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  • Like, you have this huge workout, your muscles are ready to grow, and they're like, food!

    比如,你做了大量的鍛鍊,你的肌肉已經準備好生長,它們就像食物一樣!

  • And you're like, you know what you guys are getting instead of food that's a lot like food?

    你會想,你知道你們得到的是什麼,而不是很像食物的食物嗎?

  • And they're like, what?

    他們會說,什麼?

  • And you're like, cardio.

    然後你就想,有氧運動。

  • Nah.

  • And they're like, ah, they don't love that.

    他們就會說,啊,他們不喜歡這樣。

  • And muscles don't love something.

    肌肉不愛的東西

  • They don't tend to grow as much.

    它們不容易長大。

  • Those stupid muscles.

    那些愚蠢的肌肉

  • Hey, folks.

    大家好

  • Dr. Mike here for RP Strength, and today's topic is about cardio and its potential interference with getting you jacked.

    我是 RP Strength 的 Mike 博士,今天的主題是有氧運動及其對增肌的潛在干擾。

  • But in a specific case of doing cardio after your weight training, why are we talking about this?

    但是,在重量訓練後進行有氧運動的具體情況下,我們為什麼要討論這個問題呢?

  • A lot of people will do weight in the gym a couple days a week, train to get jacked and train to get strong.

    很多人每週都會在健身房練幾天舉重,練得膀大腰圓,練得身強力壯。

  • And then afterwards, they know they're supposed to be doing some cardio, or they have cardio to do as part of their fat loss plan.

    之後,他們知道自己應該做一些有氧運動,或者他們有有氧運動作為減脂計劃的一部分。

  • Since they're already in the gym, a lot of times they're just going to do cardio right after.

    因為他們已經在健身房了,所以很多時候他們會在健身後馬上做有氧運動。

  • And it's cool.

    而且很酷。

  • You get to cool down from weights.

    你可以從舉重中冷靜下來。

  • You get to listen to some music.

    你可以聽聽音樂。

  • You get to check out some curves on the other machines.

    你可以在其他機器上查看一些曲線。

  • Scott, what's your policy about staring at people while they're doing cardio from behind when they don't know you're staring at them?

    斯科特,當人們在做有氧運動時,你從背後盯著他們看,而他們不知道你在盯著他們看,你對此有何規定?

  • Are we cool with that?

    我們能接受嗎?

  • Is it YOLO at the gym?

    健身房裡是 "YOLO "嗎?

  • You're wearing yoga pants for a reason, or is it still weird?

    你穿瑜伽褲是有原因的,還是仍然很奇怪?

  • I walk around so they can see me staring at them.

    我走來走去,好讓他們看到我在盯著他們看。

  • Yes.

    是的。

  • I want them to know.

    我想讓他們知道

  • Yes.

    是的。

  • I want you to know that you're the apple of my eye.

    我想讓你知道,你是我的掌上明珠。

  • And then you, and then you.

    然後是你,然後是你

  • I already forgot about you.

    我已經把你忘了

  • I'm noticing you.

    我注意到你了

  • Yes.

    是的。

  • Hi.

    你好。

  • I already feel creeped out, which is good.

    我已經覺得毛骨悚然了,這很好。

  • All right.

    好吧

  • So, in order to figure out the answer to the question of like, is this a bad idea to do cardio after weights?

    是以,為了弄清 "在舉重後做有氧運動是否是個壞主意?

  • Like, are they causing us some kind of muscle growth problem?

    比如,它們是否會導致我們的肌肉生長出現某種問題?

  • Let's take a step-by-step approach.

    讓我們一步一步來。

  • The first question I'm going to ask is, what is the purpose of cardio?

    我要問的第一個問題是,有氧運動的目的是什麼?

  • In our case here, for the purpose of this video, basically it's to burn fat, but also to boost health or to improve cardio performance abilities for some other sport or just your own vibe.

    在我們這裡,就本視頻的目的而言,基本上是為了燃燒脂肪,同時也是為了增強體質或提高有氧運動能力,以適應其他運動或自身的活力。

  • Totally valid.

    完全正確。

  • All kind of same, same for cardio here.

    都一樣,這裡的有氧運動也一樣。

  • Now, what is the purpose of training with weights?

    現在,舉重訓練的目的是什麼?

  • It's not just a workout.

    這不僅僅是一次鍛鍊。

  • These things have two different purposes.

    這些東西有兩種不同的用途。

  • Cardio is fat burning and maybe health and maybe sport performance.

    有氧運動能燃燒脂肪,也許能增進健康,也許能提高運動成績。

  • But for weights, the purpose for our stuff here is to stimulate the muscles to grow or to stimulate the body to get stronger, body being muscles and the nervous system and so on and so forth.

    但對於舉重來說,我們在這裡的目的是刺激肌肉生長或刺激身體變得更強壯,身體就是肌肉和神經系統,如此等等。

  • So, size or strength.

    那麼,是體型還是力量?

  • But notice they didn't say to make them grow, just to stimulate them to grow because the weight training workout actually doesn't result in any muscle gain whatsoever.

    但請注意,他們並沒有說要讓肌肉生長,只是說要刺激肌肉生長,因為重量訓練實際上並不會導致任何肌肉增長。

  • I wish you could just gain muscle in the gym.

    我希望你能在健身房裡長肌肉。

  • I would never leave the gym.

    我永遠不會離開健身房。

  • The reality is you gain muscle in the days after training in which you eat and sleep and rest and relax.

    實際情況是,在訓練後的幾天裡,你可以吃、睡、休息和放鬆,從而增加肌肉。

  • That's when muscle growth happens.

    這就是肌肉生長的時機。

  • But in order to stimulate that growth, to trigger that growth, to get that growth to begin, that's what weight training does.

    但是,為了刺激這種生長,引發這種生長,讓這種生長開始,這就是重量訓練的作用。

  • And after weight training, the body can enter a certain kind of state which optimizes the probability that it'll enter into this growth state at the highest possible level.

    而在負重訓練後,身體可以進入某種狀態,這種狀態可以最大限度地提高身體進入這種生長狀態的可能性。

  • But there are other things we can do to the body after training, maybe one of them's cardio, that may or may not interfere with that cascade process in the muscle cells that says, hey, let's get the growth process started.

