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  • Hello everyone and welcome to EnglishPod.

  • My name is Marco.

  • My name is Kathryn and today we've got an upper intermediate level lesson for you all about money.

  • That's right.

  • We are trading money.

  • We're actually negotiating in this very popular topic nowadays, the whole foreign exchange market.

  • Okay.

  • So we're talking about currency, which is the money of different countries.

  • For example, the currency of Ecuador is?

  • The U.S. dollar.

  • Yeah.

  • Yeah.

  • Hard to believe, but true. I'll tell you all about it later.

  • Okay.

  • Well, the currency of America is also the U.S. dollar.

  • So with that in mind, let's listen to today's dialogue.

  • Hey John, I haven't seen you in ages.

  • What's new?

  • What have you been up to?

  • Pete, nice to see you.

  • Well, on top of the norm, you know, wife and kids and work, I've actually gotten into doing some trading.

  • Trading?

  • You, big guy?

  • What are you trading?

  • Currencies.

  • Currencies?

  • As in euros, dollars, pounds and rupees?

  • It's called Forex, foreign exchange.

  • The great thing about it is that I don't have to invest a huge amount.

  • I put in a margin deposit and then I can buy and sell up to a hundred times that much.

  • I don't understand.

  • You're buying and selling money?

  • You got it.

  • Just last night, I made 150 U.S. dollars.

  • Last night?

  • Yeah.

  • It's a 24 hour market.

  • I'd bought some RMB earlier at a low asking price, but last night it appreciated drastically.

  • So I made a split second decision and sold all of my RMB at an amazing bid.

  • I've also done some trading with Swiss francs and Australian dollars and Hong Kong dollars.

  • I've made some good profits, but I've also suffered some losses.

  • It depends on a lot of factors just like any other market.

  • In total, I've made about 500 U.S. dollars in the past few months.

  • You're kidding.

  • I'm on.

  • Where do I sign up?

  • Alright, we're back.

  • So this guy is trading currencies as we heard and well, we're going to talk about a lot of the specific vocab that he used about this topic.

  • So why don't we take a look at some of those now in Language Takeaway.

  • Language Takeaway.

  • Well, the first thing I think we should talk about is one of the first things that he says actually.

  • Peter says, I haven't seen you in ages.

  • I haven't seen you in ages, right.

  • So obviously, he hasn't seen him in a long time and that's what in ages means.

  • That's right.

  • So we haven't seen each other in ages.

  • So what other ways can we use in ages or the word ages?

  • Well, you could actually say, it's been ages.

  • So that means it's been a long time.

  • It's been a long time or we haven't gone out for ages.

  • Okay, so then you can use it with for, for ages.

  • For ages, in ages.

  • So the key word here is ages which means a long time.

  • Long time.

  • Okay.

  • And well, he hasn't seen him in ages and the guy is like, well, you know what, I've actually gone into trading.

  • So that means he's started doing some trading.

  • Right.

  • Now, trading is a very broad word because you can trade as in this case, currencies, which is basically to buy and sell currencies.

  • But you could also trade stocks, right?

  • You can trade stocks or even people that are involved in import export.

  • They are involved in trading. So basically, trading is buying and selling something.

  • Right.

  • So you're trading.

  • You are exchanging a product for money or money for a product.

  • But the difference is you're not actually making any products. Okay.

  • So that's, that's called trading.

  • You're not really manufacturing anything.

  • You're just exchanging goods and services and money.

  • All right.

  • So that's for trading.

  • Now moving on, he was explaining how the foreign exchange market works and he says, I don't have to invest a huge amount.

  • I put in a margin deposit and then I can buy and sell up to a hundred times that much.

  • So Marco, here's the question.

  • What is a margin deposit?

  • Because a deposit is basically money that you put, invest somewhere or that you, you pay in.

  • Right.

  • Well, basically a margin deposit is like a percentage.

  • So he basically puts in a percentage of what he intends to buy.

  • So for example, a margin deposit of a thousand dollars might be $1 or $10.

  • Okay.

  • So maybe if it's $10, you're talking about a 1% margin.

  • Exactly.

  • So that's what he means by a margin deposit.

  • And that's why he explains that you don't have to have a large amount of money in order to trade in the foreign exchange market.

  • You just put in a margin deposit and then you can work around that.

  • Well, it sounds pretty easy, but then he explains some more details about it and it gets to be a little bit more complicated.

  • That's right.

  • He explained about how he makes money and how he bought some Chinese renminbi and then he sold it because it appreciated drastically.

  • So he bought it when it was cheap and he sold it when it was expensive.

  • So the price changed. So this kind of price change, when something goes from cheap to expensive, it's called appreciating, appreciation.

  • So the verb is to appreciate.

  • It's very different from using it in the sense of you appreciate someone, right?

  • Like, Oh, I really appreciate you.

