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  • Ajahn: OK, so since the last talk last Friday, I've been doing my usual practice of flying around

  • the place, that's not levitation, that was in Qantas, because I accepted an invitation to

  • teach in a conference over in Melbourne, so I was there on Wednesday night and Thursday.

  • It was a conference on depression and anxiety, but I'm not going to talk about those things

  • because I've talked about them many times, and anyone who's interested in those subjects

  • there's lots of talks about those things.

  • But interestingly when I was over there with many health professionals working in the area

  • of depression and anxiety, many of those professional came up to me and said how grateful

  • they were of the talks, which are delivered here on a Friday night and how many

  • people actually listen to them regularly.

  • So much so they also knew that I take requests for subjects for talks so one of the people over in Melbourne

  • said, "There's something you've never talked about and I want you to talk about it next Friday."

  • So this is a suggestion, which I got from Melbourne on Thursday night.

  • I don't think I have talked about this. It's a bit of an esoteric subject because they asked me to talk

  • about the first couple of days after you die.

  • What happens to you when you die? I'm not sure if you have any plans for this weekend,

  • but just in case... [laughter]

  • Ajahn: ...I'm going to tell you what's going to happen. It's going to be based on a number

  • of sources. First of all you've got your own meditation. I've got very strong meditation.

  • It's not actually memories, it's understanding how the mind works and how it interacts with the

  • body. That's a great understanding you get after many many years of meditation.

  • You know exactly what's going to happen because you know the nature of the mind, the nature

  • of the body. There's a particular type of meditation which I've been teaching for a

  • long time now, the Jhanas.

  • They're very deep meditations. I've been quite outspoken about what happens. That gives you

  • a very good lot of information about what happens when you die. I'm going to mention why afterwards.

  • You've also got what we call the evidence-based stories, of people who remember the spaces

  • between their lives and there's quite a few people who can remember those spaces between their previous lives.

  • They either do this spontaneously or they can have training to remember that time. The

  • last piece of evidence which is perhaps the most interesting and the most confirming,

  • is those people who have those experiences of dying either in accidents or in an operation,

  • floating out of their body, being told it's not their time, coming back again and essentially

  • giving you some insight into what happens when you die.

  • These aren't just Buddhists, these are ordinary people from many different parts of life, who come

  • back with the same stories.

  • I am going to bring all those threads together in this talk about, what's going to happen to you when you die.

  • It's not something which doesn't relate to your ordinary daily life, because it highlights that

  • the most important thing in your life is the attitudes, the way you react to what you have

  • to experience from time to time.

  • You find with this practice, which we teach here, it's amazing what you can do with any

  • situation. You can react in this beautiful, very positive way, yeah positive.

  • "What do you mean by positive way?" I mean by making peace, being kind, being gentle

  • with these things. Learning from them, accepting them, embracing them, not fighting them, not

  • being negative, not being angry, not being afraid.

  • All these negative emotions, which you know in your very life, here today, cause incredible

  • amount of problems. They are the ones which might cause problems to you, once you die.

  • Let's go back to what happens just before you die, because that will inform what happens afterwards.

  • Life is a continuum. It doesn't suddenly change.

  • When you go to bed at night, you wake up pretty much the same person in the morning, a little

  • bit older, but pretty much the same, at least recognizable. You don't morph into something different.

  • This is what happens even when you die. There is not a sudden morphing into something terribly

  • different. People just before they die... I am talking about slow deaths, of illness, old

  • age, sickness, that type of death.

  • Not the sudden deaths, but it's a general and very slow turning off of the body, and

  • with that body what we call the five senses of seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting and

  • touching. It's as if the body turns off very slowly.

  • I have been very fortunate in my life as a monk. I get to do some realy really interesting

  • things as a monk. I admire and recommend the lifestyle. I do things that you guys will

  • never get to do. It's really exciting.

  • Like being with people when they are dying. That's one of my jobs. To see the death just happenning

  • as a process. What they take is a life force, which is just a body force, fading away.

  • I remember the first time I saw that. It was quite obvious there's no point of death. There's

  • no time. You can't say that a person died at 8:09. That's what the clock says over there.

  • It's a whole process which happens over many minutes.