    但在訓練後,我們還可以對身體做其他事情,也許其中之一就是有氧運動,這可能會也可能不會干擾肌肉細胞中的級聯過程,即 "嘿,讓我們開始生長過程吧"。

  • So let's ask another question.

    那麼,讓我們再問一個問題。

  • What are the body states during rest after weights versus if we do cardio after weights?

    舉重後休息時與舉重後做有氧運動時的身體狀態有何不同?

  • So if we're resting after weights, like you finish lifting, you go to the locker room, take pictures of your genitals, take pictures of other people's genitals against their informed consent, you go to the parking lot, you start drinking your protein and carb shake, you sit in your car to warm it up while scrolling through your pictures and sending them to your friends, classic stuff everyone does at the gym.

    所以,如果我們在舉重後休息,比如你舉重結束後去更衣室,給自己的生殖器拍照,在未經他人知情同意的情況下給他人的生殖器拍照,然後去停車場,開始喝你的蛋白質和碳水化合物奶昔,坐在車裡熱身,同時滾動瀏覽你的照片併發到朋友圈,這些都是每個人在健身房都會做的經典事情。

  • And what is your body doing, what processes is it undergoing if you just do that and you don't do any crazy physical activity or any cardio right after you lift?

    如果你只是這樣做,而不做任何瘋狂的體力活動或有氧運動,那麼你的身體在做什麼?

  • A couple of things.

    有幾件事。

  • First, you have what's called parasympathetic nervous system dominance.

    首先,你的副交感神經系統占主導地位。

  • Your nervous system, the autonomic nervous system, it's kind of two main modes, the sympathetic nervous system is fight or flight, that's the one that you feel when the crush of your dreams walks by and your heart starts pounding, you urinate yourself as you usually do, that sort of thing.

    你的神經系統,即自律神經系統,有兩種主要模式:交感神經系統是戰鬥或逃跑模式,當你夢寐以求的人走過時,你會感覺到心跳加速,你會像往常一樣小便,諸如此類。

  • The other part is the parasympathetic type of activation, which is the relaxation and recovery part.

    另一部分是副交感神經類型的激活,即放鬆和恢復部分。

  • And parasympathetic activity is huge in facilitating your muscles and the rest of your body for getting those growth pathways opened up as much as possible.

    副交感神經的活動對促進肌肉和身體其他部位的生長非常重要,可以儘可能地打通這些生長通道。

  • So when you're resting after lifting, parasympathetic nervous system dominance is what you get and that is absolutely what you want.

    是以,當你在舉重後休息時,副交感神經系統會佔據主導地位,這絕對是你想要的。

  • In addition to that, blood flow continues to occur throughout the whole body, but it is biased to some substantial extent to recently trained muscles.

    除此之外,全身的血流仍在繼續,但在很大程度上偏向於最近訓練過的肌肉。

  • So if you train your legs, you'll notice that if you sit in your car for a bit afterwards and nice and warm, you drive home, after a 20-minute drive home, you get out of your car and you instantly like take off all your clothes in the street, the children playing, you don't care, you're a savage, you're going to notice that your vascularity is much more intense than usual in your legs because after a workout, your heart will pump blood all over but the vessels in your muscles you just trained are more dilated, which promotes more blood flow, it removes metabolites, it starts to get the growth processes going, all really, really good stuff.

    是以,如果你訓練腿部,你會注意到,如果你在訓練結束後坐在車裡暖和了一會兒,然後開車回家,經過 20 分鐘的車程後,你從車裡出來,立即在街上脫掉所有的衣服,孩子們在玩耍,你不在乎,你是個野蠻人、你會注意到,你腿部的血管比平時更加發達,因為鍛鍊後,你的心臟會把血液泵到全身,但你剛剛訓練過的肌肉血管會更加擴張,這促進了更多的血液流動,它能清除代謝物,讓生長過程開始進行,所有這些都是非常非常好的東西。

  • In addition to that, once...

    此外,一旦...

  • Especially if you eat after training, but even if you don't eat after training, once the training stimulus wears down and you're relaxed, there's more blood flow from the GI tract to recently trained muscles.

    尤其是在訓練後進食,但即使訓練後不進食,一旦訓練刺激消失,人放鬆下來,胃腸道就會有更多血液流向最近訓練過的肌肉。

  • There's more blood flow to recently trained muscles because of their dilation effect but especially if you have a protein shake or you eat your post-workout meal, your GI tract starts to really pump out a lot of blood or there's a lot of blood pump to your GI tract, that blood picks up the nutrients that you're digesting and transports them everywhere but because your muscles that you just trained have more blood flow going to them than normal, you get more nutrients than the normal, which is really, really good for very obvious reasons.

    由於肌肉的擴張效應,有更多的血液流向最近訓練過的肌肉,但特別是如果你喝了蛋白奶昔或吃了運動後的餐點,你的胃腸道就會開始真正泵出大量的血液,或者有大量的血液泵向你的胃腸道,這些血液會帶走你消化的營養物質,並將它們運送到各個地方,但由於你剛剛訓練過的肌肉比正常情況下有更多的血液流向它們,你就會獲得比正常情況下更多的營養物質,這真的非常非常好,原因顯而易見。

  • In addition to that, there is no added local muscle catabolic system activity or activation. mTOR is a pathway or central regulator in the muscle cell that causes a lot of muscle growth to occur if it gets activated and it's activated by the presence of various hormones, myostatin, it's activated by resistance training, duh, that's what grows most of your muscles for you, and there's other pathways.

    mTOR是肌肉細胞中的一個通路或中央調節器,如果它被激活,就會導致大量肌肉生長,各種激素、肌促蛋白的存在會激活它,阻力訓練會激活它,咄,這就是為你增長大部分肌肉的原因,還有其他通路。

  • One of them is called AMP kinase, AMPK, and AMPK is kind of the catabolic regulator.

    其中一種叫做 AMP 激酶(AMPK),AMPK 是一種分解代謝調節器。

  • It's activated by insufficient food, high stress conditions, sympathetic nervous system activity and by continual activity at low-grade endurance levels of that muscle but if you go rest that muscle, you don't get much activity, AMPK in the local muscle, and that means you're not interfering with growth, which is a really, really good thing.

