each other or make interpretations of characters and events questionable.

At the center of it now is the Warriors family tree, a mishmash of nearly everything we've

ever heard even passively about character relations in the series.

Today I will be methodically going through the family tree on the Warriors Website and

discussing every case where the relation put forward is not established within the canon

of the books.

If a relationship you find on the family tree is not mentioned, that is probably because

it is confirmed somewhere in the books...or because it wasn't on the family tree yet

when this video was made.

Just in case, here's a picture of the whole family tree as I see it for you to compare

against.

I will declare vehemently, and repeatedly if necessary, that the Family Tree on the

website is not itself a source for what is canon.

It takes its own information from other places, both the books and the Warriors Wiki which

has, at different periods, included information from author chats, facebook messages, the

warriors app, and other sources outside of the books.

These decisions could easily be changed or contradicted in the blink of an eye if the

team behind Warriors ever decided to write something new in their books, so they carry

very little weight.

It is also often the case that, when single people make off handed comments, little to

no thought is put into the wide-reaching consequences of those decisions, so it can create bad impressions

of the characters we know that wouldn't have to exist if more thought was put in.

The only remotely concrete information we have is what is said somewhere in the published

texts, and so that is the standard by which I will judge this family tree.

That isn't to say that information in the books can't provide bad implications too,

but it is less likely to be contradicted in future material, as it was agreed upon by

the team behind the books.

In addition, because the wiki has begun to cite the family tree in place of the original

source, and since the family tree appears to pull from the wiki, we can get something

of a cyclical canon where it is difficult to tell what is true and what came from where.

This is why I feel it is important to parse everything out now.

Having tons of interweaving relations is great for making a visually appealing family tree,

but it can be detrimental when it comes to writing an ongoing story over many generations,

where the characters need to keep interacting and becoming mates.

But let it be known before we begin that you are allowed to take any of these relations

as canon for your own projects or in your own head to establish more relations with

relevant characters.

I would just avoid using them in arguments, because they are not as set in stone as one

would prefer to have in their evidence, and you should definitely not get upset with anyone

who doesn't take these relations as canon, as the strength of these sources is more a

matter of opinion than anything else.

I'll be taking these additions clan by clan to keep it from becoming too chaotic, and

because it has by far the most focus in both the series and the family tree, I will begin

with Thunderclan.

First of all, Oakstar is listed as Fallowsong's sibling, and even the warriors wiki says this

is a mistake and it is his mate Sweetbriar who is supposed to be her sibling.

However, even that relationship was never established in the books.

This one is from Facebook, something that you will notice is a theme throughout a lot

of these.

While we did know that Windflight's father was previously a Windclan cat, his name, Eaglestorm

was never said in the books.

This is also from Facebook, a fan's interpretation on Vicky's page.

Also on facebook came more information about Windflight, like him being the mate of Rainfur

and therefore the father of Thrushpelt, Dappletail, and Tawnyspots.

Since Windflight already had a different canonical mate, Poppydawn, and three kits through her,

adding these additional three kits has huge potential to muddy up the family tree.

For example, with this information, Thrushpelt and Thistleclaw are half-brothers, making

Thrushpelt and Bluestar sibling-in-laws.

Dappletail is said to be Runningwind's mate, and they were said to have two kits, Featherkit

and Cricketkit, but none of these are relationships you could have gleaned from the books.

It was, once again, all from a particular fan on Vicky's facebook.

While we all now know, thanks to Graystripe's Vow, that Willowpelt is indeed somehow Graystripe's

mother, we do not know his father and we do not know that Darkstripe is also her son.

This information came from Victoria Holmes, along with attempts to make Willowpelt and

Patchpelt, siblings, mates, and attempts to make Tawnyspots her mate when he had died

before she got her warrior name.

This is a great example of how off-the-cuff author statements aren't always thought

through.

Nearly all of Patchfoot's family came from out of the books.

Being the mate of Robinwing and Goldenflower, and having Longtail, Swiftpaw, and Lynxkit

as kits all comes from Facebook again.

Lynxkit didn't exist anywhere in the books, and without this information Longtail and

Swiftpaw (along with Bramblestar and Tawnypelt) are no longer siblings, or related in any

way.

Harepounce and Stagleap being mates also originates, say it with me, in Vicky's facebook.

Speckletail and Smallear being mates, and Smallear being the father of Lionheart, Goldenflower,

Snowkit, and the otherwise unnamed Mistlekit, was an invention of Vicky's.

And here we come to one of the most famous examples.

Whitestorm's supposed second mate, Brindleface, and his fatherhood over Ashfur, Ferncloud,

and the otherwise nonexistent Tulipkit and Elderkit, is all unconfirmed in the narrative.

Once again, this is information given on facebook by Vicky and the fan.

The family tree also lists Redtail as Brindleface's mate, a relic from the time where Vicky suggested

they were Sandstorm's parents.

That relationship has been discarded but they are still listed as mates on the official

family tree.

