ICRT Joey's Real Talk: What Sets Taiwan Apart? 老外眼中的台灣專屬現象

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We're going to talk about Universiad. We're going to talk about Taiwan and Universiad.
Phil, you went to quite a few of the games.
Two of them.
Yeah, and how did you think of the games?
They were, they were...
There's some...
What was that?
Where's the sound coming from?
Yeah, no, they were good. It was a lot of fun.
People were... the crowds were loud and everything, and I got to see, you know, world-class athletes doing what they do best. It was exciting.
Do you feel like Taiwan gave all of their energy and warmth to receive these athletes from around the world?
Definitely. Yeah, they were very supportive of everybody, doesn't matter what country they were from.
It feels that way, because quite a few of them went back home and started to write on blogs and talk about Taiwan quite a bit.
And some of the things they talked about, we thought, are pretty funny.
So today, we're going to go through some of these, quote-unquote, lasting impressions of Taiwan on these Universiad athletes.
Because, after all, they come from all different backgrounds, all sorts of cultures.
But, seeing as someone who has been to Japan before, what did you... you're a Canadian, right?
Yes, I am.
So, what did you think of Taiwan when you first came here?
It's hot.
And humid.
Yeah, really hot and humid.
But, I don't know, I was... it took me a while to find toilet paper.
What?
I was expecting it to be in rolls. I didn't realize that it comes in, like, these square packages that you have to, like...
Oh!
So, you weren't sure if those could go...
Well, I didn't know what it was. I couldn't read Chinese at the time.
And my friend, like, sent me a picture, like, by the way, this is what toilet paper looks like.
Oh, that's a very thoughtful friend.
Talk to the mic, talk to the mic.
Taiwan is actually, like, the last country who used this kind of toilet paper.
Really?
Yeah.
Taiwan...
Yeah, because we used that when we were poor.
Oh.
When you're really poor, you don't even use toilet paper.
Well, I guess.
Or leaves.
I don't want that part.
Oh, we got a packet right here. Okay, let's talk about toilet paper for a second.
Do you find this to be a good, sort of, applicant, or, you know, something that you can apply and get these done?
Like, Philip.
Do I find that it works?
Do you find that it works, basically?
And if it doesn't, what's wrong with it?
I don't know, it's fine.
It's a perfect square you can fold it into.
It's fine. I mean, what I do like about it is how it's, like, versatile.
Like, if I need to, like, blow my nose, I don't need to, like, try to rip it off of the roll.
I can just take one.
That's true.
Just don't confuse it, you know.
Don't, like, blow your nose and then put it, or vice versa.
Well, usually when you've used it once, you get rid of it.
Oh, is that how you're supposed to do it?
How poor are you over there?
Alright, anyway.
Toilet paper is one thing.
That was your first impression of Taiwan.
You couldn't find toilet paper.
Yes.
What else do you think is worth mentioning that may actually come up on this list of people's lasting impression of Taiwan?
Well, people were friendly and helpful.
I mean, at that point, it wasn't really, like, you know, it wasn't really more than anywhere else.
I didn't feel like people, except for actually once when I was trying to find a hiking trail with my friends that I just met, my new classmates.
We asked this woman in a family mart, and we asked her if she knew where the trail was.
And then she walked us all the way there, and it took, like, ten minutes.
I mean, it wasn't a short walk.
So that was nice.
She accompanied you.
So she showed us, because she figured, you know, she directed us.
Also because Taiwanese streets are really hard and confusing.
Yeah, they're strange.
So anyways, I guess that's why she thought it was probably necessary.
Did she leave you with a packet of toilet paper just in case?
She did not.
And I don't know if we'd want to take it on a hike with us.
Alright, so Rachel and Yvonne, we're going to run down a list of some of these athletes' lasting impressions on Taiwan.
Alright.
And you're going to tell me whether or not you think it's true about Taiwan, okay?
Okay.