  • The death process starts, the doctor said, "It's now finished," and it happened somewhere

  • in between. It's not a point, it's a process. That's very important to understand.

  • This whole life is a process. It's not an event. When you understand that you understand

  • also that if it's a process, that process can continue on. It doesn't suddenly stop.

  • What does stop is these five senses disappear. In other words, no seeing, no smelling, no

  • tasting, no touching, no feeling.

  • That's how we find out if a person's dead. We poke them, we kick them, we shout in their

  • ear. "You still alive?" See if there's anything happening in their body.

  • A lot of times, what nurses do, or doctors do, they open the eyes and put a light in

  • their eyes to see if there's any physical reaction. See if there's any response. Can they actually see.

  • One of the things I know from meditation is, that's also what happens when you get into

  • some deep meditation. Your five senses disappear.

  • Many of you who've got close to that, you're sitting down meditating, you can't feel your

  • hands, you can't feel your legs, OK, your body's disappearing. Great, that's what's supposed to happen.

  • In meditation you're not dying. You can come out afterwards fully alive. In death this

  • is almost like a permanent fading away of the senses. At least in meditation you get

  • a feeling of what it's like.

  • Number one, when your body starts to disappear in meditation, it feels good. It feels bloody

  • good. I don't mind using expletives, because that's what it feels like.

  • I don't know about you, but I'm getting old now. This is my 60th year. You get all sorts

  • of aches and pains. I don't know what it's like to be 65, 70, 75, 80, like some of you

  • guys in here, but it gets worse.

  • I know my body's going to be more achy, more things wrong with it, and it's just so nice

  • to get rid of the body, and have a break from it.

  • When your body starts to disappear, you feel this wonderful pleasure of freedom. You have

  • no aches, no pains. When I was meditating a few minutes ago, I had no irritation in my throat at all.

  • This has been bugging me for the last couple of weeks. Ever since I came back from Indonesia.

  • I think it's a bit of an allergy, so please please please be kind to me, and don't give me any medicines.

  • Last week I got some much medicines, and people put on the Internet that I was sick, and,

  • God, I got too much medicine. Please don't do that to me. I've got a whole chemist shop.

  • [laughs] Leave me alone.

  • It fixes up by itself. One of the things I noticed in meditation a few minutes ago, all

  • the irritation totally vanished.

  • It was wonderful. You're free, and just didn't have any irritation to worry about. This is

  • what happens when the body starts to disappear. You feel this beautiful sense of ease and freedom.

  • You got no business to do with seeing things, smelling, tasting. Many of you will know,

  • in your own meditation, doesn't matter if it's very deep or it's shallow yet, you get

  • deep eventually. Just give it time. The one thing which keeps irritating you, most of all in

  • meditation, is the sound.

  • Now like Brolly's [?] kid crying outside in the beginning, or somebody else

  • making a noise, or coughing. You know that's why that we use alarm clocks to wake you up

  • in the morning?

  • Even the Buddha recognized, and this is one of his teachings, that sound is the last of

  • the five senses to turn off. When you're dying, it's the sound that's the last thing which

  • disappears. That's the way you can actually get into people's minds, and get them out of meditation.

  • I remember some time ago there was a guy, we'd just finished a retreat over in North Perth,

  • it was one of my monk disciples, he was in a deep meditation. We were cleaning up.

  • We left him there, but then we were cleaning up, and it was time to go. He was still sitting

  • there. It was my job to try to get him out of the meditation.

  • Of course, you don't shake him. He won't feel any shakes. You talk in his ear, and get him

  • out that way. Sound is the last of the fives senses which disappears.

  • Understanding that, in the process of dying, if a person's in a coma, if you think they're

  • about to go, speak to them because of all those five senses that is the one which is

  • the most likely they will hear.

  • Forget about shaking them or touching them. Sound is the last of the senses to disappear

  • and many of you will know that when you meditate so this is evidence based.

  • They just start to disappear, the five senses, and when they so disappear there is a great

  • feeling of relief and ease and peace because the body is irritating.

