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Uploaded: 2025-04-26T03:32:18.000Z
Duration: 26 min 10 s

動名詞

First of all, President Chen, thank you so much for inviting me.

首先，陳主席，非常感謝您的邀請。

頻率副詞

Actually, you invited me several times to come to NTU and I was honored every time to come here, but sometimes when I come to Taiwan, it's very, very busy and especially around Computex timing, it's always very busy.

其實，您邀請我到臺大來了好幾次，每次我都很榮幸能來，但有時我到臺灣來，那裡非常非常忙，尤其是在Computex前後，總是非常忙。

情態助動詞 A2

So this is actually a great time that I can visit and thank you for the warm invitation and Professor Wu as well, thank you so much.

是以，現在是我能來訪的大好時機，感謝你們的熱情邀請，也感謝吳教授，非常感謝。

It's really my pleasure to be here to meet all of you very talented students and you make me feel very old, but hopefully I can give you a few stories for your career.

我很高興能在這裡見到你們這些才華橫溢的學生，你們讓我覺得自己很老了，但我希望我能給你們的職業生涯講幾個故事。

So maybe I should say my background was in electrical engineering and computer science, so that's where I went to school for MIT for bachelor's, master's and PhD and my specialty was semiconductor devices.

也許我應該說我的背景是電子工程和計算機科學，所以我在麻省理工學院攻讀了學士、碩士和博士學位，我的專業是半導體器件。

So when I was a young student, that is what I studied.

是以，當我還是一名年輕學生時，我就開始學習這門課程。

Now for AMD, I've been in the semiconductor industry for over 30 years and what you find is that the technology moves so fast.

對於 AMD，我已經在半導體行業工作了 30 多年，你會發現技術發展是如此之快。

So for AMD, I've been with the company since 2012 and CEO since 2014 and probably the most important thing with any company is to decide what do you want to be when you grow up.

對於 AMD 來說，我從 2012 年開始在公司工作，從 2014 年開始擔任首席執行官，對於任何公司來說，最重要的事情可能就是決定自己長大後想做什麼。

And for AMD, my belief is that our specialty is in high performance computing and high performance computing is really at the center of all of our lives today.

對於 AMD 來說，我認為我們的專長是高性能計算，而高性能計算確實是我們今天生活的中心。

I'd like to say that AMD's technology touches billions of people every day, whether you're talking about cloud data centers or you're talking about anywhere in the edge of the network or you're talking about PCs or automotive or industrial, you probably can touch some of AMD's technology.

我想說的是，AMD 的技術每天觸及數十億人，無論你談論的是雲數據中心，還是網絡邊緣的任何地方，抑或是個人電腦、汽車或工業領域，你或許都能接觸到 AMD 的某些技術。

But from a technology company, the most important thing is you have to have a long-term strategy and roadmap and so our focus was really on three things.

但對於一家技術公司來說，最重要的是你必須有一個長期戰略和路線圖，是以我們的重點其實是三件事。

The second is to have really excellent partnerships.

其次是建立真正出色的夥伴關係。

So TSMC is at the center of our partnership overall.

是以，臺積電是我們整個合作關係的核心。

And then the third piece is that the semiconductor industry is changing and many of you have heard that Moore's Law is slowing down and changing and we made a big bet on triplet technology as a very key area going forward.

第三點是半導體行業正在發生變化，很多人都聽說摩爾定律正在放緩和改變，我們在三重技術上下注很大，將其作為未來的一個非常關鍵的領域。

So these are some of the things that were important for AMD and today, I'm very happy to say that when you look at the top supercomputers in the world, we have five out of the top ten supercomputers are based on AMD's technology and from that standpoint, I really feel that high performance computing is at the center of what's most important going forward.

今天，我非常高興地告訴大家，在全球最頂尖的超級計算機中，我們有五臺採用了 AMD 的技術，從這個角度來看，我真的覺得高性能計算是未來最重要的核心。

So I heard that many students still view that chip design is the most exciting thing.

是以，我聽說很多學生仍然認為芯片設計是最令人興奮的事情。

I would say that there's always a movement.

我想說的是，運動總是存在的。

Sometimes hardware is more exciting, sometimes software is more exciting.

有時硬件更令人興奮，有時軟件更令人興奮。

I think from my standpoint, the most exciting part of design is actually holistic design.

我認為，從我的角度來看，設計最令人興奮的部分其實是整體設計。

So you have to really design hardware and software and systems together, especially when we're talking about AI going forward.

是以，你必須真正將硬件、軟件和系統結合在一起設計，尤其是當我們在談論未來的人工智能時。

You actually have to think about what is the overall system application, especially thinking about the algorithms and the applications and then you can think about how do you want to design your chips.

