  • even before we started doing "The Conan Show" here.

  • Yeah, because for people who don't know,

  • this is the hub of essentially all comedy,

  • where you can really work out stuff

  • before it becomes a special,

  • people have taped their specials there.

  • So it is a cool spot.

  • So the place that you've found to disappear to

  • is the Central Courtyard?

  • (laughing) Yes, yes.

  • Although, you know what?

  • I mean, it's a different thing.

  • 'Cause I'm not here.

  • If I need to hide in the hour that I'm here,

  • I got real problems.

  • I shouldn't be on television if I'm that-

  • Right.

  • (laughing) If I'm, yeah.

  • If I need to hide that much.

  • Yeah, yeah.

  • But this is how you got roped into this show.

  • You were just too central.

  • You were outside, you were not smoking.

  • And they're like, "Hey, there's this kid

  • "that did stand up once."

  • They asked me, and then when I found out what time it was,

  • it was like, I just did it here.

  • Rather than, normally I would be at home,

  • in my sad, dark little box that I live in.

  • But here it's, like I said, I feel like a man on the street.

  • That is something I've noticed.

  • I think people, when they do the show for the first time

  • they're like, "Oh, I hope Conan likes me."

  • Immediately I was like, I hope Andy doesn't scowl at me.

  • 'Cause I think, and please tell me if I'm wrong,

  • I feel like you watch stand up

  • like comedians watch stand up.

  • Conan's very gracious and like,

  • "Let's keep the show on the rails,

  • "even if you're bombing."

  • But you, you feel like you know the mechanics of it,

  • of like, "Uh-huh, yeah, that happened, sure."

  • On "The Conan Show,"

  • and Conan has said this, and and God bless him.

  • He never wanted me to be any different,

  • but you know I will sort of laugh

  • as a conversational lubricant.

  • Yeah.

  • But most of the time,

  • I laugh when I think something's funny,

  • which I guess is unusual.

  • And I definitely felt when I went from New York to LA

  • and came out here and had to go through the sitcom process

  • of the table read and then the rehearsals and everything

  • where everyone laughs real hard at everything

  • over and over again.

  • Way too hard.

  • Yeah.

  • Yeah, and I just feel like you're crying wolf.

  • Like you're ultimately going to not be able

  • to tell the difference between

  • that's really funny and that's just okay.

  • And I would have other writers say things to me like,

  • "You're not a big laugher, are you?"

  • (laughing) And I say, "Well, yeah, actually,

  • "when things are funny."

  • When things are funny,

  • when you're not looking at a math equation.

  • Yeah, and I'm not trying to be a dick

  • I'm not trying to be a dick.

  • But I just think I'm trying to be honest

  • about that one part of it.

  • And because I always have felt that this kind of job,

  • doing a late night talk show like this,

  • you have to be yourself.

  • You can't, you're yourself when company's over,

  • but you gotta be yourself.

  • If you're going to be fake laughing, fake re-reacting,

  • it's going to suck.

  • You know?

  • And I just also just don't want to do that.

  • I think that's what I was nervous about

  • the second time I did the show.

  • 'Cause you guys are more front face-ting on stools there

  • is you can see,

  • and you know that you know all the mechanics,

  • you know the punchline before it's coming,

  • you know that you were not

  • on a bus in Australia this morning.

  • And also (laughing) to be fair to the stand-ups,

  • a lot of times, that's the end of our day pretty much.

  • And it's easy to zone out.

  • Yeah.

  • It sounds really shitty,

  • and it probably is kind of shitty, but I guess I'm shitty.

  • No, I think it takes some of the mystery out of it,

  • and I think it makes people less nervous to do the show,

  • to know that everyone's there doing a job.

  • Just do your thing.

  • Table reads that you brought up are something else,

  • where it is way too hot of an audience,

  • where it feels like they got bullied into laughing.

  • Yes.

  • Because it's like network people there,

  • so everyone's like, "Haha, that's the joke that I wrote.

  • "Everyone likes that."

  • Have you ever bombed a table read?

