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  • Sbrocco: As we all shelter in place,

  • the support I've seen you give each other

  • and our local eateries and businesses

  • shows how strong our community can be.

  • That's the spirit that made "Check, Please" possible

  • for the last 15 years.

  • We hope you enjoy our season premiere

  • recorded earlier this year.

  • Cheers!

  • Chorus: ♪ One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine

  • ♪ "Check, Please! Bay Area" ♪

  • Webber Jr.: My tomahawk steak was this big.

  • Covington: So good.

  • ♪♪

  • Thomas III: That's another "every time" dish.

  • Webber Jr.: I feel good about that.

  • Sbrocco: Boom.

  • Webber Jr.: I feel really good about that.

  • ♪♪

  • Sbrocco: Hi. I'm Leslie Sbrocco.

  • Welcome to "Check, Please! Bay Area,"

  • the show where regular Bay Area residents review

  • and talk about their favorite restaurants.

  • Now, we have three guests, and each one recommends

  • one of their favorite spots, and the other two

  • go check 'em out, to see what they think.

  • Chorus: ♪ And I am not throwing away my shot

  • Sbrocco: This week, "Check, Please! Bay Area"

  • journeys back to 1776 with three very special guests.

  • These revolutionaries are not throwing away

  • their shot to tell the stories

  • of their favorite San Francisco eateries.

  • Raise a glass to the four of us

  • with the stars of San Francisco's "Hamilton."

  • When it comes to classic burgers,

  • actor Donald Webber Jr. wants to be in the room

  • where it happens. Like Aaron Burr,

  • he's willing to wait for it...

  • Covington: ♪ Wait for it, wait for it, wait

  • Sbrocco: ...at his spot in the Marina.

  • And after a long day of putting in the work

  • playing one of the Schuyler sisters,

  • actor Rebecca Covington indulges in Japanese-American cuisine

  • with crave-worthy steaks in the Design District.

  • But first, there's a million things

  • actor Julius Thomas III hasn't done,

  • since he's busy playing Alexander Hamilton every night.

  • Yes, the man is nonstop. When he wants to relax,

  • it's at an elegant South-of-Market-spot

  • for modern North African cuisine,

  • named after its visionary Moroccan-born chef

  • and decorated with one Michelin star.

  • This is Mourad.

  • Man: One runner, please!

  • ♪♪

  • Lahlou: The vibe at Mourad is really fun.

  • It's a place where you want to be seen,

  • and you want to see other people.

  • The ground floor is very festive.

  • The ceilings are high. The chandeliers are big.

  • But upstairs is quieter. It's more intimate.

  • Hello. My name is Mourad. And welcome to Mourad.

  • So when I started cooking,

  • my goal was to preserve Moroccan food,

  • bring it back, cook the stuff that I grew up eating back home.

  • And then I started to question those things.

  • Why are we eating this way?

  • Why are we making couscous this way?

  • I realized that a lot of these things could change.

  • And I had to think outside of the box to take Moroccan foods

  • from traditional foods, traditional cooking,

  • to experimental.

  • And then we took it to the next level, and then it evolved.

  • And now it's the food that I like to eat.

  • You know, I've been here for a long time

  • in San Francisco.

  • And I lived through a lot of phases of this city's life.

  • So, yeah, I try to be genuine.

  • I try to follow my my instinct

  • and hopefully end up in a place that is good.

  • Sbrocco: Alright. First, I just have to say

  • I'm not a fan girl of anything.

  • But "Hamilton," I absolutely am in love with it.

  • I've gone twice, and it's been

  • the best theatrical experience of my life.

  • So kudos to all of you for your participation

  • in this amazing, amazing piece of work.

  • So, how long have you lived in San Francisco, Julius?

  • Thomas III: I've been here for about a year,

  • and it's been fantastic.

  • Sbrocco: Right. And, Julius, how did you find Mourad?

  • Thomas III: Actually, funny story.

  • My agents sent me a gift card

  • to just say "Here -- Congratulations

  • for booking 'Hamilton.' Here's a lovely restaurant

  • that we've heard a lot about. Go."

  • Sbrocco: And so your first experience was --

  • Thomas III: It was wonderful,

  • and it made me want to go back again and again and again.

  • And I have. [ Laughter ]

  • Sbrocco: And what do you usually start with?

  • Thomas III: Oh, every time -- This is an "every time" dish.

