Christian Crosstalk "An Antichrist in the Church"| Be Careful! Don't Be Deceived by Modern Pharisees

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Brother Li,
I can see your glowing expression and radiant grin,
it looks like you have some good news.
I've happily received the Lord's return,
and now I am dining at the wedding banquet of the Lamb.
- Of course I'm happy! - Yes!
That's worth celebrating.
- Thanks be to the Lord. - Yes.
But I have to tell you about the process of receiving the Lord.
It was like pushing a wheelbarrow up the stairs.
What do you mean?
It was bumpy at every step!
It seems like there were quite a few obstacles.
The point is, there's no way to guard against them.
There are some people who specifically say evil things and fallacies
to make right and wrong confusing
and prevent people from investigating the true way in myriad ways.
- Who could put up with that? - Wait, who does that?
Deceiving people?
They're evil!
Yes.
These people are hidden within the church,
and if you don't pay attention,
you will be deceived,
and that will ruin your chance to be lifted up and enter the kingdom of heaven.
Yes.
Then tell us everything…
Yes.
…so we can all develop some discernment.
That day,
Brother Yang in our church told me,
"The Lord Jesus has returned.
He is Almighty God,
and He has come to express the truth and do the work of judgment beginning with God's house."
That really is fantastic news!
Absolutely!
When I heard that news, I can't tell you how happy I felt…
Happy!
…and excited.
Excited!
Words can't express the emotions I felt at that moment …
But don't just think about being happy,
we have to listen for the Lord's voice and receive the Lord!
That's right.
And several of us were investigating Almighty God's work of the last days
when our church's Pastor Wei rushed back from out of town.
Here he comes.
It looks like you're all having a meeting!
Pastor Wei.
Yes?
We're all reading Almighty God's words.
Would you like to read with us?
Brothers and sisters,
I understand how much you all yearn for the Lord's return,
but you can't listen to sermons from Eastern Lightning!
No, no.
- No, Pastor Wei. - Yes?
Almighty God actually is the returned Lord Jesus.
Almighty God expresses the truth,
and opens us to all truths regarding the inside story of the Bible,
the mystery of incarnation,
how God judges and purifies people, and—
And how God determines each kind of people's destination and ending.
Yes.
He also points out the path for people to gain salvation, enter the kingdom of heaven.
Yes!
How could that be possible?
The Bible contains the entirety of God's salvation,
and God couldn't possibly work or speak outside the Bible.
You see that?
I've been investigating the Bible my whole life,
and I am certain
that all of God's words and work are recorded in the Bible.
Anything that goes outside the Bible is heresy.
No, look, that's not—
So, yes,
no matter what, you must not investigate Eastern Lightning!
If there's any sermon you'd like to hear …
I …
I can preach it!
It looks like Pastor Wei is specifically trying to prevent believers
from investigating the true way.
Absolutely!
Fortunately, I've read Almighty God's words
and understood some of the inside story of the Bible,
so I wasn't fooled.
Right.
Then you'd better have a talk with your pastor
and tell him not to deceive his brothers and sisters.
I did that.
Pastor Wei grunted and moaned, but he ignored me.
What did you say?
Pastor Wei, you say,
"All of God's words and work are in the Bible,
and anything outside the Bible is heresy,"
but I'm afraid I don't agree with that.
Right.
Do you have a biblical basis for that claim?
Did the Lord Jesus ever say those words?
Did the Holy Spirit ever say such things?
That's the right question.
You say, "All of God's words and work are in the Bible,"
but the apostle John said,
That's right.
How do you explain that verse?
Yes.
There's a conflict here.
You say, "Anything outside the Bible is heresy,"
but when the Lord Jesus did the work of redemption,
didn't that go outside the Old Testament?
Right.
So, given what you say,
doesn't that also deny and condemn the Lord Jesus' words and work?
You—
It's worse than that.
His words even condemn the Lord's appearance and work in the last days!
What did the Lord Jesus prophesy?
What did He say?
Revelation also prophesies,
Yes.
When the Lord comes, He will open the scroll and break the seven seals.
Yes.
This refers to the returned Lord's utterances and words in the last days.
That's right.
That's what I said.
- You told him all that? - Yes.
- Look at how impatient I get. - Yes.
Keep going, keep going.
Fine.
Pastor Wei,
would the words the Lord expresses in the last days be recorded ahead of time in the Bible?
Certainly not!
At each stage of God's work,
God begins a new age and expresses new words.
Yes.
How could those be recorded in the Bible beforehand?
Right.
Which one of them came first,
the Bible or God's work?
Did the Bible produce God's work, or did God's work produce the Bible?
Of course God's work came first!
The Bible
is only a record of God's work in the Age of Law and the Age of Grace.
