Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles MING: So I'm a jolly good fellow, and I'm honored to introduce Ajahn Brahm, my fellow jolly good fellow. I'm a huge fan of Ajahn Brahm. In the part of the world I came from, which is Southeast Asia, and also in Australia, Ajahn Brahm is a big deal. He's like a celebrity. He's like a movie star. He has to wear shades when he goes to the mall. He is a widely admired master, teacher of dharma, and Buddhism, and meditation. And he's known for his wisdom, his intelligence, and great humor, and for telling great stories. He's also very naughty. Let me give you an example of naughty. AJAHN BRAHM: Hey. No. MING: Yes, you. The last time we were together, I brought my father to see Ajahn Brahm. And I wanted a book autographed for my father. AJAHN BRAHM: Yes, yes, yes. MING: And then I was busy. So I give it to a friend, and say, can you get Ajahn Brahm to autograph for Ming's father. And then he put it to you. And you wrote, "To Ming's father." So which is why today, I had to say, can you autograph to my wife, Cindy, Cindy. Otherwise, he was going to write "To Ming's wife." AJAHN BRAHM: "To my wife." MING: Yeah. "To my wife," yeah. He's also, among other things, known for his leading role in advocating for the rights of Buddhist nuns for full ordination. Yay. [APPLAUSE] MING: And for that, he got expelled from his order. AJAHN BRAHM: Yay. [LAUGHTER] MING: I know. The last time we were talking about this, we were in the audience and onstage, somebody was talking about this. And we high-fived each other. AJAHN BRAHM: Yes, yeah, yeah. MING: Remember? We were like, let's do a high-five again. High-five. Yeah. He said the best thing about being expelled from his order is he can only be expelled once. Ajahn Brahm is also the co-founder of Bodhinyana, the first dedicated Buddhist monastery in the Southern hemisphere, hemisphere, hemisphere. AJAHN BRAHM: Yeah. MING: Yes. He's the coolest monk in at least the Southern hemisphere, hemisphere, hemisphere. AJAHN BRAHM: Yes. It's very cold in Australia. MING: Yes. Which is today also the largest community of Buddhist monks in Australia. He is the author of multiple books. And in 2004, he was awarded the John Curtain Medal for Leadership, Vision, and Service to the Australian community. AJAHN BRAHM: Yes. MING: And with that, my friends, please give a warm welcome to Ajahn Brahm. AJAHN BRAHM: Hi. [APPLAUSE] Very good. First of all, when Shirley-- where is she? She asked me for a title for the talk or at least some way of getting people to come in the old bums on the seats, I did mention to everybody that I was over 750. That's my age. Now, there we go. That's because you meditate a lot and you're very peaceful. It means you look only in your 60s. Well, last year, last year in Bhutan, I celebrated my 750th birthday. And I'm a monk. I have to be honest. I cannot tell a lie. It really was 750 months. [LAUGHS] Now, if you're a monk, saying you're old makes you have more cred. People actually respect you more. So if I just said I was 62 and 1/2 and 63, that's so ordinary. But 750, that's awesome. So I'm 750-- almost 762 now. Wow. But this is one example of learning how to make some fun in life and learn how to make some fun in your workplace, learning how to do what Meg is trying to teach everybody, to have a more happy, more powerful mind, learning how to see things in a different way. Obviously, in anywhere in our modern world, we have to see things looking out of the box. And one of the ways the Buddhist monks can actually see things which other people can't see is we literally live outside of the box. We do things which are totally different than anybody else. And because we live outside of the box, we can actually innovate, and especially in what we're teaching here, mindfulness. Mindfulness is so last decade. So we've made more advances since that time. I was telling Bill a few moments ago at lunch, mindfulness, OK. So there was this woman, a very wealthy woman, who went to work one day. And there was many burglaries in the neighborhood. So she told the guard on the front of her mansion, be mindful. There are many burglars around. And when she came home from work, she found that her house had been ransacked. Burglars had stolen everything. And she told the guard at her house, I asked you to be mindful. Why weren't you mindful? And the guard said, I was mindful, Madam. I saw the burglars going in, and I was mindful, burglar going in, burglar going in, burglar going in. I saw them taking your jewelry out. I was mindful. I noted jewelry going out, jewelry going. I saw them going in again with their truck. I saw your safe going out. I noted safe going out. I was mindful all the time. Would that be very helpful? No. Mindfulness is not enough. So I seen at the lunch desk, Days of Mindfulness. Mindfully putting food into mouth. Food going in. More food going in. More food going in. Well, that's being mindful. But it's not sometimes being wise. So if you want to stay ahead of the curve with mindfulness, we add something more, which is kindness. And if you add kindness to mindfulness, you get the latest-- [LAUGHS] stop laughing. Putting me off. The latest buzzword in psychology, kindfulness. So don't just be mindful. Be kindful. Now, what that really means is yes, you're aware. But you got some responsibilities, some duties. Be kind to what's going on. Now, you live in the tech world. I don't know if you heard this story. It's a true story. This was in NASA a few years ago in Houston. And they had just installed a new mainframe computer, big number cruncher. And it cost millions and millions of dollars. And after installing the big number cruncher in the headquarters of NASA in Houston, they tried to boot it up. They could not get it working. And because this was costing millions of dollars every hour, they got every high tech guy in the whole-- and woman-- in the whole of the United States and Canada-- even Europe-- flying them in first class. They needed them immediately to try and fix up the problem. No one could fix up the problem. There was one tech guy who was a Buddhist. He was a Thai man. And he said, well, if no IT guy can fix up the problem, and