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  • Claire Chang: "The more you wash your face, the better."

  • Ni'Kita Wilson: Oh, no.

  • No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

  • "You don't need to exfoliate." Pssh.

  • Chang: [laughs] Oh, man.

  • Wilson: Oh, I love this one.

  • Myth: "If you feel a tingling or burning sensation,

  • it means the product is working."

  • Chang: Oh, my gosh. I had to say, "No!"

  • when I saw this myth.

  • My name is Ni'Kita Wilson, and I'm a cosmetic chemist.

  • And my name is Dr. Claire Chang,

  • and we're here today to debunk

  • a few myths about skin care.

  • Wilson: Let's get started!

  • "Drinking extra water will make your skin look better."

  • Ooh, take it away, Dr. Chang.

  • Chang: Although drinking an adequate amount of water

  • is important for your overall health,

  • there's actually no scientific evidence

  • that drinking extra water goes straight to your skin

  • or that it can improve your skin hydration.

  • Excess water is most likely just filtered

  • out of your body through urine.

  • Wilson: I can personally attest to the extra water

  • just passing through.

  • Chang: Our next myth:

  • "Your skin will get used to the products you use,

  • and then they'll stop working."

  • Wilson: Oh, I love that one.

  • It's not a matter of your skin getting used to the products.

  • A product can only do but so much.

  • There comes a point where those ingredients have done

  • all they could possibly do for your skin.

  • Chang: If you've noticed a huge improvement

  • when you first started using a product

  • and then notice less improvement over time,

  • just like Ni'Kita said,

  • it may be because over time we reach a plateau

  • in which your skin's visibly improved,

  • and at this point the ingredients are still working,

  • but they're maintaining a new normal.

  • Wilson: "The order in which you use

  • your skin-care products doesn't matter."

  • Chang: Order definitely matters.

  • In general,

  • you should apply your products thinnest to thickest,

  • and those with the active ingredients should go on first.

  • Wilson: Agree 100%.

  • If you have a water-based serum,

  • it's going to be hard-pressed to fight its way

  • through those barriers that we created in the cream

  • in order to get into the skin to work.

  • So definitely thinner, more active first,

  • and then build up heavier later.

  • Chang: So, I recommend doing a cleanser first,

  • then a toner, essences or ampoules,

  • then do your thicker moisturizers and your creams,

  • then your facial oils,

  • then your sunscreen, and then your makeup.

  • Our next myth is, "Pores can get smaller."

  • Wilson: Oh, nope.

  • Your pores do not get smaller.

  • Chang: There is also a circulating myth going around

  • that cold water can shrink the pores,

  • but this is just a myth.

  • Wilson: Your pores are the same size.

  • What can happen is your pores could swell up,

  • you know, oil can bring dirt, debris,

  • dead skin cells can get in there and swell.

  • They get engorged, you know,

  • from all this stuff that gets stuck in there,

  • and then when they're cleaned out,

  • they just get back to the normal size.

  • But the walls can also get compromised,

  • and so they can kind of lean and become weak.

  • And that also could change the appearance

  • of how your pores look.

  • "You don't need to moisturize your face if it's oily."

  • Chang: This is definitely a myth.

  • There is a difference between skin oil and skin hydration.

  • So, skin hydration is the water content

  • or the moisture levels of the skin,

  • whereas skin oil is the sebum content.

  • So, sebum is secreted by your facial oil glands

  • or sebaceous glands,

  • and it helps protect the skin barrier.

  • But sebum can contribute to that oily, greasy look

  • on the face, so people don't like it.

  • The important thing to remember is

  • that oily skin can become dehydrated

  • and have a low water content,

  • so moisturizing is still important.

  • I advise that you use the right moisturizers,

  • oil-free moisturizers that are noncomedogenic.

  • Also look for lightweight lotions

  • rather than thicker creams.

  • The lotions have a higher water-to-oil content,

  • whereas creams have a higher oil-to-water content.

  • Most recently I've been using Sulwhasoo,

  • which is a Korean brand.

  • S U L W H A S O O.

