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  • this breaking news right now in Kentucky, where police are in a desperate manhunt after a shooting spree on an interstate.

  • They're looking for this man, Joseph Couch.

  • Police say he is armed and dangerous.

  • This afternoon, investigators say they found his car and the suspected weapon.

  • He used an A.

  • R. 15 authorities say couch shot into cars as they passed by on Interstate 75 in rural Laurel County.

  • Five people were wounded in the attack.

  • One of the harrowing experience.

  • We just heard this deafening loud sound, and it sounded like like a rock went through my back window, and our ears were ringing, and we just looked at each other and we were like, Was that a gun shot?

  • And then we're like, That can't be a gun shot, you know, because we're driving down the highway.

  • Um, and there was a white truck that was next to us in the right hand lane, and all of a sudden he slowed down and pulled off to the shoulder, and we thought maybe it was his tire had blown out or something, but it was much louder than a tire blowing out.

  • CNN's Gloria Paz.

  • Mina was tracking the latest developments in this case.

  • Gloria, what are you learning?

  • Fred, we're starting to hear from some of the victims, and you can just imagine how chaotic this scene was.

  • You're driving along a highway, you're moving at fast speed, and all of a sudden you hear gunshots.

  • And my colleague, Jillian Sykes, actually just spoke with one of the survivors of this gunfire.

  • Her name is Rebecca Poirier, and she's a 28 year old woman who was driving her car along with her husband and her four year old son.

  • And what you're seeing there is the picture of her car with the window shattered after a bullet pierced through it and injured her in the arm.

  • Rebecca is going to be recovering.

  • She was already released from the hospital, but she's one of the five people that were injured during this shooting last night.

  • Now, as you said, the manhunt for this suspect continues, and police have identified Joseph Couch.

  • They believe that he is the suspect behind this incident, and they are asking people in this community, in the city of London, to remain vigilant.

  • They believe that they have him cordoned to an area where they are currently searching, but they're open to the possibility that he may be elsewhere by now.

  • This happened last night, and they had to stop the search in the evening hours because of the dark and just how difficult this area is.

  • A lot of trees, a lot of shrub, not a whole lot of light in there for you to be searching at night.

  • I want you to listen to the Laurel County Sheriff's describing some of the injuries that this suspect allegedly caused last night during the shooting.

  • Take a listen.

  • There were some severe injuries.

  • There was an individual that was shot in the face.

  • There was another individual that was shot in the arm.

  • A very severe injury.

  • Those were the most severe.

  • A lady shot across the chest.

  • They were very significant, very severe injuries.

  • I don't want to lessen that.

  • We didn't have a fatality, but we certainly had some very serious injuries that will affect these people for the rest of their life.

  • I'm sure it's it's incredible to hear just how lucky everyone got last night.

  • We know that an A.

  • R. 15 was recovered.

  • Police believe that was the weapon that this man used in this shooting.

  • They also recovered his vehicle along with the gun case that was inside the vehicle.

  • They believe that he is armed and also learned in the last hour, Fred, that the family of this suspect is cooperating.

  • They live elsewhere outside this county, but the sheriff's office did say that they are cooperating.

  • He said they have a big task ahead of them in the next several hours.

  • They're working against the clock.

  • They don't want the sun to go down once again without this person being caught on their out there working every possible angle.

  • They're using canines, drones, a very wooded area, a difficult to search area, but trying to keep the community, uh, at calm so that they know that this search is ongoing.

  • Let's talk more now on this man hunt with CNN law enforcement contributor and retired supervisory special agent for the FBI.

  • Steve Moore.

  • Good to see you, Steve.

  • So this is a rural area of Kentucky.

  • We know now a vehicle confiscated.

  • Gloria reported in a R 15, which they believe might have been involved here.

  • Um, now how do they go about tracing for some steps toward their suspect?

  • Well, it's gonna be really difficult.

  • I remember back in the FBI when we were looking for Eric Robert Rudolph for over a year in woods similar to this.

  • What you have to consider is that if he had one gun, he's got another gun.

  • If he was shooting at ambush style at cars before he would shoot ambush style at officers.

  • So you have a you have a cordon and they say they believe he's within that area, which is pretty impressive if that's true, that they could be sure of that.

  • But if that's the case, they have to start moving in on him and closing the circle in and each foot you go, you risk, um, you risk losing officers.

  • Um, beyond that, you're talking to anybody.

  • He knows a family, anybody, any friends who could tell you why this happened and where he might go.

  • And besides the terrain being among the challenges I covered for a very long time in the Nantahala Forest there for that search for Eric Rudolph reporting on you and your colleagues as well.

  • So I understand that.

  • But talk to me about the other challenges here when law enforcement is urging people to stay inside.

  • At the same time, they do need the public's cooperation to be able to report anything suspicious that they see.

  • Yeah.

  • And the problem here is like with Rudolph, uh, they go into people's homes.

  • Sometimes they try to find empty homes.

  • They try to find empty vehicles.

  • That's one of the things they're gonna be looking for.