if all the best experts have tried and failed, perhaps it might be something supernatural. And I know the guy to fix it, because there was a Thai monk, a meditation monk who just happened to be visiting the Thai temple in Houston. The nice thing about monks is they're cheap. I don't get anything out of this. And what do they have to lose? Nothing. So they invited this Thai monk into the main computer headquarters, the terminal of NASA. And what did he do? A little bit of meditation, kindfulness. You check it out if you've got any friends in NASA. After the monk had been in there, that computer worked perfectly. It started working again. And we know that is true because he's visited San Fran several times. And one time when he came here, the person receiving him decided to look at his passport to make sure his visa was in order. And this monk has got a diplomatic visa with no expiry date so he can come into the US from Thailand at a moment's notice in case NASA needs him. Now this is the power off kindfulness. And a similar story, which I also love-- and this is true. This is one of my disciples-- having meditated with me in Australia for a year, he went back to school in Hamburg, Germany, at the University. And the first day on campus, as he was walking past an ATM machine, the ATM made a sound. It was like a gurgle. And he interpreted that this ATM was welcoming him onto campus. Don't just think about artificial intelligence. It already has arrived. It made a gurgling sound. And he though it's welcoming him onto campus. So from that day on, he'd always say hello, guten Morgen, to his favorite ATM. He'd always use that and be kind to it. And after three months of kindfulness to this ATM, he happened to be having his lunch on a bench within sight of the ATM machine. No one had been close to it for at least 15 minutes when it made the familiar gurgle sound once again. And he looked at this machine, and a 20 euro note came out. No one had been close to the machine. No one had put any cards in or typed in any PIN numbers. And a $20 note, or 20 euro note came out. He went over to the ATM, picked up the euro note, waved it around. Does this belong to anybody? No one claimed it. So he took it away. This is what happens with the power of kindfulness. If you're short of cash, you don't need a card. You don't even need an account. Just go up to the ATM machine, stroke it, and say, may you never run out of electricity. May no one ever hit you when they find they've got no credit balance. May you always be happy and well. And who knows? You may get $20. That's an absolutely true story. Amazing, just the power of the mind just over machines. So this is also true. Your computer, if it's not working, if it crashes, what should you do? Please don't sear at it. Please don't get angry at it. Just take your hand and stroke it. There, there, hard drive. [LAUGHS] You may be laughing at me, but you try it. At the very least, it'll soften you. You won't get so angry. So mindfulness and kindness together, they're very, very helpful. And they're very powerful. And they make a lot of difference in our life. So it's not just being aware of what you're doing. It's being kind as well. And when you're mindful and kind, you see so many angles of this life where when you're kind, you can actually use mindfulness, and it makes far better life for yourself, better health, mental health, and physical health as well. Now, I don't know if you've got any back problems, tummy problems, or whatever problems. We all get problems after a while in our body. Yeah. Exercise is good, but, as I was telling people earlier, sometimes people look at me and Bill and they think we're fat. We're not fat. No way. I've been a monk for over 40 years now. I'm being honest now. Not 750. 40 actual years. And every year you are monk, practicing kindfulness, you get more and more compassion. Every year, my heart gets a little bit bigger and bigger and bigger. Now, it's so big after 40 years as a monk, it can't push out my rib cage anymore. So it comes down here and pushes this out. This is not a big tummy. It's a big heart. It has to go somewhere, and this is where it's gone. So don't go criticizing me for being fat. This is not fat. This is just a big heart. Isn't that the case, Phil? Correct. Yeah, big heart. But-- I'm going to choke to death now. But the happiness part of it is also important. As I was telling over lunch, as I was eating my ice cream, that when you're happy, when you laugh a lot, when you've got a very positive attitude towards life, actually your blood vessels do expand. That's the basic sort of biology of the human body. If you get negative, angry, upset, your actual blood vessels contract. That's been established many times. So if you are a little bit overweight, and you're miserable, you get what we call double whammy. You've got lots of guck going through your blood vessels, and your blood vessels are small. They're going to clog up, and you're going to die. But if you're happy and if you laugh a lot, like me and like Bill-- our blood vessels are so big and so wide, we can eat anything. Anything can pass through. Nothing ever gets clogged. No heart attacks, no strokes because our blood vessels are very wide. And that really explains something I always was concerned about, interested in, when I was a young man. A bit of a science. Why is it that all the fat people are happy? They are. Look at Santa Claus. Santa Claus is really fat. He's very happy. Ho, ho, ho. And look how old he is. He was an old man when I was born. So it's the fat, happy people that are the only ones left. The fat, miserable people, they died a long time ago. Evolution. That's true, isn't it? All fat people are happy, because all the fat miserable ones died. So if you are overweight, don't worry. Laugh more, and you compensate for your extra weight. And you can eat much more. So that happiness and that laughter is really important. But sometimes, you know, we live in an age where being happy is almost part of corporate culture. You get people telling you to be happy. And if you're not happy, there's something wrong with you. And we get these big guilt trips about not being a jolly good fellow. You