  • Imagine what it's like when you're really sick and dying. That's really a heavy time. Fortunately, though,

  • that in our modern medicines you know we get dosed up usually with Morphine. Many Buddhists

  • have asked me that's terrible I want to be there when I die, this is an important time in my life .

  • I don't want to be in this dull state, but you don't have to worry about that, take that

  • Morphine because what happens during the dying process, that the mind, this sixth sense usually

  • uses your brain, but it doesn't have to use the brain

  • once the brain stops and the brain dies. In other words, your mind does not need that

  • brain anymore. It can be free from the brain and what actually happens in the last minutes or two

  • sometimes more, sometimes less of your life, you get clarity.

  • I was talking about this about my mother in London, because she's got complete Alzheimer's

  • Disease. Two years ago, a year and half ago when I went see her she just cannot recognize

  • me, she didn't know who I am.

  • I was with her for two years, sorry for two hours, talking to her, being with her she didn't

  • know who I was. Although, strangely out the blue in two hours with all the talk she said,

  • she mentioned the word monastery.

  • Which was really weird and my brother picked up on that. It was totally out of context with everything

  • else she was saying, but it was something in there that obviously knew that there was something

  • monastic there, you know with the person that she was with.

  • For people who have such bad Alzheimer's Disease in their last minutes of their life they will be

  • clear, they will wake up, they will remember everything because that's the nature of your mind.

  • It uses the brain for most of your life, but it does not have to use the brain. And in

  • that last few moments of life it separates from the brain.

  • I remember first reading about that when I was a student. I remember in the reading widely

  • in literature and I use to read Tolstoy and he said one of these stories and it was a

  • fascinating story, because it was over 100 years ago.

  • There was a story of a person, quite a wealthy person, in a country house who had this sickness

  • and who was in pain constantly, moaning and screaming. Literally 24 hours a day, would

  • not sleep. It was driving all the people in the house crazy.

  • Imagine you're in a house and there's someone moaning and screaming in pain, and there's

  • nothing you can do about it. Being wealthy they tried to get all sorts of therapy, homeopaths,

  • allopaths, everything, but nothing could relieve this person's pain.

  • Tolstoy, beautiful writer, was describing the emotions of the people who had

  • to deal with this for many weeks. At the end of the story he mentioned that everything

  • suddenly went quiet in the house, but the man hadn't died yet.

  • For 5 or 10 minutes he was free of pain. Clear, lucid. Before he passed away. That's so common

  • and I'm not sure if there are any doctors or nurses who have witnessed that, I have

  • witnessed that the last few moments of a person's life are clear.

  • There's a person who comes here regularly I'm not sure if they're here tonight. They told

  • of me the story that they were with their father, here in Perth, he was dying and she

  • was with her sister. They were sitting on either side of the bed holding their father's hand.

  • He was in a coma and hadn't spoken for many, many hours or a day or two I'm not sure.

  • They were just waiting for him to die, waiting for that last breath to come out and not

  • come in again, holding his hand. Of course you never know when that moment is going to happen.

  • I've been there with people and sometimes you're waiting there for hours. They seem

  • as if their last breath and you think that's it and suddenly they breathe in again. In

  • this particularly case it was his last breath, he stopped breathing, but then he opened his eyes.

  • He leaned up from his bed and looked around at his two daughters on either side. They

  • said that without any plan, they said in perfect synchronicity we love you dad.

  • Then he closed his eyes and passed away. But what really we took their, took them by surprise

  • was that even though he had been in a coma for such a long time, even though he was not

  • supposed to see or feel, for the last minute, he did. He looked them in the eye and they

  • could speak to him their last words.

  • There was even a better example which was in the "TIME" magazine of all things. Article

  • on the mind. This was the most amazing time when the mind separated from the brain.

  • The thing here was we did have a copy of this in our monastery I think 2009 or 10 or something,

  • January edition TIME magazine of the mind, but anyways there's a doctor over in the United

  • States was treating a person with a brain tumor.

  • It was a very aggressive tumor. He was in hospital waiting for the end in a coma for

  • many days, because apparently the brain tumor grows and take over the other parts of the

  • brain, until there's nothing left for a person to be able to speak or higher brain function disappear.