  • Yeah, no, it's very different.

  • We could say this about most goods or investments.

  • For example, my parents bought a house in 1970 and the value of the house has really appreciated over the last 40 years.

  • So now the value is much, much greater.

  • And actually just mentioning it while we're on the topic, to appreciate, as you say, is something becomes more expensive.

  • The opposite when something becomes cheaper or maybe the value goes down is to depreciate.

  • Depreciate.

  • So that D at the beginning means it's going down, right?

  • Okay.

  • And moving on to our last word for language, takeaway.

  • So when he was talking about selling the Chinese currency, he said that he sold it at an amazing bid.

  • Okay, let's talk about bid here, B-I-D, bid.

  • What does this mean?

  • So to bid is to place an offer for something.

  • Okay, so for example, at an auction, when someone is selling many old objects or some art, I can bid $100.

  • Right.

  • And maybe someone doesn't accept my bid, but if they do accept my bid, then I pay for it.

  • Right.

  • So basically a bid is just another way of saying an offer.

  • You're offering a certain amount of money for that product or that service.

  • And you see it a lot, for example, on eBay, right?

  • That's right.

  • So eBay is an auction website basically.

  • And someone who's selling something, someone can see many, many bids and they select the best bid.

  • Exactly.

  • So that's what a bid is.

  • So that's all we have for language takeaway.

  • Let's move on now to Fluency Builder.

  • Marco, what have you been up to lately?

  • I never see you.

  • Right.

  • This is actually a very common sentence.

  • What have you been up to?

  • But most English learners don't really understand what it means.

  • Well, this is a really interesting point because I say this all the time.

  • This is very native, very colloquial.

  • What have you been up to?

  • It's almost the same as saying what's up.

  • What's up or where have you been recently?

  • What have you been doing recently?

  • How's your life?

  • Right.

  • So this part, up to, what have you been up to?

  • It doesn't really say much if you translate it literally.

  • But basically it's what have you been doing?

  • What have you been spending your time on?

  • So to be up to means to do something, to do.

  • Right.

  • And there are many other definitions of up to, but in this case, what have you been up to means that.

  • What have you been doing?

  • So next time you see a friend you haven't seen in a week or two, you can say, what have you been up to?

  • Mm-hmm.

  • All right.

  • And John answers, well, you know, on top of the norm, wife, kids, and work.

  • That phrase right there, on top of the norm.

  • Well, the norm here means the normal.

  • That means basically normal life.

  • I've been working.

  • I've got my kids, my wife.

  • On top of the norm, just life is normal. So the norm are the wife, kids, and work.

  • On top of that, I'm actually gotten into trading. So the normal situation, the normal life is wife, kids, and work.

  • And then he's saying, on top of that, I've actually been doing this. Okay.

  • And now moving on to when he's explaining, again, the market and the currencies, he talked about an asking price.

  • Okay.

  • Asking price.

  • This is, remember we were talking about bids?

  • We could say that someone has an asking price, which is the price they would like to receive for an object or a service that they are selling.

  • And so, for example, I'm going to sell my desk.

  • My asking price is a hundred bucks, a hundred dollars.

  • Maybe you don't want to pay that much, but my asking price is the way that I'm going to start.

  • That's how much I want for it.

  • Right.

  • So that's your asking price.

  • That's how much you ideally want to sell it for, but you can negotiate.

  • You are willing to accept maybe a lower offer. Okay.

  • And what is our last phrase?

  • A split second decision.

  • This is really, really important.

  • These words go together very often.

  • Split second and decision.

  • Okay.

  • So that basically means that you made a very quick decision.

  • That's right.

  • Split second.

  • Very fast.

  • It's almost like it's less than a second.

  • And so a split second decision means a decision in no time.

  • It's very, very quick.

  • So we can actually mix split second with other things, right?

  • For example, so maybe you can say he reacted in a split second and avoided the crash. So good for him.

  • He reacted quickly enough to avoid the accident.

  • That's right.

  • So split second, very fast, very quickly.

  • A split second decision, a decision that was made very fast.

  • Okay.

  • So that's all we have for Fluency Builder.

  • Why don't we go back, listen to this dialogue one more time, and we'll be back to talk a little bit more.

  • Hey, John.

  • I haven't seen you in ages.

  • What's new?

  • What have you been up to?

  • Pete, nice to see you.

  • Well, on top of the norm, you know, life and kids and work, I've actually gotten into doing some trading.

  • Trading?

  • You, big guy?

  • What are you trading?

  • Currencies. As in euros, dollars, pounds, and rupees?

  • It's called Forex, foreign exchange.

  • The great thing about it is that I don't have to invest a huge amount.

  • I put in a margin deposit, and then I can buy and sell up to 100 times that much.

  • I don't understand.

  • You're buying and selling money?

  • You got it.