  • I have to have the Basteeya. It is delicious.

  • Just phyllo dough that wraps around duck and almond.

  • The phyllo sort of melts in your mouth.

  • The duck is sweet and savory. And then the almond gives it

  • that nice crunch for different texture.

  • They top it off with crème fraîche and some quince paste.

  • And I'm just in heaven.

  • Sbrocco: And that's really one of their signature dishes.

  • Thomas III: It's delicious. You have to have it.

  • Sbrocco: Did you have that when you went?

  • Webber Jr.: No, I went, and I got the oysters.

  • I wish I knew. I wish I'd known about that.

  • The oysters were fantastic.

  • And, you know, I went alone, and I was sitting at the bar,

  • and, you know, you kind of just take in this whole space

  • and the way that they have it lit, it's so wonderful.

  • So you feel like you're not just having oysters.

  • You're having, like, oysters.

  • You know what I mean?

  • Sbrocco: They were very "slurppable."

  • Webber Jr.: Yes, very --

  • Sbrocco: What did you have with them?

  • This place is known for drinks.

  • Webber Jr.: So, I splurged a little bit.

  • I had a WhistlePig.

  • It's a 15-year WhistlePig.

  • You know, and I had it neat, you know,

  • because I felt like this place deserved it, you know?

  • Thomas III: Like a sipping whiskey?

  • Webber Jr.: Yes. I mean, it's so good.

  • Sbrocco: Rebecca, what was your experience?

  • Covington: I loved it. I didn't have an appetizer, though.

  • I just had an entree and a side. Sbrocco: Okay.

  • Covington: Are we on entrees yet?

  • Sbrocco: Sure! Go ahead. You start.

  • Covington: Shocker -- I had the beef.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • Sbrocco: Now, I have to say, we're going to do

  • some restaurants that are beef-driven, right?

  • No vegetarian. Sorry, guys out there.

  • There's not a vegetarian. Thomas III: Not at this table.

  • Sbrocco: You started out --

  • Covington: It was their braised short rib.

  • Thomas III: Oh, my God.

  • Covington: And I got a side of cannellini beans.

  • Thomas III: Mm-mmm.

  • Covington: Heavens!

  • I have -- They were, like, cannellini beans

  • with bread crumbs and a feta cheese foam.

  • -Webber Jr.: Wow. -Thomas III: Yeah.

  • Covington: I want to know how to make foam these days.

  • Like, that -- It was delicious.

  • And I had a strawberry cocktail.

  • It was like Fruity Pebbles punch.

  • It was pretty dangerous for a lunch,

  • but it was really good.

  • Thomas III: Those beans are another one of my --

  • I will get them every time you go.

  • Covington: Those. Beans.

  • Thomas III: The feta cheese --

  • I think they called it, like, a feta mousse.

  • And then there's, like, a tomato ragu on it.

  • It crunches. The beans are tender and cooked perfectly.

  • It's so, so tasty.

  • Webber Jr.: The beans were also part of the dish that I had,

  • which was the braised beef.

  • But I'll tell you what, this black garlic

  • that they kind of put around the outside --

  • It's almost like a bowl-plate combination.

  • You know, you take a little bit of the braised beef,

  • and it just falls off of itself

  • and it actually melted in my mouth.

  • And I just thought to myself, I was like,

  • "Well, I'll be back." [ Laughter ]

  • Sbrocco: Just for that dish. What about you, Julius?

  • Thomas III: Yeah, this was my first time

  • with Moroccan cuisine.

  • I did have the braised beef one of the times that I've been.

  • But this time, I decided on the lamb.

  • And it comes two ways.

  • There's sort of a traditional cut

  • where it is medium-rare

  • and really delicious and tender and seasoned very well.

  • And then there's also a portion

  • that eats like the braised short ribs.

  • What I loved about that dish, though,

  • is that it was a piece of art,

  • because there were so many different things on the plate,

  • like pomegranate seeds and puree of root vegetables

  • that sort of felt like comfort and fall. It was so good.

  • Sbrocco: And they have an absolutely stupendous wine list.

  • Covington: Yeah, I saw this glass case

  • filled with wine. It was gorgeous.

  • Webber Jr.: I do wish I had looked at that wine menu

  • now that I know more about it.

  • But I did go into dessert land.

  • Sbrocco: Well, if you don't know, now you know.