  • Eventually the last part of the brain is just used for keeping the body alive, for doing the

  • basic functions of breathing and keeping the heart going and the other organs going, but

  • soon there's no capacity left in the brain to do anything.

  • That's when the person dies. The fellow been unconscious for a long time, the doctor told

  • them what the prognosis was - you go into this coma and never come out again. But this person did come out.

  • He just again opened his eyes, he bent up, but this fellow talked to his family for 15 minutes,

  • saying their last goodbyes for 15 minutes he was totally clear before he died.

  • The doctor was totally amazed, it couldn't have happened, but it did because by that

  • time there's nothing left in the brain to perform such functions.

  • I've I told many of you many years ago, Professor John Lorber, about the boy with no brain.

  • An honours student in mathematics at Sheffield University, sorry, an honours graduate who had

  • a slightly misshaped skull and the doctor gave him a brain scan, a CT scan, and there

  • was only one percent cortex there, everything else was missing. Basically as Professor Lorber said,

  • he had no brain to speak of.

  • There's no way that that small amount left could compensate for everything which was missing.

  • When I tell that story, I also want to do research, and I ask people, because his whole head was filled

  • with cranial fluid. There's no brain there, no grey matter.

  • So I ask people if you can do an experiment and help me. Can you move your head from back

  • to forth? See if you can hear any sloshing inside. That must be you as well. You've got

  • no brain, it's just cranial fluid.

  • That fellow was an honours student in mathematics. Brilliant, normal, had a girlfriend. In every

  • which way, you wouldn't know he had no brain.

  • How can that work?

  • As far as I know, as far as Buddhism knows, your mind, the ability to cognize, to form

  • thought, to exercise will, is independent of your body. Especially independent of your brain.

  • At the last moments of life, that's what happens.

  • Your mind gets free of this brain and this body. So it can become clear. That's very well

  • documented as evidence based.

  • The last moments of your life you'll be clear. I know the last moments of my mother's life

  • she'll be very clear. Now what do you do with those last moments? That's the next thing.

  • For those people who have sudden deaths, they experience themselves outside of their

  • body looking on. That's evidence based. That's actually what happens.

  • Many people have reported what they call NDEs, Near Death Experiences. Going out of their

  • body, and being. Having the experience of being able to see, and hear, but without a physical body.

  • They do experience, they think they've got a body. That's what it's like, but they can

  • see their dead corpse on the table, or under the car, or wherever else they died. And of course

  • many of those people get revived. They come back again and they tell the tale that that's what it's like.

  • These aren't just Buddhists, these are from all cultures of the world.

  • For those of you who want to check me out, the best site for that is of Professor Pim

  • Van Lommel, L-O-double-M-E-L.

  • This guy was a professor of medicine in Holland. During his work he had many anecdotes, as

  • many of you have heard this before, of people saying that they left their body on the operating

  • table. They could hear and see what was going on. Was this true or not?

  • One of my favorite stories was of the very wealthy person in London, who was having a

  • minor operation. Because she was wealthy she has, I think, a doctor from Harley street.

  • Very expensive but she wanted the best.

  • If you've got money why not get the best? Fortunately she actually did need it, because during the operation

  • she died for a few minutes.

  • If ever you get an expensive doctor you'll probably find he's always very polite to you.

  • But, during the operation the doctor lost it. This lady was dying and he was panicking.

  • During the operation, apparently, he said, he shouted out, even though this lady was unconscious,

  • "Don't give up on me now, you bitch." [laughter]

  • Ajahn: That's what he said.

  • Be careful if you're a doctor or a nurse. Cause what happened next was when he came

  • round after the operation, they saved her life. They found out the problem and fixed it, so she was fine.

  • But on the first visit of the surgeon after the operation, he said in his very polite voice,

  • "Madam we came jolly close to losing you that time." "Yes" she said "I know. But why did

  • you call me a bitch?" [laughter]

  • Ajahn: Well, you can imagine what the doctor thought. "You were dead at the time! How'd

  • you know that?" and then of course she told she wasn't dead. Well she was dead, but she

  • was conscious. There's many anecdotes like that. I'm sure you've known anecdotes. Some

  • of you may have actually experienced that.

