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Transcript of Chair Powell's Press Conference March 20,
2019 CHAIR POWELL.
Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome.
I will begin with an overview of economic conditions
and an explanation
of the decisions the Committee made at today's meeting.
My colleagues and I have one overarching goal:
to sustain the economic expansion,
with a strong job market and stable prices, for the benefit
of the American people.
The U.S. economy is in a good place, and we will continue
to use our monetary policy tools to help keep it there.
The jobs market is strong, showing healthier wage gains
and prompting many people to join or remain in the workforce.
The unemployment rate is near historic lows,
and inflation remains near our 2 percent goal.
We continue to expect that the American economy will grow
at a solid pace in 2019, although likely slower
than the very strong pace of 2018.
We believe that our current policy stance is appropriate.
Since last year, however, we have noted some developments
at home and around the world that bear close attention.
Given the overall favorable conditions in our economy,
my colleagues and I will be patient in assessing what,
if any, changes in the stance of policy may be needed.
Let me explain in more detail how incoming data warrant our
current stance and a wait and see approach to changes.
With the benefit of fiscal stimulus and other tailwinds,
growth in 2018 was strong-in fact, at 3.1 percent,
the strongest year in more than a decade.
For some time, most forecasts have called for growth
to continue in 2019 at a somewhat lower
but still healthy pace.
For example, last September,
Committee participants saw growth coming in at
about 2.5 percent this year.
Data arriving since September suggest
that growth is slowing somewhat more than expected.
Financial conditions tightened considerably
over the fourth quarter.
While conditions have eased since then,
they remain less supportive of growth than during most of 2018.
Growth has slowed in some foreign economies-notably,
in Europe and China.
While the U.S. economy showed little evidence of slowdown
through the end of 2018, the limited data we have
so far this year have been somewhat more mixed.
Unusually strong payroll job growth in January was followed
by little growth at all in February.
Smoothing through these variations,
average monthly job growth appears to have stepped
down from last year's strong pace, but job gains remain well
above the pace necessary to provide jobs
for new labor force entrants.
Many other labor market indicators continue
to show strength.
Weak retail sales data
for December bounced back considerably in January but,
on balance, seem to point
to somewhat slower growth in consumer spending.
Business fixed investment also appears to be growing
at a slower pace than last year.
Inflation has been muted, and some indicators
of longer-term inflation expectations remain
at the low end of their ranges in recent years.
Along with these developments, unresolved policy issues,
such as Brexit and the ongoing trade negotiations,
pose some risks to the outlook.
Much of the discussion at our meeting focused
on what we should make of the varied indicators.
Today's Summary of Economic Projections, the SEP,
reflects the assessments
of individual Committee participants.
And these views are in line with a broad range of other forecasts
and point to a modest slowdown,
with overall conditions remaining favorable.
FOMC participants sought-now see 2019 growth
at roughly 2 percent, with the unemployment rate remaining
below 4 percent.
Core inflation, which omits the effects of volatile food
and energy prices, remains close to 2 percent.
Declines in oil prices since last fall are expected
to push headline inflation below 2 percent for a time,
but this effect is likely to be temporary.
Now, I'm describing views of the most likely outcomes,
but historical experience reminds us that growth
and inflation this year could be stronger or weaker
than what we now project.
The federal funds rate is now in the broad range of estimates
of neutral-the rate that tends neither to stimulate nor
to restrain the economy.
As I noted, my colleagues and I think
that this setting is well suited to the current outlook
and believe that we should be patient in assessing the need
for any change in the stance of policy.
"Patient" means that we see no need to rush to judgment.
It may be some time before the outlook for jobs
and inflation calls clearly for a change in policy.
In discussing the Committee's projections,
it's useful to note what those projections are,
as well as what they are not.
The SEP includes participants' individual projections
of the most likely economic scenario, along with their views
of the appropriate path
of the federal funds rate in that scenario.
Views about the most likely scenario form one input
into our policy discussions.
We also discuss other plausible scenarios, including the risk
of more worrisome outcomes.
These and other scenarios and many other considerations go
into policy but are not reflected in projections
of the most likely case.
Thus, we always emphasize that the interest rate projections
in the SEP are not a Committee decision.
They are not a Committee plan.
As Chair Yellen noted some years ago, the FOMC statement,
rather than the dot plot, is the device that the Committee uses
to express its opinions about the likely path of rates.
