Thereareanimalsthat I'veworkedoninthelaboratoryandthatalsoinhumans, it's nowbeenshownin a beautifulstudythatpeoplewhoget 20 to 30 minutesoflightontheirskin, thiswas a studydoneinIsrael.
Itactually, there's a pathwayinvolving a moleculecalled P53 andthekeratinocytesaretheseskincellsthatwhensunlight, whenUVB, ultravioletbluelightpenetratestheskin, itactuallytriggersthesekeratinocytestostimulate a pathwaythatreleasesdopamineinthebrainandbody.
Soviewingbrightlightinthemorninganchorsit, whenwesayentrained, ittellsthrough a circuitthatinvolvescellsintheeyeandcellsinthehypothalamus, whichthentalktotherestofthecellsofthebodythrough a signal, a peptidethat's released.
Soifyou'regoingtodoicebathsorcoldshowers, youcando, I wouldsay, dothemsometimebetterthannotatall.
There's a beautifulpaperpublishedintheEuropeanJournalofPhysiologyintheyear 2000, whichtookpeopleandhadthemsit, theyactuallyhadthemonlawnchairsinwater, a pool.
Itwas a greatwaytorunanexperiment.
I wouldsaypeopleaskaboutcoldshowers.
Therearenot a lotofexperimentsoncoldshowers, becausethinkaboutit's veryhardtocontrol.
Anditisreleasedfromtheadrenals, obviously, butalsofrom a siteinthebraincalledlocusceruleus, a littleareaofthebrainstemthatthensprinklerstherestofthebrainwithepinephrineandwakesuptherestofthebrain.
Thenwhathappensiswhenyougetoutofthecold, whetherornotit's a longerperiodat 60 degreesor a shortperiod, I wouldhatetohearthatpeopleareonlydoing 20 seconds, butmaybe a minutetothreeminutesat 45 degreesorsomething.
Shetalkedabout a patientofhersthatbasicallyhelpedhimselfgetovercocaineaddictionbydoingcoldbathsbecauseitwastheonlythingthatwouldgivehimthekindofdopaminereleasethatevenslightlymimickedhiscocaineaddictionandallowedhimselftoweanhimselfoffwith a healthierbehavior.
Now I'm notsayingit's theequivalentof a druglikecocaine, but I amsayingthatit's a betterdecisionthan a druglikecocaineforobviousreasons.
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