  • When I give a talk like that, there's two or three people that come up after and say

  • thank you for talking like that. I've had that experience. I've been out of my body.

  • This professor, Pim Van Lommel, he wanted to make this much more than an anecdote. He

  • wanted to find out scientifically whether this was true or not. His research which was

  • reported in the 2001 December edition of Lancet.

  • His research was over three hospitals. He was a professor looking after three hospitals

  • in the Netherlands. His sample group was every person who came into any of those hospitals

  • under cardiac arrest. I don't know, for a year or two, and of course those which survived.

  • Everyone who came in with cardiac arrest, who survived, he gave a questionnaire to.

  • To find out if they'd had any of these memories of what happened during the time they were

  • being resuscitated. The time they were "dead". He also recorded what happened in the ER room,

  • and in the operating theater. Just in case if they did say something was said, they could

  • find out whether the memory was accurate or not.

  • He found out, of the survivors, just under 10 percent of those people who survived, did have one

  • or more of the typical descriptions of NDEs, near death experiences. Floating out of the

  • body, hearing what was going on, whatever.

  • He could verify that these weren't imaginary memories. These were real memories. What they

  • said they heard was said. The procedures they described actually happened. It was accurate recall.

  • But the most fascinating part of his research was that those 10 percent or just under 10 percent,

  • were the people whose brain died.

  • That was what was distinguishing near death experiences, from those which didn't have near

  • death experiences. The brain stopped working and that signalled the beginning of the near death experience.

  • The fascinating part of his research would show that there was actual consciousness,

  • will, and the resulting memory happening when the brain was totally not working.

  • This is what happens also, when you get into very, very deep meditation.

  • One of the stories of one of our members here, he's not here this evening but it's a great story.

  • I wrote it down in my book "Mindfulness, Bliss, and Beyond", with this person's permission.

  • This was a person that got into such a deep meditation at home, I'll tell it very briefly,

  • that his wife was concerned he died. And so called the ambulance and he got taken to Sir

  • Charles Gairdner Hospital. It was on a weekend.

  • He was just an ordinary person meditating in his bedroom, but he was meditating for too long.

  • His wife checked him and could find no signs of life, so she called the ambulance.

  • The ambulance could find no signs of life, so took him to Charlie Gairdner's hospital,

  • where they put ECG and EEG on him. Both were flat. The guy had died, at least so the instruments said.

  • ECG there was no heart beat for a long time, EEG no brain activity. The brain was not working.

  • He was in a meditation. I told this story elsewhere so I won't elaborate on it.

  • After giving him defibrillators and many electric shocks, nothing worked. Eventually he came

  • out of his meditation. Just decided I've had enough, now I'll come out, just like you do.

  • And as soon as he came out of meditation both machines worked perfectly. ECG and EEG started

  • beeping in the proper way and he felt fine. He wondered what the hell he was doing in

  • hospital, he was in his bedroom. And, gave him a quick sort of check over, the doctor,

  • nothing wrong with the guy, so he actually went home.

  • He walked home. He obviously didn't live that far away from Sir Charles Gairdner hospital,

  • in Nedlands. He walked back home, he was that fit.

  • During that whole time he was perfectly alert, perfectly conscious, but not of his body or

  • his surroundings. He was deep inside. He was having a wonderful time, one of the best experiences of his life.

  • I say that anecdote, because, it's a person who comes here, because that was showing what

  • was happening when his brain had died in deep meditation. It was only a temporary. Real

  • death is when it really happens, and you're gone for a long time.

  • You can actually have evidence, and experience, of what happens when the brain stops working.

  • Temporarily, we call it near death experiences. When it happens full on, full time, that's called death.

  • That gives you some evidence of what actually happens. The brain stops working.

  • Number one it's entirely a pleasant experience for just about everybody. Why? Because this terrible

  • body, the burden of it, is let go of. You're free. My God, that feels good.

  • There's one, just like in deep mediation. I don't know how many times I've told you,

  • and I'm being honest with you, being straight up. I'm not sure if I should say these things,

  • but I do anyway, because I don't want to sort of hide anything from you guys. The bliss

  • in meditation is better than sex.