  • Thomas III: Now you know.

  • Covington: Oh, I went into dessert land, too.

  • Webber Jr.: I went into dessert land.

  • So, I had what they call donut puffs.

  • And, so, it comes with a caramel sauce

  • and also, like, a chocolate sauce.

  • Thomas III: And an orange. Webber Jr.: And an orange sauce.

  • Covington: It's like a honey orange.

  • Webber Jr.: Yes! That's what it was that was in there.

  • Covington: I had them, as well.

  • Sbrocco: You had the donuts, too?

  • Covington: Yes, 100%. Yes.

  • Thomas III: I've had the donuts before, and they are fantastic.

  • But this time, this most recent time,

  • I tried the honey and almond dessert.

  • and it shows up in front of you

  • as sort of this, like, mound of white fluff.

  • And it's very vaguely described on the menu.

  • So my first bite into it,

  • I discovered that it was like an ice cream,

  • and it immediately melted in my mouth.

  • Each bite, you're going, "What is this?

  • Oh, my goodness. What is that?"

  • Because there's orange blossom and sort of a vanilla granita.

  • And it just keeps you guessing all the way to the end

  • when you're like, "Oh, what was that? It's gone."

  • [ Laughter ]

  • Sbrocco: Well, and this is not

  • an inexpensive place to dine, is it?

  • Thomas III: And I am the miser of the group

  • who thought it is pricy, but absolutely worth it.

  • It's a splurge.

  • Sbrocco: Well, this is your spot, Julius.

  • Wrap it up for us. Thomas III: Delicious food.

  • Well worth the price. Go, go, go.

  • Sbrocco: Okay. And Rebecca.

  • Covington: Delicious food, great cocktails. I'll be back.

  • Sbrocco: And Donald.

  • Webber Jr.: Don't be afraid to sit at the bar.

  • It's wonderful. Get the braised beef.

  • Sbrocco: Alright. If you would like to try Mourad,

  • it's located on New Montgomery at Minna Street

  • in San Francisco.

  • It's open for dinner every night with lunch on weekdays.

  • And the average dinner tab per person

  • without drinks is around $70.

  • ♪♪

  • ♪♪

  • Burr: ♪ Whoo! There's nothing like summer in the city

  • Someone in a rush next to someone lookin' pretty

  • ♪♪

  • Sbrocco: On any given night, you might find Rebecca

  • playing Angelica or Eliza, the Schuyler sisters. And Peggy.

  • Her upscale retreat in the Design District

  • offers expertly butchered steaks

  • with a sophisticated Japanese twist.

  • This is Niku Steakhouse.

  • ♪♪

  • Falcon: The vision that we have for a guest coming into Niku

  • for the first time is to not think of it

  • as a traditional steakhouse.

  • ♪♪

  • We wanted to design it

  • where it was an interactive cooking experience.

  • My name is Dustin Falcon, and I'm the executive chef

  • of Niku Steakhouse here in the Design District.

  • Niku started between Kash Feng and Guy Crims, our two owners.

  • Kash really wanted to bring Japanese beef

  • and a Japanese steakhouse style to the U.S.

  • And Guy Crims is a master butcher

  • and had all these different connections.

  • So, Japanese A5 beef.

  • There's different grades, A4, A5.

  • We only use A5,

  • and it's a mixture of the yield of the meat

  • and the marbling, as well.

  • So it has to be over a peak marbling score of 5 and up.

  • And most of our A5 that we use is all 10 to 12.

  • The marbling on it is ultra, ultra fine.

  • So, we are centered around beef,

  • but the rest of the menu is not an afterthought at all.

  • That's where we really get to be creative and play around.

  • We use ingredients

  • that are really true to Northern California.

  • Since our beef is all the way from Japan,

  • we want to mix in something definitely local

  • to where you get those unique flavors

  • that you can't get anywhere else.

  • So we really try to build a different experience.

  • And we want guests to come and talk to us,

  • ask us any questions that you have, and really get involved

  • and kind of see where your food is coming from.

  • Sbrocco: Okay, now, this is a question --

  • -Nobody else has to know. -Covington: Okay.

  • Sbrocco: Do you enjoy playing Angelica

  • or Eliza and Peggy?

  • Covington: My answer to that usually

  • is I enjoy what I'm playing for the night.

  • 'Cause they're all so much fun,

  • that whenever I just take a dive, I'm like,

  • "Oh, I love this."