First off, convenience stores are convenience.
Yes.
They do everything they open anytime.
Yes.
Do you guys feel like you're being spoiled with convenience stores in Taiwan?
Yes.
Definitely.
Have you ever been to convenience stores outside of Taiwan?
Anybody?
Yeah, for sure.
Korea and Japan.
Okay.
How do we compare?
But the ones in Japan are like the same.
Well, yeah, yeah.
Right.
The one in Japan is kind of the same.
If not better, right?
Japanese convenience stores, they have more selections of usually beverages or food.
Yeah.
Yvonne, you've been to Japan and Korea, right?
How does Korea's, you know, 7-Eleven or, you know, they don't have Family Mart, I guess.
It's not as good as Taiwanese because like we make coffee, we make hot food, we microwave everything.
We even have to make bubble teas.
They don't do that.
That's true.
They don't do that in Korea.
And this is speaking from, coming from someone who actually lives off the nearest Family Mart.
Yes.
To the company.
Yes.
Okay.
So, it's convenient here in Taiwan.
Rachel, you've lived abroad before.
Yeah.
So, I was in Montreal for half of my life and the convenience stores, they're closed at 11 p.m.
Oh, actually, yeah.
I remember that.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Don't, but there's 7-Eleven.
No?
No.
7-Eleven is the closest.
But in Montreal, no.
Really?
We don't have that.
We actually don't have 7-Eleven in Montreal.
Oh, that's because you don't have it.
But if it was there, it would be open 24 hours.
I would hope so.
Because, I mean, 7-Eleven is always open 24 hours.
In the other, in the rest of Canada, it is.
On Vancouver Island, they just have...
Of course we have 7-Eleven.
We have, we have, okay, I lived in West Vancouver where we had one 7-Eleven that used to open 24-7 and then it stopped doing that by the time I hit high school.
As long as I can remember, even when I went back to Canada, you know, this year, the town that I'm from is like 7,000 people and there's one 7-Eleven and it's open 24 hours.
Interesting.
So I guess it's not always the case.
It's not the same everywhere.
I just assumed 7-Eleven never closed.
We have jokes in English about how it doesn't close.
I don't remember any of them.
But we do.
Don't ask me.
I was about to ask you.
Okay, well, that's one thing.
Convenience stores are very convenient.
What about lining up?
Apparently these athletes also think that Taiwanese people really love lining up.
Taiwanese people really love lining up but I don't.
Like what kind of lines are you talking about?
Have you ever lined up for anything that you thought was sort of silly?
Um, I lined up for Lady Gaga's concert ticket.
Okay, well, yes.
You gotta line up for that one.
Is that kind of silly?
No, something silly that you lined up for.
Like food.
Food, like what kind of food?
Sometimes not even restaurant food, right?
Like a vendor.
Yeah, sometimes like a vendor.
But I never lined up for that.
Oh, I know.
I would just skip it.
Okay, we went to Jiao Xi and then this is the, what is it?
Chong You Bing.
People love lining up for that.
But it's everywhere.
Like Chong You Bing, like food stalls are everywhere.
But people love that particular one.
It's just because they hear that it's famous.
But you know what?
If you eat the one next door, it probably tastes the same.
Okay, so we waited.
Because one of our friends, like he wanted to wait.
So we waited.
And then I was just like, this is just the same as...
For how long?
Like 30, 40 minutes.
Oh, jeez.
That's too much time for Chong You Bing.
No.
It's like this is the same for, like everywhere else is the same.
Green onion, what do you call those?
Green onion cakes, I suppose.
Green onion...
Pancake, Taiwanese pancake.
Yeah, Taiwanese pancake.
Right, right, right.
I know, okay, I don't know the owner.
This is not a plug.
But I know there's one on the corner of He Ping and Xin Shen here in Taipei.
Every time I walk by, there's always at least 20, 30 people waiting outside to get a tiny little pancake.
That blows my mind.
