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  • Hank: You know, I feel about kids the way I feel about most people.

  • Which is, most of them are annoying.

  • And they're just like annoying short people.

  • (music)

  • Then my girlfriend and I got pregnant.

  • That's preg and nant.

  • (woman laughs)

  • So I started this journey of asking everyone I could see,

  • Man: What's up in there?

  • Hank: Why did you want to become a father?

  • How did you handle it?

  • How did it change your life?

  • (baby's heartbeat)

  • Woman: No.

  • Hank: Oh, no way!

  • Woman: Oh, it's real!

  • Hank: And this is what people said to me.

  • Man: I'll talk to you again when he's in prison.

  • Kevin: The kid is doing something that you don't want them to do.

  • Hank: Mm hmm.

  • Kevin: You'd say, "That's one."

  • You do it without emotion.

  • They continue to do it, you say, "That's two."

  • They continue to do it, you say, "That's three."

  • You take them and you gently put them in their room,

  • and you close the door.

  • You don't yell, you don't scream, you don't throw them in there,

  • and you don't do anything.

  • Hank: Uh huh.

  • Kevin: And then they come back out.

  • They start to do it again, you say, "That's one."

  • It worked like a charm.

  • Hank: Really, that sounds good.

  • Kevin: It's really good.

  • Hank: Now, how old do you start this?

  • Kevin: Well, I mean, well soon as they learn to count (laughs).

  • (writing sounds)

  • Hank: We're in a phase with Hal.

  • He's been difficult.

  • The 3's, he's 3 years 7 months now.

  • 3 and a half.

  • Very willful and he had no tantruming stuff going on,

  • as a 2 year old.

  • Hal: (laughs)

  • Hank: But he's been on kind of a tear.

  • Well now you've smashed (smashing sound).

  • Oh my goodness.

  • (smashing sound)

  • Oh wait.

  • Hal.

  • Let's not, because that actually could break it.

  • They get to an age too, where everything they do,

  • needs a certain amount of uh, uh, uh.

  • No, no, no.

  • Or that's not the way I want you to do that,

  • or I didn't, no, that wasn't how we were supposed to do it.

  • (typewriter sounds)

  • Bryan: We hear the terrible 2's and we go,

  • "Hey we made it through!

  • "No problem!

  • "We're in good shape."

  • And then 3 happens and it's like, no!

  • Rainn: No!

  • Man: (growling sound)

  • Hank: You do this now!

  • Hal: No!

  • Mike: No.

  • Man: (growling sound)

  • Hal: (crying)

  • Jill: I was just playing with the blocks!

  • Hank: (mock crying)

  • Bryan: No!

  • What?

  • No!

  • I hate you!

  • Rainn: He just says no to everything.

  • "Okay, put on your socks, it's time to go."

  • "No!"

  • It's like, "Well do you want to go?"

  • "Yeah."

  • "Well then you need to put on your socks."

  • "I don't wanna put on my socks!"

  • Joshua: She would physically like (yells), banging her legs,

  • lying on the floor.

  • It was like 'Nam.

  • I'd go in for a little bit, see what I could do.

  • Then I'd come out and be like, "Get in there!"

  • Hank: (laughs)

  • Joshua: "See what you can do. I'm done, like, I'm done."

  • Stephen: I saw him walk into the middle of the book shop,

  • and kind of go, "Where's the spot? There's a few people over there,

  • "there's a few people over there."

  • And then get down on the ground and wail.

  • He kind of positioned himself before doing it!

  • Mike: He just turns into like a sack of potatoes.

  • He'd get like 700 pounds heavier somehow.

  • If it's, "Daddy carry, daddy carry," he's like feather light.

  • Hank: Right.

  • Mike: But if it's, "No," it's like (roaring sound).

  • Hank: The second he turned 3 he was a maniac.

  • Hal: (yelling)

  • Dr. Berlin: And I think it's more 3's than 2's,

  • because in 2's they're still distractable.

  • They're also still small enough,

  • that if you need to physically remove them you kind of can.

  • Hank: Yeah.

  • Dr. Berlin: At 3 now, they're really savvy.

  • They're not going to be distracted by something shiny,

  • that you're going to wave in front of them,

  • and they're really invested.

  • They're going to dig those heels in,

  • and they're not letting up.

