Thank you guys so much for having me.

Yeah, thank you so much for-

I'm sorry, I just interrupted you.

No, it's fine. I don't know how to host anyway.

My first time doing it in English-

Dude, shut the fuck up, man.

Stop lying to- Where's my camera? Stop lying to your fans, man.

Do you have to be like- Like, every time I say a statement, you're like, shut the fuck- That's bullshit. You're, like, opposing every single one of my takes on the world.

I'm sorry. Go, go, go, go. Say-

I think I'm a lousy host. You have a problem with that?

Yes, that's bullshit. You brought the Tonight Show in Taiwan, and that's, like, the ultimate host thing.

The first season is so cringe. I go back and watch it.

Like, I want to make reaction videos to my old, like-

Oh, you didn't do that?

No, I wanted, because it's so good.

The only thing I find funny is not the jokes.

The thing that's funny is how bad I was, and still, like, pull off this confidence.

What do you think you did bad on the thing?

Okay, so the year I started doing the Night Night Show was kind of like my first to second year in stand-up.

I had no skill set whatsoever.

Oh, it was your first, second year?

Yeah.

Bro, how-

I do not have jokes. I can't go off the cuff. I can't do anything.

I just want to let people know that it's impossible already to do, like, to organize a gathering, a family, but to have a band, and to have a space, and have, like-

But that's on me. That's the producer.

Oh, but you still have to, like, get the people to, you know what I mean, say the things.

I don't know. I feel like it's hard to, like, I guess approve things.

I feel like it's still impossible to get the thing and hosting it.

Our guest today needs, like, a proper introduction.

So Jason Chaney is the most successful Taiwanese comedian on this planet.

Yes, you are.

And we have been graced by his presence in Taiwan.

That's fucking bullshit, man.

He's come back and did, like, five smashing shows.

And what?

Nobody smashed anything, man.

Can you let me finish?

Okay, man.

Last night, I said something, like, from the bottom of my heart.

I do feel like I owe a lot, a huge part of my career, especially, like, my touring in the States to you, because you are the one of two recommendations.

Yeah, but you could have gotten-

But what for you? No.

You could have asked another person.

No, I couldn't.

Yeah, you could have asked, like, you know, like, I'm sure you have relatives in-

I don't, no.

No?

They need someone, like, in the industry.

Yeah, I'm very important.

Yeah, you are.

I was a key to all your things.

You're the only reason.

Can I tell you something?

I'm actually so happy that we went out and got really fucked up last night.

Bowen got really fucked up last night.

Yeah, I was slurring my words.

I'm, like, trying so hard to keep it together.

I am, too.

Articulate, yeah.

I feel like every time, every interaction we had, it was, like, pretty, like, just like, hey, what's up?

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

That's why, like, I was, like, oh, I like to connect with people deeply because I think that makes me, I like to feel something.

That's not everybody.

I know, usually, people, you know, they do the small talk and then they go deep, you know, but then I love to just jump into the deep end because it's, like, I know five, seven minutes or whatever is fine, but then, yeah, I never felt that with you and, or whenever

I make friends, I always love doing that so that I get to know the person, really, and I think yesterday was nice to do that.

It makes me feel a little more comfortable, yeah, and I like it.

I really appreciate it.

Like, last night, I felt like you were super, super honest and vulnerable at some times.

I want to.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then I told you immediately, like, I appreciate that so much.

Like, I live for these moments because these are the conversations that, like, I feel like everyone is striving to get, you know, like, when you chat, like, bullshitting and stuff is fun.

Yeah, it's fun.

Yeah, but, like, apart from that, sometimes you also want to have, like, meaningful conversations, but, okay, on that note, I did save two questions for you last night.

I told you, like, I'm gonna hit you so hard with these two questions.

Yes, because, like, your one and a half week of being here, I've been observing you, Jason.

You've been observing me?

Yeah, like a bird.

I've been watching.

You're a good observer, though.

Yeah, I am.

Thank you.

That's my comedy.

Observational.

Observational.

Very good.

Very good.

So, my first question is, are you lonely?

Do you feel lonely?

I feel like you are, I feel like, like, you're very lonely.

Dude, first of all, do not fucking gaslight your guest, okay?

Second of all, what kind of shit is that?

You know, you know how sometimes people would be like, this is what my friends would do, that they have a proper job, like, they're like a doctor or like a lawyer.

They'll come and they'll go like, you're tired, right?

Yeah.

Like, when they start like that, because if you go, oh boy, I'm not tired.

I'm not tired.

Then they'll be like, yeah, but really?

And then you'll be, you'll have to go, but then if you're like,

I guess, yeah, let me find something.