It's not even that good for you to wait for like that long.
Do you guys have any, listening to the show, or if you're watching this on Facebook Live, is there anything that you've waited a long time in line for and you want to share with us?
And also make sure you share on Facebook Live as well.
Phil, have you ever waited in the line for something that you thought wasn't quite worth it?
No.
No, we always pass it or we'd find, you know, like something similar nearby.
Very pragmatic man.
I mean, I think I have lined up, but if it was over, you know, like 10 minutes, we'd probably just skip it.
But would you be curious of like why people are lining up or like is it really that good?
Would you be curious to find out yourself?
I would be curious and I'd probably just say, well, I live here, I can come back another day.
True, when no one's there.
Wait, let me first figure out what kind of person you are.
Have you ever been to Disneyland?
Yes, when I was 10.
Have you ever waited in line for like an hour just to get on that ride?
We had the Fast Pass and I would sit on my dad's shoulders.
Oh, I see.
Okay, maybe that's why you're raised not to wait in lines.
Exactly.
I mean, also coming from like Vancouver Island, there's no people, so we don't have to wait.
There's no people.
Like literally no people.
We don't have to wait for anything.
You know what they say, that humankind only got to as far as we are now because we tell each other stories about what to avoid, what to expect, what is good for you and what is not.
And I think waiting in line is one of those things where if you just naturally, instinctively, you want to follow where people go because that's where evolution has taken you.
You want to follow them so that you survive in the end.
Does that make any sense?
And it seems like here in Taiwan we have more of that quote-unquote survival instinct.
Maybe, but I think it's probably a lot to do with the fact that no matter where you go in Taiwan, you have to wait.
I mean, like you're like, oh, I'm going to go.
Especially in Taipei.
But like when you go outside of Taipei to get to the countryside and it's like swarming with people, I don't feel like I've escaped anything.
It doesn't make me relaxed.
I want you guys listening to the show to try this out.
My folks used to tell me this story about when they were dating.
They used to go to a tourist destination and they say it's a bridge, right?
They will together, two of them and all of their friends, so about five or six people, they will intentionally look under the bridge and just pretend like something is down there.
And just see people's reaction.
And people would.
People would line up at the bridge to look down and then they'll walk away.
So I want you all to try this.
If you go to a tourist destination, point at something or look at something for a long time and see if people follow suit.
I really want to know if this works.
You know, there's one time when I walked down the street at night,
I saw two rats like dancing around and I was standing there.
Dancing around?
Yeah.
I was standing there and watching them.
And someone passed by and then they watched them.
With you two?
Yeah.
But there's actually something there.
And then I walked away.
But it's just rats.
I would watch dancing rats.
Right.
Yeah.
Rats dancing?
I would definitely watch that.
It's like a Disney movie.
They're kind of cute.
It's like Ratatouille.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Okay.
Another one on the list is apparently these athletes noticed that there are, first off, a lot of scooters here in Taiwan.
Secondly, that the scooters must edge with all their might to the very front of the traffic lights.
Yes.
Okay.
Now, that is something Phil has noticed a lot, I think.
Because you ride a lot.
I do ride.
And when I first came here, it was amazing to see these squadrons.
They line up in a big phalanx and when the light goes green, they just swarm off.
But the thing is, of course they got to go to the front because that box where the motorcycles can stop is drawn at the front.
So it encourages motorcycle drivers to go all around all the other cars to get to the front.
But it didn't used to be that way here in Taiwan.
I remember there was the good old days where they didn't leave a box at the traffic light.
But because people tend to do that, people tend to want to edge their scooters to the front.
Now, what is the reason for that?
Do you ride, Rachel?
No.
But I used to like back two years ago.
Can you explain why they might want to do that?
I feel like everybody want to be first or like want to be ahead.
I think it's partly because regulations in Taiwan are very lax.
So if your car can fit, you put it in.
And that's with all the cars too, not just with scooters.