Right.
Bluntly speaking…
Yes?
…the Bible is just a historical book of God's past work.
Yes.
That's absolutely right.
Pastor Wei,
you say God's words and work are limited to what's in the Bible,
and that "anything beyond the Bible is heresy,"
but isn't that just a fallacy?
Exactly.
God is the Lord of creation,
and His richness is all-encompassing.
Yes.
Could the entirety of God's work really be only the limited amount recorded in the Bible?
God couldn't do new work or speak new words outside the Bible?
Isn't that delimiting, belittling, and blaspheming God?
Right.
So, I asked him:
Pastor Wei,
Almighty God, Christ of the last days, opens the scroll,
and expresses the truth needed to purify and save mankind…
Yes.
…but you condemn and resist because Almighty God's words and work go beyond the Bible,
and you deceive and block us from investigating the true way.
Are you purposely trying to keep us from hearing the Lord's voice and receiving Him?
Exactly.
I really can't tell
whether you're a servant or an enemy of the Lord.
Right.
Hey, everything I asked him was the truth, wasn't it?
Yes, it was.
Pastor Wei owed us an explanation, didn't he?
Yes, he did.
He just stood there, shaking his head,
stunned and mumbling and not answering.
He was like a dictionary with faded ink.
What do you mean?
He had no words!
Right.
He didn't say anything about fellowshiping on the truth,
but there's no one better to spread evil fallacies!
Yes.
Show us what you mean.
I stop you from investigating Eastern Lightning,
and that makes me a sinner?
Doesn't it?
If I ask you to keep to the Bible,
what … what's wrong with that?
It's because I'm afraid you'll be deceived, can't you see?
Alright, stop it.
The Bible is the foundation of our faith.
For 2,000 years,
the entire religious world has based belief in the Lord on the Bible.
You could say that belief in the Lord is belief in the Bible,
and that the Bible represents the Lord.
As long as we keep to the Bible,
we can enter the kingdom of heaven and gain everlasting life.
- Do you see that, guys? - Yes.
That's how he is.
God is the Lord of creation,
and the Bible is only a historical record of God's past work.
Right.
How could it be on par with God?
Obviously it can't.
Pastor Wei,
God is the Creator of all things, and He rules over all things.
Can the Bible do that?
No way.
God can do the work of redeeming and saving man,
can the Bible do that?
No way.
God can express the truth and do the work of judgment,
can the Bible do that?
No way.
That's right.
So when you say the Bible represents the Lord,
aren't you blaspheming God?
Exactly.
Yes.
Pastor Wei usually has a lot to say
when he interprets the Bible,
but when he heard my questions…
What happened?
…all of a sudden his jug of words actually ran dry.
Fine.
There was more he wanted to say,
but logic couldn't support him!
That's right.
Pastor Wei,
the Lord Jesus clearly said,
The Lord's words are clear about this.
Yes.
The Bible is only testimony of God's work.
There is no everlasting life in the Bible…
That's right.
…and the Bible can't give people life.
Right.
Only God is the source of life,
and only He can give people the truth and life.
Yes.
Only by following God's footsteps
and accepting the provision of Almighty God's words,
who is Christ of the last days, can we gain the truth and life.
Exactly.
Pastor Wei,
as a pastor yourself,
you don't lead us in investigating the true way.
Instead, with all your strength,
you spread fallacies like "the Bible represents the Lord,
and by keeping to the Bible we can enter the kingdom of heaven."
That's right.
By keeping us firmly limited to the Bible,
aren't you ruining our chance
to be lifted up and enter the kingdom of heaven?
Yes.
The pastors and elders strive to exalt the Bible
and make people treat it like God.
Their goal is to make others worship and follow them as biblical experts.
Yes.
They want other people firmly under their control.
It's an attempt to contend with God,
and build their own kingdoms!
Right.
This is exactly what the Pharisees did in their day.
Exactly.
Pastor Wei,
in their day the Pharisees stubbornly kept to the scriptures.
They used the rote text of the scriptures to condemn the Lord Jesus…
Yes.
…and have Him crucified,
leading to the death of the Israeli nation.
It was a tragic lesson!
You not only fail to learn the lesson; you walk the same path of the Pharisees.
You resist God, go to hell,
and want to drag the believers to their deaths with you.
That makes you beyond vicious, doesn't it?
If he had any fear of God in his heart,
he would have stopped before he started!
Yes.
I saw Pastor Wei lower his head, and he looked so serious.
Was he reflecting on himself?
His eyes wandered,
and he wouldn't look at anyone.
He felt ashamed to look them in the eye.
He put down his teacup,
and gripped his cane tightly.
He was about to apologize!