may get the sack in Google if you're not happy enough. Now, that sucks. And this is one of the reasons why at a retreat I was teaching in Australia many years ago, this woman came up, interview time, and she said, I'm fed up with trying to be happy. You're telling me to be happy. Everyone else is smiling, and that really pisses me off. I'm grumpy. I don't feel like being happy. So I understood her problem. I said, just wait here for a moment. And I got on the computer and very quickly printed out on letterhead, which I signed by hand underneath, a grumpy license. The grumpy license on letterhead stated something like, I hereby grant to the lady's name, Veronica, permission to be grumpy at any time for any reason or no reason in particular for the rest of your life. Signed, Ajahn Brahm, because she is my disciple, so she respected me. So I gave her permission to be grumpy. And as soon as she got that form, she felt so relieved. She didn't feel guilty anymore about being grumpy. She started laughing, and then the grumpiness had gone. Problem solved. Why is it we have to be happy? Why is it we even have to be healthy? Sometimes if you're not healthy these days, it's almost like a crime in California. So I want human rights, human freedoms. This is the United States. Not just freedom for the pursuit of happiness, freedom for the pursuit of misery as well. If you want to be miserable, I will support you. So what that's actually doing, that's doing something much more refined about when you're aware and mindful. You're aware and mindful of how you are. And you're at peace with that, no matter how you feel. If you feel in a bad mood today, you're in a bad mood. Trying to get out of that bad mood makes it much worse. So you give people permission to be grumpy, to be upset, to have a bad day. And even if you are someone like me, who's always supposed to be the happy guy in Google. I'm sure there are times you must go into the men's room and go, argh. I don't want to be happy today. Because that becomes a persona, and we get very stressed out trying to be something we're not, which is the whole idea of mindfulness and kindness to allow yourself to be whoever you are at this moment. Unfortunately, wherever I go in the world, and I go to many cities, I find it very, very rare to see a human being. There are very, very few human beings in California. There are many human goings, many human doings, but very few human beings. Do you understand what I mean? You're always going somewhere, doing something, instead of just being here. And learning how to be mindful and kindfully enough just to be, without all these people telling you what you should be and how you should be, is an enormous freedom. Allowing yourself just to be who you are, even if you're sick. Know what one of the problems is when you're sick? All these people trying to make you better. And you feel so guilty when you're sick. Somebody comes and sees you in hospital. What do they say? How you feeling today? And you feel really guilty. They come all that way, and you disappoint them by feeling terrible. That's why people lie when they're in hospital. You're like, I'm feeling a bit better today, when you're not. So putting pressure on people, that is one of the problems. Someone was telling me about an old friend I have. And just when I saw him, he was a monk in Thailand many, many years ago. He got two types of typhoid all together. There's three strains apparently. And he got two all at the same time. He came really close to dying. And he was a Rhodes scholar, a champion wrestler, very brilliant guy, and became a monk with me. And he was sick for years after that. Had Crohn's disease and all sorts of other terrible diseases. And he was in the attic of a monastery in England for years, never been able even to get out of bed and get to the door. He felt terrible. And one day, one the other monks, he had what we call really understanding, insight. He knew what the problem was. He went to that monk's room and said to him, I've come up here on behalf of all the people who support this monastery and all your friends and your family, too-- on behalf of everybody, I come up here to give you permission to die. Don't try so hard to get well. You can die if you want to. It's fine. At which point this Rhodes scholar from Tennessee, he burst out crying. He wept. Because for months, he'd been trying so hard to get better. And now he could just be, and he could die. And from that moment on, his health started improving. And that was about 35 years ago. And now he lives in South Africa. And he comes over to California about once every few years to do retreats. That was brilliant emotional intelligence. When you're sick, you're trying so hard to get better, it can kill you. And as soon as it was OK to be sick, and there was no guilt, no stress attached to it-- you're sick? Oh, just be sick. And then he started to get better. Do you understand how the kindfulness and the mindfulness, it solves these huge problems in our lives. When we're always trying to be something we're not, that's when we get into problems. And when you understand these things, you can actually see things in a different way. And this seeing things in a different way, seeing things out of the box is where we get innovation and when we get sort of progress. I was also telling Bill and Ming during the lunch we had just how I was giving a keynote address at a mental health conference in Singapore. And when I was given the keynote, I was telling some of the principles I've discovered as a Buddhist monk doing heaps and heaps of meditation. And this guy came out to me afterwards and introduced himself. He was a professor of schizophrenia for the whole of Singapore. And I asked him, how do you treat schizophrenia in Singapore. And he told me, just as I'd been teaching in my presentation, I don't treat schizophrenia in Singapore. I treat the other part of the patient, which is not schizophrenic. And I realized that's what I'd just been talking about. This guy had got it. He'd understood about how to solve problems. Sometimes you have a problem in your office, in your company, in your health, in your life. Why is it we always focus