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  • another new leader in the UK Britain's third prime Minister in a year of political chaos, is now promising a new era of stability.

  • Former Finance Minister Rishi son today gained the backing of his Conservative Party to win the leadership of that party.

  • His predecessor Liz truss, she had to stand down when financial markets rejected her economic plans knocks first task will be to restore confidence in the UK government's finances.

  • Rishi, Sonar receives a warm welcome, he's cheered and greeted at the Conservative party headquarters, will take over the top job from less trust who quit just after a few weeks in office.

  • But sonic faces tough challenges such as tackling soaring energy and food prices and a deep political crisis.

  • He will be the third prime minister this year.

  • The United Kingdom is a great country but there is no doubt we face a profound economic challenge.

  • We now need stability and unity and I will make it my utmost priority to bring our party and our country together.

  • As Finance Minister earned praise for supporting the lead of workers and businesses during the pandemic.

  • But as one of the wealthiest politicians in the UK, he has also been criticized for his lavish lifestyle, especially at a time when ordinary people are struggling.

  • But Xanax victory is also historic.

  • He is the first British Prime Minister of South Asian origin.

  • He is also the first Hindu to become the country's leader and the youngest, the UK has seen in 200 years For more now I'm joined by Nicholas Allen, he's a professor of politics at the Royal Holloway University in London.

  • It's good to have you on the program with this.

  • Let me ask you, considering what we've seen in these past few months.

  • Is there reason to believe tonight that Rishi soon will be UK Prime Minister for longer than 45 days?

  • I think there's a good chance that he will last longer than this.

  • Trust.

  • It's almost impossible for him not to last longer.

  • I think the likelihood of him inflicting economic catastrophe on himself.

  • I don't think that's gonna happen.

  • So the the self inflicted problems that this trust brought upon himself that ended their premiership.

  • That's not gonna happen.

  • And the other thing that has to his advantage is I think the mps in the Conservative Party just know they are now in the last chance saloon and they'll give him a little bit of a ride, a little bit of an easy passage, at least to start with.

  • So, I think he should be on course to last a bit longer.

  • Can trust, you know, only seven weeks ago, Britain's conservatives.

  • They chose Liz truss over Rishi soon knock.

  • And yet at the time that he lost that race, he was warning that this mini budget which we know trust proposed could have dire consequences.

  • And that is exactly what happened.

  • He could have said today.

  • I told you so, but he did not.

  • What message does that send?

  • I think he has a difficult path to tread his criticisms of Liz Truss is economic policies, the program on which she was actually elected by Conservative Party members.

  • And he doesn't even need to point out that she got that wrong because everyone can see it.

  • And already the second chancellor that Liz truss appointed second Finance minister, jeremy Hunt reversed those policies.

  • So I think that doesn't need to say I told you so because everyone knows that he told us so.

  • So I think in that sense, in his pursuit of unity within the party, he can afford to speak very softly, shall we say in terms of criticizing his predecessor?

  • Yeah.

  • And pick up on the word ford son is fantastically wealthy.

  • He's one of the richest people in the U.

  • K.

  • Um he was involved in his own tax scandal earlier this year.

  • Is there going to be a large chasm for him to bridge between himself and ordinary britons right now.

  • Who many who are just struggling, you know, to deal with inflation.

  • I mean, first of all politicians, all conservative politicians are probably perceive more or less as being out of touch with ordinary voters.

  • So in a sense he's not in any different position to anyone else.

  • Clearly, his enormous wealth is something that his opponents might want to use to their advantage in terms of criticizing highlighting, highlighting his being out of touch but I don't think he per se is going to be any more out of touch with what voters think than sailors trust me, not least is he is a constituency mp.

  • He is expected and does keep in touch with his constituents and his constituency party.

  • So he's gonna have his finger on the pulse as much or as little as really any other Conservative Minister, Nicholas Allen, professor of politics at the Royal Holloway University of London, we appreciate your time and your insights tonight.

  • Thank you.

  • Well, for more now, I'm joined by roger Kassala, he's a former member of parliament for the Labor Party in the U.

  • K.

  • He now lives in Italy, roger.

  • It's good to have you back on the program.

  • It's good to see you again.

  • Let me ask you about what's happened here.

  • We've had three UK prime ministers in less than two months time.

  • We've had, I think, four finance ministers in four or five months.

  • I mean, it's been said this week that British politics now looks a lot like Italian politics.