  • Just last night, I made 150 US dollars.

  • Last night?

  • Yeah.

  • It's a 24-hour market.

  • I'd bought some renminbi earlier at a low asking price, but last night it appreciated drastically, so I made a split-second decision and sold all of my RMB at an amazing bid.

  • I've also done some trading with Swiss francs and Australian dollars and Hong Kong dollars.

  • I've made some good profits, but I've also suffered some losses.

  • It depends on a lot of factors, just like any other market.

  • In total, I've made about 500 US dollars in the past few months.

  • You're kidding!

  • I'm on.

  • Where do I sign up?

  • So, Marco, you have to explain this to me.

  • We're talking about currency today, so every nation has a currency.

  • For example, in the dialogue, we learned that India has rupees.

  • Pounds are in Britain.

  • Britain has pounds, and Australia has Australian dollars.

  • America has American dollars.

  • But you just said earlier that Ecuador has American dollars, too.

  • That's right.

  • Actually, Ecuador went through a very difficult economic situation in late 1998, early 1999, where there was hyperinflation.

  • So basically, there was an inflation that was very, very, very large.

  • So that means that the old currency lost its value very fast.

  • Exactly.

  • So, for example, the currency before in Ecuador used to be sucres.

  • So if 10 sucres was $1, all of a sudden it was 50 sucres was $1.

  • Oh, wow.

  • And it got to the point where goods and services went from $3,000 to $1 to $25,000 to $1.

  • Oh, okay.

  • So people have bags full of money, and it's not really worth anything anymore.

  • Exactly.

  • So what happened was the central bank couldn't absorb this currency depreciation.

  • They couldn't really regulate prices.

  • Obviously, salaries were about the same, so you have a lot less money comparatively.

  • And so the government decided that there were two options.

  • Either they would follow Argentina's example, what they did a couple of years before, and set a fixed rate.

  • So in Argentina, it's $3 to $1.

  • Or we would just get rid of our currency and just use U.S. dollars.

  • So that's what they did, right?

  • They used U.S. dollars.

  • And now, if you ever travel to Ecuador, you will use U.S. dollars.

  • The same exact bills that you use in the U.S. are the same exact bills in Ecuador.

  • So no need to exchange currency.

  • No need to exchange currency.

  • And that's why, I guess, there are many factors that people say are a lot better.

  • For example, trading has become a lot less complicated because now you're negotiating in U.S. dollars as in everywhere else in the world.

  • But then other things, as you know, not having a national currency also affects.

  • So there are a lot of things going on.

  • But it's an interesting topic.

  • Very interesting.

  • Well, so maybe for those of you who are listening, you could tell us about your country and your currency.

  • What do you use?

  • What do you spend money on?

  • And do people buy and trade currencies where you're from?

  • Exactly.

  • Or maybe you can even enlighten us with the exchange rate, maybe.

  • Usually, it's a good question to ask, how much is a liter of milk?

  • Or how much is a haircut?

  • Right, because these are things that everyone needs.

  • So the price doesn't change that much.

  • Exactly.

  • We're really curious to know how inexpensive or maybe very expensive your country is.

  • So come to EnglishPod.com and we'll see everyone there.

  • Bye.

  • Norm The money that a country uses Currency The sum of money required to reinstate Margin deposit Taking effect rapidly Drastically Very quickly, just a second Split second An offer to pay a particular amount of money Bid Let's try that faster!

  • The sum of money required to reinstate Margin deposit Something is usual or expected Norm Very quickly, just a second Split second An offer to pay a particular amount of money Bid Taking effect rapidly Drastically The money that a country uses Currency Now say the word and hear it in a sentence Norm Very quickly, just a second What's the norm in this company concerning protocol?

  • Norm This is the norm so you'd better get used to it.

  • Norm Delivery, McDonald's, and street vendors are the norms around here.

  • Currency Before I went to France, I had to change some of my Canadian currency into Euros.

  • Currency What's the currency in this country?

  • Currency Currency My country's currency is worth next to nothing in USD.

  • Margin deposit He decided to start with a margin deposit of GBP 100.

  • Margin deposit I can't believe that I can trade with USD 1 million deposit when I've only put in a margin deposit of USD 10,000.

  • Margin deposit One has to be careful with trading using a margin deposit because the risk of losing more money than one has are high.

  • Split second The gang members were closing in on me fast so I made a split second decision to run instead of fight.

  • Split second My heart pounded as I made a split second decision and took hold of her hand.

  • Split second My split second decision to try a trick on my bicycle in order to impress my friends didn't end well.

  • Bid Bid The current bid ask for EUR USD is 1.3998-79 Bid Bid I bought EUR at an ask of 1.4235 and sold British Ponds at a bid of 1.5001.

  • Bid Bid The bid for JPY and the ask for HKD are really good right now if you trade in US currency.

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