Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles terry dot com but i had to call our listener forwarded your phone w along and i just about everything philosophical property vision and primarily later advocate of government solutions are making government bigger and what that does is that protect people the money or the corruption goes to where the powers and when government has power it's no surprise that we have all this the billions of dollars being spent on idled by lobbyists and as more lobbyists in washington state and during the bush administration yes and and as a result we have copter julia pro-russian where the politically connected interest get the money and the preparatory tree favorable regulatory and them but maybe i am a treatment at a hearing yen now i am not just billy bob another screen with it all out let me just ask you a question gift you are right that where the money is there is power and where the power as they were all inevitably be corruption how are you going to stop corruption within the largest corporations in america you make them uh... accountable to consumer preferences in business purposes rather than political clout uh... but if they have monopolies they aren't interested to hear about consumer interests or political interests you know in france everybody pretty much every body in france for less than forty dollars a month has hundred method uh... broadband has over a hundred channels of television and can call any denny way a unlimited telephone calls on their cell phone or their home phone so over thirty countries in europe white because the french government intervene in the marketplace and said whoever owns the wire or whoever owns the the uh... the g_-three line three-stage restrict anybody else from karen content over at heather words the forced competition as he got hundreds of small companies in france competing for the broadband business for the t_v_ business for the phone business and that's why the average american spends over three hundred dollars a month for the french get for over forty and the french companies are all profitable by the way so the question again monopoly the essence of upa lee is to destroy competition that's why companies for monopolies as weather street companies that own more than eighty percent of our agriculture in the united states are they did the growth technical training in gray never called me that that on the seven companies the control most americans you've got five companies now they control more than eighty percent of our media you've got uh... the uh... three companies they control most of our manufacturing base large main fascia we have three or four companies to control most of the computer business visit beyond im go and what these them the the mandate of these companies is to prevent competition the banks we went from from the big and banks down the big six banks now they're too big to fail how do you prevent them from being corrupt personal if you don't in america about quick scenarios bought you got a look at propping up the question two parts first of all the way they became a monopoly was to be it was facilitated by government because these guys have all the money so they go to government makes it look to provide us with favorable regulatory regime air regulations always benefit the big guy but look at it doesn't have the wherewithal to handle these regulations so that the first step in creating about that it's there that is actually very options that is very actually very often true when you find is that there basically to gaza regulations and the majority of regulations on the books by the kind that you described where lobbyists have gone to government you know the the classic example is the guy he used to work a double it was monsanto uh... when they develop genetically modified products during the bush in the uh... drawer urge herbert walker bush administration went to work for the u_s_d_a_ wrote the regulations to regulate those so that basically only monsanto could get into business and then left the u_s_d_a_ and went back to my sent or men went back to lobbying from the word from on senator and that happens over over over here do we need to put a stop to that but how do you put a stop to that i can i just don't you get the government facilitate this it's so how do you stop the government of doing that moderate sergeant scope of government you don't do you want to give them more power and you can't beat up by kevin or more power what i could get one stocks the government from being corrupted by monopolies who were more women cover on hand and and get laws passed their benefit only the monopolies what you're trying to do it time to give you a secret devoured her audience you take the money and the power of the hands of the government never start back to main street that the people bob that sounds really really nice so you and i are going to uh... decide what the regulation should be a budget item on a flight organisms what we decided to consumer preferences every single day we carry our ability to put it in a store we get the pope action actually don't actually don't bob to you when you walked through that store and most of the products that store are made by fewer than fifty companies andrea white which is step was why because and i and i'm telling you that if you want to know if you want if you want if you do not want to have the novel in the united states the only solution only way to prevent monopoly in this is this is like capitalism one oh one this is just adam smith his whole argument that that the phrase the invisible hand that he was talking about was was an argument in favor of government preventing monopolies add to go back and read wealth of nations seventeen seventy six and it has is held true all the way up until today if u want to prevent monopolies you have to do a teddy roosevelt did back in the nineteen teens we broached irrelevant twenty nine companies what what richard nixon jimmy carter did when they broke a t_n_t_ opinion nine companies what would a what stopped in nineteen eighty two in nineteen eighty-two ronald reagan said we're no longer going to enforce the sherman antitrust act it stated that on the books that when a hundred and one years he said we are going to enforce that law and what do we get we got michael milken leah mergers acquisitions mania we had we had all these guys becoming multi-billion airs and hundreds of thousands millions of people losing their jobs hundreds of smaller companies got bought out by one company which no longer needed a hundred bookie personally art nine item no longer needed now you know hundreds of middle managers only dot any item we came we the corporate america became a little more efficient america as a nation and the working class america became a whole lot less efficient and that's because governments stopped doing its job of protecting us from big corporations and here's his here's the is the fall on your logic bob and you pointed out the for the flaw in the logic of anybody who says big government is wonderful i'm not saying that i've ever said that uh... but the flight airline ticket is that the only countervailing power to organize capital is organized people and i can take one of two forms he can either take the form of an organized educated populace as thomas jefferson talked about which is called a government the united states of america or he can take the play it could take the form of a democracy within the workplace which is called a union they're out there i i don't know other ways that you can balance the power of organized capital deal in a little bit what's what sir i don't know hero pulpit was incomplete every time we've had laws against monopolies in this country those products and services oppose suppose monopolies were provided that they're going down all three years away but they took ran a monopoly is an unsustainable model first of all the company that will accept son market or over port-au-prince it or handicaps are still at the kind of thought prices tell that to microsoft uh... food replicated cuban government chart show of managing what i'm saying is that crazy that we the people that our government is ask first of all and or should be it if it's not when you take a back when you take a back by reversing some supreme court decisions and said that our government to me by the sold by corporations and rich people but our government is which should be any his office any of our government is honest its first job is to provide for the general welfare and in domestic tranquility obviously protect their borders and things like that you know that this is the six things there laid out the preamble the constitution and then later restated individually in how to do that if our government is ours it has to protect us from the predators and the predators now are these large transnational corporations they don't give our rats between the about u or me or anything else in america general electric last year made fifty three fifty seven percent of profit offshore they made billions they paid zero in taxes and yet they use their police departments they use their fire departments they use their infrastructure the used their public education system they used to all they use their court systems they use their finances than they used all those things the u_n_ i pay taxes for that comments that you and i created use that and they didn't pay a damp any ford and you're telling me that that's an ok thing i'm telling you that the only power they can take on general electric the only power they can take on microsoft he only power they can take on exxon mobil which paid no taxes made the hundreds of billions of dollars in profits integrally pino back taxes they had a four hundred twenty million dollar tax refund he only power they can take them on he's organized people which is what jefferson and madison and hamilton and and and franklin in washington put together and it's called our government pennies to work for us i think i met you and i agree no we don't agree definitely not i don't think i government you work for us but i think you're creating a park telemark like if i were the people that are forty rebecca what prepared microsoft refused the flip-flop called them cut about about five o'clock p_m_ that lockbox goodluck chanel
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