  • And then it's like, I dive into another one.

  • I'm like, "I love this one, too!"

  • Sbrocco: And that's hard to have to know all those roles

  • and play all those roles.

  • Thomas III: She's brilliant at all three.

  • Sbrocco: She is? I would imagine so.

  • So, in terms of steak, you mentioned that you love meat

  • and beef on that last restaurant.

  • So now this is your restaurant, the steakhouse.

  • Covington: This is one of the best steakhouses

  • that I've ever experienced in my life.

  • I really felt an elevated experience

  • when I walked in the door. It didn't feel stuffy, though.

  • I did feel very purposeful, very modern.

  • It was just everything I wanted.

  • Sbrocco: What did you have, Julius?

  • Thomas III: We pulled up to the bar,

  • and we had the bloom cocktail.

  • And it was delicious.

  • And I wouldn't normally go for it

  • because it has, like, aloe and mole spices

  • and things that you wouldn't think

  • would normally go into a drink. It's delicate

  • and just really interesting to your palate, as well.

  • Webber Jr.: Yeah, I had something called the --

  • I'm so sorry to interrupt you.

  • I had something called the 36th Chamber --

  • Sbrocco: Interrupt him. [ All speaking indistinctly ]

  • Webber Jr.: I had the 36th Chamber cocktail.

  • Sbrocco: I want to see a little Aaron Burr in here

  • and Alexander Hamilton. Come on. No dueling pistols.

  • Webber Jr.: Well, what's really fun about that

  • is that we're actually really good friends.

  • And, you know, at the end, everybody's, like, in tears.

  • "How could you?" And I'm like, "Well, I mean, it's easy,

  • 'cause we just probably hug after we're done."

  • "Where you going for dinner?" "I'm going to Niku."

  • Sbrocco: And did you have anything to drink?

  • Webber Jr.: Yes, I had a cocktail.

  • It was called the 36th Chamber.

  • It's kind of a whiskey-forward drink,

  • but it's also got, like, a Japanese influence to it

  • where it's like a little sweet as sake kind of is.

  • You know, it's orange with this big, old piece of ice

  • in the middle of it.

  • Oh, man, that -- It was so good.

  • Sbrocco: And what did you have?

  • Covington: I had a cocktail called the Uncharted Waters.

  • And it's their white cocktail.

  • I liken it to a whiskey sour.

  • And it's topped with black sesame seeds.

  • It's a little tart. The egg white I love.

  • I know that it's a divider among people, but I really enjoy it.

  • [ Laughter ] Sbrocco: Not for me?

  • Thomas III: Maybe not be having no egg white in my drink.

  • Sbrocco: And what do you get when you go?

  • Covington: Okay. There's a couple different things.

  • If you're looking for like a celebration, maybe something

  • that you'll do once and probably never do again

  • once you get the tab, I did the A5

  • Wagyu tasting flight. Sbrocco: The sampler platter.

  • Covington: Because I'd never had it.

  • Sbrocco: And there are different breeds of the Wagyu beef.

  • Covington: And you only get, I think it's 4 ounces each

  • because it's so rich and so heavy.

  • But they melt in your mouth,

  • and it's literally like nothing I've ever tasted.

  • But you can also do their happy hour

  • at the bar and get a burger.

  • Sbrocco: See? There we go.

  • Covington: Yeah! So, yeah, I definitely enjoy the burger.

  • They do the burger of the month.

  • And when I went, it was just, like, a Wagyu beef burger.

  • It was juicy. Sbrocco: What did you have?

  • Thomas III: I tried the bone marrow

  • and oxtail for the first time.

  • I've never had bone marrow. Covington: Heavens.

  • Thomas III: And it shows up in a bone, and it's really cool,

  • that you get to scoop it out with a crostini.

  • Now, the crostini is basted in sort of its own fat,

  • and bone marrow itself

  • is sort of fatty and buttery and rich.

  • And I thought together they sort of overpower each other.

  • So we ended up just eating them sort of by themselves.

  • They all got finished. [ Laughter ]

  • But just sort of, we made two dishes out of it.

  • Sbrocco: What did you have, Donald?

  • Webber Jr.: I didn't have any appetizers.

  • I went straight for the A5 tomahawk steak.

  • Covington: Yes.

  • Webber Jr.: And, yeah, it was huge.