  • You live in Italy now, what do you say about your home country from your vantage point?

  • Well, it looked good evening.

  • Very great to see you.

  • Yeah, it looks like old style italian politics, but new style of italian politics seems to be much more stable.

  • So you say, four finance ministers, three Prime ministers, don't forget Britain has also had to monarchs in the last two months and it's had the mother of all financial crisis.

  • And it's a very unusually volatile time for all of british institutions at the moment.

  • And I think that's phase people, it's it's very unusual and politics is it's not like bungee jumping.

  • You know, I think sometimes people think from the outside that's what it can look like.

  • You march your leaders up to the top of the platform and throw them off again and see what happens.

  • But of course people don't want that happening with their lives.

  • And I think that from the point of view of the public from the citizens of the U.

  • K.

  • It's a worrying time.

  • It's an anxious time.

  • Very very unstable and they want their political leaders and they want the political system to get a grip.

  • I want to ask you about the incoming government legitimacy.

  • First take a listen to what your former party, the opposition Labor Party, what they're saying about this incoming government.

  • Take a listen everybody I've spoken to the public have said we should be having a general election.

  • There is no mandate.

  • Now the conservatives are completely broken, their promises broke our economy and now they want to see a general election.

  • They can't just keep doling out Prime ministers every month because they're in total chaos and they've lost control of the market and haven't got any ideas of how they're going to tackle the cost of living that people are facing.

  • I mean, she's very clear about where she stands, polls also show that a new election would be a disaster for the conservatives.

  • So it's not in their interest to call early elections, is it would it be in the country's interest?

  • Well, remember that when Gordon Brown took over from Tony Blair, there was not a general election.

  • So you don't have to have a general election when you change the Prime minister in the UK.

  • But you can see the argument for it, given the situation that we're in and the fact that we've had so many changes of prime minister.

  • But the conservatives still have a big majority in the house of commons and they're not going to go to the pole to the polls, call another election when the polls put labor so far ahead.

  • And the problem that she said, it's not just about its legitimacy is political legitimacy.

  • It's also about the credibility of the conservatives.

  • And that's what he wants to re establish first.

  • They the conservatives economic credibility, its reputation for being competent with the economy has been completely shattered and Russia sooner will try to rebuild that.

  • But in rebuilding that I think there is a danger for him in that he he will espouse very difficult economic measures and that will bring further unpopularity.

  • So, I think what will happen is that he will continue through to 2024 then probably the next occupant of Downing Street will be the leader of the Labor Party, keir Starmer because the tough they're unpopular at the moment and the policies that we will have to adopt to re establish the credibility and the and to make the economy work, will be unpopular.

  • We've heard from leaders across europe that what's most important is for stability to be restored in the UK.

  • We heard that from the president of France just a couple of days ago, would Prime Minister, um is he going to be the the person who can do that?

  • Is he going to be the right partner for europe?

  • Well, that is well, that's what he's going to try to do.

  • Uh and I expect that's what he will do and it won't make him popular.

  • I think as far as europe is concerned, I'm glad you mentioned the european issue because that I think probably enough is at the heart of the problems that the Conservative party is facing the Britain is facing today because your viewers will know that the referendum took place a long time ago and they will say, well, why people still talking about Brexit and they're not really still talking about Brexit.

  • But Brexit isn't really done.

  • The Conservative Party has got to articulate a vision for Britain's future post Brexit.

  • And it has been unable to do that.

  • And there are two contrasting views within the Conservative Party about what that vision for Britain's future looks like.

  • On the one hand, those so called Singapore, on the thames very free market view that Liz truss and her supporters had, which has been jettisoned now has been seen off because that was an absolute disaster.

  • And on the other hand, the view that perhaps was more Boris johnson, some people around Boris johnson that you needed to focus on the domestic economy.

  • And I think she has got a difficult job to tread a middle way and to restore the credibility of the economic credibility of the conservative government while managing these contrasting tensions within the Tory party about what a post Brexit Britain should look like.

  • And I think it's very difficult to see how you can resolve those tensions.

  • Yeah.

  • And you know what you're describing here is that maybe the curse of Brexit, which you discussed with me many times, going all the way back to that referendum back in 2016.

  • Roger Castle is always good talking with you.

  • We appreciate your time tonight.

  • Thank you.

  • Thank you.

  • Ben.

another new leader in the UK Britain's third prime Minister in a year of political chaos, is now promising a new era of stability.

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