on the problem rather than the other part of life? Because by focusing on the schizophrenia, that person is identifying with that disease. They're literally becoming that disease, and it gets worse. By focusing on the other part of that person, which was not schizophrenic, that part of the person is being recognized, is being embraced and celebrated. And that part of the person is what's going to grow. And I did ask him, what are your results. And he said, far better than conventional treatments. It's the same whenever I go into a prison, which I go into a lot. Whenever I go to do volunteer work in prison, I always keep a log of how many hours I spend in jail to be used as credit just in case something goes wrong. But when you go into prisons, all those prisons I've been in, so I've never yet seen a murderer. I've never seen a thief or a rapist. I've never seen even a criminal inside jails. I haven't been in jails in the US, but in many other countries of the world. All I've ever seen is a person who's murdered, a person who's stolen, but never a thief. And just that change of attitude, something so simple, meant that I could see something inside of them which they had been blind to for many months, many years, depending on how long they'd been inside. When I could see the other part of them, they could see it themselves. And I could talk to that other side of them, not the person who'd murdered, but the other part of them, which was very kind and very beautiful. When I saw that, they saw that, and basically they recovered. I don't mind praising myself from time to time. I am a humble monk. In fact, I'm the most humble monk in the world. And I always tell people, if you are humble, what's the point of being humble if you can't tell people about it. So I got this great praise from this prison officer. He called me. He wanted to speak to me. He got through. And I said, how can I help you? He said, can you come back to my prison to teach? I said, I'm too busy these days. And he said, no. I want you to come and teach. And I said, why me? And this prison officer then gave me a very beautiful compliment. He said, I've been a prison officer all my career. I'm about to retire. I've noticed something very unique. Every prisoner who came to your class, once released from jail, never came back again. And that was a marvelous thing to achieve, because many people who go to jail, they go in, and a few months later, they go back again. Why was that? Because I had pointed out to them-- I'd seen in them the other side of them, which was not a criminal. They could see that themselves. And that was the part which grew. The same with faults. With being mindful, you've got a choice of being mindful to the dark side or to the light side of yourself, of your partner, or even your career. You've got that choice. With kindfulness, you're mindful of the good part. Let's say you have a relationship. Why is it you make a mistake with your boyfriend, girlfriend, and you think about that, and she reminds you about that days and days and days. Why do you always focus on faults? Because we think that we learn from mistakes. No way. You learn from successes much more than you'll ever learn from mistakes. So you have a good day out together. Reflect upon that. Look over that. Why was it a wonderful day we had together? Learn from successes. Because when you realize the secret of success, you can repeat it and have a wonderful time together. It's much more fun remembering what works and what's successful. And it's the same with whatever project you are doing in this company. Many of those projects will fail. Forget about them. When something works, think about it. Reflect upon it. Find out why it works. You learn from successes much more than you ever learn from mistakes. That's why all the mistakes I've ever made, I've totally forgotten about them. That's why I'm happy. All the times you did something right, that's what you remember. And you learn. You learn from successes, not from mistakes. Simple things, which, as a monk, you know are so powerful. And it's, again, like kindfulness. So it's not only just kindfulness at work and kindfulness with relationships, it's also kindness with your health and your energy levels. What gets you lots of energy? What gets you lots of strength? Yeah. It is mindfulness. But one thing which I noticed is the more calm you are, the stronger your mindfulness becomes. Mindfulness is not some quality which is just there all the time the same intensity. Because you can train yourself to be super-mindful, really, incredibly, powerfully mindful, which literally means that what you see, what you feel, what you know, it's like you've turned the lights up in your mind. It's not twilight anymore. It's the middle of the day, with a full sun shining over things. Now this is just a simple training we do with some meditation. When you really get still and peaceful, your mindfulness goes to other levels. After you've meditated, you can go outside, you can look at a leaf, and there's so much going on in that leaf. The colors stand out. They're like fluorescent. That's a sign, not that you've taken some illegal substances, just that your mindfulness is now strong. Your mind is getting some power. I like to tell this story because somebody asked made to repeat this story, which I told yesterday. I was getting some really good meditation one day. And after the meditation was finished, I had to go to the toilet like every other human being to do what we call a number two. And as I went to the toilet and did my business, I made a big mistake. My mistake was after you got some really powerful mindfulness running, was to look inside the toilet bowl. And what I saw floating in that water blew my mind. I'd never, ever in my whole life seen such a beautiful piece of shit. [LAUGHTER] Now you may laugh, but the way those balls and globules were arranged together, it was like they were put together by a Michelangelo or a Rodin. Just the way, the shape of them, and the way that they interacted with each other was actually a matter of genius. And the colors. It wasn't just brown. It was hundreds of different shades of brown. And the way they were all distributed