This is her latest album.

It's called Hit Me Hard and Soft.

And the Hit Me Hard and Soft world tour starts September 29th in Quebec.

Please welcome Billie Eilish.

["HIT ME HARD AND SOFT"]

Wow.

Well, thanks for being here.

It's good to see you.

You too.

How's it going?

How was your summer?

Did you do anything fun this summer?

I just did summer stuff all summer.

Summer stuff at home or summer stuff out on the road?

At home.

At home, yeah.

Because you're going out on the road.

And why would you?

For a long time, right?

Yes.

Well, it's in chunks.

So I have, like, a few weeks on, a few weeks off.

Oh, that's nice.

That's nice.

I keep myself sane.

Because it's a year-long tour.

And I think people, I talk to a lot of musicians, a lot of bands, about being away from home for a long time.

And some of them are just like, I need to open the mail.

Well, that's the thing.

I really don't, the thing is, I don't ever want to not enjoy it.

And I love tours so much.

The mail or the tour?

The mail.

But so I just don't want to ever resent it.

And I feel like if you go for too long, you start hating yourself.

How did you get so smart at 22 years old?

I mean, I really feel like you had it figured out the first time I met you.

From all the talk shows.

Is that what it is?

It helps you think it through, being interviewed?

Was I really stupid the first time?

No, you weren't.

You were never stupid at all.

I was a, like.

No, there was one thing.

But it was not stupid.

You're young.

You're young.

It was more that I was kind of playing up, though.

Like, I'm a little stupid, little.

Oh, you were?

Interesting.

And now you've got glasses.

And now you're really.

Yeah, they're, yeah.

Your new album went platinum today.

Did you know that?

It did.

I just.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was holding it last night, and suddenly it felt much heavier.

Now, in the olden times, what they would do was they'd spray paint the album platinum, and they'd put it in a plaque.

And then they'd put it up on the wall, and you'd have a platinum album on the wall.

Do they do that anymore?

I don't know.

We should do it right now.

Well, if you don't have one, then they don't do it.

I don't think.

I think that sounds more fun to me.

Call the record company and demand it.

In fact, I'm sure they're working on it right now.

And also, this album.

Another thing that I just noticed, actually, is it used to be two sides to the album.

Now it's just this is the album.

This is the whole deal right here, right?

That was a choice, because I wanted to.

It's short.

It's pretty short.

It's not too many songs.

The songs themselves are pretty long, but it's only 10 songs.

We actually specifically had to be under 44 minutes total.

You did? Why?

Yeah, because I wanted it to be done as fast as possible.

So if it was under 44 minutes, it could be one side, and then it could be done in three months.

What's on the other side?

Nothing?

There's no other side.

So wait, it's bald on the other side?

No, when there's two sides.

It's all glued together.

Wait, you don't even know this.

When there's two sides, it's two vinyls, Jimmy.

No, when it's two.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Come on.

I was a dish jockey for a long time.

The vinyl has two sides.

Yeah, right.

But it's just those songs.

OK, oh, so you still have two sides.

There's two sides, but usually it's two vinyls.

I think they tricked you, is what happened.

Tried to get the album sooner.

I do like, though, that you still make albums, because I think a lot of artists are just like,

I'm just going to release single after single as I make them.

Right.

Is that important to you, to have albums?

Very important.

There's nothing wrong with any of that stuff, but I've always been such an album lover, and I really love when something feels like one piece and is cohesive and is thought through.

And, you know, like, specifically with this album, a lot of it, it's so thought through.

Like, even the set list and all the songs and the order of them and where they sit is, like, extreme.

We really worked hard on it.

Do you, when you are arranging the set list, how do you approach that exactly?

It really, it's like a long process.

I'll write down all the names, and then I'll, like, tear them up, and then I'll move them, and then move them, and then change them around, and then take some out and put them back in to make sure that it feels right.

And then I'll listen to them back to back, and then sometimes they'll sound wrong, and I'll move them.

It's all about, like, dynamics and, like, the flow of it.

And also, then once we choose it, it's making all of the songs kind of go into themselves so they all flow.

Like, you know, the White Album by the Beatles is one of my favorites in the world.

And something I love so much about it is it's cohesive.

It's like, thank you.

It's like, every song goes into the next song.

And that, there's just not much of that anymore.