Today the Committee released Balance Sheet Normalization
Principles and Plans-revised Balance Sheet Normalization
Principles and Plans.
We have long said that the size
of the balance sheet will be considered normalized
when the balance sheet is once again
at the smallest level consistent
with conducting monetary policy efficiently and effectively.
We have sought to make the normalization process
transparent, predictable, and gradual in order
to minimize disruption and risks to our dual-mandate objectives.
Today's announcement is the result of discussions
over the past four FOMC meetings about how best
to achieve these goals.
The plans have many technical details, and I'll be happy
to answer questions on those details.
But, for now, I'll summarize the key elements.
Since October 2017, we have been allowing our asset holdings
to decline by not reinvesting all of the payments we receive
as securities matured or were prepaid.
Today we announced that we intend to slow the runoff
of our assets starting in May and to cease runoff entirely
in September of this year.
In September, reserve balances may still be somewhat
above the level required
to conduct policy efficiently and effectively.
If this is so, we may hold the size
of our asset holdings roughly constant for a time.
During this time, ongoing gradual increases in currency
and our other nonreserve liabilities would imply very
gradual declines in reserve balances.
When the Committee judges
that reserves should not decline further,
securities holdings will again begin to rise,
as dictated by the growth of demand for our reserve
and nonreserve liabilities.
We believe that these plans will facilitate a predictable,
transparent, and smooth process,
and we will make additional adjustments
if conditions warrant.
The Committee will soon turn
to a few remaining normalization topics,
including the desired maturity composition of our portfolio
of Treasury securities.
We maintain our long-stated intention to return
to a portfolio consisting mainly of Treasury securities.
Thank you.
And I will be glad to take your questions.
HEATHER LONG.
Heather Long from the Washington Post.
On the broader economy, can you clarify how worried the FOMC is
about a steep slowdown?
Some of the actions today look like there is more worry.
And on the balance sheet, can you clarify:
Does the FOMC see the runoff as a form of monetary tightening?
CHAIR POWELL.
So, on the outlook, our outlook is a positive one.
So, as I mentioned, FOMC participants continue
to see growth this year of around 2 percent,
just a bit below what we saw back in-at the end of last year.
And part of that is seeing
that economic fundamentals-underlying economic
fundamentals are still very strong.
You have a strong labor market by most measures.
You have rising incomes.
You've got very low unemployment.
You have confidence surveys for households and also
for businesses that are at attractive levels,
and you also have financial conditions
that are more accommodative
than they were a couple of months ago.
So we see the outlook as a positive one.
As far as balance sheet-the balance sheet plan,
the answer to that is, you asked whether that's related
to our monetary policy, in effect,
and the answer is really "no."
We are-we still-we think of the interest rate tool
as the principal tool of monetary policy, and we think
of ourselves as returning the balance sheet to a normal level
over the course of the next six months.
And we're not really thinking of those
as two different tools of monetary policy.
STEVE LIESMAN.
Steve Liesman, CNBC.
Mr. Chairman, can you talk
about how global developments are affecting the U.S.?
What's the cause of the weakness over there?
How much is it responsible for the downgrade in GDP over here?
And what impact are tariffs, both in the United States
and retaliatory tariffs, having on both the U.S.
and the global economies?
Thank you.
CHAIR POWELL.
So the global economy was a tailwind
for the United States in 2017.
That was the year of synchronized global growth.
And we began 2018 expecting and hoping for more of the same.
What happened instead is that the global economy started
to gradually slow, and now we see a situation
where the European economy has slowed substantially-and
so has the Chinese economy,
although the European economy more.
And just as strong global growth was a tailwind,
weaker global growth can be a headwind to our economy.
How big is that effect?
It's hard to be precise about it, but,
clearly, we will feel that.
It is an integrated global economy,
and global financial markets are integrated as well.
In terms of what's causing it,
it seems to be a range of different things.
In China, you have, you know,
factors that are very specific to China.
The main point, though, is that, I would say,
the outlook-let's look at the outlook.
Chinese authorities have taken many steps since the middle
of last year to support economic activity,
and I think the base case is that, ultimately,
Chinese activity will stabilize at an attractive level.
And in Europe, you know, we see some weakening, but, again,
we don't see-we don't see recession,
and we do see positive growth still.
You ask about tariffs.
I would say, tariffs may be a factor in China.
I don't think they're the main factor.
I think the main factors are the delevering campaign
that the government undertook a couple of years ago
and also just the longer-term slowing
to a more sustainable pace of growth
that economies find as they mature.