  • My tomahawk steak was this big.

  • Sbrocco: He had a side of beef. And then --

  • Webber Jr.: I had a side of beef,

  • and I did not want for anything after that

  • for probably the next five days.

  • I was full to the 10th degree.

  • And, so, the beef was, first of all, incredible.

  • The steak was incredible.

  • But I also had what they called their Parker House rolls.

  • Covington: Oh, my gosh. I had those.

  • Thomas III: They were out of them when I went.

  • Webber Jr.: Oh, no!

  • Thomas III: I wanted to try them.

  • Webber Jr.: So, I asked very nicely

  • if I could take a set of rolls home.

  • Sbrocco: That's why they were out. See?

  • Webber Jr.: Maybe that's why they were out.

  • Thomas III: You got my order.

  • Webber Jr.: And you do have to pay for the rolls.

  • But it is worth it.

  • The butter, the way it melts on there.

  • The bread, like, it just pulls off.

  • You don't even need a knife. Oh.

  • Thomas III: I'm so sad I didn't get them.

  • Sbrocco: I know. Well, you have to go back.

  • Webber Jr.: And it's the perfect complement for that steak, too,

  • you know?

  • Sbrocco: And what else did you have?

  • Thomas III: I had the -- I think it's Lassen trout

  • is how you say it. Sbrocco: Absolutely.

  • Thomas III: And it's a generous portion of fish.

  • I think it just needed a touch bit more of salt,

  • but it was delicious. Served crispy skin up.

  • And there are these potatoes

  • that come with a pho-spiced ranch.

  • They were crispy on the outside,

  • really tender and hot on the inside,

  • just like I like my French fries.

  • And you dip it in the pho-ranch.

  • And I'm not usually a ranch guy,

  • but this house-made ranch was delicious.

  • So that's another "every time" dish.

  • Sbrocco: So you don't have to get steak.

  • -There are options if you go. -Thomas III: Oh, yeah, yeah.

  • -Sbrocco: There's fish. -Covington: I am judging you

  • -on getting fish at Niku. -Thomas III: I also had steak.

  • Don't worry. That was my plate.

  • My dining partner got some beef, and we just --

  • Sbrocco: Next time she plays Eliza, I'm just saying,

  • there might be a little bit of dissension among the ranks.

  • So, did it live up to your expectations for the money?

  • Thomas III: Oh, yes. The food was delicious.

  • We cleared every plate that we could.

  • But she is pricy.

  • -Covington: She is pricy. -Sbrocco: Yeah.

  • Covington: She is. Yes. It's a celebration night.

  • It is a treat yo'self affair, if you will.

  • Thomas III: Absolutely. This is a great, like, date spot.

  • You never run out of things to talk about in this restaurant.

  • Sbrocco: Alright, Rebecca. Your spot. Give us a quick summary.

  • Covington: Dining room or bar, you can't go wrong.

  • It's an expensive night, but there's lots to choose from.

  • Sbrocco: Alright. And Donald.

  • Webber Jr.: Get something that has an A5 in front of it.

  • You won't regret it, and get those rolls.

  • Sbrocco: Alright, and Julius?

  • Thomas III: Great date spot, and you will not be bored at all.

  • Sbrocco: If you would like to try Niku Steakhouse,

  • it's located on Division Street at Rhode Island

  • in San Francisco.

  • It's open for dinner every night.

  • And the average dinner tab per person without drinks

  • is around $90.

  • ♪♪

  • His character Aaron Burr may hold his cards close,

  • but Donald knows the world is wide enough

  • for everyone to enjoy his bistro in the Marina.

  • For perfect American cheeseburgers

  • and a laid-back atmosphere, this is Causwells.

  • ♪♪

  • Rosenblum: So, the ambiance of Causwells,

  • we designed it art deco.

  • We've always just tried to be comfortable and approachable.

  • My name is Adam Rosenblum.

  • I am the executive chef and owner of Causwells

  • on Chestnut Street in San Francisco.

  • Causwells was never opened as a burger restaurant.

  • The burger was actually the last menu item to hit our menu.

  • And somehow, it just took off, and it's been going ever since.

  • Man #2: Is that good, buddy?

  • Rosenblum: In my opinion, a good burger

  • is all about the meat and the bun.

  • Those are the things you can't really hide.

  • So like any good sandwich, the quality of the meat

  • is where it's at.