  • The law enforcement is if any cars are missing, any trucks are missing.

  • Um, so when you have people stuck in their homes, it's not easy for them to obviously they're not out and about seeing things.

  • But at the same time, they have to protect themselves in their home and be vigilant and ready to call because this person, if they're alive and we don't know, but they're going to need food, they're gonna need water and they're going to probably go to a more populated area to get that again.

  • The suspect is being identified as a joseph couch.

  • Talk to me to about some of the assets that law enforcement has.

  • I understand they brought in a drone to help in the search.

  • Drones are going to be very useful.

  • But as you know, from from that kind of forested area, um, it's very difficult to look down, see down.

  • I mean, the FBI police departments, we now have, uh, we now have, uh, clear.

  • We have infrared detection.

  • We have all these things that are pretty much blocked by trees.

  • The drones can operate, but in a forested area, they're limited in their effectiveness.

  • And so what you're going to be doing is is looking at night, especially you're going to be looking within the forest horizontally trying to pick up silhouette heat silhouettes.

  • The problem there is there are deer, there are rabbits.

  • The first time you see something like that, you don't even believe how many heat sources you see.

  • So it becomes just a bigger haystack in a smaller needle.

  • Oh, I remember that was a gigantic obstacle as well.

  • An observation during that search for Eric Rudolph in the Nantahala Forest.

  • Breaking news.

  • The Laurel County Sheriff's Department saying the search for the gunman they say opened fire on Interstate 75 in Kentucky will be temporarily suspended at dark.

  • Again, the biggest problem that we have up there is the remoteness of the area.

  • Uh, it's already starting to get a little bit dark.

  • That's that doesn't work in our favor.

  • I'm sure we're gonna we're gonna go on till dark tonight.

  • Joining us now.

  • CNN Senior National Security Analyst Juliet Kayyem.

  • Juliet, I know you were with us last night as this was all unfolding.

  • Now we're getting a little bit more information.

  • This would be the second night of searching in the woods for the suspect.

  • Clearly, they don't think it's worth it to try to search once it gets dark.

  • What kind of hurdles are they facing right now?

  • Well, part of it is just gonna be, um, the sort of productivity that can occur in the dark is quite limited.

  • And so they're probably they're just balancing the benefits of continuing this as compared to just suspending it for 67 hours and then starting again in the morning.

  • Look, it is much harder, um, to hide for long periods of time than it was during the Unabomber Asia.

  • We have drones.

  • We have signal intelligence.

  • People have cell phones.

  • They get hungry.

  • Uh, it is hard to hide out for long periods of time unless it was planned for.

  • And so part of this is just patience.

  • I remind people in Maine, um, during that mass shooting, uh, that the perpetrator, uh, went missing for over 48 hours.

  • He died from a self inflicted wound.

  • So lots of things can happen.

  • And the fact that he's not caught in the first day or so doesn't mean that he's gone forever.

  • And authorities say they found this AR 15 and several magazines.

  • What does that mean for the continuing threat?

  • Yeah, I think a couple things.

  • I mean, one is it's very rare to find someone in these instances who has only one gun.

  • So there are there's other weapons that we should anticipate that this is a person who is armed and dangerous.

  • That's why the community has been told not to engage anyone, not to look out for for him on your own.

  • If there's anything suspicious to to call it in.

  • I have in all of these cases, there are additional arms.

  • And in this case, this is someone who clearly knows the damage that they are can do.

  • It is lucky on only luck that people were not killed on the highway from either bullets or in response to the bullets in terms of automobile accidents.

  • I actually can't leave it, given the number of bullets that we have seen.

  • And and so he is he is he is someone we should anticipate has more weapons.

  • And so ultimately, I think for anyone that's kind of in that area, of course, I'm sure they're nervous and on edge tonight.

  • But but as you were alluding to in your first answer, typically it is it is hard to just disappear these days.

  • Typically, they are able to ultimately track this person down, even though it may even though it may take more time.

  • It sounds like just because they're suspending this it because it's dark, et cetera.

  • They're obviously still working hard to find this person.

  • That's exactly right.

  • Look, they have a name.

  • They know where he lived.

  • They know who his colleagues, friends, family are.

  • They they know what the car looks like.

  • They have his phone number.

  • They have drones.

  • They have all whether he's contacting anyone, they have credit cards, presumably ATM cards in this day and age.

  • It is very difficult to disappear.

  • Look, he's trying to disappear.

  • One hopes and go into hiding.

  • But that is hard to do for long periods of time.

  • He may have set up some way to maintain his ability to stay hidden, whether he hoarded a water because a survivor list.

  • We don't know.

  • But but in the end, my confidence is just based on, uh, history that in most of these cases, the person screws up, gets lonely, needs something and therefore exposes where he is to law enforcement.

  • All right, Juliet.

  • I am always good to have your expertise.

  • Thanks so much.

  • Thank you.

this breaking news right now in Kentucky, where police are in a desperate manhunt after a shooting spree on an interstate.

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