In terms of our own economy,
the level of tariffs is relatively small in the size
of our economy-relative to the size of our economy.
We have, since the beginning of the year-and before,
really-been hearing from our extensive network
of business contacts a lot of concerns about tariffs,
concerns about material costs on imported products, and the loss
of markets and things like that, depending on which industry,
so there's a fair amount of uncertainty.
It's hard to say how much
of an effect that's having on our economy.
It's very hard to tease that apart.
But I will say, it's been a prominent concern among our
business contacts for some time now.
JAMES PUZZANGHERA.
Hi. Thank you, Chairman.
I want to switch gears temporarily to Wells Fargo.
Wells Fargo last week announced
that its chief executive received a 5 percent pay raise
last year, and this comes among continued settlements
by the bank of various consumer abuse and reports
that new consumer-unfriendly sales incentives are returning.
Do you have concerns about Wells Fargo's efforts
to fix its problems, and do you expect the asset cap to remain
in place beyond this year?
CHAIR POWELL.
Wells Fargo.
So what happened at Wells Fargo really was a remarkably
widespread series of breakdowns, really,
in their risk-management apparatus, which resulted
in significant consumer abuses, let's say.
And as it's gone on and on,
it's become clear that-I think some time ago it became clear
that these are deep problems that needed to be addressed
in a fundamental kind of a way.
So there's a lot of work to do on that.
And we put in place, really, an unprecedented sanction
in the form of an asset growth cap, and we will not lift
that until Wells Fargo gets their arms around this,
comes forward with plans, implements those plans,
and we're satisfied with what they've done.
And that's not where we are right now.
JAMES PUZZANGHERA.
Do you believe it's appropriate-do you believe it's
appropriate for the CEO to be getting a pay raise in light
of those conditions, in terms of corporate governance?
CHAIR POWELL.
You know, our main supervisory focus is
on the company fixing its risk-management approach
and fundamentally rebuilding that approach.
We don't approve individual pay packages.
We do supervise boards of directors for, you know,
for having a set of compensation practices
that don't reward short-term risk-taking
and that sort of thing.
And we will supervise based on that.
MICHAEL MCKEE.
Michael McKee with Bloomberg Radio and Television.
I wonder if you could discuss the balance of risks.
I know you said that the outlook among the Committee members is a
positive one, but since the end of the meeting,
the 3-month-10-year Treasury spread has fallen
to 7 basis points, and now,
according to fed funds futures trading,
there's a 50 percent chance of a rate cut by next January.
How far off are the markets?
What do you think the risks actually are?
CHAIR POWELL.
Well, first, the data are not currently sending a signal
that we need to move in one direction
or another, in my view.
I would say it this way: We see a positive outlook
for this year, a favorable outlook
for this year, as I mentioned.
So, in our SEP projections, Committee members, participants,
generally see growth of around 2 percent.
They see unemployment remaining below 4 percent.
They see inflation remaining close to target.
And they see growth, as I said, around 2 percent.
So, you know, that's a positive outlook.
It's a favorable outlook.
We're also very mindful-and we have been, of course,
all along-of what the risks are.
And you see-you mentioned some of them.
You know, you see slowing global growth.
You still have-there's no resolution of Brexit.
There's no resolution, really, of the trade talks.
These are ongoing risks.
We're also carefully monitoring what's happening
with U.S. growth.
We called that out in our statement.
You know, the limited data that we have do show a slowdown.
On the other hand, as I mentioned,
we see the underlying economic fundamentals
for growth this year as still very positive.
So that's really how we're thinking about it.
JIM TANKERSLEY.
Hi, Mr. Chairman.
Jim Tankersley, New York Times.
I'm curious, you're now a full percentage point-actually,
more than a percentage point-below the White House
in your projections for growth this year.
By my calculations, that's the largest spread we've seen
since the end of the recession
between the White House and the Fed.
Why, for one, do you see-do you think you see the economy
so differently than they do, and do you worry at all
about implications for policy from that?
CHAIR POWELL.
I haven't-I haven't seen their projection.
I wouldn't comment on their projection.
I would take it this way.
You can think of growth as being composed of two things.
And one is really growth in the workforce-more hours worked.
And the other is productivity-it's output
per hour.
You can really think of growth as those two things.
And I've been calling-often mentioning these days
that it would be great if we had national-level policies
to support higher labor force participation.
