there was something missing and it was that purpose really but when you have success it's so short-lived it's like it really is really short-lived I'm fighting for something far greater than winning a race I'm really fighting for change in the world seeing young kids who are like us but begging for food to me that was that broke my heart I think a lot of people are struggling to find that purpose but it's okay you'll you will find it when you start doing sport at your level even at an early age wins and losses starts becoming so important how have you kind of processed that as time's gone on I feel in racing if I if I would win I could see a smile on my dad's face and it was really like okay if I do well at this I know that I'll be accepted you know but I got to work double hard first was everything yeah in order to be accepted in order to fit in and maybe to be appreciated not only in within my relationship perhaps with my dad but then also around my friends and it was until I got older I realized it's about the bigger picture but when you have success it's so short-lived it's like it really is really short-lived as a racing driver you know the weekend is so intense you've seen it there's so much energy so much it's really really a stressful environment for everyone that's working within it then you go home and there's a huge come down like one or two days later and you're trying to balance those emotions that emotional rollercoaster and learning to kind of channel that and figure out ways to keep it balanced with it with your routine and those sorts of things has been really key for me but I think during the last couple last few years really understanding that it's about the bigger picture I'm fighting for something far greater than winning a race I'm really fighting for change in the world you know we're more divided than ever I would say it's devastating I can't watch the news it's devastating everything's so much happening but there are so many great people out there that doing really great things and I want to be one of I want to be a part of that you were someone that stood out to me massively where I was just like wow this person's really not just winning on on the track but it's thinking about how winning on the track transfers to what you can do off the track because of the influence because of your network because of your impact and I always say that your purpose is something not just that makes you happy it's when you use what makes you happy to serve other people like when you use it to impact other people's lives when did that drop for you like when did that click for you like was there a point at which number one didn't satisfy you or was there a point at which the success that came from it or you didn't actually have to get dissatisfied you just found that there was a better way to be successful as I said I was having a success and I was like okay now I'm on that I'm at the top what can I do with it yeah and there are so many causes there's so many problems out there and there's so many amazing causes and which one you know there's only one of you so like what where do you put the focus and that's take it took a long long time to really find what that was for me I think for me education was something that I felt extremely passionate about because I've been out to India I'd been out into some of the really poorest places like in Manila and seeing young kids who are like us but begging for food not having the same opportunities and for me that was that broke my heart and realized how privileged we are and how fortunate we are I was like I want to be working with people out there that are trying to create more you know there's over a hundred million kids that don't have access to school education so how can I get involved in that so align yourself with people that do but I think I was I was winning and it was giving me that tip of happiness but then I would kind of drop back down to normality and there was something missing and it was that purpose really well understanding what that purpose is and understanding what why you've been put here why you begin the platform that you've that you've been given mission 44 is focused on a much you know societal challenges and barriers and education also just been to Africa and there it's so much beauty there and I really really want to have an impact you know really want to help there as well so yeah that is actually something that's on the top of the list sustainability is on the top of our list and that real true core values we don't go out of our way well you know because a lot of people are it's very easy to kind of be led by money or success but making sure you stick or to the to your core values is so true so I'm gonna say this and I don't say this often I think you're one of the most on purpose people I've ever interviewed I appreciate that I genuinely like it just there's nothing else that comes from your being apart from what your purpose currently is with mission 44 and and it's it's really remarkable to meet someone who's so on purpose I don't I genuinely don't have that experience and the only person you reminded me of was Kobe he had it too when when I was around him there was no there was nothing else it wasn't like he missed anything he was at peace it was there was peace with purpose you know and you have that same aura and spirit from from at least my experience thank you so much so kind of you yeah and I really mean that I really mean that it's incredible sometimes I'm like maybe people don't just don't care maybe people's problems are so big that they don't have time to focus on other things and it's hard enough just to do the thing that you're focused on or just overcoming the issue that you're overcoming so so I feel like it's about learning to be selfless right and which is difficult to do if you're not being loving yourself and not in a good place yeah so I think it all comes to us at hopefully a time at a certain point in our lives but also you know we live in a time where like social media is so it's such a dangerous it's such a powerful tool but it's also can be so dangerous and so dividing and I see people out there today and there's people that I admire that I'm thought that that I would follow and I'd be like how they projecting something that's not necessarily helpful for you for people out there how are they projecting they're not using this platform to be more inspirational or be more positive and there's those that are but then I don't you can't judge you so that's their journey all you can continue to do is try to you know with that Maya Angelou quotes about being shining your light as bright as you can possibly get it and hope that by doing it you I think you automatically encourage the people around you to want to do the same what's something that you thought you valued but you don't value anymore your material stuff at some stage in your life you realize they're not important and we live in such a materialistic world so learning to detach yourself from that and know that it's moments with special people it's moments with your with your family with your loved ones with your friends that are what you get to take with you when you stop we know when life comes to an end right I believe that it's those memories that what yeah memories of you also which lingers not what you had or what you were able to attain so I think that was something that took me a long time to to learn and yeah whilst I still have things I don't have I've actually tried to unclutter my life but we hold on to so many things right so just decluttering your life making it more simple that's why I like I love to go and surfing that's like the most tranquil kind of thing that I get to do sit in the ocean and sometimes just sit and ponder about life what I'm gonna do next and that's my getaway I think people have to find that balance of work because if you just work work work work and you don't replenish your energy with positive things then you will just continue to be breaking yourself down so I try and find that balance I think everyone needs to do that how do you deal with loss and how do you deal with a win I think success is as I mentioned you earlier short-lived success is there's a lot less learn in success it's like the tip of the iceberg it's the losses and it's the failures and it's the continuously just the perseverance that you needed it's finding your core it's letting yourself know it's okay to feel the pain it's okay to accept that your failures it's gonna make you and just knowing that that is the case I've failed so many more times and I've succeeded so many more and that people don't even know being out to control emotions being out to be calm and present staying centered there are loads of obviously different methods that people can use the things that I try to that I've started to incorporate over the years more in my life is meditation has been a real that for me was something that I never thought that that I kind of turned a blind eye to it when I was younger thought that's not gonna be helpful but being out to be sit still for a second and listen to the noises around you and understand you won't tap into that kind of in a child or whatever it may be that's for me been taking that moment for yourself each day treating yourself with love and being kind to yourself you know because I think for a long time I wasn't kind to myself I just listening to you today and it's amazing because and that's what I'm so glad I've had this opportunity to talk to you because I can hear just how deeply dedicated you are to this and how it's at your core it's like it's everything that comes out of your pores today is just you know which is which is really special to see a value being embodied like to empower other people you have to embody the value first it doesn't just you don't just go around empowering people and so to hear how your soul and heart is like completely a sponge for this stuff and then to wanting to go and share it with the world it's really remarkable thank you I mean this I'm by far perfect like it's not about being perfect it's about just every day one step at a time trying to be better trying to do more and learning a lot about myself had to break myself down in order to be out to be better and it's enabled me to connect with more people it's enabled me to realize my place in the world and I don't feel like I don't belong anymore I feel like you know I've got a place and I've got a purpose and that's and I think a lot of people are struggling to find that purpose but it's okay you will find it do not give up keep getting up you know like just keep saying those things to yourself and you will eventually find it you