  • Wilson: You didn't know this was going to be

  • a spelling bee too, did you?

  • Chang: "You don't need to wear sunscreen,

  • even when it's cloudy."

  • Wilson: You need to wear sunscreen when it's cloudy,

  • when it's sunny.

  • The only time you don't need to wear sunscreen

  • is when there is no sun. It's night.

  • Just because you can't see the sun,

  • the UV rays are still there.

  • They're still present.

  • And it's the UV rays that are doing the damage.

  • And it doesn't matter what your pigmentation load is,

  • you need sunscreen.

  • I recommend 30 and above,

  • because if you're using 15 and then using

  • a little bit, you're not going to get

  • the level of protection that you need.

  • "The more expensive the product,

  • the better it works."

  • Chang: Absolutely false.

  • Many of the products that I use

  • and that I recommend are very affordable

  • and found in the drugstore.

  • I say that the efficacy of the ingredients

  • and the formulation matter a lot more than the price.

  • Wilson: I agree.

  • You know, as a chemist,

  • I want you to buy the most expensive product we make.

  • [laughs]

  • But the reality is,

  • it really does get down to the ingredients

  • and what you're looking for.

  • You can go to the drugstore

  • and you can pick out really great products

  • that can really help you and really

  • make a difference in your skin care.

  • Chang: The next myth is,

  • "The more you wash your face, the better."

  • Wilson: Oh, no.

  • No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

  • Your face is not that dirty.

  • You know, you wash it in the morning, you wash it at night.

  • You don't have to overdo it.

  • Actually, the more you wash your face,

  • your skin could be worse off.

  • One, you are getting rid of the microbiome.

  • You're throwing that all off balance,

  • and when you do that,

  • you compromise your skin barrier,

  • and when your skin barrier is compromised,

  • that can lead to irritation, sensitivity.

  • Chang: Over-washing your face,

  • especially with harsh soaps or scrubs,

  • the ones with those beads in it,

  • can really dry out and irritate the skin.

  • I just recommend washing your face twice a day,

  • and then also after sweating heavily,

  • because sweat can clog the pores

  • and irritate the skin further.

  • Wilson: "You don't need to exfoliate." Pssh.

  • Chang: [laughs]

  • Oh, man.

  • Everyone can benefit from some gentle exfoliation.

  • Exfoliating can help renew and brighten your skin,

  • even your skin tone, de-clog pores.

  • It helps in anti-aging,

  • and it can actually improve the absorption

  • of other topicals you're putting on your skin.

  • Wilson: I love exfoliation.

  • I love it for every reason you just named.

  • And for me, again, because I have

  • very oily skin and acne-prone

  • and also hyperpigmentation, exfoliation really helps.

  • Chang: You're reminding me

  • I need to go exfoliate today. [both laugh]

  • If you're using a very gentle exfoliant,

  • you can do it every day.

  • If you tend to have sensitive skin

  • or you're using a higher concentration,

  • you might want to limit it to two times a week,

  • even one time a week,

  • and then if you're using in-office kind of chemical peels

  • and going to a facialist or your dermatologist,

  • you may want to limit it to every two to four weeks,

  • because they're using much higher concentrations

  • of chemical exfoliants.

  • Wilson: I can't end this without giving a shout-out

  • to Dr. Dennis Gross

  • and his AHA/BHA pad.

  • Beautiful, beautiful.

  • Chang: The next myth is,

  • "You need to use a lot

  • of skin-care products to get good skin."

  • Wilson: Again, as a cosmetic chemist,

  • I wish that were true.

  • You don't need to use a lot of products,

  • you just need to find the right products

  • that work for your skin needs.

  • Chang: Sometimes, actually, using too many products

  • can do more harm than good.

  • Wilson: Oh, I love this one.

  • Myth: "If you feel a tingling or burning sensation,

  • it means the product is working."

  • Chang: I had to say, "No!" when I saw this myth.

  • I was just like, "Ah!"

  • I always say actually your daily skin care

  • should typically not be uncomfortable at all.

  • And if it is,

  • it's a sign that your skin cannot tolerate the product.