I'm a pastor,
and it's my responsibility to stop you from investigating Eastern Lightning!
Look at that!
Not letting you depart from the Bible
is taking responsibility for your lives, and being loyal to the Lord.
There's no way I could be wrong by leading my believers this way.
That sounds completely stubborn and shameless.
Alright,
so enough of these sermons, everyone go home!
Everyone go home!
At least he left.
He certainly did leave,
but he was going to seal up the church.
What?
But,
the brothers and sisters in the church who sincerely believe in the Lord
still wanted to investigate Almighty God's work of the last days.
Thanks be to God!
One day, we were all having a meeting.
My brothers and sisters had just received the Lord,
and words can't express the joy we felt.
Everyone was singing and dancing together.
Words can't begin to express what the atmosphere was like …
But don't just say how happy you are!
Why don't you sing and dance for us?
But, it … it's embarrassing.
Can you believe he's actually embarrassed?
Stop! Stop! Stop!
Stop! Stop!
Stop that!
What are you doing? Huh?
Oh, look, the pastor's here.
You've accepted Eastern Lightning,
and now you do nothing but steal sheep from my church!
Interesting,
now the Lord's sheep are his sheep.
Hey, do you have any respect for pastors and elders at all?
Oh, it's not just the pastor here this time!
For your sake,
Pastor Wei works very hard and tries every trick…
What?
…makes every effort.
Don't you know that stopping you from investigating Eastern Lightning is for your own good?
Pastor Wei has been running for you so much his legs look skinny.
What?
Oh, no, that's his cane.
Alright then.
Listen, Brother Li,
think about it,
if Eastern Lightning was the true way,
wouldn't Pastor Wei have accepted it?
If you ask me,
in the matter of receiving the Lord,
we should all be listening to Pastor Wei.
Our Pastor Wei has believed in the Lord his entire life,
and if we listen to Pastor Wei, there's no way …
and if we listen to Pastor Wei,
there's no way we can go wrong.
Isn't that right?
Birds of a feather sure do flock together.
And when they had finished speaking, Sister Li,
who was investigating the true way, stood up.
As believers in the Lord, we have to listen to the Lord's words.
Yes.
Did the Lord Jesus ever require us to listen to our pastor?
Can our pastor hear God's voice?
Right.
Can he lead us in receiving the Lord?
It's been hard enough for us to hear the Lord's voice and see His appearance,
but time and again you come to disturb us,
and still think you haven't harmed us enough?
She said that wonderfully.
She had a strong, well-founded opinion.
Now …
brothers and sisters,
you have all been deceived!
Oh no!
In the matter of awaiting the Lord's coming,
we need to base our actions
on the prophecies in the Bible and the Lord's words.
What does it say in Revelation 1:7?
What does it say?
And Matthew 24:30 says,
When the Lord comes,
He will come on clouds.
Anyone who testifies the Lord will come in incarnate flesh is certainly false.
Anyone who doesn't come on clouds isn't the Lord Jesus,
and under no circumstances can we accept them!
Oh wow!
It's just fallacy after fallacy.
Now they come out with
"any who testify that the Lord will come incarnate are false."
Did the Lord Jesus ever say those words?
No, He didn't.
How about the Holy Spirit?
Of course not.
Then what's his basis for determining that the Lord doesn't return in incarnate flesh?
- Isn't he— - Hey hey hey …
That's supposed to be my line!
But … but … but I'm angry!
I don't blame you.
There are many prophecies in the Bible about the Lord's return.
Exactly.
Beyond prophecies about the Lord appearing openly and coming on clouds,
there are prophecies about the Lord coming hidden in incarnate flesh.
That's right.
But this pastor continues to mistakenly insist on the only way the Lord will return on clouds.
Isn't that just blatantly deceiving people?
Yes, it is!
Pastor Wei,
And
The Lord prophesied that when He returns,
He will "come as the Son of man."
"Son of man" means He will be born of man.
Yes.
He will have normal humanity.
God's Spirit, and the Lord Jesus after resurrection, who was a spiritual body,
we can't call Them "the Son of man."
So, when the Lord Jesus said He would "come as the Son of man,"
it meant that the Lord would return as incarnate flesh.
That's right.
The appearance and work of Almighty God
fulfills the prophecy of "the coming of the Son of man."
Yes.
God comes hidden in incarnate flesh in the last days,
and makes a group of overcomers before the great disaster.
Only after the great disaster will God appear openly upon clouds
to the people of all nations.
That fulfills this prophecy in Revelation,
Amen!
Pastor Wei,
when the Lord comes openly on clouds,
God's work of saving mankind will be finished.
Yes.
At that point,
all who rejected Almighty God's work in the last days,
or who resisted or condemned Almighty God,
will fall into disaster,
and wail and gnash their teeth!
