What hate speech are you talking about?

I mean, you use Twitter.

Right.

Do you see a rise in hate speech?

I mean...

Just a personal anecdote.

Like, what do you do?

I don't.

Personally, for you, I would say I get more of that kind of content, yeah, personally.

But I'm not going to talk for the rest of Twitter.

You see more hate speech personally?

I would say I would see more hateful content in that.

Content you don't like or hateful?

What do you mean?

Describe a hateful thing.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, just content that will solicit a reaction, something that may include something that is slightly racist or slightly sexist, those kinds of things.

So you think if something is slightly sexist, it should be banned?

No.

Is that what you're saying?

I'm not saying anything.

I'm saying... I'm trying to understand what you mean by hateful content, and I'm asking for specific Does that mean that it should be banned?

Well, you've asked me whether my feed, whether it's got less or more.

I'd say it's got slightly more.

That's what I'm asking for examples.

Can you name one example?

I honestly don't need...

You can't name a single example.

I'll tell you why, because I don't actually use that feed anymore, because I just don't particularly like it.

A lot of people are quite similar.

I only look at my followers.

Well, hang on a second.

You said you've seen more hateful content, but you can't name a single example, not even one.

I'm not sure I've used that feed for the last three or four weeks.

Well, then how did you see the hateful content?

Because I've been using Twitter since you've taken it over for the last six months.

Okay, so you must have at some point seen for you hateful content.

I'm asking for one example.

Right.

You can't give a single one.

And I'm saying...

Then I say so that you don't know what you're talking about.

Really?

Yes, because you can't give a single example of hateful content, not even one tweet, and yet you claimed that the hateful content was high.

Well...

That's a false.

No, what I claim... No, what I claim was there are many organizations that say that that kind of information is on the rise.

Now, whether it has on my feed or not... I mean... And if it's something like the Strategic Dialogue Institute in the UK, they will say that.

Look, people will say all sorts of nonsense.

I'm literally asking for a single example, and you can't name one.

Right.

And as I already said, I don't use that feed, but let's...

Well, then how would you know?

I don't think this is getting anywhere.

You literally said you experienced more hateful content and then couldn't name a single example. And as I said, I haven't... I haven't actually looked at that feed.

Then how would you know if it's hateful content?

Because I'm saying that's what I saw a few weeks ago.

I can't give you an exact example.

Let's move on.

We only have a certain amount of time.

Well...

COVID misinformation.

Amazing.

You've changed the COVID misinformation.

Has BBC changed its COVID misinformation?

BBC does not set the rules on Twitter.

That's what I'm asking you.

No, I'm talking about the BBC's misinformation about COVID.

I'm literally asking you about...

You changed the labels, the COVID misinformation labels.

There used to be a policy, and then it disappeared.

Why do that?

Well, COVID is no longer an issue.

Does the BBC hold itself at all responsible for misinformation regarding masking and side effects of vaccinations?

And not reporting on that at all?

And what about the fact that the BBC was put under pressure by the British government to change the editorial policy?

Are you aware of that?

This is not an interview about the BBC.

Oh, you thought it wasn't?

I see now why you've done Twitter spaces.

I am not a representative of the BBC's editorial policy.

I want to make that clear.

Let's talk about something else.

I'm interviewing you too.

Alright, let's talk about something else.

You weren't expecting that.

Let's talk about something else.