But because scooters are even smaller, you can get around the cars.
And if police just enforce the rules, then they wouldn't be so aggressive.
I mean in the west, you can only drive on the left side of your lane where the driver would be in his car.
And you can't pass other people.
You can't have two motorcycles beside each other.
And these rules are enforced.
So when you come up to a light, you would all line up in single file.
Yeah.
But that would never happen in Taiwan.
No.
I think traffic will be extremely backed up as well.
Yeah, true.
I mean, Taipei's traffic is especially that bad.
I think some people also do it because they don't want to breathe the fume from the bus in front of them or the car in front of them.
But then you're just breathing the fumes of the motorcycles in front of you.
That's why everyone's trying to get to the front because there's more fresh air.
But there's all the motorcycle fumes up there.
Yeah.
There's no winning.
There's no winning.
In Taipei, or at least in Metropolis, there's no winning with this one.
Okay.
When we come back, we want to talk about the other parts of Taiwanese culture like night market culture, KTV culture, boba tea culture.
So we'll get to that as a part of our Real Talk today on ICRT.
We are go for launch.
Let's go.
Go.
Go.
We have comments?
Yes.
I think we can talk about it in the air.
Okay.
Let's share them now.
Taiwan.
Confessor Concilio.
There are so many drinks.
Confessor Concilio.
Excuse me.
Every time there is a news day now.
As Taiwanese, what do you think Taiwanese people will notice when they come to Taiwan?
What are some very representative, symbolic characteristics of Taiwan?
If you're a foreigner, if you don't live in Taiwan often, what is the first thing you notice when you come to Taiwan?
So what do you notice about Taiwan when you first came here?
What is the most glaring feature about Taiwan that you really took notice?
And apparently we're listing some of the things that university athletes really notice.
For example, that you always have to get to the front of the traffic light if you're on a scooter.
Convenience stores are very convenient.
You can pretty much raise a family in convenience stores.
And also, people love lining up here.
Now, let's share some.
Do we have anything to share?
Someone said that every time there is a news day or a tea shop, always expect for a crowd.
Yeah.
That's true.
And Kevin Mossman.
Why are there so many difficult names?
In Costco, just for a try-little-food sample is just so funny.
I would never line up 10 minutes for one bite.
Oh, yes.
Costco.
Yeah, people do line up for just those samplers.
I mean, you're supposed to go to Costco to eat all the free food quickly, not to wait forever.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, if there's a line, then...
I mean, if I see a line, I would not wait.
That's for sure.
Someone's a beetle nut, girls.
Yes.
And apparently, the further south you go, the less food they wear.
Oh, maybe I don't go south far enough.
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Wait a minute, I need to make a comment.
Someone said,
Oh, Jiao Ruoping said,
Everyone is afraid to do it, but don't like to do it.
Yeah, that's a thing.
That is true.
Yeah, that's true.
You can sit on, don't like to do it.
It's okay.
Yeah, just move if you gotta.
Yeah.
I have someone on the chat saying,
I lined up for more than 14 minutes for Fast and Furious 8 movie, when it just came out as one of the cinema theme.
I lined up for 8 hours for Lady Gaga's concert tickets.
Yeah, but that's like, that's something that comes only once every few years.
Yeah.
But food at a stall is there every single day.
Yeah, that's crazy.
But the dumbest part is, after that 8 hours, and then it sold out, and then haven't jiao chang.
I was like, what's the point?
Oh.
What's the point?
Why did I wait there, stay out there for 8 hours?
Yeah, they didn't know.
That's, that's it.
But it's still, that's a bit of a trick.
That's a trick.
Yeah.
Share, share.
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Okay, we'll share in the chat what you just typed.
And then, we can also use our app chat.
We have,
Kevin, who is on the app chat, saying, we don't use rolled toilet paper because we are poor.
What?
A question mark?
Yeah.
That's absurd.
Rolled toilet paper is cheaper.
Is it?