    食物不足、高壓力條件、交感神經系統活動以及肌肉低級耐力水準的持續活動都會激活它,但如果你讓肌肉休息,局部肌肉中的 AMPK 就不會有太多活動,這意味著你不會干擾肌肉生長,這真的是一件非常非常好的事情。

  • Because you're not active in that local muscle, there is no more fatigue being generated in that local muscle.

    因為你的局部肌肉沒有活動,所以該局部肌肉不會再產生疲勞。

  • Fatigue is an excellent stimulus of gains in some cases locally at the muscular level but fatigue after a certain point when your muscle is already well-trained is extra and it's no good and it kind of interferes with that growth cascade.

    在某些情況下,疲勞對肌肉局部的生長有很好的刺激作用,但當你的肌肉已經訓練有素時,過了一定時間後的疲勞是額外的,它沒有好處,而且會干擾生長級聯。

  • So as soon as you're done training a muscle and you rest it, then it's really good that there's no more local fatigue summary.

    是以,只要你完成了肌肉訓練,並讓它休息,那麼就不會再出現局部疲勞總結,這真的很好。

  • And lastly, there's no more depletion of glycogen in that muscle that you just trained.

    最後,剛剛訓練過的肌肉不會再消耗糖原。

  • Glycogen is the internal storage of carbohydrate in your muscles and if your glycogen levels are very high, it actually works to unlock your ability to grow that muscle more.

    糖原是碳水化合物在肌肉中的內部儲存,如果糖原水準很高,它實際上會釋放你的能力,讓肌肉長得更多。

  • If your glycogen levels are very low, very depleted, the probability that muscle growth machinery will activate as much in that muscle is quite substantially reduced.

    如果你的糖原水準很低,消耗得很厲害,那麼肌肉生長機制在肌肉中激活的可能性就會大大降低。

  • So you're not depleting any more glycogen when you're not active anymore.

    這樣,當你不再活動時,就不會消耗更多的糖原。

  • So for all of these reasons, resting a muscle for at least a few hours after you've trained it hard and rest can even involve like some light walking or something like that.

    是以,基於以上原因,在你對肌肉進行了艱苦的訓練後,至少要讓肌肉休息幾個小時,休息時甚至可以進行一些輕微的散步或類似的活動。

  • It doesn't mean you just sit there, but even if you just sit there, it's probably pretty damn good for a bunch of these reasons to get that muscle growth stimulus really turned into actual muscle growth machinery activation, which will stay active for a few days and get you mega jacked.

    這並不意味著你只是坐在那裡,但即使你只是坐在那裡,這可能也是非常好的,因為這些原因可以讓肌肉生長刺激真正轉化為實際的肌肉生長機械激活,從而在幾天內保持活躍,讓你的肌肉變得更加強壯。

  • Now that's what happens if you rest after you do weights.

    這就是舉重後休息的結果。

  • What happens if you do cardio instead?

    如果改做有氧運動會怎樣?

  • First, you can get more activity in the sympathetic nervous system than you otherwise would, which is spider flight.

    首先,交感神經系統的活動會比原來更活躍,這就是蜘蛛飛行。

  • That scales with intensity.

    這與強度有關。

  • If you do really easy cardio, you can actually have no sympathetic nervous system involved at all.

    如果你做的是非常簡單的有氧運動,實際上交感神經系統根本不會參與其中。

  • If it's a really gentle walk, you can actually get further reductions and actually more parasympathetic activity with a light walk sometimes than even total rest on some conditions.

    如果是非常輕微的散步,在某些情況下,輕微的散步甚至比完全休息還能進一步減少副交感神經的活動。

  • But if you're doing some inclined walking that's pretty tough, you're doing a step mill, you're doing the bicycle ergometer or anything that starts to get your heart rate much over 120, 140 plus beats per minute, the higher your heart rate goes and the tougher the cardio is, the more sympathetic nervous system activity occurs and that is not ideal for muscle growth promotion.

    但是,如果你在做一些非常艱難的斜走運動,你在做臺階磨,你在做自行車測力計或任何開始讓你的心率超過每分鐘 120、140 多次的運動,你的心率越高,有氧運動越艱難,交感神經系統的活動就越多,這對促進肌肉生長並不理想。

  • You do get more blood flow to the muscles that are performing cardio.

    在進行有氧運動時,你確實能讓更多的血液流向肌肉。

  • So if you just trained legs and you do cardio with your legs, you walk, there will be more blood flow through your legs, which is by itself not a terrible thing.

    是以,如果你只是訓練雙腿,用雙腿做有氧運動,走路,那麼流經雙腿的血液就會更多,這本身並不是一件可怕的事情。

  • However, if you just train chest and then you go for a jog, because there's only so much blood in your body and because your legs are now taking up a lot more blood circulation, almost by definition, you're going to get a little bit less at least blood circulating from your heart to your chest and back.

    但是,如果你只進行胸部訓練,然後去慢跑,因為你體內的血液只有這麼多,而且因為你的腿現在佔用了更多的血液循環,幾乎按照定義,你從心臟到胸部和背部的血液循環至少會減少一點。

  • And remember, blood flow to the muscles we just trained is generally a good thing, especially if it comes in with nutrients and so that's a bit of a downside right away.

    請記住,血液流向我們剛剛訓練過的肌肉通常是件好事,尤其是在血液中含有營養物質的情況下。

  • In addition to that, there's one really dependable thing with cardio, especially more intense cardio as it scales up, is that the amount of blood flow to and from the GI tract substantially declines.

    除此之外,有氧運動,尤其是強度更大的有氧運動有一個非常可靠的特點,那就是進出胃腸道的血流量會大大減少。

  • So hard cardio after lifting means there's just not a lot of blood flow going on between the GI tract and the muscles you just lifted for and so the feeding of them with nutrients and the promotion of those growth processes is going to be to some extent reduced.

    是以,在舉重後進行劇烈有氧運動,意味著胃腸道和肌肉之間的血流量並不多,是以為肌肉提供營養和促進肌肉生長的作用會在一定程度上減弱。

  • Of course, anytime you activate a muscle and move it around, AMPK is active, but especially if you do it repetitively in a low-grade state, AMPK is activated by cardio reliably.

