Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles This video topic was picked out by my patrons, and suggested originally by Herriberri (apologies if I mispronounced that) who pointed out that A Vision of Shadows is an arc I really haven't covered much on the channel…which is true, but uhhh maybe this video will explain why. A Vision of Shadows is not my favorite arc…on some days it is my least favorite arc, tossing that position back and forth with The New Prophecy, and while I have several qualms with it, the primary thing that prevents A Vision of Shadows from being in any way appealing to me is the characters. I have my gripes with how the main characters were constructed, some of which I've talked about before, and also how the support characters like Needletail, Finleap, or Jayfeather are handled in this arc but the biggest problems come in the background cast where they simply cease to exist at all. With all of the newest arcs, there has been a trend of more background characters being pulled up for a single line, a short scene, or maybe even a part of a book when a character is needed but then thrown back out immediately after their utility is gone, creating very disjointed clans full of nobodies who mainly just fulfill the purposes of being mean to or oppositions for our point of view characters. This is especially true with any characters who were specifically born at the end of or after Omen of the Stars, but even some of the older characters who were less prominent are shoved into obscurity of different levels and often stripped of any notable personality or relationships they had before. I really hate this, on a personal level. I am someone who mainly goes into fiction looking for characters I can understand and see grow and relationships between those characters that I can feel happy to see flourish. Refusing to flesh out characters to any extent and instead slotting their names into lines you need at random prevents any of that from occurring, and it is made even worse when, to fuel the plots, most of the lines you slot them into are derisive, cruel, and / or illogical. It ends up feeling like the clans are filled to the brim with mouse-brained jerks who serve no purpose other than to make us pity the protagonist for having to deal with them. Here I am showing lists of every Thunderclan, Shadowclan, and Skyclan cat born or introduced at the very end of Omen of the Stars or during the A Vision of Shadows period. I'm focusing on these to give a fair shot in just showing clans we have points of views in at some point. Immediately you can see the first problem: too many stinkin' cats. There was already a big kit boom at the end of Omen of the Stars and in between that arc and A Vision of Shadows, but this arc also opens us up to points of view in three clans instead of one. Inevitably only some of the cats are going to be able to get much focus. And just as a fun piece of evidence, here they are in order of how many lines they have. Of course we have the protagonists and the closest support characters who get higher counts, but after three or four top characters, no one manages to get even 50 lines across all six books in the arc, and before long every clan gets into the single-digits, a problem especially prevalent in Thunderclan where tons of new characters were born or carried over from the end of the last arc without being given any time or focus in this new story. Even many of those who *are* prominent in this arc will practically disappear in next arcs while only a few of the currently-obscure cats will ever be given prominence in the future, let alone consistent prominence. Now, if any of the lines these background characters get are intentional or added to an overall picture the authors themselves note down about who these cats are, then no matter how long it takes, characters will eventually form. However, Warriors is and always has been a series written by the seat of the Erins' pants, and their deadlines and lack of a series bible force them to instead assign random lines or roles to whatever character wins the lottery in one chapter and let them go in the next. That makes it very hard to do a deep dive of, say Dewnose in the way I would for Hazeltail or Thornclaw, but it is what I have promised so let's at least give a couple of these cats a try. I'm going to randomize which cats I actually cover for each clan, discounting everyone with more than a hundred or less than five lines just to give these guys a chance. So first up…looks like Grassheart! She was Tawnypelt's apprentice during Bramblestar's Storm but is introduced as a queen in the second book of this arc. Several characters mention her and her kits without her being on screen. However, she gets two full lines in this book: one asking who Alderpaw is and one telling Violetkit that she has never seen her kit, Snakekit, so ill. Her kits become apprentices, also with no word from her, and she returns to warrior duties in time for the Shattered Sky…where she is mentioned exactly once by Darktail when he asks Rain for an assessment of her talent, which was that she wasn't the