  • I have not, but I have been involved in table reads

  • where someone gets cocky and thinks,

  • "Oh, this is just a table read,

  • "so I don't need to perform at my top abilities here.

  • "I can save it," or something, I don't know.

  • Yeah.

  • And they get fired.

  • You can get fired at any time.

  • And so it's like every time

  • they want to hear you say a line,

  • you better say it the money way to say it.

  • Yes.

  • You better have all the coffee

  • or whatever drugs making you funny.

  • Do that because yeah,

  • because it's the second to last audition.

  • Yes.

  • And I always cringe

  • when actors will post the deadline article

  • in "The Hollywood Reporter" of like, "Booked it!"

  • And it's like, you are so close to getting...

  • You could be gone.

  • (laughing) Yes.

  • You could be gone tomorrow,

  • and everyone's going to be asking, "What happened to that?"

  • Right, right.

  • "I didn't see you on CW's "The Arrow.""

  • That's the same reason

  • that they recommend that you don't tell people

  • that you're going to have a baby

  • until the end of the first trimester.

  • Yes.

  • Because you might not be having a baby.

  • It's just because odds are-

  • Equally sad things, losing a human being and a pilot.

  • (laughing)

  • It's right up there together.

  • In my mind, it's the same.

  • There is a table read pressure on you now

  • because essentially every night on "The Conan Show,"

  • you are the only audience member.

  • Yeah.

  • Besides the crew, you're really the only one in the seats.

  • What is that like?

  • I mean, does it feel like you're Mark Ruffalo's character

  • in "Shutter Island,"

  • where you're just helping this man process that

  • you have a TV show,

  • (laughing)

  • Whatever trauma you can process.

  • I mean, no, honestly, this has just been so

  • from starting in quarantine

  • for months and months and months,

  • and then doing the show from home,

  • and it being completely strange,

  • and getting an email, and then shooting a bit myself,

  • getting my own props.

  • And I always did it immediately when I got the email

  • because I had nothing else to do.

  • Yeah.

  • And I'd do the bit and send it off,

  • and then I'd sit there and wait for the next email

  • where somebody thought of a bit for me to do.

  • So coming here was like, "Oh, God, I get out of the house."

  • Honestly, one of the best things about doing this

  • is that you're around funny people

  • and that you get to spend lots of time with funny people.

  • And in fact, in your personal life

  • you can spend all so much of your day with funny people

  • and then you go home and you're used up all your funny

  • and the people in your house are like,

  • "Hey, where's the funny guy?"

  • And you're like, "Oh, man, I'm tired of being funny.

  • (laughing) "Leave me alone."

  • Yeah, it is hard to talk to...

  • People that are not in comedy are the same way.

  • Yeah.

  • 'Cause I think people in comedy

  • say the meanest things to each other.

  • Absolutely.

  • The way that we get to be funny around here is mostly mean.

  • And I mean, it's the kind of mean

  • that comes from a group of people that are safe,

  • that feel safe with each other.

  • So you can really (laughing) you can be a jerk.

  • And it can be so much fun, and there's such funny stuff,

  • and it's all stuff

  • that could never be on television just because-

  • It is all cancelable material.

  • Yes, it's all either awful, awful, dark things

  • or it's about somebody that could sue.

  • I mean, it's just-

  • Yeah.

  • It's truly one of my favorite things

  • about doing this for a living.

  • And it's people that are paid to be funny.

  • They're funny. (laughing)

  • Yeah, which makes the roasting hurt extra hard.

  • Yeah.

  • They've trained at this, they've been rewarded for it.

  • Even from when you're a baby, comedy baby,

  • you are making fun of each other.

  • Yeah.

  • You are teasing each other.

  • I mean, at times it can be a bit much,

  • and it can be more of a young person's game

  • because you just get older and you're like,

  • "There's enough negativity in the world." (laughing)

  • You've also kept up with the podcasts.

  • You've had something to do in quarantine

  • that you're still able to do.

  • [Andy] Yeah, yeah.

  • I have a podcast.

  • What's that been like, focusing on that?