    當然,只要你激活肌肉並活動它,AMPK 就會活躍起來,但特別是如果你在低級狀態下反覆做,AMPK 就會被有氧運動可靠地激活。

  • So if you're doing cardio after training, you get more AMPK activation in the local muscle.

    是以,如果在訓練後進行有氧運動,就會在局部肌肉中激活更多的 AMPK。

  • It's not a system thing.

    這不是系統的問題。

  • So if you just train biceps but you're doing cardio walking up an incline pretty fast, yeah, your biceps will be totally fine in that regard, but your quads after a quad session, if you go walking, they're going to have higher AMPK activity, which directly suppresses mTOR activity, which actually starts to trigger muscle growth.

    是以,如果你只是訓練肱二頭肌,但你在做有氧運動時以相當快的速度斜著走,是的,你的肱二頭肌在這方面完全沒問題,但你的四頭肌訓練後,如果你去走路,它們會有更高的 AMPK 活性,這直接抑制了 mTOR 活性,實際上開始引發肌肉生長。

  • So you get less muscle growth triggering, which is not ideal.

    是以,對肌肉生長的促進作用較小,這並不理想。

  • In addition to that, especially with harder cardio, you get local muscle fatigue generation.

    除此之外,尤其是在進行強度較大的有氧運動時,局部肌肉會產生疲勞。

  • After you've just trained your calves and you start jogging, you continue to fatigue your calves and after just training them for hypertrophy, the ideal situation is to not fatigue them anymore, to get them to rest and recover and replete and grow, but now you're fatiguing them more, which is not ideal.

    剛訓練完小腿,又開始慢跑,會讓小腿持續疲勞,而剛進行肥大訓練後,最理想的情況是不再讓小腿疲勞,讓它們休息、恢復、再充盈、再生長,但現在你卻讓它們更加疲勞,這並不理想。

  • And of course, we already talked about glycogen.

    當然,我們已經談到了糖原。

  • The lower your glycogen, the worse it is for getting that growth process started.

    糖原含量越低,就越不利於啟動生長過程。

  • If you continue to deplete your glycogen, it's an opportunity missed for putting more glycogen back in there.

    如果您繼續消耗糖原,就會錯失重新攝入更多糖原的機會。

  • So further glycogen depletion for muscles you just trained at the local level is not ideal and that's what happens when you do cardio and deplete the muscle.

    是以,對剛進行局部訓練的肌肉來說,進一步消耗糖原並不理想,這就是有氧運動消耗肌肉的後果。

  • Now again, if you did triceps but you're doing, you know, some kind of incline walking, you're not depleting glycogen from your triceps.

    再說一遍,如果你做的是肱三頭肌運動,但你做的是某種斜走運動,你就不會消耗肱三頭肌的糖原。

  • These are only local things.

    這些只是當地的情況。

  • But as you'll see in a minute, that means that especially after you train legs, maybe hard cardio isn't the best thing you could do.

    但正如你馬上會看到的,這意味著尤其是在你進行腿部訓練後,也許劇烈的有氧運動並不是你能做的最好的事情。

  • So to sum all of this up, how do these state differences affect growth?

    綜上所述,這些州際差異對經濟增長有何影響?

  • And really, the nearly ideal state after training for muscle growth and almost certainly strength development as well is kind of the opposite of all of the states that cardio promotes.

    實際上,訓練後肌肉生長的近乎理想狀態,幾乎肯定也是力量發展的理想狀態,與有氧運動所促進的所有狀態恰恰相反。

  • Especially if you delay your post-workout meal or your post-workout shake and then it's doubly bad because then the GI tract circulation doesn't even get going.

    特別是如果你延後了運動後進餐或運動後奶昔的時間,那就更糟糕了,因為這樣一來,胃腸道的循環根本無法啟動。

  • So what do I mean by that?

    那我這麼說是什麼意思呢?

  • If you have to do 30 minutes of incline walking cardio and you just trained upper body, you can do that cardio and sip on a protein-carb-shake combo and at least you get that going, which is good.

    如果你必須做 30 分鐘的斜走有氧運動,而你剛剛訓練了上半身,那麼你可以一邊做有氧運動,一邊啜飲蛋白質-碳水化合物-奶昔組合,至少你還能做這些運動,這很好。

  • But if you're doing like hard sprint intervals or jogging or a really crazy elliptical and you do that for 45 minutes after your week's workout, that's an extra 45 minutes that your biceps that you just trained are like, hey, when are we getting fed?

    但是,如果你在一週的鍛鍊結束後做45分鐘的短跑、慢跑或非常瘋狂的橢圓機運動,那麼你剛剛訓練過的二頭肌就會覺得,嘿,我們什麼時候才能吃飽飯?

  • And your body's like, shut up and suffer.

    你的身體就會說,閉嘴受罪吧。

  • Like a mini David Goggins pops out in your biceps and punches them in the face.

    就像一個迷你版的大衛-戈金斯從你的二頭肌裡蹦出來,一拳打在他們臉上。

  • They're crying.

    他們在哭泣

  • Their glasses are broken.

    他們的眼鏡壞了。

  • They can't even find their glasses.

    他們甚至找不到自己的眼鏡。

  • That's the situation you're leaving your biceps in, starved for nutrients.

    這就是你讓你的二頭肌處於營養匱乏的狀況。

  • Not starved in the capital S.

    不是餓死在大寫的 S 中。

  • Your biceps are going to die.

    你的二頭肌會死的

  • They're not going to never grow again, but definitely not ideal.

    它們不會再也長不出來了,但絕對不理想。

  • So if instead of probably sitting down or just chilling out and vibing and walking around slow and bebopping and having a meal, if instead of that, you're doing hard cardio and not a meal, you're definitely leaving some potential gains on the table.

    是以,如果你不坐下來,或者只是放鬆一下、放鬆心情、慢悠悠地走來走去、蹦蹦跳跳地吃一頓飯,而是去做劇烈的有氧運動而不吃飯,那你肯定會在餐桌上留下一些潛在的收穫。

  • RP hypertrophy app comes with dozens of premium programs from two days of training per week all the way up to six days of training with specialized programs included for shoulders, arms, chest, back, legs, abs, and glutes.