Is it?
Is it?
I think they make less here, so it's more expensive.
But I really saw an article a while ago that said, in Taiwan, we use it when we are poor.
And now everyone has changed it to rolled.
Oh, you said, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, it's not that we use rolled toilet paper because we are poor.
We use these ones.
Yeah, we use that one because we were poor.
The square ones because we came from the bottom.
Oh, yeah.
We just stick to it.
I guess you're right.
Because rolled toilet paper, you need to have, like, a machine that does the rolling for you.
And you have to, you have the extra, the cone.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
You have to have a machine that gets these things to line up.
Yeah.
Or you can just get people to do it, which means that every single toilet paper you use, someone touched it.
Oh, yeah.
Don't.
Oh.
All right, we'll share some of these.
Do you have any to share?
上面嗎?
還是我自己有什麼故事可以分享?
No, no, no.
In the chat, 上面的.
他們剛才說有什麼吃的碗粿蚵仔麵線我覺得如果說要講台語的可不可以一方你們來講?
講台語?
OK.
我不會講台語.
我可以講台語, 沒問題,沒問題.
有人要跟我講台語嗎?
I just ask if someone wants to talk Taiwanese.
吃飽嗎?
吃飽嗎?
你吃飽了嗎?
That's also one thing.
Have you eaten?
That is how we greet each other.
Alright, we're right back.
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In this time, we're doing real talk and we're talking about all things Taiwan today.
Once again,
We have Rachel, Yvonne and Phillip.
What's up, everybody?
Hello.
Alright.
So today we're talking about everything that is impressionable of Taiwan.
Previously, we covered convenience stores, we covered people love lining up, we covered scooters, culture.
And we also talked about toilet paper.
In the first portion.
Efficacy.
Efficacy of using toilet paper, maybe.
And Kevin on the ICRT app chat doesn't seem to agree that we use rolled up toilet paper because we are poor.
Actually, no.
That's not what we said, right?
No, we used conventional packets because we came from an economy that didn't have,
I guess, machines to make these rolled up toilet papers.
I mean, I think
I've never actually seen one until I came to
I went to Canada, which is
The rolled
The rolled, yeah.
That was also a long time ago, wasn't it?
Like a long
Well, no.
Come on, no.
A long time ago.
And we talked about lining up.
Popopo on the app chat says,
I lined up for more than 14 minutes for Fast and Furious 8 movie.
That's not that bad, actually.
That's not too bad.
There are people who lined up like an hour for the Harry Potter movies.
Who?
People.
Not you.
Not anyone specific.
Yeah, not anyone specific.
My cousin lined up the whole night to wait for the last book that came out from Harry Potter.
Wow.
So, I guess this one is about how passionate you are regarding that topic, right?
Yeah, I guess.
All right.
And now we're going to talk about night market culture.
Favorite night market food from each of you.
Yvonne.
Oh, night market.
Jī pǎi.
Jī pǎi.
Yeah.
The, what do you call it?
Fried chicken steak.
Cutlet.
That's a cutlet.
Yeah.
Like a whole piece, right?
Like a whole, like thigh.
Philip, yes.
What's your favorite?
I don't know.
There's so many.
But I like the black pepper bun.
Oh, really?
But I can't have it anymore.
Which sucks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
His body can't process it anymore because he probably had too much of it.
That's why.
Yeah, that's why.
It's killing him.
Too much of a good thing.
Can be a bad thing.
Rachel, your favorite night market food?
I think it's the same as Yvonne.
Like, xiān shù jī and jī pǎi.
Yeah, the fried.
The fried food.
No one's saying lú huì.
Braised.
I don't like.
But that, you can get everywhere.
Not really just in Macau.
I like lú huì as well.
But I like fried things.
Yeah, me too.
More.
What about this?
Your favorite night market in Taipei or in the greater Taipei area?
I don't like night markets.
Because it's always full of people.
It's true.
I hate people.