This pastor really is dangerous!
Pastor Wei, honestly,
you constantly ask us to wait blindly for the Lord to come on clouds,
and you stop us from accepting Almighty God's work of the last days.
Aren't you ruining our chance
to be lifted up and enter the kingdom of heaven?
Exactly.
How are you any different from the Pharisees in their time?
There's no difference.
Amen!
Amen!
If you resist God like this,
aren't you afraid God will curse you?
Oh yes.
They've been harmed very badly by their pastor!
You … you … no matter what,
any Lord Jesus who doesn't come on clouds,
we absolutely must not accept!
If resisting Eastern Lightning is resisting the Lord,
then I'll take the sin of resisting God upon myself.
Sounds like a Pharisee time-traveled to the present!
Yes.
Pastor Wei,
it says in the Bible,
Pastor Wei,
you spread these absurd fallacies,
you preach the idea that
"any who preach the Lord's return as incarnate flesh are false,"
you openly deny and condemn the Christ of the last days, Almighty God…
Yes.
…use all kinds of evil fallacies to deceive the believers
and make them follow you in resisting God's work in the last days…
Right.
…and you've turned the religious world into an encampment of Satan, an enemy of God.
Exactly.
Doesn't that make you an authentic antichrist?
When you exposed the pastor's true colors,
he must have been furious and lost his temper!
I'm a pastor,
and you say I'm an antichrist?
Well, aren't you?
What a ridiculous thing to say!
I believe that the Lord Jesus is Christ,
and I haven't denied or resisted the Lord,
so how could I be an antichrist?
No matter what you say,
I believe only the Lord Jesus is Christ and Savior,
and I believe in no one but the Lord Jesus Christ!
You say you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ,
but how do you do that?
I …
Have you heard what the Lord Jesus said?
What makes you think I haven't?
The Lord prophesied many times
that He would return incarnate as the Son of man,
but have you looked at what you do?
What do I do?
You spread the fallacy everywhere
that "any who preach the Lord's return as incarnate flesh are false."
By doing this, aren't you blatantly denying the Lord's words and condemning Him?
I …
The Lord said He would return,
and He asked us to be wise virgins,
listen for the shout of the groom's arrival, and go to receive Him.
And in this, too, what have you done?
You refuse to seek,
and also use all kinds of tricks to stop us from seeking and investigating.
Where is the reality of your belief in Jesus Christ expressed?
You don't accept the Lord's words at all,
you have no obedience to Him,
and you still dare to call yourself a believer in Jesus Christ?
I …
I'm a pastor!
I've believed in the Lord my entire life.
To say that I don't believe in Jesus Christ?
That's nothing but a joke!
Do you think that saying the Lord Jesus' name is what it means to believe in Christ?
Does it represent obedience and knowledge of Christ?
Christ of the last days, Almighty God,
expresses the truth
and does the work of judging and purifying people.
This is enough to prove that Almighty God is the returned Lord Jesus.
You refuse to accept Almighty God,
and instead resist and condemn Him.
Obviously,
you have no knowledge of Christ,
nor do you admit Christ is the truth, the way, and the life.
I believe only in the Lord Jesus!
The only thing you believe in is the three words "the Lord Jesus"!
But …
With the way you despise the truth and Christ, and make yourself an enemy of God,
I really think…
What do you think?
…if you had lived 2,000 years ago,
you would have resisted the Lord Jesus and had Him nailed to the cross!
You!
I'll tell you what it is.
I worked very hard to establish this church,
and if anyone comes to take my sheep, they are my enemy!
Look at that!
I'm warning you,
if you ever come back to my church and preach Eastern Lightning again,
I'll make sure you end up in prison!
Well!
The antichrist's demonic face is unquestionably revealed!
That's right.
If the facts hadn't revealed these things,
we wouldn't have even dared to think
that these noble people
who call themselves servants of God
are actually just a group of non-believers…
Yes.
…a group of antichrists who hate the truth and Christ.
That's right.
Hey,
I recall a passage of Almighty God's words,
Amen!
Hey,
if not for the appearance and work of God incarnate in the last days
revealing these evil servants and antichrists hidden in the church,
we would be deceived and sent to our dooms
without even knowing it.
That's right.
Today, the entire religious world's controlled by the evil antichrist forces.
As believers in the Lord,
if we don't quickly break through the constraints and bondage of the antichrists
and accept God's work of the last days,
then we will fall into disaster and be punished.
We must spread the gospel,
continue to witness Almighty God's work in the last days.
And allow more people who sincerely believe in God and yearn for God's appearance
to escape the control of the antichrists
and follow the footsteps of the Lamb!