  • Hank: Well, you know what the main no-no of tantrums is right?

  • Man: I don't know.

  • Hank: Really?

  • Man: Yeah.

  • Hank: Well, you don't want to give in.

  • You don't want to give them what their tantruming over.

  • Man: Oh, got you.

  • Jill: What the child learns is,

  • I just escalate the intensity of my emotion,

  • and I will get what I want, okay?

  • It's literally Pavlovian and it works.

  • Michele: It's how you handle it the first or second time,

  • is whether or not it's going to increase or decrease.

  • Hank: Right.

  • Michele: That's the secret.

  • Wendy: I think you have to qualify it by saying,

  • "What has led up to it?"

  • Is the child sick, is he tired?

  • Tim: Something's off in their chemical make-up.

  • Hal: (crying)

  • That's physical.

  • What it isn't, is this little child is actually evil and hating me.

  • It's not that.

  • Jean: The first advice I always have,

  • is never respond to a tantrum with a tantrum yourself.

  • Michael: You're thinking, "Wait I'm loving this child,

  • "and this child is clearly enraged at his or her helplessness."

  • Maureen: We have to help them learn how to manage,

  • their emotions and their energy, and how to bring that into the middle.

  • For healthy social, emotional experiences.

  • David: All you can do is model positive behavior,

  • encourage positive behavior, create consequences for negative behavior,

  • and then hope that feelings are going to follow.

  • Hal: Noooo!

  • Michele: You know, a lot of power struggles can be minimized,

  • if parents say, "I know you're really busy playing,

  • "we need to stop in 5 minutes because we need to get ready,

  • "to go pick up your brother."

  • Hank: Mr. Hal, 5 more minutes of poker and then you got with Mama.

  • 5 more minutes of poker.

  • Greg: They are looking for a rule book,

  • and they will push every button until they get no.

  • Michele: The longer you give a temper tantrum attention,

  • the longer it lasts.

  • Tim: Calm is a good way to approach it.

  • I'm calm, I'm sane, this is an insane person.

  • Make sure they don't hurt themselves,

  • but there's no way they can be rational right now.

  • Michele: And then you can talk about it when it's all done.

  • Hank: I got to count down from 5 and then I got to go.

  • Hal: Wait, wait, wait.

  • Hank: 5, oh don't take your mittens off, 4.

  • Hal: No, wait.

  • (toy dropping)

  • Hank: Here's the problem with what you just did,

  • now we got to clean that up.

  • Thank you.

  • Come on, out the door.

  • Two choices.

  • You can walk or I can carry you.

  • 1, 2.

  • Thank you so much.

  • Jill: The best line I ever read in a book was,

  • "You can indulge your kids, you can give them everything they want,

  • "you can let them stay at the toy store when they want to,"

  • and this, that, and the other thing.

  • "Go to bed late," whatever, "but when they go out into the world

  • "they're going to get rejected by peers,

  • "and they're going to get into behavioral trouble with teachers.

  • "So either you teach them within the loving boundaries of your home,

  • or throw them to the wolves. What do you want to do?"

  • Hank: "You do this now!"

  • He'll just order you around.

  • Kind of like, whoa.

  • There's some things about him that are spoiled.

  • It's as big as you.

  • (toy dropping)

  • Hal: (laughs)

  • Hank: You smashed it.

  • Now we're going to have rebuild our whole city.

  • And actually I realized a second and a half,

  • like I missed an opportunity there when he smashed the train,

  • I was still playing with that.

  • In fact, I was mid-play.

  • That's what's hard for me.

  • You got to be concentrating and on it.

  • It's not for the faint hearted, this stuff.

  • It's things like this that I really feel like you need to pay attention to.

  • It's the whole point of what we're doing here.

  • Sort of bring these things to light.

  • Like, "Okay, made a mistake there. Let's try to get back on track."

  • (writing sounds)

  • That train, I think is, whoa!

  • That train's so big he's going to break everything.

  • Did you want to break everything?

  • Hal: (laughing)

  • Hank: Because now the bridge is coming down.

  • It's like Godzilla came.

  • You're like Godzilla.

  • Do you know what Godzilla is?

  • Hal: What?

  • Hank: Well, first of all, it almost ended Dada's career.

  • That's the first thing about it (laughs).

Hank: You know, I feel about kids the way I feel about most people.

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