Oh, man.
You hate too many.
I hate too many people around me.
You like specific people, right?
Right.
Like, I like you.
Well, specifically this one she might hate a little bit.
You like people in general, just not too many.
Rachel, which is your favorite night market?
The one that I go to the most is Tóng huà jié.
Yeah, that's a good one.
They have really good yì miàn.
I remember I was based on that stuff.
Philip?
I never remember the names of them.
But the one by Zhongshan Station.
Zhongshan Station.
What is that?
Wait.
Zhongshan doesn't...
Shuāng lián yì miàn.
Shuāng lián yì miàn.
What is that?
Lin Xia.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the one.
Is it good?
Small one.
It's small, but it's got a lot of good food.
Do you like it because it's closer to you?
Well, it's...
Yeah, it takes like 10 minutes to drive there.
But that's not really...
I mean, that's where I go when my friends want to go.
Okay.
Yeah, my favorite is Rào hé because I live right next to it.
And that's the one that's got the best black pepper bun.
Yes, they do.
That's where I first had it and that's where
I will always remember them.
They also have...
It left a mark on your heart.
It did.
They also have the best xiǎo lóng bāo, a little dumpling.
Where?
The one in Rào hé, near the end, towards where...
Okay, we'll talk about this later.
Okay.
What about you guys?
What's your favorite night market food?
Which is your favorite night market?
Maybe introduce us to some of the
Central and Southern Taiwan night markets on the ICRT Facebook Live as we're doing today's Real Talk there.
What about KTV culture?
Yvonne is big on KTV, but she can actually sing.
I am big on KTV?
You love singing, right?
I love singing, yes.
She's an actual singer for a band called
Greedy Black Hole.
But you enjoy KTV, right?
Yeah, I do.
I mean, we've been there a couple of times.
You seem to enjoy yourself.
I do.
The people around me are fun.
Can I tell you guys a story on the air?
I used to love KTV until I went with Yvonne and she completely destroyed my confidence.
She told me I sucked at singing and I just never enjoyed it anymore.
And then she rocked it, right?
And she rocks it.
Like, in my face.
But for the last time we went singing,
I was left in my face because there were two professional singers there.
There were two professional singers singing with us.
Sophie and Erica who joined us.
But nowadays, I just don't care anymore.
I do know that Yvonne gives me this look while I'm performing.
No, I didn't.
Phillip, do you like singing KTV?
No.
Last time I did it was in Japan.
That was like eight years ago.
In Japan, they have like an open space KTV, right?
No, it depends.
KTV started in Japan, right?
So they have the single ones.
It's in North America.
Canada is mostly where you'll have the big open one where you sing in front of the whole bar.
So everybody can see your shame.
I cannot do that.
No.
I can't even do the room ones.
You can rap.
I can rap a little bit.
Rachel, do you like singing at KTV?
I like singing in general.
So I can sing whenever.
It doesn't have to be at KTV.
But I feel like KTV is so popular because it's a place where people hang out.
They like to drink there.
They like to play drinking games.
Yeah, I think that's why it's so popular here in Taiwan.
They have all the games at KTV.
They have dice games.
They have cards.
For those of you who can't sing, they're like, you have something to do.
They have food.
And there's food.
Yeah, good food.
Favorite KTV food.
Mine is beef noodle for sure.
I got like two bowls of that the last time I went.
Dumplings?
Dumplings.
Nice.
Rachel?
Probably like chicken wings.
Okay, what about when it comes to...
Okay, Asians in North America call Zhenzhu Naitao or these sort of Shouyao Bei boba tea.
B-O-B-A.
But here we call them bubble tea because it's really Zhenzhu.
It's bubbles.
But in Vancouver, they call it bubble tea.
I've never heard boba tea.
In Montreal, they call it tapioca.
Tapioca.
Well, that's what it's made out of.
That's what it actually is.
Right?
Yeah.
So they call it that.