  • Wilson: It's not always good to ask someone,

  • "What are you using?" and then go and buy it,

  • because your skin may not have the same tolerance level

  • as theirs, so you may have a different reaction.

  • Chang: And I know a lot of people who try to use

  • the best, the most effective ingredient,

  • and they try to kind of stand through it.

  • They want to persist because they want

  • to get their skin looking shiny and wrinkle-free.

  • But your skin, again, is different

  • from all of those people out there,

  • and it may not be able to tolerate it,

  • so you want to find the right product for you.

  • "Acne is only a problem during puberty."

  • Wilson: [laughs]

  • Can someone tell my skin that, please?

  • You could have not had acne during puberty,

  • and all of a sudden, as you enter 30s or 40s,

  • you all of a sudden start to get it.

  • You know, your hormones are changing,

  • and I'm a living, breathing testament

  • that that is not the case.

  • Chang: Adult acne may be persistent from puberty,

  • but a lot of times it's late onset

  • in patients who've never had acne before.

  • The reasons for acne in adulthood are genetics,

  • hormones, clogged pores, inflammation.

  • Stress can definitely worsen acne.

  • Certain diets can worsen acne, including, you know,

  • high-sugar, high-carb diets.

  • Pregnancy can sometimes trigger acne.

  • I definitely had acne during my pregnancy.

  • Cosmetics, too.

  • It's nice to really kind of localize where the acne is,

  • because those might be triggers

  • that you can remove

  • and see if your acne gets better

  • by removing those triggers.

  • You just want to be patient with it.

  • Remember that any treatment for acne

  • can take six to eight weeks to work,

  • so you just really want to stick to it,

  • unless of course you're getting that burning,

  • tingling, or irritation from it.

  • Wilson: "Dark undereye circles

  • are always due to a lack of sleep."

  • Chang: They can be actually due to

  • a lot of different issues,

  • and everyone's different.

  • So, sometimes it's due to lack of sleep and puffy eyes.

  • In other patients it might be due to,

  • you ate a salty meal the night before

  • or had some alcohol and it's causing swelling,

  • but it also may be due to genetics.

  • A lot of patients have dark undereye circles,

  • even since they were younger.

  • Allergies can also cause dark undereye circles,

  • so if your eyes are itchy

  • and you're rubbing it all the time.

  • Or, as we all mature,

  • we lose fat in our cheeks and our undereye area,

  • and that can create a contrast and a shadowing effect.

  • Wilson: Knowing the cause really is the key

  • to finding the best way to go about treating it.

  • Chang: The next myth is,

  • "You shouldn't use eye creams unless you have wrinkles."

  • Wilson: [sighs] No.

  • Actually, I know a lot of younger people

  • who are using eye creams as more of a

  • preventative measure, because they're trying

  • to prevent their skin from drying out.

  • They're trying to keep the skin elastic.

  • Chang: Ni'Kita, I think you said it beautifully:

  • Prevention is key in skin care,

  • and the eye area is often the first area

  • to show signs of aging.

  • Actually, late 20s, early 30s

  • is when you start losing collagen.

  • Wilson: I have to go tell my daughters

  • to start using a cream.

  • [both laugh]

  • Ha! "Serums and oils are a waste of money."

  • Chang: No!

  • Serums are actually what I spend the most money on.

  • Wilson: Right.

  • Chang: Serums are highly concentrated

  • with active ingredients like antioxidants

  • and hydrating factors that really benefit your skin.

  • Serums really are what's doing the brunt of the work.

  • Wilson: Agree 100%.

  • You can budget your cleanser.

  • You can budget your moisturizer and even your sunscreen,

  • but where you should think about spending

  • the bulk of your budget should be on the thing

  • that's going to give you the biggest treatment,

  • and that's the serum.

  • Chang: There's a huge range of skin issues

  • that serums can really help with.

  • Wilson: Ha! You can get rid of dark spots.

  • Chang: I do this every day at work.

  • Wilson: It takes time,

  • it takes discipline, and it takes you truly,

  • truly being committed to understanding the source

  • and why you're getting your dark spots.