greatest fighter but not likely to be a traitor to the Kin. Onto Darkest Night! Here she uh…watches a speech from Rowanstar, suggests that they send out a search party to look for the six-toed cat, exchanges glances with Stonewing in a sign of distrusting Rowanstar, suggests the exact same search party again, blames Scorchfur for driving Rowanstar away, presses around her kits with Stonewing who is now confirmed to be her mate for the first time ever, suggests Shadowclan get supplies from their old camp before moving to Skyclan, cheers Violetshine's warrior name along with the clan, and finally questions why Berryheart and Yarrowleaf haven't returned to the clan. Already we're seeing the results of haphazardly assigning lines to cats, as this book's meager pickings for her have had her be both for and against Rowanstar as a leader. Even in this *very* small number of lines, she already has inconsistency, and certainly no depth. This continues in River of Fire where she starts by demanding an answer as to what Twigpaw is doing there, though she does accept Violetshine. Later she and Strikestone run into Thunderclan and ask for Hawkwing because the missing Shadowclan cats have returned and even later she gets her fourth and final line explaining that they're going to the Moonpool where Tigerheart was taken. Finally, in The Raging Storm, she and Strikestone watch the Gathering with neutral expressions, she goes on a patrol, and Violetshine thinks about her being caring if not motherly when she was a kit. Grassheart gets attacked twice by Leafstar before and after she calls to retreat and runs away. Medicine cats are mentioned to be treating her wounds a few times and she says it hurts. Much later, she says that a Shadowclan warrior would never poison someone because they settle arguments with claws like warriors. She also defends Tigerstar for wanting to keep their land to protect Shadowclan. She and Snaketooth escort Alderheart to the border when her wound heals and she notices that Tigerstar looked angry with Alderheart and checks in on him…and that's everything she does in the arc. Her main role is as a mother, a sub-par warrior, and a patient so there's not a lot to go on beyond the stock Warriors she-cat characterization. She also never interacts with her former mentor Tawnypelt, here or in Bramblestar's Storm, so it's impossible to say what that relationship was like. It is probably true that she likes her mate and kits and she appears to be at least friendly with Strikestone as well, in a single book. Her values, though, are very difficult to pin down thanks to the contradictions and the best I can say is that she probably believes in fights solving problems to some degree. She at least has an implied relationship with Alderheart after he treated her for so long but how that changes her perceptions of other clans or what either of them honestly feel about each other beyond generic thanks is completely unknown. Mostly, she's just she-cat: there to provide kits, fill in background space, and expound on the current plot details we need to notice when her name is selected from a hat. Keep in mind, she's also one of the more prominent cats on this list, about average. This is just what A Vision of Shadows tends to give its characters. As Skyclan's representative, the randomizer has given me Nectarpaw: a kit born in Hawkwing's Journey who is an apprentice when she's introduced in Darkest Night. Her first appearance is, in fact, being introduced by Nettlesplash, her father. Later she and a bunch of other apprentices go on a patrol to the twolegplace and she gets her first two lines encouraging Violetpaw to climb a tree while the other apprentices stay down and telling her not to listen to Gravelpaw, who already thinks he's a warrior. Later it is noted that both Nectarpaw and Fringepaw have “lost their shyness” and become more friendly with their new denmate: Violetpaw, though I can't help wishing we ever saw any evidence of this. We also learn in passing that Nectarpaw had, at one point, wandered too close to a twoleg patrol and been saved by Molewhisker. She gets excited when they approach the lake, though that quickly drained into hunger, that they relieved by going hunting with Gravelpaw and Nettlesplash, and that's the last thing she does in the book. In River of Fire, she unfortunately only appears in the allegiances, but in The Raging Storm, she is seen practicing battle moves with Pigeonpaw, defends Shadowclan by saying they didn't invade Skyclan, collects and weaves tendrils into a den with Sunnypaw and Nettlesplash, gets excited about an announcement from Leafstar about whether or not they'll leave the lake with some other apprentices, asks Harrybrook how far the journey to the gorge will be, gets worried for Sunnypaw when she gets stuck in some mud and quickly finds a stick to help in the rescue, and soon she and all the apprentices decide that they only want to live at the lake where they were born. In two more instances, she helps out with creating and reinforcing nests and her last action is being injured, getting a twisted paw that causes a brief