When it comes to bubble teas or boba drinks, it's said that a lot of Taiwanese people have one like every single day.
A lot of athletes who visited Taiwan during university had noticed that we drink one every day.
Do you guys actually do that?
No.
Not every day, right?
Definitely not.
And if you do go, which ones do you go for?
I mean, what type?
Don't call out names of companies.
I go for ones without milk.
Oh, you can't really do milk right now.
Oh, Phillip, that sucks.
All right, if you guys want to ever send a boba tea to ICRT, make sure you have one that doesn't have milk.
Yeah, for Phillip right here.
Yvonne's favorites?
Of course, bubble tea.
Down, right?
I've heard that you're not supposed to actually have bubble tea.
It's not good for you.
Like, milk with tea is actually not good for you.
From a doctor uncle of mine.
I don't know if that's scientifically...
Nowadays, I don't really go to Soya Beidian.
No.
Maybe I drink one every three months.
Okay.
Like, half sugar.
Yeah, how do you have it?
Half sugar, ice?
No ice.
Less ice.
No ice, less ice.
Yeah.
Maybe Wei Yihang.
Like, I try not to take...
Yeah, less sugar intake.
What about you, Rachel?
Yeah, same.
I don't go there that much at all.
Like, I try to stay healthy as much.
Because, well, I just came back last year.
And I did a lot of that early on.
And I'm like, no, I gotta start taking care of my body.
Man, but if you go for a bubble tea, you gotta go all the way.
At least have half sugar.
Maybe that's why I look the way I am right now.
Darn it.
All right, one last thing.
People who visited Taiwan noticed that we tend to visit our hospitals a lot.
Is that true?
Because we have good health care.
True.
We do have good health care.
But I think people abuse it a little bit.
Yeah, definitely.
I mean, like, you gotta cold run to the emergency room.
Like, that's not what it's used for.
Also, it's expensive if you go to the emergency room.
For the country?
For yourself, too.
For yourself, okay.
Emergency rooms, you gotta pay like 2,000 NT or something.
Really?
It depends on which one.
Yeah.
Well, I never had to pay.
Because when I go, I'm obviously not the one to pay.
You mean your momma paid for you?
My parents would be like, I would be hurt.
You know, I wouldn't be the one paying.
So I don't ever notice how much you pay at emergency rooms.
Yeah, no, the emergency room's not cheap.
I mean, you're just wasting resources.
Yeah, that's true.
Well, I used to live near the cafe hospital.
That place is like a night market.
Well, actually it is, because there's a lot of street vendors around there.
And yeah, I gotta say, we go to hospitals way too much.
And I think I read this stat somewhere, that the sleeping pills that is used by every Taiwanese person in a year, can actually, if you line them up, they can circle the whole island like three or four times.
Yeah, contribute a little bit of that.
Yeah, we eat a lot of pills.
But not just sleeping pills.
I mean, if you've got a cold, they'll go to the doctor, and then they'll give you pills.
And you can't, if you have a cold, no medication's gonna do anything.
Yeah, that's true.
They'll give you antibiotics for a cold, and then you're just making the...
No, I don't need to talk about this.
He feels very strongly about this.
We have Popopo, who's apparently,
I think he's tuned in from the Taipei Medical University, saying that the first time I sang at KTV,
I had my whole squad laughing.
I hated it, but it was fun, and that's what matters.
Did he say Popopo?
No, no, no, Popopo.
I thought he said Popopo.
Yeah, I thought I...
I know.
I thought Popopo would be singing at KTV.
You know, why not?
It is true.
We should take Popopo to KTV.
Alright, if you have anything to share about some special, lasting impressions of Taiwan, make sure you put that on ICRT Facebook Live's little comment section, and we'd love to answer to you.
And once again, that is today's Real Talk.
Thank you Yvonne, Phillip, and Rachel for joining us.
Thank you.
Let's play a request.
Here is Imagine Dragons with Thunder.