    RP hypertrophy 應用程序包含數十個高級訓練計劃,從每週兩天的訓練一直到六天的訓練,其中包括肩部、手臂、胸部、背部、腿部、腹肌和臀部的專門訓練計劃。

  • Each one with male and female options.

    每個都有男性和女性選項。

  • You get them all and can use them as often as you like.

    您可以獲得所有這些功能,並且可以隨意使用。

  • Even building off of them to make your own customized version for only about a dollar a day.

    甚至可以在它們的基礎上製作自己的定製版本,每天只需大約一美元。

  • Click on the link in the description of this video to get started.

    點擊視頻描述中的鏈接開始學習。

  • So from all of these scenarios, what is the biggest deal that's going to cost us the most potential muscle growth and how big of a deal is it?

    那麼,在所有這些情況中,什麼才是會讓我們失去最大的肌肉增長潛力的最大交易呢?

  • A couple of things.

    有幾件事。

  • The higher intensity of your cardio, the worse.

    有氧運動強度越大,效果越差。

  • So if you're gasping for air after 30 minutes of cardio, like that will not promote muscle growth as much as it could.

    是以,如果你做完 30 分鐘的有氧運動後就氣喘吁吁,那麼這樣做對肌肉生長的促進作用將大打折扣。

  • Cardio that uses the muscles you just trained is especially bad.

    使用剛訓練過的肌肉進行有氧運動尤其不好。

  • So if you want to do some walking after an upper body workout, it's not a big deal.

    是以,如果你想在上半身鍛鍊後散步,也沒什麼大不了的。

  • But if you just did an upper body workout and you're cranking the elliptical really hard with upper body, that's not ideal.

    但如果你剛做完上半身鍛鍊,又在橢圓機上拼命做上半身運動,那就不太理想了。

  • And of course, after pretty much all of leg training, going and doing hard cardio that involves your legs is definitely not ideal.

    當然,在進行了幾乎所有的腿部訓練後,再去做涉及腿部的高強度有氧運動肯定是不理想的。

  • There's a duration component.

    有一個持續時間的問題。

  • So cardio that takes longer than 30 minutes to do is going to cost you more potential gains than cardio that's shorter.

    是以,與時間較短的有氧運動相比,時間超過 30 分鐘的有氧運動會讓你失去更多的潛在收益。

  • So if you have to do 20 minutes of incline walking after even a leg workout, it's just not that big of a deal.

    是以,如果你在做完腿部鍛鍊後還必須進行 20 分鐘的斜走,那也沒什麼大不了的。

  • But if you have to do an hour of incline walking after a leg workout, it's going to cost you something that might be notable in your results.

    但是,如果你必須在腿部鍛鍊後進行一個小時的斜走,那你就會付出一些代價,而這些代價可能會影響你的鍛鍊效果。

  • And cardio that has a post-workout shake that you drink during it is going to be probably a little bit better for promoting growth than cardio that has just you just aren't eating.

    在有氧運動中,如果你在運動後喝奶昔,可能會比只吃不吃的有氧運動更有利於促進生長。

  • Instead, you're doing cardio.

    相反,你在做有氧運動。

  • Like you have a huge workout, your muscles are ready to grow, and they're like, food.

    就像你做了一次大運動,你的肌肉已經準備好生長,它們就像食物一樣。

  • And you're like, you know what you guys get instead of food that's a lot like food?

    然後你就會想,你知道你們得到了什麼,而不是很像食物的食物嗎?

  • And they're like, what?

    他們會說,什麼?

  • And you're like, cardio.

    然後你就想,有氧運動。

  • No.

  • And they're like, ah, they don't love that.

    他們就會說,啊,他們不喜歡這樣。

  • And muscles don't love something.

    肌肉不愛的東西

  • They don't tend to grow as much.

    它們不容易長大。

  • Those stupid muscles.

    那些愚蠢的肌肉

  • Now here's the thing.

    事情是這樣的

  • None of this is some shit that in almost any circumstance is going to cause you to lose muscle.

    幾乎在任何情況下,這些都不會導致你失去肌肉。

  • None of this in almost every circumstance is some shit that's going to cause you to not make any gains from that workout.

    幾乎在所有情況下,這些都不會導致你從鍛鍊中獲得任何收益。

  • But if you push these variables, you do very hard cardio, definitely don't take a workout shake with it, and you do like an hour or something at the end of each workout, you can mute the degree to which your muscle gains will occur by as much as 50% in some cases.

    但是,如果你推動這些變量,你做非常劇烈的有氧運動,絕對不帶鍛鍊奶昔,並且在每次鍛鍊結束後做一個小時或更長的時間,你就可以在某些情況下減弱肌肉增長的程度,減弱幅度高達 50%。

  • So if you normally would have grown like, I don't know, 50 grams of muscle from a single given workout, then you might only be growing 25 grams of muscle.

    是以,如果你通常在一次鍛鍊中長出 50 克肌肉,那麼你可能只長出 25 克肌肉。

  • Why is this important?

    為什麼這很重要?

  • Because it's something you should know so that you're comfortable with the trade-offs.

    因為這是你應該知道的事情,這樣你才能從容應對取捨。

  • If you're a person that loves cardiovascular fitness, loves being jacked, but isn't like so obsessed with being jacked that they're willing to toss their cardio out to the side, and you have a busy, balanced life, you're a career person, you go to school, you go see people on dates and other people show up to the date, they don't let you down like always, and no one ever shows up, your Tinder profile actually gets people look at it.

    如果你是一個熱愛心血管健身的人,喜歡 "翹臀",但又不至於沉迷於 "翹臀",以至於願意把有氧運動扔到一邊,而且你的生活忙碌而平衡,你是一個有事業心的人,你去上學,你去和別人約會,別人也會來赴約,他們不會像往常一樣讓你失望,而且從來沒有人出現過,那麼你的 Tinder 個人檔案實際上就會有人看。

  • Whatever normal people do, normal people like you, then you might be like, look, I love my 45-minute weight workouts, and I always do 45 minutes of cardio, I only train five days a week, it's an hour and a half, it really unwinds me for the evening, that's what I'm going to do.