The United States is now one
of the lowest countries among the advanced economies,
in terms of our labor force participation
by prime-age workers.
And that's a place where we can grow faster.
If we can bring more people into the labor force
and give them a chance to contribute to and benefit
from our overall prosperity,
that will be a great thing for the country.
So I would like to see that.
Productivity is much harder.
It's very difficult to project productivity
over long stretches of time.
It's a function of evolving technology.
So, I guess I would say, what is the potential growth rate?
It's quite hard to know with any precision, and I just would
like to see us, you know, undertake an effort
to make it be as high as it can sustainably be.
JIM TANKERSLEY.
A quick follow-up on that.
Do you see the tax cuts-the 2017 tax cuts
as having provided a large boost to labor force participation
as the White House does?
CHAIR POWELL.
I would say so.
I think it's clear that the tax and spending policies
that were adopted early last year supported demand
in a significant way last year.
And it's also the case, I think,
that they should have some supply-side effects.
I think it's hard to know, it's hard to identify those
with any precision, and we hope they're-we hope they're
very large.
You know, the idea would be
that lowering corporate taxes would spur more corporate
investment, which would spur more productivity,
and lowering individual taxes would spur greater labor
force participation.
I wouldn't want to be handing-you know,
assigning credit or blame for that, but I do think
that the performance of labor force participation
over the last, really, three
or four years has been an upside surprise
that most people didn't see coming,
and it's extremely welcome.
MARTIN CRUTSINGER.
Marty Crutsinger with the Associated Press.
With the new dot plot today,
you've gone from two rate hikes in 2019 to zero.
You still have one showing for next year.
The fed funds futures trading, as has been alluded to,
is showing rate cuts at the end of this year.
Are they-is that a possibility in your mind,
given the sharp change you've made at this meeting?
CHAIR POWELL.
As I mentioned, the data
that we're seeing are not currently sending a signal
which suggests moving in either direction for me,
which is really why we're being patient.
We feel our policy rate is in the range of neutral.
The economy is growing at about trend.
Inflation is close to target.
Unemployment is under 3 percent.
It's a great time for us to be patient and watch and wait
and see how things evolve.
VICTORIA GUIDA.
Hi. Victoria Guida with Politico.
On stress testing, I wanted to ask, how do you respond
to criticism that the Fed's recent move
to remove the qualitative objection
from CCAR makes it less transparent
to the general public?
And then, also, Governor Brainard dissented
on that decision, and she's dissented
on some other decisions as well regulatorily recently.
Does it concern you, given
that the Fed has traditionally been a consensus-based
organization, if you keep having these decisions where, you know,
a Board member is not onboard with them?
CHAIR POWELL.
So you mentioned the qualitative aspect of CCAR.
And U.S.-the large U.S. financial institutions have made
significant progress there and are now much better
at the capital planning process.
And for, really, some time now, for a couple of years,
we've talked about moving supervision
of that process-moving to a supervisory approach
to that rather than having a pass/fail in the stress tests.
We've been talking about that for quite a while.
And I think, given the level that the banks have moved
to in capital planning, we did that.
It shouldn't be a big surprise-something we've been
talking about doing for a couple of years.
For banks that are newer to CCAR and haven't made that kind
of progress, then they're still going
to be part of-they're still going to have a qualitative test
until they can reach similar levels of achievement.
In terms of having disparate views, I-look,
we try-we are very much a consensus-driven organization.
We try very hard to reach consensus on things.
In the end, it's very healthy to have disparate views
and to state them publicly and put them on the record.
It's nothing but healthy from my standpoint.
We'll always be trying to reach consensus, and, you know,
I'm committed to that.
TREVOR HUNNICUTT.
Trevor Hunnicutt from Reuters.
Just-you mentioned that you have, kind of,
a positive outlook as it regards the economy
but also see slower growth on the household side
and the business side.
Given how big of a part of the U.S. economy that is,
what gives you, kind of,
confidence that both the slowdown we're seeing
is temporary?
CHAIR POWELL.
So on the household side, what we saw was a very weak reading
on retail sales in December and then a bounceback
in the January reading.
And, you know, it was a surprise, I would say,
and inconsistent
with a significant amount of other data.
We're not dismissing it in any way, but I would go back to,
what is it that supports consumer spending?
It's 70 percent of the economy, as you point out.
It's strong economic underlying fundamentals, so, rising wages,
high levels of employment, low levels of unemployment,
high levels of job creation, confidence.