實際上，你必須考慮整個系統的應用是什麼，特別是考慮算法和應用，然後再考慮如何設計芯片。

The one thing I can say about AI industry is every week there is a new technology and innovation that is coming out and I think DeepSeek was one of those areas.

關於人工智能行業，我可以說的一點是，每週都會有新的技術和創新問世，我認為 DeepSeek 就是其中之一。

When it came out in January, I think there was some surprise.

當它在一月份問世時，我想大家都有些驚訝。

There was some surprise and when you look at what they've done, it's actually pretty clever technology in terms of really gathering all of the different innovations using the mixture of expert models and so on and so forth.

當你看到他們所做的一切時，你會感到有些驚訝，實際上，這是一項非常聰明的技術，它利用專家模型等的混合，真正收集了所有不同的創新成果。

But the main thing that we saw with DeepSeek is when you can find a way to make AI more accessible and actually cheaper, you actually will have more usage and application of AI.

但是，我們在 DeepSeek 上看到的主要情況是，當你能找到一種方法，讓人工智能更容易獲得，而且實際上更便宜時，你實際上就會有更多的人工智能使用和應用。

So the main thing that DeepSeek has done is it really has accelerated the application of AI.

是以，DeepSeek 所做的主要工作就是加速人工智能的應用。

Of course, that's not a market statement.

From everything that we see, the key point about AI is that there's no one size fits all for the computing ecosystem.

從我們所看到的一切來看，人工智能的關鍵點在於，計算生態系統並沒有一個放之四海而皆準的模式。

You have the very large frontier models where the few people who can invest at that level, hundreds of billions of dollars, are going to go as fast as possible because they want to build the best model.

你有非常大的前沿模型，在這些模型中，少數幾個有能力投資數千億美元的人，會盡可能快地進行投資，因為他們想建立最好的模型。

But you also find that that is just one application of AI.

但你也會發現，這只是人工智能的一種應用。

You also see there will be many different medium-sized models, smaller models, and you will see that people will use different algorithms to get there.

你還會看到會有許多不同的中型模型、小型模型，你還會看到人們會使用不同的算法來達到目標。

So my expectation is that there will continue to be a very significant investment, including very large investments, as well as more affordable investments going forward.

是以，我的預期是，今後將繼續有非常重要的投資，包括非常大的投資，以及更實惠的投資。

So the most important thing I can say about AI is that the market is huge.

是以，關於人工智能，我最想說的是，市場是巨大的。

We expect that the market over the next three or four years will be a $500 billion area.

我們預計，未來三四年的市場規模將達到 5000 億美元。

And in that type of market, you need all different kinds of computing.

在這樣的市場中，你需要各種不同的計算能力。

There's no one company that has all of the solutions.

沒有一家公司能提供所有的解決方案。

Actually, my view is that you need every kind of computing.

實際上，我的觀點是，你需要每一種計算。

You need CPUs, you need GPUs, you need ASICs, you need FPGAs.

And in that framework, I think our AI strategy is, number one, to have a very complete solution.

在這個框架內，我認為我們的人工智能戰略首先是要有一個非常完整的解決方案。

So complete solution includes hardware, software, and systems.

是以，完整的解決方案包括硬件、軟件和系統。

And the second piece is to have an open ecosystem.

第二塊是要有一個開放的生態系統。

One of the most important things is to foster collaboration and to have an open ecosystem.

其中最重要的一點就是促進合作，建立一個開放的生態系統。

And that way, people can learn from each other.

That was also another important part about DeepSeek, is it was an open model.

這也是 DeepSeek 的另一個重要部分，因為它是一種開放模式。

And as a result, many people innovated on top of that.

是以，許多人在此基礎上進行了創新。

So my answer to your question is, the main thing to say is the market is huge.

所以，我對你的問題的回答是，最主要的一點是，市場是巨大的。

And our AI is throughout every aspect of our business, including the largest data centers to even at the PC level.

我們的人工智能貫穿於我們業務的方方面面，包括最大的數據中心，甚至是個人電腦層面。

We believe that there will be a lot of AI.

我們相信，人工智能將大行其道。

So there's a lot of market for all of us.

So I think the Taiwan ecosystem is very special.

是以，我認為臺灣的生態系統非常特別。

And when you look at the Taiwan ecosystem, starting from the TSMC ecosystem, which really has built this incredible manufacturing capability.

再看看臺灣的生態系統，從臺積電生態系統開始，臺積電確實建立了令人難以置信的製造能力。

And then including all of the ODM, OEM ecosystem, manufacturing ecosystem, design ecosystem.

然後包括所有 ODM、OEM 生態系統、製造生態系統和設計生態系統。

And I think more investment on the software and system side will come in.

我認為，軟件和系統方面的投資將會增加。

From an AMD standpoint, we're very proud of our team here in Taiwan.