And, in what I'm sure is a shocking twist for some of you, Dustpelt being the kit of

Robinwing and Fuzzypelt, and the brother of Ravenpaw, Frostfur, Chestnutkit, and Cherrypaw,

is all also a facebook invention that was never mentioned in the books.

This was previously the case for Ravenpaw as well, but Graystripe's Vow went in to

make that retconned relationship official.

Firestar and Princesses other siblings, Filou, Tommy, and Luna, were named by the facebook

fan on Vicky's page, and the same is true for Princess's mate, Oliver, and Cloudtail's

siblings: Livy, Namy, Zack, and Taylor.

And finally for Thunderclan, Hollyleaf and Fallen Leaves are not mates.

The books never say they were mates; they did not ever tell each other they love each

other.

Fallen Leaves expresses fondness for Hollyleaf at her death but not to her face and if there

was any love there, it was one-way.

Even outside of the books Victoria Holmes has said she isn't sure if they would be

mates in Starclan.

This one is just from the family tree based mostly on the fact that Fallen Leaves was

the only tom, outside her own family, that Hollyleaf was close to in her life.

Now it is time for Shadowclan.

Darkflower and Scorchwind being mates and having Rowanstar, Cedarheart, and the otherwise

nonexistent Lavenderkit is a facebook retcon.

In the books, Rowanstar and Cedarheart are not given any official relation as brothers

or otherwise.

The names of Yellowfang and Raggedstar's other two dead kits, Wishkit and Hopekit,

were given by Vicky in a letter, but not shown in the books.

Finchflight and Dawncloud being mates and being the parents of the otherwise unnamed

Swampkit and Blossomkit is another relationship designed by the fan on Vicky's facebook.

This fan also introduced the relationship between Ashheart and Cinderfur that created

three otherwise unknown kits, Turtlekit, Rubblekit, and Quietkit.

And we're done with Shadowclan!

*Much* faster than Thunderclan, right?

Get used to that.

It's not that there are fewer errors in non-Thunderclan clans, but simply that we

know about far, far more relationships in Thunderclan than anywhere else.

So now, let's move onto Windclan.

Cloudrunner being Morningflower's mate and the father of Stormkit, Quailkit, and Gorsepaw

was information given by the same fan.

Shrewclaw and Ryestalk being the parents of Mudclaw and Tornear was a reveal on Vicky's

facebook.

A lot about Onestar's family was never established in canon.

Him and Whitetail being mates and also the parents of Heathertail are both facebook inventions,

along with himself, Ashfoot, and Morningflower being siblings and the kits of Stagleap (a

different one than in Thunderclan) and Wrenflight.

Ashfoot and Deadfoot did have other unnamed kits besides Crowfeather, but we don't know

how many, their genders, or their appearances except by information from the fan on facebook,

which left us with Eaglekit, Downkit, and Hillkit.

Now it is time for Riverclan: Fallowtail and Cedarpelt are indeed littermates,

but their third sibling, Marshcloud, very well might not be.

Marshcloud didn't appear at all in any book other than the allegiances of Tallstar's

Revenge, so he barely even exists.

The only reason he is said to be related to Fallowtail and Cedarheart is because of a

Facebook post from Kate Cary, one of the ghost writers.

Applefrost, Shyheart, and Willownose, listed on the tree as Appledusk and Reedshine's

kits, aren't confirmed to exist at all within the books.

That couple definitely did get together and had kits, but the story in Mapleshade's

Vengeance didn't go on long enough to show us how many kits there were or what their

names or genders were.

And all we know about Shellheart's mother from Crookedstar's Promise is that she was

one of these kits, however many there were.

These warriors were named and declared as part of the family by Victoria Holmes in a

letter to a fan.

Mosspelt is confirmed to be Willowshine's mother, however her mate being Frogleap and

her having Dawnflower as a second daughter are both inventions from the fan on Vicky's

facebook page.

Blackclaw being Mistystar's mate and the father of her kits, including Reedwhisker,

came again from the same fan on facebook.

And last, and certainly with the least problems, Skyclan, where the only issue is Sharpclaw.

His family isn't spoken of much in the books.

He mentions that he has a mother a couple times, but not her name or anything about

her.

However, the family tree says that his mother was named Jessamy and he had a sister called

Flower, both pieces of information pulled from the Warriors app.

You may have noticed as I went through each of these that less errors began appearing

as we crept further and further into the modern day.

This is no coincidence.

Since the first arc ended, and the Erins considered themselves to have a real, long, ongoing series

rather than a single short arc, they started to care far more about the familial and personal

relations they established, especially in the protagonists' clans.

This level of care does prevent us from guessing retroactively who certain characters' mates

or parents were, but it also leads to far more crossbreeding among the clans, and a

world where nearly every cat is related to each other in a way that isn't conducive

to having more relationships between these cats in the future.

It is a give and take, but the information is out.

All I really want to do with this video is take away a sliver of the misinformation,

so we can all proceed with equal knowledge of what the books tell us.

Thank you for watching, and always remember, to take your sources with a grain of salt.