The household confidence surveys have moved back up to
where they were last summer.
So we look at those fundamentals, and we think
that looks like a setting
in which consumption will have support
from underlying economic fundamentals.
And that's really what we're thinking there.
So, you know, we're also patiently watching
and waiting and not assuming.
We're not taking no signal from the incoming data;
that's why we called it out in our statement.
So I think our eyes are open on this.
NICK TIMIRAOS.
Nick Timiraos of the Wall Street Journal.
Chair Powell, in 1998 the Fed eased policy in a way
that some say may have avoided a recession,
others say may have helped fuel the NASDAQ tech stock bubble.
And financial conditions have eased considerably this year
since the policy pivot that you made clear in January.
The S&P, for example, is just 3 percent below last
summer's peak.
And so, I wonder, does this episode from 20 years ago bear
at all on your thinking today about the risks posed
by rising asset values in an environment
of a shallower policy path?
CHAIR POWELL.
We're in a very different world today and post-crisis,
because we now very carefully monitor financial conditions
and financial stability concerns on an ongoing basis,
and we publish a report twice a year,
and we have quarterly Board meetings and briefings
where we look deeply into these things.
So this is something we have very much on our radar screen.
And I would say, overall,
we don't see financial stability vulnerabilities as high.
There are some aspects of the financial markets
that we're carefully monitoring, and those are in the nature
of things that might be amplifiers
to a downturn-as opposed to a financial stability concern,
which might lead to a financial crisis and that kind
of thing, which we don't see.
So we do monitor that.
And I would also say, you know, that the whole question
of monetary policy and financial stability is an unsettled
and difficult one in our world.
We do think that the principal tools for, you know,
for managing financial stability are regulation, supervision,
macroprudential tools, and those sorts of things as opposed
to changing the interest rate.
But we're certainly very mindful
of financial conditions and those risks.
NICK TIMIRAOS.
If I could ask a follow-up-if it's the case that we're
in a lower neutral interest rate world
where you could have more asset price appreciation,
do you think the Fed needs more macroprudential tools
so that it doesn't have to lean
on monetary policy to do so much?
CHAIR POWELL.
It's a very difficult question with a long answer.
We-in our system, we mainly rely on "through the cycle" tools
like high capital and stress tests.
Our financial stability system is built on those tools:
high capital, high liquidity,
resolution planning, stress testing.
So those are always on.
We also have some tools,
like the countercyclical capital buffer, which we can deploy
at times when vulnerabilities are meaningfully above normal.
But we do rely on those tools.
And I would say, our banks are well capitalized.
They're far better capitalized and better aware of their risks
and more liquid than they were before the financial crisis.
So they'll be more resilient in, you know,
in difficult states of the economy.
DONNA BORAK.
Donna Borak with CNN.
Included in the President's fiscal 2020 budget is a new
estimate that the nation's debt will balloon to more
than $31 trillion over the next decade, by 2029.
You've previously said that the country is
on an unsustainable fiscal path.
How alarming is that number to you?
And, while the United States might not be quite there yet,
when do you begin to worry about a possible credit crisis?
CHAIR POWELL.
I do think that deficits matter,
and I do think-I think it's not really controversial to say
that our debt can't grow faster than our economy indefinitely
and that's what it's doing now.
So this is something we will have to deal with,
and I think we can't really lose sight of that,
and I'd like to see a greater focus on that over time.
It's not in the nature of a near-term debt crisis
or anything like that, and I wouldn't want to try to predict
when that would happen, but it is something that it's important
that the public discussion really come back to,
if I can say that.
And we will have to deal with it eventually.
JAMES POLITI.
James Politi of the Financial Times.
There's huge uncertainty at the moment over the fate
of the Brexit negotiations.
How much of a factor has this been for the Fed
in turning towards a kind of patient approach
to monetary policy, and what's your base case on that?
And on the size of the balance sheet,
what's your-do you have a numerical estimate
for where it will be at the end
of September once the runoff is complete?
CHAIR POWELL.
So, of course, we're watching Brexit carefully and hoping
that it can be resolved in an orderly way.
From our standpoint, the part of it that we can control is
that we've been involved
with supervising our financial institutions
that are active either in the United Kingdom
or the European Union or both to make sure that they're ready
for the full range of possible outcomes to the-to Brexit.
So-and in doing so, we've also had-we've also worked alongside
regulators from the United Kingdom and the EU.