從 AMD 的角度來看，我們為臺灣的團隊感到非常自豪。

It's a very important piece of our overall R&D.

這是我們整體研發工作中非常重要的一部分。

But the other thing I would say is, in this world today, the ecosystems are very interconnected.

但我要說的另一件事是，在當今世界，生態系統之間的相互聯繫非常緊密。

And from a United States standpoint, I think we do rely on a lot of the Taiwan manufacturing ecosystem.

從美國的角度來看，我認為我們確實非常依賴臺灣的製造業生態系統。

And trying to build resilience into that ecosystem is important.

在生態系統中建立復原力非常重要。

I'm happy to say that I was born in Tainan, and my parents immigrated to the United States.

我很高興地說，我出生在臺南，父母移民到了美國。

And as you can imagine, that was a very big move for them.

可以想象，這對他們來說是一個非常大的舉動。

And when we went to the US as a family, I think the key part that my parents always instilled upon me is, education is so important.

當我們全家去美國的時候，我覺得父母一直向我灌輸的一個重要理念就是：教育非常重要。

So for all of you in school, I remember when I was in school at MIT, I very much wanted to finish school.

是以，對於所有在校學生來說，我記得我在麻省理工學院上學時，非常想完成學業。

So after my bachelor's degree, I actually thought I should finish school and go to work.

是以，在獲得學士學位後，我實際上認為自己應該完成學業，然後去工作。

And my parents said, no, Lisa, you cannot do that.

我父母說，不，麗薩，你不能這麼做。

They strongly, strongly suggested I get a PhD.

他們強烈建議我攻讀博士學位。

And at the time, I was very impatient, very impatient.

當時，我非常不耐煩，非常不耐煩。

I was like, school is enough, it's enough.

我當時想，學校就夠了，夠了。

Because what you get from your university and your graduate school is really an opportunity to learn many different things.

因為你從大學和研究生院得到的，確實是一個學習許多不同東西的機會。

And to build the confidence to really solve the future problems.

並建立起真正解決未來問題的信心。

So even though I was not happy with my parents at the time, I think they were absolutely right.

是以，儘管當時我對父母並不滿意，但我認為他們是完全正確的。

And as the experience to be CEO of AMD, I would say it was kind of my dream job to start from a semiconductor engineer, to become a business person, and then become a semiconductor leader.

作為 AMD 首席執行官的經歷，我想說，從一名半導體工程師開始，到成為一名商務人士，再到成為一名半導體領導者，這是我夢寐以求的工作。

But it was not easy, especially in those early years.

但這並不容易，尤其是在早年。

And my parents and family have always been very, very supportive of that.

我的父母和家人對此一直非常非常支持。

My thinking is that there are many different kind of leaders.

我的想法是，領導者有很多種。

And we have a lot of respect for all kinds of leaders.

But I truly believe that the university education is so helpful.

但我真心相信，大學教育對我們大有裨益。

Like these years that you're in the university is really the best time to learn and to decide what you enjoy the most so that you can decide your next step in your career.

就像你在大學的這幾年，確實是學習的最佳時期，也是決定你最喜歡什麼的最佳時期，這樣你才能決定你職業生涯的下一步。

First of all, I have a tremendous respect for Jensen.

I think as a founder of Nvidia, he has really built an amazing company.

我認為，作為 Nvidia 的創始人，他確實創建了一家了不起的公司。

I would say that we run independent companies though.

但我要說，我們經營的是獨立的公司。

So probably as a semiconductor industry, we do have a semiconductor industry association in the US, for where all semiconductor companies are there.

是以，作為半導體行業，我們在美國確實有一個半導體行業協會，所有的半導體公司都在那裡。

And together in that forum, we would exchange some ideas.

在這個論壇上，我們一起交流了一些想法。

So I can say for, in my experience, I had one piece of probably the best advice that I received from a mentor.

是以，我可以說，在我的經歷中，我從導師那裡得到的最好的建議可能只有一條。

Was to tell me, Lisa, whatever you do, I would suggest that you pick the hardest problems.

麗莎，不管你做什麼，我建議你挑最難的問題做。

So the advice they gave me is to run towards problems.

所以，他們給我的建議是，遇到問題就跑。

And actually, I think that's the best advice that I can give students.

實際上，我認為這是我能給學生的最好建議。

Because there's so many interesting things to do in the world.

因為世界上有太多有趣的事情可做。

Choosing a project or a problem or a company where you can make a big impact, you will learn so much and be able to contribute so much.

選擇一個你能產生重大影響的項目、問題或公司，你就能學到很多東西，做出很多貢獻。

And I can say for sure that I learned the most from the biggest mistakes I made.

我可以肯定地說，我從我犯過的最大的錯誤中學到了最多。

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