    無論正常人做什麼,像你這樣的正常人,那麼你可能會說,你看,我喜歡我的 45 分鐘負重鍛鍊,我總是做 45 分鐘的有氧運動,我每週只訓練五天,一個半小時,這真的讓我在晚上放鬆,這就是我要做的。

  • And I'm okay with making slower gains, but so many gains, hey, look, God bless you.

    收益慢一點我沒意見,但收益多了,嘿,看,上帝保佑你。

  • But if you're a person that's trying to optimize for hypertrophy, and you didn't know that doing hard, long-duration cardio without eating after training, especially for your legs, is like, you're doing all this optimizing your length and partials, you're doing full range of motion, you're doing these complex set and rep schemes, periodization, you're using the RP hypertrophy app, and all of a sudden, you're going out with friends out to eat, you're thinking about your macros a little bit, kind of trying to work healthy, and waking up four or five times per day, you're eating, you wake up in the morning to make sure you get your protein in, and all of a sudden, someone's like, did you know that all that cardio you're doing after your weights takes half of your gains, and just goes, we're not going to be doing that right now?

    但是,如果你是一個人,試圖優化肥大, 你不知道,做硬,長期有氧運動後不吃飯訓練, 尤其是對你的腿,就像,你正在做這一切 優化你的長度和部分, 你正在做全方位的運動, 你正在做這些複雜的設置和代表計劃, 週期化,你正在使用的RP肥大的應用程序,突然間,你會和朋友出去吃飯,你會稍微考慮一下你的宏量,試圖健康地工作,每天醒來四五次,你會吃東西,你會在早上醒來確保你攝入蛋白質,突然,有人會說,你知道你在舉重後做的有氧運動會消耗掉你一半的收益嗎?

  • Oh, man, I feel kind of weird about that, you know?

    哦,夥計,我覺得有點怪怪的,你知道嗎?

  • It's kind of like dating someone for a while, and you're like, we're good, right?

    這有點像和某人約會一段時間後,你會想,我們很好,對嗎?

  • And they're like, oh, this has been super casual to me the entire time, I've actually been like, thinking about what to tell you, I'm done, and you're like, but I got you flowers that had my own literal blood on them.

    他們會說,哦,這對我來說一直都很隨意,我其實一直在想該怎麼跟你說,我說完了,而你會說,但我給你買的花上有我自己的血。

  • Those never arrived, did they?

    那些東西從來沒有到過,是嗎?

  • Scott, you think if she got the flowers with my blood on them, she would be married to me now, or I would be in jail?

    斯科特,你覺得如果她收到了沾有我鮮血的花,她現在會嫁給我,還是我會在監獄裡?

  • Scott Gottlieb Yeah, it's a good thing they didn't arrive.

    斯科特-戈特利布 是啊,還好他們沒到。

  • Trevor Burrus They do actually do marriages in prison, technically, right?

    特雷弗-布魯斯 嚴格來說,他們確實在監獄裡結婚,對吧?

  • Scott Gottlieb Really?

    斯科特-戈特利布 真的嗎?

  • A conjugal visit?

    夫妻互訪?

  • Is that what that means?

    是這個意思嗎?

  • Trevor Burrus Conjugal marriage.

    特雷弗-伯魯斯(Trevor Burrus)的同居婚姻。

  • I wonder where those flowers are?

    我想知道那些花在哪裡?

  • Some old lady's like, Jesus Christ!

    有些老太太會說,上帝啊

  • In any case, just knowing that it can really hamper your gains, but it doesn't make you smaller, and you still get gains, is the thing you should know.

    無論如何,你應該知道的是,它確實會阻礙你的收益,但它不會讓你變小,你仍然可以獲得收益。

  • Now, if you're like, dude, fuck all of that, I still need to do my cardio after training, but I want to do it in such a way that it doesn't cost me a ton, I have recommendations and first, low-intensity cardio doesn't hamper your nearly as much, so ease up on the jogging, do inclined walking instead, and you're already halfway there to costing yourself fewer gains.

    現在,如果你想,老兄,去他媽的這些,我還是需要在訓練後做有氧運動,但我想以這樣一種方式來做,它不會花費我一大筆錢,我有建議,首先,低強度的有氧運動不會妨礙你幾乎一樣多,所以放鬆慢跑,做傾斜步行代替,你已經成功了一半,讓自己花費更少的收益。

  • Cardio that uses other muscles than the just-trained ones, so if you have like two leg sessions and two upper body sessions a week, and you also have two extra cardio sessions a week, put your cardio and make it inclined walking or whatever, you know, jogging or whatever you do for cardio that's only lower body, put it after those upper body workouts, so that after your leg workouts, you're not using those just-trained leg muscles because that local interference, local fatigue, local MBK activation, local glycogen depletion, that's going to be something that interferes much more, so if you're using mostly leg-based cardio, try to do more of it or more intense or more long-duration on the upper body days and vice versa.

    如果你每週有兩次腿部訓練和兩次上半身訓練,而且每週還有兩次額外的有氧訓練,那麼就把你的有氧訓練放在下半身的有氧訓練之後,讓它傾向於散步或其他運動,比如慢跑或其他運動、這樣,在腿部鍛鍊後,你就不會再使用那些剛剛訓練過的腿部肌肉,因為局部干擾、局部疲勞、局部 MBK 激活、局部糖原耗竭,這些都會造成更大的干擾,所以,如果你主要使用腿部有氧運動,儘量在上半身鍛鍊的日子裡做更多的有氧運動,或者強度更大、持續時間更長,反之亦然。

  • Cardio that doesn't last a long time is really good.

    持續時間不長的有氧運動非常好。

  • If it's under 30 minutes, I generally just tend not to worry about it in many cases.

    如果不超過 30 分鐘,在很多情況下我一般都不會擔心。

  • If it's like 45 minutes or an hour of cardio, yeah, like that's going to be a thing, so less duration of cardio is totally good.

    如果是 45 分鐘或一個小時的有氧運動,是的,就像那是一件事,所以有氧運動時間少一點是完全好的。

  • For a lot of people, you know, 15 to 20 minutes of a decent intensity cardio after exercise, especially if it's upper body work and the cardio is lower body, it's just nothing right home about it.