So we do, again, hope that that can be resolved well,
but we know that our banks are well capitalized and resilient
to different kinds of events.
In terms of the size of the balance sheet,
the balance sheet will be of a size of approximately 17 percent
of GDP around the end of this year, down from 25 percent
of GDP at the end of 2014-so,
significantly smaller relative to GDP than it was.
I'm guessing you're looking for a dollar number, though,
probably, and that would be-so, for the size
of the balance sheet, it looks like it'll be a bit
above $3.5 trillion then.
GREG ROBB.
Greg Robb from MarketWatch.
Chairman Powell, could you talk through your outlook
for inflation this year?
Aren't-you're not concerned about it?
And rising-why aren't rising wages feeding into inflation?
CHAIR POWELL.
Let me take wages first, if I can.
So wages have moved up in the last couple of years
and are now running at healthier, higher levels,
and that's a good thing.
In fact, a lot of the wage gains have been going
to lower-paid workers, as can happen late in the cycle,
which is also a good thing.
So-but that's not price inflation,
that's wage inflation.
Our mandate, sorry, is price inflation.
So what I see is inflation that's close to 2 percent
but that sort of keeps bumping up against 2 percent
and then maybe moving back down a little bit.
And I don't feel that we have kind
of convincingly achieved our 2 percent mandate
in a symmetrical way.
Now, what do we mean by "symmetrical"?
What we really mean is that we would look at-we know
that inflation will move around on both sides of the target,
and what we say is that we would be equally concerned
with inflation persistently
above as persistently below the target.
So that's really our framework.
And I don't think we've quite achieved that yet,
because we're really 10 years deep
in this-almost 10 years-in this expansion,
and inflation is still kind of, I'd say, not, you know,
clearly meeting our target.
So that's one of the reasons why we're being patient.
I think, as I've said before, I think inflation
that is a little bit below our target-particularly headline
inflation this year will be, you know,
meaningfully below our target for most of the year
because of lower oil prices, but we project
that core will be too-that gives us the ability to be patient
and not move until we see
that our target goals are being achieved.
GREG ROBB.
I just wanted to press a little bit about,
what is the story the Committee-you know, when you get
in the discussion today and yesterday about inflation,
what kind of is the story that emerges?
CHAIR POWELL.
So there are a bunch of different stories.
There's no real easy answer.
One of them is just that the natural rate
of unemployment is lower than people think.
That's one way to think about it,
that there's still more slack in the economy.
Another is that expectations play a very-inflation
expectations play a very key role in our framework
and other frameworks, and, you know, there is the possibility
that some people discuss
of expectations being anchored but below 2 percent.
And so, either way, inflation itself has kind of bounced
around a little below 2 percent.
That's the record.
PAUL KIERNAN.
Hi, Chairman Powell.
Thanks for the question.
Paul Kiernan from Dow Jones Newswires.
I'm just kind of curious-I mean,
this below-target inflation is a global phenomenon,
at least across advanced economies, and I'd just
like to kind of hear your thoughts about what kind
of challenges that poses to policymakers like yourself
and the global economy in general.
Yes, thanks.
CHAIR POWELL.
It's a major challenge.
It's one of the major challenges of our time, really,
to have inflation-you know, downward pressure
on inflation, let's say.
It gives central banks less room to, you know,
to respond to downturns, right?
So if inflation expectations are below 2 percent,
they're always going to be pulling inflation down,
and we're going to be paddling upstream in trying to, you know,
keep inflation at 2 percent, which gives us some room to cut,
you know, when it's time to cut rates when the economy weakens.
And, you know, that's something that central banks face all
over the world, and we certainly face that problem too.
It's one of the-one of the things we're looking
into as part of our strategic monetary policy review
this year.
The proximity to the zero lower bound calls
for more creative thinking about ways we can, you know,
uphold the credibility of our inflation target, and, you know,
we're open minded about ways we can do that.
EDWARD LAWRENCE.
Edward Lawrence from Fox Business Network.
So I counted five downgrades in the first paragraph
of the FOMC statement.
What conditions do you need to see in order for a rate cut
or a rate hike on the other side of that then?
CHAIR POWELL.
Well, we-I think we were-we wanted to be careful to go ahead
and acknowledge the things.
I think it's relatively little hard data so far this year,
but we were careful to point
out lower retail sales-the weak November meeting-BFI,
all those things, and I think that was the right thing to do.
