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With Meditation Life Will Be a Sheer Joy

靜心讓生命充滿喜悅

Excerpts from an interview with Ted Viramont,

節錄自泰德‧佛瑞蒙特的訪談

Madras Pioneer, Madras, Oregon

馬德拉斯先鋒報，馬德拉斯，奧瑞岡

Do you believe in fighting injustice?

你相信與不公道的抗爭嗎？

I don't believe in anything.

我不相信任何事情

You don't believe in anything?

你不相信任何事？

Do you think that one should fight injustice?

你認為人們應該抗爭不公平的事嗎？

One should not have 'shoulds' and 'should nots.'

人們不該有「應該」或「不應該」的想法

Okay....

好吧...

One should simply exist spontaneously.

一個人應該自發性地活著

If the moment brings fight,

如果那一刻有了抗爭戰鬥

fight --

那就抗爭戰鬥

and fight totally intensely.

而且全然的抗爭

But

但

don't fight for a belief,

不要為你的信仰戰鬥

don't fight

不要

for a prejudice.

為你的偏見戰鬥

Live in the moment,

活在當下

be alert --

要警覺

and out of that alertness, whatsoever happens

在這個警覺之下，無論發生什麼事

enjoy it.

就去享受它

So let me explain it exactly,

讓我解釋得更清楚些

because that may help you

如此才能幫你

to understand other questions and answers.

去理解其他的問題和答案

Thank you.

謝謝你

I don't have

我沒有

any belief system.

任何的信念系統

I don't have

我沒有

any creed,

任何的教條

dogma.

教義

My whole approach is

我整個門道是

existential.

存在性的

Right now you are there, I am here --

此時此刻你在那裡，我在這裡

and this is enough.

這已經足夠了

You may have prepared your questions,

或許你準備了你的問題

I have not prepared my answers.

但我並沒準備我的答案

Yes, I can see that.

是的，我可以看得出來

So you can ask your questions...

所以你能開始發問...

and I am a crazy man,

我是個狂人

I may say anything that

我也許會說任何

comes in the moment.

在此刻到來的話語

I don't care for any consistency

我不在意是否前後一致

and I don't care for any respectability.

我也不在意講出來的話是否體面

My whole responsibility

我的整個責任

is

是

to this moment.

對此時此刻的

Beyond that,

此時此刻之外

there is nothing.

就沒有什麼了

How's this moment going for you?

這個片刻你覺得如何？

Beautifully.

太美妙了

Great.

很棒

Your mustache

你的八字鬍

is giving me great joy!

帶給我很大的喜樂！

Thank you.

謝謝

Only, you are missing a beard.

可惜的是，你沒有留鬍子

It is half-hearted,

這樣並不全心全意

just go the full way!

全力以赴吧！

When it's coming up: I've been thinking about growing one, you know.

等它長出來：我曾經想要留鬍子的，你知道

You do it!

你就留吧！

A man without a beard and mustache

一個沒有留八字鬍和鬍鬚的男人

is just like a woman with a mustache and beard.

就像女人留著八字鬍和鬍鬚一樣

You know, I have to thank you.

你知道嗎？我該要好好謝謝你

About a year and a half ago

大約一年半以前

I had a really dark time in my life,

我處在我生命的黑暗期

and somebody suggested to get into meditation.

有人建議我做做靜心

I bought your 'Orange Book'

我買了你的「橘皮書」

on meditation...

進入靜心...

and some of them I couldn't use,

其中有些靜心我沒辦法做

some of them I could.

有些我能做

The one that changed what was happening for me around,

其中一項靜心改變了我當時的情況

was the laughter meditation.

那是笑的靜心

Because I would get up every day

每天我總得起床

and I'd say, "Do I have to get up again?"

我會問我自己：「我得要再起床嗎？」

And with the laughter meditation, as soon as

由於笑的靜心

I knew I was awake

我一醒來馬上

and I started laughing,

就開始大笑

the whole day went completely different than before.

一整天就過得跟以前完全不一樣了

So I need to thank you for showing me this meditation.

所以在此謝謝你讓我知道這項笑的靜心

Just one meditation

只是一項靜心

has done that much for you.

就對你有這麼大的幫助

If you try a few others,

如果你能試著做其他幾項靜心

you will not find words

你就再也找不到任何字眼

to thank me.

來感激我了

I have 112 methods of meditation

我有112種靜心的方法

and if a person can manage even

如果一個人能從中選擇

ten out of those,

十種靜心來做

his life will be

他的生命會充滿

a sheer joy --

無盡的喜悅

with no dark moments,

沒有任何的黑暗時刻

with no frustration,

不會有沮喪

with no tension,

更不會有緊張

no anxiety.

也不會有焦慮

Whatsoever happens,

不管任何發生

he will be able to accept it

他都能接受

without any grudge,

而沒有任何的怨尤

without any complaint.

沒有任何的抱怨

His gratitude towards existence will be infinite.

他對存在抱持著無盡的謝意

We are very ungrateful to existence.

我們都很不懂得感激存在

It has given so much to us --

它在沒有我們的要求之下

and without our asking.

就已經給了我們那麼多

And we are such

然而我們卻是

ungrateful creatures

如此不知感恩的眾生

that we don't even bother

甚而懶得去看看四周

to look around at what existence

存在持續

is continuously doing for us...

為我們做了些什麼...

the sun, the moon, the stars, the trees;

太陽，月亮，星星以及樹木

the birds, the animals, the people.

鳥兒，動物以及人們

You are living

你生活在

in a tremendously

極其

beautiful dream.

美麗的夢裡

But you

但你

have to be

必須

awake about it,

對這種種有所醒悟

then only

只有如此

a gratefulness arises.

感激之情才會由然而起

I call that gratefulness true religion.

我稱這種感恩的心為真實的宗教

A man need not be a Christian to be religious;

一個人不必成為基督教徒才會有宗教情操

he need not be a Hindu to be religious.

也不必成為印度教徒才會有宗教情操

All that he needs is

他所需要的是

a deep gratitude

對存在

towards existence.

懷著深切的感激

He need not believe in God,

他不需相信上帝

he need not believe in heaven and hell...

他不用相信天堂與地獄...

just a simple phenomenon:

就這麼一個簡單的現象

a deep-felt gratitude

一個深切的感恩

that this existence would have been

感謝這存在或許已經

missing something without you;

因為沒有你而錯失了某些東西

that this vast existence needed you,

感謝這浩瀚的存在是需要你的

no one else.

也唯獨是你

And that your place

而且你的地位

was empty before you, will be empty after you.

在你之前是空著的，在你之後也將是空著的

It is irreplaceable.

那是不可取代的

That gives a great contentment.

存在滿足你所有的一切

Man's greatest need is to be needed,

人們最大的需求就是被需要

and to feel that the whole existence needs you,

去感受整個存在需要你

otherwise you would not have been here.

要不然你是不會在這世上的

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Source: 'The Last Testament, Volume 2 # 3' Copyright OSHO International Foundation, Switzerland. OSHO is a registered TM

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