    對很多人來說,在運動後進行 15 到 20 分鐘強度適中的有氧運動,尤其是在上半身運動和下半身有氧運動的情況下,就沒有什麼不妥了。

  • It's almost certainly just barely going to affect you and it's totally good to go.

    幾乎可以肯定的是,這對你幾乎沒有影響,完全可以放心。

  • In addition to that, if you can slam a post-workout shake before cardio or just sip your shakes during cardio if it's low-intensity enough, that's a big deal because it starts to refeed and recover your body even while you're doing the cardio situation.

    除此之外,如果您能在有氧運動前喝上一杯運動後奶昔,或者在有氧運動期間喝上一口奶昔(如果運動強度足夠低的話),那就大有裨益了,因為即使在您進行有氧運動的情況下,它也能開始補充能量並恢復您的身體。

  • And in many cases, if you really minimize these variables and kind of follow this advice for minimization, you're going to get undetectable differences in muscle growth versus no cardio at all.

    在很多情況下,如果你能真正將這些變量最小化,並遵循這些建議將其最小化,你將會在肌肉生長方面獲得與完全不做有氧運動相比難以察覺的差異。

  • And at worst, just a few percentage points less growth.

    最壞的情況也不過是增長少幾個百分點而已。

  • You still get amazing gains, but not quite the best gains you could have gotten, but they're still amazing versus if you really crank that post-workout cardio in kind of all the longest possible ways, then really, you're going to cost yourself like something like halfway your gains in some extreme cases and it's not that great.

    你仍然能獲得驚人的收益,但並不是你能獲得的最好的收益,但它們仍然是驚人的,而如果你真的把鍛鍊後的有氧運動用最長的方式來進行,那麼真的,你會讓自己損失一半的收益,在某些極端的情況下,這並不是那麼好。

  • And even if it's okay, just know that that's what's going on.

    即使沒事,也要知道事情就是這樣。

  • So again, to reiterate something really, really, really, really important, the most likely outcome of flubbing really badly on this and doing a ton of really intense cardio after a lot of your weight training sessions is that you grow less muscle and gain less strength than you otherwise could.

    所以,再次重申一點,非常、非常、非常、非常重要的一點是,如果你在這一點上做得非常糟糕,並且在大量的重量訓練後進行大量高強度的有氧運動,那麼最有可能的結果就是,你的肌肉增長和力量增長都會比原來少。

  • That still means you're gaining.

    這仍然意味著你在增益。

  • And if you ever want to gain much more, just pull back on your cardio and boom, you're unlocking new gains that were always there for you ready for the take.

    如果你還想獲得更多的收益,只需減少有氧運動,"砰 "的一聲,你就能獲得新的收益,而這些收益一直都在那裡等著你。

  • Net muscle and strength loss, like hey, after your cardio, if you didn't do that cardio, you have gain muscle, but because you did it, you actually lost muscle and like a week later, you have less muscle because you've been doing that.

    淨肌肉和力量損失,就像嘿,在你做有氧運動後,如果你不做有氧運動,你的肌肉會增加,但因為你做了有氧運動,你實際上失去了肌肉,就像一週後,你的肌肉減少了,因為你一直在做那個運動。

  • That's much more likely if you are doing really intense, really high volume cardio, like an hour and a half of really intense cardio and really it's folks that are really hypocaloric dieting to try to get leaner or for a show and other such exotic pursuits.

    如果你正在做非常激烈、非常大運動量的有氧運動,比如一個半小時非常激烈的有氧運動,而且真的是那些低熱量節食以試圖變得更瘦或為了表演和其他類似的異國追求的人,那就更有可能出現這種情況。

  • So you're almost certainly not going to lose muscle, which is a big myth that we encounter all the time.

    是以,你幾乎肯定不會失去肌肉,這是我們經常遇到的一個大迷思。

  • People see some kind of person like me or someone, other fitness influencers say, hey, listen, cardio can interfere with gains and for some reason they automatically go, oh my God, that means if I do any cardio at all, I'm going to lose all of my muscle.

    人們看到像我這樣的人或其他有影響力的健身人士說,嘿,聽著,有氧運動會影響收益,出於某種原因,他們會自動去想,天哪,這意味著如果我做任何有氧運動,我就會失去所有的肌肉。

  • And that might happen to you, but that's only because God picked you out and hates you and just zapped you with Zeus invisible lightning and just hit you right in the quads and your muscles melt away because you did one extra step because you parked your car one spot away further than the usual.

    你可能會遇到這種情況,但那只是因為上帝選中了你,憎恨你,用宙斯無形的閃電擊中了你的四肢,你的肌肉融化了,因為你多走了一步,因為你把車停得比平時遠了一個地方。

  • Scott, when you go to various places because now you're a super important or ultra wealthy person, do you have a spot for your car everywhere you go that you understand to be functionally yours?

    斯科特,當你去不同的地方時,因為你現在是一個超級重要的人或超級富有的人,你有沒有為你的車在你所去的任何地方安排一個你認為在功能上屬於你的位置?

  • Yeah, absolutely.

    是的,當然。

  • And others need to understand that as well?

    其他人也需要明白這一點嗎?

  • Yeah.

    是啊

  • That's why I have like the brush guards on my car, so I just push people out of the way.

    這就是為什麼我的車上裝有護刷,這樣我就能把別人推開。

  • Easy.

    簡單。

  • Yeah.

    是啊

  • I'm parking where I'm parking.

    我把車停在我要停的地方。

  • Get out of my way, old lady.

    讓開,老太婆

  • Oh, if you're in a wheelchair.

    哦,如果你坐輪椅的話。

  • Many other jokes that could have followed up that.

    許多其他的笑話都可以接踵而至。

  • I'm just not going to do it.

    我就是不幹。

  • Scott and I are trying to be good people.

    斯科特和我都想做個好人。

  • It's our 2025 new year's resolution.

    這是我們 2025 年的新年願望。

  • Scott, what was your new year's resolution?

    斯科特,你的新年願望是什麼?

  • Be good people.

    做個好人。

  • Yes.

    是的。

  • Yes.

    是的。

  • And we're well on our way.