Notwithstanding that, we do have a positive outlook for the year
for the reasons I mentioned-you know,
solid underlying economic fundamentals, et cetera.
So, and in terms of what it would take, I'd say, again,
today we don't see any-we don't see data coming in that suggests
that we should move in either direction.
They suggest that we should remain patient
and let the situation clarify itself over time.
When the time comes, we'll act appropriately.
MATTHEW BOESLER.
Hi. Matthew Boesler at Bloomberg.
Fed Vice Chairman Rich Clarida has talked about how the decline
in labor's share of income
and the corresponding high profit margins might mean
that lower unemployment
and higher wage growth is not flowing
through to price inflation the way it used to.
But, so far throughout this tightening cycle,
the Fed has not allowed wage growth to rise
above longer-term interest rates until just very recently.
So I'm wondering if, going forward, given these insights
about the labor share and high profit margins and the linkage
between wages and prices, would you be in favor
of allowing wage growth to continue accelerating
without matching that with higher interest rates?
CHAIR POWELL.
Well, let me say that we've had, you know, a significant move
up in wages and compensation over the last few years,
and I-which does not trouble me
from the standpoint of inflation.
We've had-also had-in other cycles,
we've had situations where, you know,
unit labor costs were moving up above inflation,
and that didn't lead to price inflation.
It does-you know, in theory, it can squeeze corporate margins,
and, you know, that can't go on indefinitely.
But, nonetheless, I don't see the current wage picture
as concerning from an inflation standpoint.
MATTHEW BOESLER.
More generally, to the extent that wage growth in excess
of interest rates allows households to pay
down debt faster, whereas interest rates in excess
of wage growth risks a further buildup in debt,
how do you account for the sort
of financial stability consequences
of varying interest rates relative to wage growth?
CHAIR POWELL.
I don't think we look at-I understand what you're asking,
but we're looking at-our mandate is price inflation
and maximum employment, and that's what we're looking
at with setting interest rates.
And we also monitor financial stability very carefully
across all meaningful asset categories.
I don't think we tie it particularly
to the relationship you're talking about.
NANCY MARSHALL-GENZER.
Nancy Marshall-Genzer with Marketplace.
Just a quick follow-up on Brexit.
You mentioned that you're making sure
that U.S. financial institutions are ready for whatever outcome.
I'm wondering, can you be a little more specific about that?
And also, how are you preparing for any pressures
that a hard Brexit would put on the U.S. dollar?
CHAIR POWELL.
Well, as I mentioned, you know, with the stress tests
that the largest financial institutions-and those are the
ones that tend to be active internationally-that they
undergo every year, we put them
through very large financial shocks with large losses
and big changes in markets every year.
And we vary that every year.
So that's a pretty good-you know,
having done that for a number of years now,
that's-and having them be required
to have adequate capital and liquidity even
after all that happens.
So that's a good thing to have done, knowing that you're going
into something that's quite unknown,
which may prove stressful, it may not prove stressful,
depending on what the outcome is.
So I think all that has probably prepared our institutions well.
That said, nothing like this has happened in recent years,
and so it's really hard to be confident.
So we're very watchful about what's going on.
NANCY MARSHALL-GENZER.
And as far as the dollar goes?
CHAIR POWELL.
So we don't-you know, we-the dollar is really the business
of the Treasury Department.
It's certainly a financial condition unto itself that plays
into our models, but we don't, you know, seek or model
or attempt to affect the dollar directly with our policies.
JOHN HELTMAN.
Hi. John Heltman-John Heltman with American Banker.
I have a question about the Fed's proposal from October
of last year regarding enhanced prudential standards
for banks above $250 billion.
Some analysts have suggested
that that proposal could encourage consolidation mergers
and acquisition among banks, particularly
at the upper end of the range.
I'm curious if the Fed anticipated that outcome
and whether you have any reservations
or whether you-the Fed cares
about bank consolidation more generally.
CHAIR POWELL.
We're not motivated by a particular view
of industry structure that we're trying to achieve
through our regulation.
I think we want to have banks of all different sizes
and with different business models out there carrying
out their functions in the economy.
So that's how we think about that.
I would also say, when banks merge and move
into a larger asset category, they get stronger regulation,
not weaker regulation.
So if you think about it, you know,
if you're a medium-sized bank and you merge
with another medium-sized bank, you wind up being more
than a medium-sized bank, you know.