limp. Nectarpaw, in the three books of this arc she appears in, is exactly what I would prefer from a background character. I would *like* it if her friendship with different cats had more confirmation but she clearly cares a lot for and spends time with Sunnypaw and Gravelpaw as well as being friendly with every apprentice, can be pretty excitable but also tires and gets frustrated easily like you'd expect of a young kid, and seems to be taking on a secondary hobby of seeking out information on and taking part in the building aspect of dens and nests. I couldn't tell you any of this was intentional, but it was consistent and these are elements that could be taken and expanded on if a story focused on her more closely. Of course, being in Skyclan where none of the protagonists had to be bullied by them might have helped in that. Anyway, having said that, let's move onto our third kitty cat, the Thunderclan representative. For this one, the randomizer has selected…oh no. Uh, Stormcloud. Okay so if Grassheart showed how most fully-background cats are handled, thoughtlessly, and Nectarpaw showed what can happen when a background character is given more than the average, Stormcloud is what happens when a cat who already had interesting characterization is actively shoved into the background. Stormcloud, if you aren't familiar, was once a kittypet named Frankie who came with Minty and Jessy to Thunderclan during the flood in Bramblestar's Storm. They were all kittypets who had lost their homes and, in Frankie's case, he lost his brother Benny as well. By the end of the story, Minty wanted to get back to her plush kittypet home and Jessy didn't find anything in clan life she couldn't already get elsewhere but Frankie decided to stay in Thunderclan and became Stormpaw, then Stormcloud, apprenticed to Squirrelflight until he took up the duties of a full Thunderclan warrior. That is an incredibly unique and interesting backstory. So what does he do here, in his first main series arc? Well in the first book, he only appears in the allegiances. In the second, he goes on a patrol and helps to track down the rogues in Shadowclan. In the third book, he visits the medicine den, guiltily because of how many cats are injured, with some insomnia and breathing problems, and says he misses Purdy. He mentions he never had to put up with any of this when he was a kittypet, but though he believes in what Thunderclan stands for, he's worried there won't be any clans at all soon. He exists for this one scene in this one chapter and not ever in the rest of the book. So in the fourth book, he's one of three cats to run past Brackenfur when some rock falls into camp. In the fifth book, he and Leafshade check on a fire near Skyclan and he mentions this is just like old times, referring to the flood in Bramblestar's Storm. He later spends one line imploring Bramblestar to take in Velvet and Fuzzball since taking in him didn't go badly. And finally, in his last chance, the sixth book…he only appears in the allegiances again. A total of one scene and two one offhand comments across this arc bring up Stormcloud's past to involve him at all and he never grows beyond being the cat he was in Bramblestar's Storm. How is he adjusting to Thunderclan? Who knows! Does he have any friends? Who knows! Does he have any hobbies or thoughts about his past life? Who knows! This is the case that actually gets me the most annoyed since they didn't have to come up with anything. Stormcloud, a brand new character with tons of unique qualities, was right there for you. You just had to use him and you didn't. You didn't use *most* of the resources you had for characters. Whether because of the larger cast, the new team, lack of time, an adherence to the plot, a need to give the protagonists enough detractors, or some combination, background characters in this arc were given little to no interest, and sometimes actively kept away from the interest they had before…which might explain why I haven't done many videos on them. It's entirely possible that I'll try to do a more thorough dive of a support character in A Vision of Shadows one day, one that the narrative cared about for at least some amount of time, and at some point I might try to write a more holistic story for one of these cats using every piece of their life, not just the scraps A Vision of Shadows gives them, but I don't want to confine myself to this period for much longer. It's a dark place to live, where no one cares about developing relationships and the community that had begun to peek through in the past three arcs is shredded into dust for the sake of providing a hostile environment for our protagonists to traverse. As with any arc, or any character in Warriors, you can always go back to revamp things yourself and make a story you feel proud of…but for A Vision of Shadows, I don't imagine I'll be the one to do that work. Thank you for watching, and always remember to keep track of every detail of who your characters …huh. That's funny. I forgot what I was saying. Well, it was probably nothing important.
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