over this beautiful sort of shape was actually incredible, how they could do this. And because there is always a little bit of mucus on shit, it meant that it sparkled like diamonds in the bottom of the bowl. And now we go on to the fragrance. The fragrance was rich. It filled your nostrils and filled your whole mind with an explosion of these different scents. Not just one. It was full. It was amazing. And I was just so taken by this turd in the bottom of the toilet bowl that I was there for about five or ten minutes saying, wow. Look at that. That's incredible. That is amazing. I've never seen anything like it. And I really thought of taking it out to show my friends. But you know that I'm a monk, and monks know how to let go and renounce. It was a very, very-- one of the toughest things I've ever done. Giving up sex, that's easy. Giving up drink, giving up-- that was easy. Giving up the most beautiful piece of shit in the world, that was tough. But I did it. I did it. I pressed the button, and looked the other way. Ah, that was so hard. But I tell that story because it's fun. But it's also true. It actually shows you just how powerful mindfulness can be. When you're very still, it gets powerful. And then you can see things which other people can't see. You can taste flavors, which are so rich, and fragrances which have always been there, but you've been too dull to really pick up. And knowledge, which has always been in front of you, but which you've been too dark, too dull, too much in twilight to really see. So enhancing mindfulness with stillness and giving it power is an incredible ability. And any wisdom which I get always comes from that stillness, empowering mindfulness and getting your mental faculties up to a different level, a higher level. And if you want to achieve in life, of course you realize you have a brain. But how well are you using it? Yeah, you're mindful up to a point. But how much are you being mindful? There's an old little simile, which has worked its way from me to Harvard Business School. How heavy is a cup of water? I haven't got a cup of water now. Can I borrow. Oh I have. This'll do. How heavy is this cup of tea? The longer I hold it, the heavier it feels. After one minute, my arm is aching. After a minute and a half, I'm in pain. After two minutes, I'm in agony and a very stupid monk. What should I do when it starts to get too heavy to hold? Put it down and rest. If you don't believe me, you can try this at home. Just rest for 30 seconds. And after 30 seconds, you pick up the cup of water, and it feels lighter. I've taught this at the-- I think it was the International Computer Conference of Brisbane about two or three years ago. You get to do some great gigs as a Buddhist monk. You manage to get to places where even men can't go. I saw your wall. You haven't got a picture of Queen Elizabeth. Yeah, I have. (Teasing) Da da da da da. Because a couple of years ago, Queen Elizabeth was visiting Australia. And as a leader of the Buddhist community, I got an invitation for a state dinner with the prime minister of Australia and Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip. Wow. But there was a problem. There was a problem, big problem. Because when I got the invitation, they had something called dress code. And the first item on the dress code was black tie. Now I'm a monk. I don't know these things. I thought, is that all you wear for a state dinner. Black-- it didn't say anything else. And they said, no. Actually you need trousers as well, and a shirt, and a jacket, and shoes. So anyway, we don't have a tie in a monastery. So what was the second option? The second option was worse, military uniform. Imagine a monk, a pacifist, going in a military-- I can't do that. I looked at the third option. And when I looked at it, my eyes widened. Yeah, I can do that. The third option was long dress. So I went in long dress. Soon as I got in there, security stopped me. But I flashed my invitation card, so I got in, which was really good. So you get to do interesting things as a monk. And so at the National Computer Conference, I taught this. Actually, International. They had the Computer Society's conferences in Brisbane that year. And when I actually did this, they were so impressed. This is what stress is. Stress has got nothing to do with how much work, responsibility, duties you have in life. It doesn't matter how heavy the cup is. It's when it gets heavy, do you know how to put it down and rest? You don't have to rest for very long, 30 seconds, a minute. If you're stressed in life, maybe 15 minutes, half an hour at most. If you can just put the job down for a few minutes, and you're rested. When you go back to work, when you go back to the computer screen, you have ideas. Now you can write. You can do the code, whatever you're up to. Ideas come to you because your brain has rested. And half an hour, or a quarter of an hour of just rest, you make that up afterwards with greater productivity, less stress. That is a problem with stress in our lives. That's why Harvard Business School took it on board. And they call that an investment in the afternoon. Half an hour of doing nothing means in the afternoon, you get four hours' work done in three. And when you go home, you're not so angry and tired. Simple things which a monk can see. So this to how we learn how to-- when you're tired, you know your brain is not working very well, then let go, have a rest, and go back to it afterwards. If you don't know how to meditate, what I have been asking people to do and suggesting in Google-- remember when you were at school, had a playground, swings, 'round abouts? Do you have that in Google campus? Yeah, you do have a playground. [LAUGHTER] Adult-sized. Yeah, you got that because I saw this great photograph in Montreal, Canada. When you're waiting for a bus, instead of actually sitting on benches, they have the swings. So if people want to wait, they've got these swings like in the playgrounds of recess at school. So they swing backwards and forwards, have all these executives and all these secretaries on the swings, waiting for the bus, having a wonderful time chilling out. What a wonderful thing to do. So