Yeah, let me, yeah, right?

So, there's no defense when it comes to that, but this is where I, no, no, no.

We can backtrack, we can backtrack.

No, no, no, I love this, but I just, I know you, I don't give a fuck about that.

When people who are acquaintances, when they'll go, oh, you're tired, right?

Like, you're exhausted.

And I go, yeah, I'm really, you know, like when you have a dream and a passion, yeah, you devote, you want to devote all of your energy into, so you get tired.

But that's if, if you have a dream, but some people just are very well rested because.

Yeah, for instance, like people who like to ask these kind of questions.

If you had a dream, you would not ask that.

Yeah, ask that question, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Let me kind of explain how I came to that question.

Yes, I was going to ask that.

I was going to start this conversation by asking you, like, obviously you came back to Taiwan.

You got to see a bunch of like open mics and like meet with the comedians here.

All, yeah, most of them, yeah.

Like we talk a lot.

I want, I wanted to start with like, what are your impressions of the comedy scene in Taiwan?

And like, because you came back, I feel like you really liked the sense of a community, like having people, and I was like.

I love it.

Don't you have a community in the States?

I do.

Yeah.

And I'm so grateful.

Okay, that's nice.

Yeah.

Because I was really worried.

I was like, you don't have like.

Oh, I do.

Comrade, camaraderie, I don't know, yeah.

But that took me like such a long time to find like the group of people who I love.

Yeah, the sense of community in the beginning, you go into any new city.

It's hard to like find because I feel like a lot of cities you go, it's kind of like high school, you know, like there's cliques and stuff.

But I've been doing it so long.

And the people have been doing it just as long or like longer or maybe shorter.

But you know who's like very passionate and like who's very serious about the craft.

And also, at the same time, what their intention is.

And if they're like more fake, like there's a saying, you know, there's a saying like, oh, don't just expect the snake to be a snake.

You know, like there's so many different.

And then not that they're bad.

It's just that maybe they value like the industry and a little bit more than friendship.

And but you find you sift through it and you find like a group of people that you like.

And I'm really grateful for that.

And I love comedians because you have something, you know, it's like any industry, you have something already.

So when I came to Taiwan, I or Taipei, I wanted to because I'm Taiwanese, too.

A surprise.

And so I also want to surprise.

And I also wanted to find that.

I guess I have more questions.

So how long did it take for you to find like comedians that kind of had the same vision or that you vibe with?

Until like there's like some two or three core people who I started with like 10, 11 years ago.

Those are like longtime friends.

And we got each other's backs.

We have one of the guys that I got a matching tattoo with recently.

But the people who I love right now, I would say like probably the pandemic.

I think pandemic brought a lot of people together.

And you kind of find like who really cares.

And like, yeah, after that.

So I maybe like six, seven.

And I also moved.

I was in San Diego and I moved to L.A. like seven years ago.

And anytime you, you know, it's so competitive.

And then, you know, it's really clicky in the beginning.

But you find your friends slowly.

I feel like the comedy scene here right now, we don't really have those like little groups.

Right now, the community is so small that everyone is just this really small group.

And we're pretty tight.

But I do think that in the past, I would say one or two years, it's grown to the point where we're starting to see smaller groups.

So what I'm observing is like there are comedians that are trying to find people that view comedy the same way as they do.

And then they form these little groups.

But it's just starting.

It's just starting.

It's so good to see.

And like yesterday, Sam was-

We were noticing like people dress up nicely.

Really?

For the shows.

For the show?

Yeah, for your show.

That's what I was-

You did open mic.

Yeah.

And I love it because it's like-

Okay, that-

Oh, that-

I love it.

I didn't notice because my impression was kind of the opposite.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

So like when I was touring in the States, I would vividly see people dress up to come to these shows.

But when we do shows in Taipei, wherever, like the arena, I don't think people really dress up.

Oh, the crowd.

No, I was talking about the comedians.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, the performers.

Oh, yeah.

They dress up.

They look nice.

I know.

And I-

Go ahead.

I think he was talking about-

Was he talking about Jason Huang?

Jason Huang.

But there's another guy with the bucket hat.

Uh-huh.

And-

Wasn't that me?

I was wearing a bucket hat.

No, you wasn't wearing a-

No, there's another guy who wore a bucket hat.

It's like he had a black bucket hat.

I forgot.

I don't know his name.

The guy that went on After You.

He's like-

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's an engineer at Microsoft.

Oh, shit.

Yeah.

He's super smart.

Very smart.

Yeah.

And he's like, apparently writing code is too easy.

So like now he devotes his time to writing jokes, which are much more difficult.

But I heard he's doing great.

He's really good.