But the sense of our tapering is that-"tailoring,"
sorry-our tailoring policy is
that the highest expectations fall upon the largest,
most systemically important, most complex institutions,
and then at every step along the way,
the expectations become more tailored to the risks
that that institution actually presents to the economy.
So- BRIAN CHEUNG.
Hi, Chair Powell.
Brian Cheung with Yahoo Finance.
Thanks for taking my question.
So as the Fed remains on pause,
does the central bank find the onus on fiscal policy
to extend its economic recovery and fend off a slowdown-as in,
is the Fed positioning itself to take on a reactionary role
to whatever fiscal policy is doing?
I'm asking because we're seeing the waning effect of tax reform
and no material news on infrastructure,
so just wondering kind
of how you feel the monetary policy-fiscal policy balance is
in swing right now.
CHAIR POWELL.
So we take-we take fiscal policy as, you know,
as exogenous to what we do.
You know, in other words, whatever happens
with fiscal policy, we take that.
We don't evaluate it, we don't criticize it,
and we don't overreact to it either.
So I think it's just a fact.
It's just an external fact about the economy for us.
I mean, our policy is-the reason we're on hold is
that we think our policy rate is in a good place,
and we think the economy is in a good place,
and we're watching carefully as we see these events evolve
around the world and at home,
and we think that's what we need to be doing.
STEVEN BECKNER.
Steve Beckner, freelance journalist reporting
for NPR, Mr. Chairman.
The Fed has been allowing the average maturity of securities
in its bond portfolio to lengthen.
Is this aimed at-consciously aimed
at flattening the yield curve, and is that going to be part
of the Fed's longer-run balance sheet strategy?
And if flattening the yield curve is a conscious long-term
strategy, are you concerned about the side effect
of the heightening concerns about a flatter
or inverted yield curve being a harbinger of recession?
CHAIR POWELL.
The basic answer to your question is "no."
We are-the decision about the maturity composition
of the Fed's balance sheet in the longer run lies ahead of us.
We have not made that decision,
and we're-we really haven't begun to have a serious series
of discussions over a series of meetings to grapple with that.
That, I think, will be something we turn to reasonably soon,
but I think it will take some time.
It's a consequential decision and one that needs some thought.
We've had a lot of balance sheet discussions, as I mentioned,
over the last four meetings,
but this is the next big one that-big decision
that we'll face.
And, you know, I think we're not going to be in a rush
to resolve it, but we'll turn to it soon.
STEVEN BECKNER.
Can I just follow up, please?
Well, how do you account for the fact
that the average maturity has in fact been lengthening
and contributing to a flattening of the yield curve?
Is that-what's-what's causing that?
CHAIR POWELL.
I think, isn't it just that as securities roll off,
you wind up investing in-you know, as a 10-year rolls off,
you wind up investing in a 10-year, and automatically
that lengthens things.
It's not at all a plan to lengthen the balance sheet.
It's just been-we try to have a practice
that we don't deviate from, and it's transparent,
and-no policy message in that.
JEAN YUNG.
Hi, Jean Yung with Market News.
I wanted to ask, at what point do you expect to begin
to allow the balance sheet to grow slowly again?
What are-how will you make that decision?
CHAIR POWELL.
So, as I-as I mentioned, the balance sheet runoff will stop
at about-at September 30.
And if it is our view at that time
that we're still a ways away from-a ways
above a balance sheet that is what we need to efficiently
and effectively conduct monetary policy,
at that time we will hold the balance sheet constant.
And then what'll happen is, organically, very gradually,
currency and other nonreserved liabilities will grow,
and reserves will shrink.
And the question you're asking is, how long will that go on?
The truth is, we don't know, and we don't really know
that we'll move past September 30th.
The level of reserve demand is something that we've put a lot
of effort and time into creating estimates,
based on market intelligence and surveys and that kind of thing.
The truth is, we don't know.
It may evolve over time.
So we'll just have to see.
I wouldn't want to put a time out there for that,
but-so I'll just leave it there.
COURTENAY BROWN.
Hi, Mr. Chairman.
Courtenay Brown from Axios.
Are you concerned at all what the market impact will be should
the Fed resume policy tightening somewhere down the line?
As I'm sure you know, the market listens
to you very, very closely.
CHAIR POWELL.
You know, I'm just going to say that I think we're
in a good place right now, which is, we're being patient,
we're watching, we don't see any data pushing us to move rates
in either direction, and we're going to watch carefully
and patiently as we allow events to evolve.
And when they do clarify, we will act appropriately.