have that time when you can rest, because if you do rest and you give yourself that time, your efficiency grows up. You're more productive. Ideas come. But sometimes we need, number one, to see the importance of relaxing, and then, number two, find out how to relax. And that's where we can learn how to realize its importance and let go of all the past and future, because now is the only time you have. And now is the place your future is being made. Now is the only time you can't do anything about your future, right now. So if you're mindful enough, and let go, put down the cup-- I'm being a hypocrite because I'm still holding the cup-- then you can have a nice, peaceful time. Very good. So I've been talking for 40 minutes, and that's the amount of time I was given. So now we have questions, answers, comments, and complaints. MING: Yes. By the way, round of applause. [APPLAUSE] Ajahn Brahm's official title is Mahathera. Thera means elder. Maha means big, because he has a big heart. Questions? Yes, Bill? AUDIENCE: So recently, Google released its diversity numbers about who works here. AJAHN BRAHM: Yeah. AUDIENCE: And they're different than what we want them to be. AJAHN BRAHM: Yeah. AUDIENCE: And they're different than the story we tell ourselves about who we want to be. With your experience in fighting for ordination for women, what advice do you have for us on two levels, as individuals in our practice about what we can do in our practice and our non-practice life, and then also as part of an organization? What have you found that's been successful for you as you've done this very easy task that you've been doing. AJAHN BRAHM: Yeah, yeah. AUDIENCE: You're done, right? AJAHN BRAHM: Yeah. Done it. Yeah. But look. This is the case in many religions in our world. There is no equity. You see the priests. You see the imams. You see the gurus, and they're all male. Does that mean that females are suddenly spiritually inadequate? That you can't have them as our teachers and leaders? We have the Dalai Lama, a male, the pope, a male, the ayatollah's male. They're all male. Where are the females? And one other thing about Buddhism. In the earliest time, when the Buddha was alive, there was equity. We did have bhikkunis. They're the female monks. And we have the male monks. We had equality there from 2,500 years ago. We lost it somehow. And so now we sort of start it up again. So to start it up again, you have to go against the hierarchy, against the bosses. If anyone has the opportunity to hire, you just hire, no matter what they say. That's what I had to do, to stand up and say, look. I don't care what my bosses say. This needs to be done. I'm going to do it. So you just go ahead and do it for the state of equity. There are always ways of having affirmative action. But for goodness' sake, stop all the bullshit of talking about it. You have to do it. Too many talking about it, too many conferences, too many papers written about the necessity of this. But somehow you've got to do it. And one of the stories which inspired me. In my home country of Australia, there was an equity for the gay community, gay, lesbian, transgenders. And one of the last outposts of stupidity was the state of Tasmania, where until very recently, it was illegal, against the law, with a custodial penalty, for gay people to have consensual sex. And the gay community in Tasmania, for years, they were trying to get the government to overturn this. And the government said, don't worry. We'll not prosecute anybody. But that was just so patronizing, to say there's no problem when there is. The men can't see the problem. The females can. It is a problem. So don't be patronizing and think there's not a problem. So what these people did-- they were really smart. Those 50 gay couples decided one night they would have as much sex as possible. And they wrote it all down in detail, what they had done. And afterwards, the following morning, they handed themselves in to the cops. They said, we confess. We committed a crime. We did this sex. And we signed it. This is what we did. And 50 couples, with all the media in tow-- and the police had no choice. They had to arrest these people. And these were good people who committed a crime. And they confessed-- we did it-- and were put in jail. And of course, only two or three days later, the state parliament overturned that law because they were so embarrassed. So embarrassment is a way to get things done. That's why I was excommunicated, because I embarrassed my bosses so badly, they wanted to get rid of me. So please, embarrass your bosses. One way of doing that, just what comes to my head-- OK. Those people who support gender equity in Google-- how many support gender equity in Google? OK. All of you males, maybe next Monday, please come to work dressed as a woman. Say, well, there's not enough women in Google. So we're going to pretend we're girls. And if enough people actually do that-- how many people work on this campus? AUDIENCE: Too many. AJAHN BRAHM: Too many. OK. Well, if I a couple hundred of you come dressed as women next Monday, that is going to make a statement, which no one can really ignore. And when you make a statement, which no one can-- so how many of you are going to volunteer to come as women on Monday? You all put your hand up you supported it. So do it. I don't mean the girls to put your hand up. Yes. So do something like that. And you'll get some great cred with the other girls in the office. And it's making a statement. Because sometimes there's too much talk, not enough action. That doesn't get you anywhere. So that's my suggestion for you. Next Monday, or you can make it another week, come dressed as a woman. Get as many people on board. 