  • It's been nice and it definitely, in the early days,

  • was sometimes the only conversation

  • that I would have with another human being face-to-face,

  • even if it's virtually face-to-face.

  • I mean, I'm always talking to my kids

  • or texting with my kids,

  • but like I said, they were days where the podcast,

  • I'd record for two hours

  • just because I was happy to be talking to somebody.

  • And I do just talk to people

  • that I'm interested in talking to mostly.

  • So there's very little kind of drudgery kind of interviews.

  • It's usually fun.

  • It's somebody that I'm looking forward to talking to,

  • and I'm glad I had it to do.

  • Is it something you're looking forward to

  • in five years when this is all over?

  • Is it your life?

  • In five years? (laughing)

  • Oh, Moses, no.

  • Yeah, I mean, the way this is going, this is brutal.

  • This is all so freaking crazy and so unique

  • and so unlike anything

  • that we've ever been through before

  • that I can't even picture.

  • I think about what am I going to do

  • at the other side of this,

  • and I can't even picture it.

  • I've had deep existential moments of like, who am I?

  • And what do I do with my time?

  • And with my emotion and my actions.

  • Yeah, because other people,

  • the way they react to you and what you put out,

  • essentially inadvertently tells you who you are.

  • Yeah.

  • At least reinforces the ego or identity.

  • And it's very weird to not have that.

  • What do I do?

  • Yeah.

  • I thought I'd do more, I thought this would be different.

  • Yeah.

  • I mean, but it's like down to,

  • I guess I'll still work in show business,

  • but some days feels like, (laughing)

  • "Am I still going to work in show business?"

  • And quite frankly, with this show ending in June,

  • the TBS show ending in June,

  • and not really knowing what form the new show will take,

  • it's weird.

  • It's exciting in many ways to have that kind of

  • sort of change point and those kind of moments of change.

  • And I've been through them,

  • can be great and they're scary,

  • but they can be really fun and good.

  • But I don't have the notion of planning a vacation,

  • to make sure that you can get your reservations.

  • I'm not even bothering with anything like that.

  • Just because who knows?

  • Yeah.

  • I'm just sitting here waiting for it to end,

  • and then I'll see where my life goes.

  • That's what I've seen.

  • Especially with the Comic Con shows.

  • I didn't know how active you were

  • in each of the sketches and segments.

  • I'm like, no, let's just find it out for this.

  • I think that's a lot of people don't see that work.

  • Conan relies on me

  • because he trusts my taste and my judgment.

  • So a lot of the time I just get the, "Is that good?"

  • "Yeah," or, "No," or, like I said before,

  • "It needs a new ending," or

  • "It needs this joke," or "Cut that part."

  • You need somebody to turn to and go,

  • "Tell me I'm not wrong."

  • And if you do it right,

  • you'll get somebody who will tell you when you're wrong,

  • which is a truly beautiful thing about Conan O'Brien

  • is that he's willing to be wrong.

  • He's willing to be differed with.

  • I mean, to a certain extent.

  • I can't say much.

  • He may be here.

  • (laughing) He does scream at you after.

  • Yeah, you could be doing it long enough

  • and still collaborate with people

  • and still know that, Absolutely.

  • "Hey, yeah, I don't know the best the room."

  • Because I'll come up with stuff

  • that I think is hilarious,

  • and then I find out it's not.

  • Comedy is not a poem.

  • It's a democracy.

  • You'll find out that thing you thought

  • was really hilarious is not that great.

  • And you go, "Oh, okay."

  • Yes, hence the need for live audiences.

  • Yeah, yeah.

  • [Moses] To make the meritocracy work.

  • Yeah.

  • But this is always really great.

  • It's really helpful to always talk to you.

  • Oh, thank you.

  • Get your input on things.

  • It's a good perspective.

  • Thank you for having me.

  • Thank you for taking the time to do this.

  • We really appreciate it.

  • No problem.

  • And I'll see you around campus.

  • Yeah.

  • We'll be around.

  • We know where you are.

  • You're in the courtyard.

  • That's right.

  • Andy Richter, everyone.

  • All right, thank you, Moses.

  • Thank you so much.

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