    我們已經在路上了。

  • And to that end, what is the best approach to timing your weights and cardio from the big picture to zoom out?

    為此,怎樣才能從大處著眼、小處著手,合理安排舉重和有氧運動的時間呢?

  • I'd say the third best approach you could use is to do low intensity cardio as low as you can manage whatever you need for as little as you need, maybe 20 or 30 minutes after your workout while drinking your protein and carb post workout shake.

    我認為第三種最好的方法是,在鍛鍊後 20 或 30 分鐘內做低強度的有氧運動,同時飲用蛋白質和碳水化合物鍛鍊後奶昔。

  • That's damn good.

    真他媽好

  • Even better is to do low intensity cardio for 20 or 30 minutes before your workout while staying hydrated.

    更好的辦法是在鍛鍊前進行 20 或 30 分鐘的低強度有氧運動,同時補充水分。

  • Maybe you have your element pack in there with some water.

    也許你在裡面放了電池包和水。

  • You get your electrolytes and your hydration kind of replenished and then some and basically use that cardio as a little bit of a way to get cardio, a little bit of a warm up.

    你可以補充電解質和水分,然後再做一些有氧運動,基本上是把有氧運動作為一種獲得有氧運動的小方法,一種熱身的小方法。

  • Then you hit the weights and then you just go into your car.

    然後,你就去練舉重,然後就上車。

  • You pull out your protein and your carbs.

    你拿出蛋白質和碳水化合物。

  • You begin to eat them.

    你開始吃它們。

  • You scroll on Instagram to see if the love of your life are unblocked yet.

    你在 Instagram 上滾動,看看你的夫妻是否已經解封。

  • She hasn't even started to cry again but tears are anabolic and I've been clear about that since day one.

    她甚至還沒開始哭,但眼淚是合成代謝物,這一點我從第一天起就很清楚。

  • The ideal thing to do if you still need to do cardio but you also need to do weights and you really want almost no interference effect whatsoever or none really is to split your cardio and weights into two different sessions.

    如果你仍然需要做有氧運動,但也需要做舉重運動,而且你真的希望幾乎沒有任何干擾效果,或者真的沒有任何干擾效果,那麼最理想的做法就是把有氧運動和舉重運動抽成兩個不同的療程。

  • Maybe if you have a regular day job that means in the morning you wake up, you go downstairs, you do your treadmill work, say what's up to the girl in the hotel or the apartment gym that you train at.

    也許,如果你白天有一份固定的工作,這意味著早上起床後,你要下樓,在跑步機上鍛鍊,跟酒店或公寓健身房裡的女孩說你好。

  • You're like, what's up?

    你會問,怎麼了?

  • She's like, hi.

    她說,嗨

  • You're like, it's a busy day today.

    你會說,今天很忙。

  • She's like, it's seven in the morning.

    她說,現在是早上七點。

  • I haven't started my day.

    我還沒開始一天的工作。

  • You're like, right.

    你說的沒錯

  • I meant like an upcoming.

    我是說像即將到來的。

  • I'm just going to do my cardio and she already walked out.

    我正要做有氧運動,她已經走出去了。

  • That's when you do your cardio and then after work, you do your weights workout or the other way around or you get out from work, you do your weights workout, you come home, you have a meal, you chill, pull up her profile again, nothing.

    這時候你做有氧運動,然後下班後做舉重鍛鍊,或者反過來,或者你下班後做舉重鍛鍊,然後回家,吃個飯,放鬆一下,再調出她的資料,什麼都不做。

  • As a matter of fact, Instagram shut your Instagram down because basically Meta is like you can't keep sending this woman messages from different accounts that you're starting.

    事實上,Instagram 關閉了你的 Instagram,因為基本上 Meta 認為你不能繼續從不同的賬戶給這個女人發資訊。

  • You don't know what to do with yourself and then it's maybe 10 p.m. and you go for a nice little cardio walk around the neighborhood or you go back to the gym to talk to that one awkward girl from early in the morning and then you're good to go.

    你不知道自己該做些什麼,也許到了晚上 10 點,你會去附近散散步,做做有氧運動,或者回到健身房,和清晨那個尷尬的女孩聊聊天,然後你就可以走了。

  • So in each case, we separate weights and cardio by multiple hours, probably four at least and then you're good to go and then there's no interference hardly at all.

    是以,在每種情況下,我們都會將舉重和有氧運動分開多個小時,大概至少四個小時,然後你就可以開始了,幾乎沒有任何干擾。

  • If you need any more resources to help you in your fitness journey, including stuff like this, we have the RPI hypertrophy app, there's a link in the description.

    如果您在健身過程中需要更多的資源,包括像這樣的東西,我們有 RPI 肥厚應用程序,說明中有鏈接。

  • We have the RP diet coach app, there's a link in the description.

    我們有 RP 飲食教練應用程序,說明中有鏈接。

  • These apps can take all the big brain thinking and tracking and progression right out of your head and they put it right into your phone and it keeps track of everything.

    這些應用程序可以把你腦中所有的思考、跟蹤和進展都從你的大腦中抽離出來,直接放到你的手機中,並記錄一切。

  • You can customize anything you want.

    你可以定製任何你想要的東西。

  • They're awesome apps.

    它們都是很棒的應用程序。

  • We only made them for two reasons.

    我們製作它們有兩個原因。

  • One is to help you get in exactly the shape that you want and are capable of getting and two is that Mr. Nick Shaw, the CEO of RP tells me that he's absolutely never, ever, ever flying private ever again.

    其一是幫助你達到你想要的和有能力達到的狀態,其二是 RP 公司的首席執行官尼克-肖先生告訴我,他絕對再也不會乘坐私人飛機了。

  • He only wants to fly in his own space shuttle and space shuttles are not free and so he needs the money.

    他只想乘坐自己的航天飛機,而航天飛機不是免費的,所以他需要錢。

  • Please get the app to support Mr. Nick Shaw's exorbitant spending habits and I'll see you guys next time.

    請下載該應用程序,支持尼克-肖先生的高消費習慣,我們下次再見。

Like, you have this huge workout, your muscles are ready to grow, and they're like, food!

比如,你做了大量的鍛鍊,你的肌肉已經準備好生長,它們就像食物一樣!

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