  • Our signature burger is two 4-ounce patties,

  • 5 Dot Ranch meat.

  • We grind it in-house daily. A sesame seed bun, lettuce,

  • onion, lacto-fermented pickle.

  • We make everything in-house.

  • We have a really nice octopus dish.

  • We have several different sandwiches, from crispy chicken

  • to a vegetarian falafel burger.

  • So we're not just burgers.

  • We've always just tried

  • to be a local neighborhood restaurant in the Marina...

  • Girls: Go!

  • Rosenblum: ...and really embrace the local people

  • and be that place that people can come

  • a couple times a week, not just for special occasions.

  • Sbrocco: So, Donald, we've been kind of high-end here,

  • really high-end with the two previous restaurants.

  • Webber Jr.: Wonderful restaurants.

  • Sbrocco: And now we're going more casual.

  • Webber Jr.: Let's go. Let's go there.

  • Sbrocco: When do you go eat at Causwells?

  • Webber Jr.: Well, I'll tell you what. So, one night,

  • I was extremely hungry after a show.

  • I looked on Uber Eats, and I saw this place.

  • It was rated high on Uber Eats, and I wanted a burger.

  • So I got it delivered and took one bite out of this burger.

  • And I was like, "Wait. No way." [ Laughter ]

  • And I took another bite, and I was like,

  • "It's the best burger I've ever had."

  • Sbrocco: And that's huge to say that,

  • especially when it's been delivered.

  • Webber Jr.: Leslie, I've had burgers my entire life.

  • Sbrocco: Me, too.

  • Webber Jr.: I feel as though I am the Burger King.

  • And they also have, like, the special sauce on there, right?

  • So, you know, I mean, no burger's complete

  • without a special sauce.

  • And their Causwells special sauce, whatever it is,

  • it just -- It is perfect.

  • So, after my first Uber Eats experience,

  • I thought to myself, I was like, "Well, I must go to the place."

  • I was like, "Maybe this was just a fluke, you know?

  • I got to go, and I got to go see it for myself."

  • I walked in, and you see the guys back there,

  • you know, and they're making the burgers.

  • You just feel like you're at, you know,

  • maybe just, like, a burger joint, you know?

  • -But it's it's a little -- -Sbrocco: It's more elevated.

  • Webber Jr.: It's a little more elevated.

  • You're definitely going to a place

  • where you can have wine and you can have, you know,

  • beer that is on tap and all that.

  • I chose to go with this Boylan's root beer,

  • which is right out of a bottle.

  • And I had fries along with my burger.

  • But I got to tell you, the highlight is this burger.

  • Sbrocco: Everything pales to the burger. Alright.

  • Covington: So, I have been twice.

  • I am not a big fan of American cheese,

  • so I had the Americana burger both times,

  • but I switched out the cheese, which was delicious.

  • The first time I got my burger with onion strings.

  • I didn't enjoy them so much.

  • More breading than onion for me.

  • But the second time, I got my burger with fries,

  • and I thought it was delicious.

  • But the star of my meal

  • was their corn bread.

  • All: Oh!

  • Sbrocco: Not the burger. The corn bread.

  • Covington: Oh, it came out warm, and that butter melted on it.

  • I was trying to, like, cut it real small

  • so I could continue to eat the corn bread.

  • Webber Jr.: Can't wait to try that.

  • Covington: It was so good. It was so good.

  • Sbrocco: Now, I'm just waiting for Julius to jump in here,

  • 'cause we can't get a word in edgewise

  • with their love affair with this place.

  • Thomas III: So, we're about to have a dissent,

  • the kind of dissent that our great country was founded on.

  • Covington: Okay, okay. Okay, okay.

  • Sbrocco: Now it's getting good.

  • Thomas III: It's getting good,

  • because I also went to Causwells, of course.

  • And I got the OG Mosto burger,

  • I believe is what it's called --

  • Oaxacan cheese and poblano peppers

  • and, you know, lots of things

  • that I thought were going to be really delicious,

  • -and I was underwhelmed. -Covington: Underwhelmed.

  • Thomas III: Now, I did love the onion strings.

  • I thought that was the second best thing I had at the place.

  • -Covington: Really? -Thomas III: Yeah. But the star

  • for me of the day was the pork chop.

  • The pork chop. It was perfectly cooked.

  • Beautiful grill mark lines on it.