100, 200. You won't be so embarrassed. And you make a statement. There's not enough women in Google. So we're going to pretend to be women. OK. Does that make any-- yeah. Go on. AUDIENCE: When did you decide to be a monk, and why did you decide to be a monk? AJAHN BRAHM: It's because I used to be a school teacher in high school for one year. And that would make anyone think of leaving the world. [LAUGHTER] Have you ever had-- teaching high school kids all day? So, anyway, no. The main reason was I always wanted a job in my life which would give happiness to others and which would give happiness to myself. And by being a spiritual teacher, you get huge amounts of happiness through meditation, leading a very simple life. You never have to worry about money and possessions and stuff like that. And you have such an easy, free life. So you get so much happiness for yourself. And now in my life, I have opportunities to go and teach others and really help them big-time. And amazing, the power you can get as a monk actually to help people in the social level. The last couple of talks I gave, sometime ago, always on YouTube. Many of you have seen me on YouTube. We have questions coming about the talk from Syria. So these teachings, these talks can go all over the world and go to a place like Syria, which is probably the country with the most suffering at this moment, the most problems and trouble. And you give one talk, it's streamed, and people actually know about it. They can log in. And they can listen to the talk, and they can ask questions in all these other parts of the world. That gives me a lot of happiness. And you can find ways-- psychologists, they come and learn their stuff from monks like me. This mindfulness stuff, that came from Buddhism. There's so much psychology, which I've seen psychologists using. And I know where they came from. Me. Because you see these things, you spread it around, and it really helps big-time. Little things like my story of opening the door of your heart, where my father taught me what the meaning of unconditional love was. He took me aside when I was only about 13. And he said to me, son, wherever you go in your life, whatever you do, however you turn out, the door of my house will always be open to you. That's what he said. But his house was so small and so poor, he'd never locked the door. He wasn't afraid of burglars. In fact, he was hoping a burglar would come in one day, take pity on us, and leave us something. But that's actually pretty true. But I realized later on in my life, he didn't mean his house. He meant his heart. He man, you're my son. Whatever you turn out like, wherever you go, whatever you do, you're my son, and the door of my heart I will never close against you. The door of my heart's always open to you. That meant so much to me. And I've taught that to so many other people. And the next step is to say to yourself, no matter who you are, one day in some quiet moment of your life, whoever I am, whatever I have done, even the abuse I've given out or received in my life so far, the door of my heart is open to all of that as well. Come in. It's an incredible, powerful moment, because in the extreme cases I've been teaching in an organization called Assets in Australia, Australian Society of Survivors of Torture and Trauma, people who have been in these really dark places in the world-- tortured, multiple rape-- survive and come to places like Australia's refugees-- physically, they're free. Emotionally, they're still in those dark dungeons underground being tortured. How on earth can you give them the emotional freedom? And the people there say, the story which works the best is what I've just taught you. There comes a time when these survivors imagine their little heart and two doors opening. Just like in the old aircraft, little steps coming down to the ground. And on the ground outside of their heart is those little girls who were raped, who were tortured. Parts of themselves, it's very hard to embrace and bring in. Kept outside for years. And inviting those little beings up the staircase into your heart, not to only get rid of them but embracing them. They're part of you. And these people imagine that, these people that have been tortured, beaten, half killed, walking timidly up the steps. And the other part of you, the part of you which you like, which you're proud of, embracing these people, bringing them in, and being one again. That is powerful. That comes from me. And that works. So when I can do stuff like that, that gives me enormous happiness. That is why I'm a monk. AUDIENCE: Thank you, Ajahn, for your talk. I heard you speaking very clearly about kindness. And last night with Eugene Cash, I asked the question of caring for or transforming habitual reactions. And he expressed regret that I had missed your talk on Sunday there last week. AJAHN BRAHM: Yeah. AUDIENCE: And I hoped if there was some seed more of that you care to share with us. AJAHN BRAHM: OK. When you care for something, it gets less. There's a classic story in Buddhism, which I also use in psychology, which is the story of the monster who came into the emperor's palace. So a long time ago, there was a monster, a demon. It was so ugly and so frightening. And he came into an emperor's palace when she was away on some business. And this monster was so ugly and frightening that all the guards and soldiers and security which was supposed to guard the place, they hid. They went under the tables, through the doors. They hid because they were terrified of this monster. And that allowed the monster to go right into the central hall and sit on the empress's throne. And that was going too far. So the soldiers, the ministers, even the cooks, everybody who worked in the palace, they said, get out of here. You don't belong. Who do you think you are? And at those few unkind words, unkind deeds, and unkind thoughts, the monster grew an inch bigger, more ugly, more smelly, more offensive. That made them mad. They threatened. They cursed. But every unkind word, deed, or thought, the monster just grew an inch bigger, more ugly, more smelly, more offensive. By the time the empress came back, this monster was huge. It was so frightening, it makes Alien look like pussycats. And was so smelly that even the maggots crawling on the monster's skin, they barfed. They threw up. Not even maggots could stand the stench. And the empress, she was in that job because she was smart. Not like Google. They get empresses on the basis of ability, not the basis of gender. [LAUGHS] And she knew what to do. She said, welcome, monster. Thank you so much for dropping in. Has anyone got you a cup of tea yet? We've got