Lisa doesn't like it when the audience is laughing at something.

It's something she's said, like you're you would say something and it would get a big laugh and it would irritate you because they were laughing for too long.

It wasn't that funny.

That's why it wasn't an honest response.

And it irritated me.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like now you're just ruining the timing of the rest of the show.

I mean, there are other lines.

I didn't say it.

Sometimes I would just look out.

They've been laughing too long.

And sometimes I would just look out and go, come on.

Really angry.

I can see that.

I can see. But I understand.

But no, part of I would happily let those laughs splash along because because a TV show is not for the studio audience.

It's made for.

The TV viewers at home, so.

That's who we're in service to, right?

If it were a stage play, yeah, laugh as long as you want.

I'll figure out things to keep my character busy, right?

Waiting to continue with it.

That's fine.

You know, but then it's being filmed.

And now I'm just sort of like standing there and then you do like things that you hate, you know, just like, no, that's right.

I said that, you know.

It's terrible.

I think they instructed our audience not to do anything like that. Right. Yeah.

I like I like a warm up person who tells the crowd, don't laugh.

Well, oh, we did so many takes.

They did stop laughing. Yeah.

Which then made the writers think, all right, it doesn't work.

It's like, oh, it worked. It worked the first time.

And then, all right, well, let's come and come up with alternates.

Right. We took six to eight hours to shoot a half hour.

But all I knew was you're going to take the laugh track from the first take anyway and move it to whichever take this is.

So what's who who's suffering because they're not laughing?

I'm OK if they're not laughing as hard.

We can keep going. Right.

Yeah, I don't know.

But it wasn't up to me. Yeah.

Because I was just an actor on a show.

When you see a friend's on, does that affect you in any way or is it just.

Well, I used to not be able to watch it at all.

I mean, I'd see it on and be like mildly interested, and then I'd see me and say, that's enough of that. I can't bear it.

And then, well, listen.

After Matthew died, I could start watching the show again because it wasn't about me.

It had to do with him for some reason.

And so I have started watching Friends, not started like season one.

And, you know, but there are marathons on.

And I have spent at times since he died all day long watching the show.

It's interesting.

Now you can see and you you can enjoy the show.

You can enjoy Matthew.

You can enjoy what he's doing.

Everyone is phenomenally hilarious to me.

You started doing that show and you called me up.

You would you would you would.

I don't have an eye for what's going to be a hit.

Well, I want to say that.

No, no, no. That was nothing like that. OK.

You called me up and you were raving about Matthew, about Matthew.

And you were saying he's so funny.

And there was part of me.

I like there was part of me that was jealous.

Like I was I was OK. Yeah.

I make you laugh pretty hard.

And you were like, you know, you don't stand.

This guy's really.

No, I wasn't. No, no, no, no, no.

You weren't. But I'm just saying it's it's I think that's human.

Is it? But I was just surprised you classified it as part of you was jealous.

Yeah. Instead of the entire.

What I meant, I was excluding bone.

Like bone and sinew.

But my entire spirit, I see.

No, there was part of me that was just like that.

And then I was watching him and going, yeah.

Yeah. Well, no, because I mean, you are.

I the funniest person I know.

No, no, no. That's not what this is about.

One of the funniest people I know.

Well, now it's hard to hear.

Yeah, but it is true. That's just a fact.

But I was so he was such a huge.

I thought that Chandler character, when I read it and I went, oh, they have a gay character, that's good.

I thought that's that's all I heard.

That's all I heard, you know.

And so at the table read,

I just did a double take at him.

Oh, my God.

That I never even in a million years could have envisioned anyone.

Playing the character like that and with his own rhythm and everything, it's his own impeccable timing and impeccable timing, but also just I mean, honest to God, shooting that those titles in the fountain was a nightmare.

You know, I don't like discomfort, but at all mild any kind.

I don't like it. Right.

And that fountain was cold.

And it was very late at night.

We'd done, I think, 500 takes of dancing.

Unmotivated dancing is hard to write.

That's just it's hard.

When one's in a fountain, one does dance.

A bunch of young New Yorkers are in a fountain, they dance, you know, and then the hey, what if you play with that scarf, you know, stuff and you just get like, no, I don't want it's not funny.

I don't want you know, I was a real joy, but and it was so cold and we had to keep doing it.

And Matthew and they said, we're going to do one more take.

And he said, one more.

OK, can't remember time I wasn't in a fountain.

Seriously, have you can't remember a time I wasn't wet?

What are we wet?