  • Chang: Dark spots often have a component

  • of deeper pigment in the skin,

  • and that's where laser treatments come in.

  • Brown spots can always come back,

  • and you can get new brown spots.

  • So sunscreen is the most important thing you can do

  • to help prevent and treat dark spots.

  • Wilson: One thing about skin of color

  • is we were always told that, you know,

  • lasers are not good for our skin

  • because it'll end up causing more dark spots.

  • Have they improved the technology now

  • where somebody like me can come to you and say,

  • "Hey, Dr. Chang, how about these spots?"

  • Chang: It is true that skin of color

  • is a little bit more sensitive to laser,

  • and the reason is that there is more pigment

  • in patients in skin of color or darker skin tones.

  • There are resurfacing lasers that are lower in energy

  • and gentle but can help improve brown spots

  • over a series of treatments.

  • Wilson: I'll make an appointment with you

  • as soon as we wrap this up.

  • [both laugh]

  • What do we have here?

  • "Losing weight will help get rid of my cellulite."

  • Chang: Ah. So, cellulite,

  • it's one of the most common complaints I see,

  • but one of the most difficult to treat.

  • You have to remember that cellulite

  • is not just a condition of excess fat

  • or being out of shape, and, in fact,

  • I see cellulite in all weight groups.

  • We don't know exactly what causes cellulite,

  • but it can be associated with genetics, hormones,

  • and then lifestyle can also play a key component.

  • On a more biologic level,

  • cellulite is due to poor circulation,

  • it's due to inflammation, so, again,

  • a lot of reasons why people get cellulite.

  • Physical activity may actually help a little bit

  • with cellulite by increasing circulation and blood flow,

  • but weight loss in and of itself

  • may not improve your cellulite.

  • Wilson: When it comes to the beauty industry

  • and products to solve it, there's no silver bullet

  • in a cream or serum can give to you, and I've seen

  • some of the most in-shape women have cellulite.

  • Chang: "If you don't get eczema as a kid,

  • you won't get it as an adult."

  • Wilson: I don't believe that to be true. [laughs]

  • Chang: I actually just saw several cases

  • of new adult eczema patients this past week,

  • so it's very common.

  • Eczema is especially common in adults

  • who actually have work-related contact.

  • So healthcare workers, construction workers,

  • or hairdressers who wash their hands frequently

  • or come into contact with a lot of chemicals.

  • Eczema is managed primarily

  • by a really good skin-care routine.

  • Dry, irritated skin can make you more prone to eczema,

  • so you want to make sure you're hydrating

  • and moisturizing very frequently.

  • Wilson: "K-beauty only works for East Asian customers."

  • That's not how skin works.

  • Chang: K-beauty is definitely not just for Asian skin.

  • You have to keep in mind that

  • in terms of ethnicity, though,

  • there are slight differences in terms of pigmentation

  • and moisture levels between ethnic groups.

  • The basic structure of the skin

  • and the aging processes that the skin goes through

  • is essentially the same,

  • no matter what your ethnicity.

  • Differences in distinct skin types,

  • oily skin versus dry skin versus sensitive skin,

  • is likely more significant than ethnicity

  • when it comes to skin care.

  • Wilson: I created my products,

  • and I was looking at certain things.

  • Like, I know in Black skin,

  • the level of ceramides is lower than in any skin types,

  • so I include ceramides.

  • Overall, anybody can use the products.

  • If your skin doesn't need it, it won't use it.

  • If there's one thing people should take away

  • from all these myths, it's just know your skin.

  • I believe in having a relationship with your skin.

  • You know, you're in a relationship with another person,

  • you know what makes them happy.

  • You know how to push their buttons.

  • Have that same relationship with your skin,

  • and then a lot of these things you won't have to rely on.

  • You will know what works for your skin.

  • Chang: Be patient. Skin care always takes time.

  • And if you have any questions, feel free to reach out.

  • Ask your dermatologist or ask your physician.

  • Really just choose a good skin-care routine

  • that will take you over long term

  • and work well with your skin.

Claire Chang: "The more you wash your face, the better."

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