  • Seasoned really well.

  • Served with an interesting sort of spaetzle and beet slaw

  • that sort of bled into each other.

  • It didn't make for a very pretty plate,

  • but I really loved the pork chop.

  • The burger, uh...

  • Sbrocco: You got to go with the straight burger.

  • Covington: Their Americana burger

  • I think is what they're known for.

  • Sbrocco: Don't get all fancy.

  • You can't get all fancy with the --

  • Covington: Yeah, you got to keep it plain.

  • Thomas III: I also tried the mac and cheese,

  • which, you know, mac and cheese for African-American folks

  • is like a staple of every holiday.

  • It's something that we take very seriously.

  • And normally, I don't go to a restaurant

  • and try macaroni and cheese.

  • I did at Causwells, and I really enjoyed it.

  • So that is a plus.

  • -I will give that to them. -Covington: That's high praise.

  • Sbrocco: Did you have anything to drink with that, you guys?

  • Covington: I think I had a Cab Franc.

  • Sbrocco: It's a two-sided menu, right?

  • You got one side that's menu options, one side is drinks.

  • Covington: And the red wine was completely fine with my meal.

  • -Yeah. -Thomas III: It's interesting.

  • I did have the deviled eggs.

  • I also had tomato soup and then pork --

  • I had lots of things. It was --

  • I don't know. I call this, like, fusion confusion,

  • 'cause there were just so many things happening on the menu.

  • And then I went back, and I looked

  • after we had finished our meal, and I saw that

  • the chef had taken inspirations from,

  • I want to say, four or five different types of cuisines.

  • And I just thought that it was a little unfocused for me.

  • I just wanted a little more focus.

  • Sbrocco: It's like a local burger joint.

  • Webber Jr.: Yeah. You got to go back,

  • and you got to get the Americana Burger.

  • Thomas III: Well, I want to go back for brunch,

  • because I read the brunch menu,

  • and it seems a lot more focused

  • and a lot more of the speed of what I was going to want.

  • So I'm going to go back, and I'm gonna try the brunch.

  • -Sbrocco: Try the brunch? Yeah. -Thomas III: Yeah.

  • Webber Jr.: I really could not find any fault in this place.

  • Sbrocco: You go for a burger and a beer, man.

  • Covington: Yeah, every time I've gone,

  • I've gotten the burger, which is great.

  • It's just, for me, a big portion.

  • I took home half the burger. But it's delicious.

  • I also took home an additional side of corn bread.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • Sbrocco: Alright. Your spot. Give us a quick summary, Donald.

  • Webber Jr.: San Francisco, if you get a chance to go

  • and have a burger -- "Burrger."

  • Go get an Americana burger.

  • It's honestly the best burger I've ever had in my life.

  • Sbrocco: Alright. And Rebecca.

  • Covington: Go with an appetite. The burger won't disappoint.

  • But please also get the corn bread.

  • Sbrocco: And Julius.

  • Thomas III: I'm going to go back and try the burger.

  • Sbrocco: Alright. If you would like to try Causwells,

  • it's located on Chestnut Street and Divisadero in San Francisco.

  • It's open for lunch and dinner every day

  • with brunch on the weekends.

  • And the average dinner tab per person without drinks

  • is around $35.

  • And that wraps up our "Hamilton" show!

  • I have to thank my incredible guests --

  • Julius Thomas, who told us the story

  • of a night with elegant Moroccan fare at Mourad --

  • Rebecca Covington, who will always be satisfied

  • with the premium meats artfully prepared at Niku Steakhouse --

  • and Donald Webber Jr., who brought us into the room

  • where delicious burgers happen in the Marina at Causwells.

  • Join us next time

  • when three more guests will recommend their favorite spots

  • right here on "Check Please! Bay Area."

  • I'm Leslie Sbrocco, and I'll see you then!

  • Raise a glass!

  • All: ♪ To the four of us

  • Webber Jr.: The four of us.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • ♪♪

  • Sbrocco: We really want to hear about your experiences

  • at any of the restaurants we've been talking about.

  • So keep in touch with us on Facebook

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  • And don't forget that you can watch any of the shows

  • on our website at kqed.org/checkplease.

  • It's where you'll find links to the restaurant

  • and my notes on the wines we're drinking today. Cheers.

  • ♪♪

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Sbrocco: As we all shelter in place,

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