What are we wet in a fountain?

What are we dancing in a fountain?

Yeah, I mean, and this is before the show has even come on.

Right. So that's also important to know is no one's a star.

And it wasn't in they hadn't written him like that yet.

Yeah. And I don't know when I've laughed so hard just.

And and so I'm not kidding.

You see us laughing. Yeah.

And it's because he had just said, all right, ready?

We're going to go again. What are we going in again?

Are we going to do it again?

And just laughing, hysterically doubled over.

And that's in the titles.

He came on our show not long after that and showed up early.

And so we got to hang around and talk to him.

And he was so.

Excited, they had just shot the episode with Jill Goodacre, where he's trapped in a yeah, in a ATM vestibule vestibule with with with Jill Goodacre, and I just wanted to say vestibule.

I remember the word. Sorry.

Go on. I'm ruining your time. No, but.

Oh, let's bring it on.

Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum.

Blood pressure, Pauling.

Years being added to my life because of unmotivated laughter.

So he was on talk about Joe.

No, we were. Yeah, this wasn't even on TV.

We were just in the outside and 30 in the sixth floor.

And he was just so filled with joy and excitement.

And he was saying, and I got to shoot the scene with Joe Goodacre.

Joe Goodacre, she's beautiful.

And I was like, this sounds he was like, it's all going so well.

And things as everything plays out, it's terrible, terribly, terribly sad.

But I, you know, and I just have this tiny, tiny fraction of moments here and there with him.

But I inevitably go back to those moments where, yeah, he was, you know, at the wedding and early on and when I would see him and he was just so happy, so talented.

So, I mean, yeah, that's a little bit of a a blessing is when you can go back and see that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, and also, look, that was everyone was so excited.

And I think for some people.

And he was definitely one of them.

It's it's oh, my God, this would be really good.

Everything will be fixed now.

You know, yeah, that's not how it goes.

Well, we've seen that a lot, which is if people take and I try to.

Well, I think I bring this up a lot, but I think there's

I've seen a lot of people become famous or get famous or start in a certain place.

And I've had an interesting vantage point on it.

And what I've seen time and time and time again, which I wish I could tell people is there's a lot that's kind of nice.

That is nice about being successful.

And that's nice about having someone be happy to see you.

It doesn't fix anything.

Something is broken.

If something is cracked or something needs mending, it will not fix any of that.

In fact, it probably hurts.

Yeah. And that is a disappointment and the rage.

Wait a minute. I got the thing I wanted.

Now I'm famous. I got the house.

I got the attention.

And yeah, why the fuck?

Isn't this fixed?

It's like, well, that's a whole that this has this is a clear broth.

This isn't going to do anything for that.

Yeah. I mean, I do feel that it's like because I remember thinking that before, you know, and I was struggling.

Having my ramen noodles every night, you know, everything and thought like someone I know like would become famous or something.

And I think, oh, God, see.

Yeah. Then if everyone loves you, then, you know, you'll give yourself you'll love you like without even realizing how sick that was.

It was like, yeah, that's what that's that's the healing power of fame.

And luckily, I had therapy before friends and did understand.

But I know it's at the root of all that is like, yeah, because if everything goes well and everybody loves me, then I will submit to loving myself, too.

And I think that's.

That's the problem.

I mean, I think we we think there's something shameful in loving yourself or there, you know, you're going to be an asshole if you do.

But that's not that's not what love is.

So I've got to go because I think I've just healed all of you.

You do blood pressure dropped.

You did 20 points just now.

You are. And you're welcome.

You are. There's all the things that people know about you being incredibly funny and brilliant and having this great just career.

I don't know that people understand how wise you are.

Of all my friends, which is fortunately for me, I know a lot of people.

I think you're one of the wisest people I know.

I'm serious. No, in terms of like.

In terms of getting in terms of just to just stop lying in terms of people, you've always been.

People and what life really is and what's important.

I think you're very gifted that way.

So I think we're going to end on that.

And thank you so much for coming in seriously.

And congratulations on the new show, because I love it.

And oh, good. Yeah, I.

The idea that these very impossibly cool guys called you up and said, we've always wanted to work with you.

You, Lise Kudrow, that's just it's so it makes perfect sense to me.

And it's very cool.

It was thrilling for me.

All right. Well, next time, come up with a better, you know, Conan O'Brien blank, you know, I'm perfectly happy.

Honored. Grateful, I said again about being Conan O'Brien's friend.

There you go. That's it.

With anger is the anger.