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  • CNN's Brian Todd is in Towson, Maryland, where he's been tracking down information on the suspect's friends and family.

  • Brian, who have you talked to and what are they saying about him?

  • Right, Jake, we've been coming through this area north of Baltimore, the suburbs here, and talking to people who know the Mangione family worked for them.

  • And we're getting this portrait of a family with enormous wealth, influence, and power.

  • Right behind me is the Hayfields Country Club.

  • This is one of at least two golf courses that the Mangione family owns.

  • There are exclusive properties on these grounds right here, properties that we are not being allowed access to.

  • There are security personnel keeping us out of here.

  • So this family, again, has enormous influence in this community.

  • They also own a chain of assisted living facilities.

  • And I spoke with Thomas Moronic, Jr.

  • He is a former radio talk show host who hosted a show for about 20 years on a radio station, WCBM, that the Mangione family owns.

  • He talked to us about kind of the contradiction with what this young man is alleged to have done and the fact that his family works in the health care business.

  • That's extremely ironic because this is part of their family business.

  • And he's railing against corporate health care.

  • It seems to be going against the grain within his own family, if that's true.

  • Now, Moronic went on to tell us that he believes the Mangione family was great to work with, great to work for.

  • He said they were extremely generous, especially with their employees.

  • And as far as the radio station that he worked at, he said it is known as being a conservative, a very conservative radio talk station.

  • And he said when he worked for them, you know, he had himself kind of centrist views.

  • But he said the family never tried to influence his content, never tried to kind of get him to sway over to their conservative political beliefs, just to kind of a window into this family, extremely influential, wealthy and very powerful in this area.

  • We were also told, Jake, that they have they've engaged in a lot of philanthropy in this area.

  • Their name is on a pool at the University of Loyola, Maryland.

  • And of course, they they did send their son to the exclusive Gilman School, the all boys school near Baltimore here.

  • All right, Brian Todd.

  • Thank you so much.

  • Let's bring in Juliette Kayyem, CNN senior national security analyst.

  • Juliette, let's take a look at the photos that New York City police released immediately after the killing.

  • You can see let's bring that up if we can.

  • You can see Mangione very clearly in the pictures on the bottom there from the hostel.

  • You can see his eyes in the pictures.

  • I think that's from the Starbucks.

  • And then from the very distinctive eyes and eyebrows from the cab.

  • Yes, he's distinctive looking.

  • You know, there are a lot of kids out there saying he's good looking.

  • Apparently, no one in his rather wide network of friends or his large family recognized this person that they knew very, very well, who, according to his friends, had fallen off the grid somewhat in recent months.

  • I mean, in the end, it's a random McDonald's employee who recognizes him and turns him in.

  • What do you make of that?

  • Yeah, it's an interesting, if not slightly disturbing aspect to this story.

  • I mean, because because what we don't know is whether he was going to commit another crime.

  • So it wasn't a matter of are you turning in your friend?

  • It is whether you can help in stopping another crime.

  • He was still in possession of the gun.

  • He clearly wanted to to go after people in the health care industry.

  • So the law is clear.

  • There is no duty to come forward and say that my son did this.

  • Right.

  • I mean, or he may be a suspect in this.

  • If you have actual knowledge that a felony has been committed, federal law would and state law, most state laws would have you compel you to come forward.

  • But generally, if the cops, if the police say, look, we're looking for this person, he may have committed this crime.

  • There's no legal duty, only a moral obligation on friends and family.

  • And that's sort of the gap that we fell into there.

  • I'm particularly focused on the family because they knew he withdrew.

  • They knew he was in pain.

  • They knew he was on meds.

  • They knew he was in distress.

  • And then they see these pictures.

  • And, you know, any parent will tell you, you can you can you know who your kid is.

  • Right.

  • I mean, the eyebrows or the the lips or the chin.

  • You can tell who your kid is even if you haven't seen him in six months.

  • And not only do people who know knew him not turn him in.

  • I mean, look at social media.

  • There is a disturbing amount of support or empathy for the suspect.

  • And some of it's driven by anger that is understandable about the health insurance industry.

  • And yet transferring it and turning it into admiration for somebody that is a suspected cold blooded killer is astounding.

  • Do you think prosecutors should be concerned about this sentiment possibly working in favor of Mangione should he actually go to trial?

  • I think it probably won't sway a jury because it likely won't come much into play.

  • In other words, a jury will will probably not hear this stuff.

  • What I worry about is both the copycats in other words, sort of glorification or the cold status that he may be reaching amongst those who who may not like health care or the way health care is run in in this country.

  • And so you worry about people doing the same thing, going after CEOs, regardless of what your politics is.

  • The other is a larger statement about our country.

  • You and I have talked a lot about the normalization of violence.

  • We don't like it in the political space.

  • I don't like it from the right wing.

  • I don't like it from people who might have progressive sentiments that I may even agree with as a public policy issue.

  • The normalization of violence as the way to come to some solution is damaging for for a democracy and is damaging for our our our civic civic discourse.

  • And so I am shocked by it.

  • I don't like it.

  • And it is it is dangerous.

CNN's Brian Todd is in Towson, Maryland, where he's been tracking down information on the suspect's friends and family.

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