green tea. We've got black tea. We've got peppermint tea. It's good for your health. And was really sincere with her kindness. And they noticed every kind word or thought or deed, the monster grew an inch smaller, less ugly, less smelly, less offensive. So everyone realized their mistake. They were now kind to the monster. Someone rang out for a pizza, because now it comes monster-size. Another five people gave him a foot massage. Have you ever had reflexology? Really rare for a monster to get his big feet massaged. And he was just really enjoying it. He goes, over there a bit. Oh, yeah. Ooh, that's nice. At every kind word, kind act, kind thought, the monster just shrank a little bit smaller, less ugly, less smelly, less offensive, until the monster soon got to the size that he first came into the palace. But they never stopped with their kindness. They carried on being kind to the monster until one more act of kindness, and the monster shrank completely away. And the Buddha said we call those anger-eating monsters. You give them anger, and they get bigger, more of a problem, more trouble. How many anger-eating monsters can you see? Even an addiction. I don't want this addiction. Get out of here. It can get worse. So that's what I mean by kindness. Kindness makes many problems get smaller, more tractable, more possible to fix. But when you get angry at them, get out of here. You don't belong. One of the greatest, most common anger-eating monsters which we have is cancer. Tumor, get out of here. You don't belong. I've been going to the cancer support groups in Australia for over 25 years now. And I keep going back there. They keep inviting me, because what I say works. Any of you who follow that stupid tradition of fighting your cancer-- some people manage to win. But a lot of people lose who could have won if they were kind, relaxed, instead of fighting. Fighting, you get more tense. The very reason those cancers began in the first place, you're encouraging them to continue. This is powerful stuff. Because I don't if you've had any people you really love die of cancer or anyone who's got cancer now or will get cancer. It's a stress-related disease. You give it more stress-- get out here. I don't want you-- it gets worse, bigger. Yeah? AUDIENCE: So you talked a lot about sort of managing anger, managing problems, and accomplishing things by putting things down. Can you speak a little bit about the subject of doubt? Because as we proceed through life and as we try to accomplish the things that we set out for ourselves, the goals we've set, there's always this underlying doubt about whether the direction we're taking ourselves in is the correct one. And in an uncertain world, this is almost impossible to sort of, I guess, make go away. So how do you address this question? AJAHN BRAHM: OK. Doubt, the Buddha used to say, is like being lost in the desert. There's this guy lost in the desert for days and days and days. He was crawling on his hands and knees. Heat stroke, sun stroke, everything stroke. Maybe a few minutes, and he would die. And in the distance, he saw a mirage, he thought. Because he saw someone coming towards him. But he hadn't seen anyone for days. The middle of nowhere. He thought, this can't be true. And as he looked, it looked as if it was an Eskimo, an Inuit with a dog sled and eight husky dogs in front. And he thought, the sun is making me crazy. It must be a mirage. But as it came closer, he could make out the sound of the husky dogs barking. And he could see the furs of the Eskimo. And he thought, my goodness. I'm actually saved. It's not a mirage after all. And soon, he could feel the huskies licking his face, and he could see the Eskimo there, standing right before him. It's a miracle. I'm saved, he said. I've been lost in the desert for days, he said to the Eskimo. And the Eskimo said, and you think you're lost. But going back-- going back to the story, it's being lost in the desert. And there happened to be a case when I was young. I was lost in the mist in the mountains of Scotland, way up in the mountains. I was lost, didn't know which way to go. And I was told stories of these people who'd been going around and round in the mist for days, and they never came out. Some people died. This was really dangerous. You didn't know which way to go. You had no sense of direction at all. So I was really scared because I could have been up there for a long time without water, without food. But then I got back to my basic science, gravity. Water always goes downhill. So I found a little stream, a tiny stream, and decided to follow that, whichever way it went. And I followed it and followed it and followed it and followed it. It always went further and further down. Because I knew if you went down far enough, you go below the clouds, below the mist, and you can actually see your way. And that's what I did. Soon I was below the mist. And I could say the way home. And that's a simile I use for doubt. Yeah, you can't see the big picture. You're not below the mist yet. But at least you know that water goes downhill. You know that whatever you're doing, saying, however you're living, if it is creating better good, happiness, peace, whatever qualities you want to grow, if those qualities are increasing, you're going in the right direction. Carry on. You can't see the big picture, the big goal, but you know that what you're doing in your life is creating a little bit more peace, a little bit more happiness, a little bit more harmony, whatever it is. You know you're going in the right direction. That is the only way you can overcome doubt until the time comes you're below the mist and you can see exactly which way you need to go. MING: Thank you. AJAHN BRAHM: Very good. [APPLAUSE] MING: Thank you. AJAHN BRAHM: Yeah, sure. MING: So Ajahn Brahm will be available to sign books. The book is "Don't Worry, Be Grumpy," available over there at a discounted price. For those of you who are not here, it's available where books are sold. And my friends, we have my wise, kind, and very funny friend and teacher, Ajahn Brahm. AJAHN BRAHM: Yeah. With the beautiful ship. MING: Thank you.
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