I feel like it's like single, single, single, single, single.

You're right, and I like that you think about that.

Do you go on, like, Spotify or whatever the platform is and see how many listens each song has, and then wonder, like, which one is your favorite of the songs on this album?

My favorite, um.

You've got Skinny, you've got Lunch, you've got Chi.

Go on, go on.

I'm blind, so I can't see.

Chihiro, Birds of a Feather, Wildflower of the Greatest,

L'amour de ma vie, The Diner, Bittersweet, and Blue.

He, he, he, he, um.

Did I pronounce poorly?

Well, you know, somebody asked me if there, if it's like all, like, they're all in a horse race, and one of them, like, they're, like, trying to get to first place in my head.

And it's, it's, it's almost as if it was like a horse race, but all the horses were really happy to be running.

And also, there were, and none of them cared about being first.

You know what?

These do sound like horse, race horse names.

They do.

They totally do.

But I just mean that, like, I love them all so much.

I mean, this is my favorite thing I've ever made, and I feel so proud of it.

And like, yeah, I have, you know, the greatest is something

I, I love so much, Shihiro, I love.

But again, even when I say that the songs that I like a lot, like, I love them all so much.

And I'm not trying to f*** you.

I love them all so much.

Listen, I believe you.

Why wouldn't you love them?

You probably wouldn't put them on the album if you didn't.

Right.

I mean, it's got to be weird artists, like, yeah,

I'm going to, I love eight of them, and then the other seven are garbage.

Yeah.

You also seem to love your fans.

In fact, we have a video that one of your fans posted.

I know it sounds silly to say you love your fans, because everybody claims they love their fans.

Well, most artists don't like their fans at all.

Yeah.

But here's a video from when you left our show last time.

Oh my god!

You look good!

Hi!

Hi!

Hi!

Oh my god!

Oh my god!

How are you doing?

You look good!

Oh my god!

You look so good, by the way.

What?

Oh my god!

Wait, how are you doing?

I'm good, how are you?

I'm good, it's been a minute.

I know!

Oh, it's December.

December.

It's December.

I just went to London for you when I was up there.

You went to London?

Yeah!

I was just like, oh, I'm on my way.

So you recognize these women now and, like, know them?

Yeah.

You do?

Yeah, well, what's been so cool is that, like, all of these fans, all of my little family, have been, like, we've been growing up at the same time.

And so, you know, so many kids, especially in LA, just because I'm from here and I'm around and stuff, like, when I was first starting out, there would be, like, certain kids that I would see at everything I would do, and we were all the same age.

And so they would come to stuff, and I would see them, like, multiple times a year, and then not for a couple years, and then I'd see them again.

And, like, over the years, I've seen the same faces multiple times.

And, like, there's some in here, there's some outside.

Like, I recognize them, obviously.

I'm a person with eyes.

And it's so special.

Like, it feels like seeing, you know, my old friend again.

This is what happens when I leave the show.

Let me see.

Oh my god!

Jimmy!

Hi!

I love you!

Hi, Jimmy!

Oh!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Oh!

What?

What?

This is why I'm not being loved.

Billie Eilish is here.

We'll be right back.

We're back with Billie Eilish.

The Hit Me Hard and Soft World Tour starts in Quebec.

Why Quebec on September 29th?

Why there?

Because it's awesome there.

OK.

It is awesome there.

It's like an underrated spot.

Yeah, yeah.

I have no choice in where the tour starts, but.

Oh.

But I love Canada.

You love Canada. All right.

Well, yeah, Canada's good.

You brought us a clip of your brother, Phineas, who's your songwriting partner and brother's, well, obviously, working on.

This is, can you want to explain what we're about to see?

Because no one's seen this before.

Yeah.

So this is a video that I took on my phone in the back of the SUV in Brazil on the way to doing a show in Brazil a year and a half ago.

And this is a thing.

This is a very normal thing for me and Phineas, that we're always finding ourselves working in the most random places.

We talked about it all the time, but no time to die for James Bond was like, we recorded that in the tour bus, in the bunk, in the dark.

We're always, and we've recorded in little hotels in El Paso.

It's nothing that cool, but it's fun because it's so casual and normal.

And we were just in the back of his car, and it's Phineas' laptop.

And like, yeah.

Well, let's take a look.