  • OK. Now I had sex before I became a monk. I've been celibate for the last 40 years,

  • but I got a good memory and I know meditation. [laughter]

  • Ajahn: My meditation is very good. It's much better! Now what that mediation is, is your

  • body disappears. It vanishes. That's what happens when you die. You're totally free of this body. It's blissful.

  • One of those anecdotes, I like these funny stories which people tell you, or you read

  • about, is this one lady who died on the operating table.

  • She left her body. Looking at her body over there, just a mess. Off she went.

  • Apparently, she described it as meeting some spirit, and the spirit saying "It's not your

  • time." You know, "You've got to go back."

  • She said, "No way. I'm having too good a time. I don't want to go back. Sorry."

  • The spirit said, "But you have to go back."

  • "I don't care about that, I'm not going."

  • People are pretty independent these days. You don't do what you're told by your parents,

  • or by the government, or by God, or anybody. So spirits? Go and get lost. I'm having a good time.

  • That degree of independence, she didn't want to go anywhere.

  • Until eventually having this argument, "that you got to go back, no way." Apparently she described,

  • because obviously she did go back, that's why she could tell this story, this spirit

  • sort of got hold of her and threw her back into her body.

  • It had all these aches and pains and heaviness again, and she was pissed off at that spirit. I mean, really big time.

  • So when she gave this interview, she said, "Now when I die next time, of course I will die eventually,

  • I'm going to find that guy. And you know what? I'm going to do to that guy what he did to me."

  • [laughter]

  • Ajahn: That's how she described it. The fascinating part of that, it's a funny story, is how pleasant

  • it was. You know, to die. That is actually very helpful for most people.

  • Everybody who has those experiences, one of the things they always say,

  • "Now I'm not afraid of dying, because I know what it's like. It's pleasant, it's

  • actually quite blissful, it's freedom, it's peace. You're having a great time."

  • Of course it's really interesting and important that people know that. Number one it takes

  • away the fear of your own death. It takes away a lot of the grief when someone you love dies.

  • It's OK for a priest to say, "Oh they're having a good time now." Having some evidence, "Yes,

  • they are having a good time. I know they're happy." That makes a lot of difference to people.

  • But not all people are happy after death. You know why? It's because you may be having a

  • lot of pleasure, or having a good time, but it's the way that we react to that good time.

  • "I don't deserve this. This is not good enough." Whatever it is.

  • This is where the way we react to what's happening to us can interfere with this normal beautiful

  • state of affairs when a person dies. Just like now. You may be having a good time.

  • A happy time. A peaceful day. A great weekend.

  • How many people think, "I don't deserve this" and you mess up your happiness. "It can't

  • be right, I'm enjoying myself."

  • That's obviously a great exaggeration of a very powerful, undercurrent in human nature,

  • called guilt. Negativity. Fault finding. If you develop that too much in this life, you're

  • going to develop it, it's going to be there for you after you die.

  • You have this beautiful opportunity to have a good time, and you will throw it away. Why?

  • "I don't deserve this. I'm a bad guy. I've done a bad thing." Or sheer fault finding,

  • negativity, which will stop you being free.

  • Even right now, I spend a huge amount of time in these Friday night talks, talking about

  • overcoming guilt. Having a positive view of yourself. Letting go of the pain of the past.

  • Not being a prisoner of any bad things you've done. Looking at the two bad bricks in the

  • wall, in the context of the 998 good bricks in the wall.

  • Getting that, not positive attitude, but fair attitude to life. I don't like the word positive

  • attitudes of life, because that's overdone. Being fair, being reasonable, being just, with yourself.

  • You're not a bad person. I've never met a bad person in my whole life. I've met John

  • Howard...and I shouldn't have said that. [laughter]

  • Ajahn: No, he's all right. He's a good guy.

  • I've met some murderers and rapists in jails. These are OK people. They don't want to do

  • bad things. But they don't deserve to be hated, or destroyed. That's what I mean. I've never

  • seen one person who deserves to be destroyed.

  • There's always some spark of goodness and kindness and beauty in them, and that's a

  • wonderful thing to realise. See that in yourself, for goodness sake. You deserve to be happy.

  • If you want a quick explanation of the meaning of life. Everyone wants to know the meaning

  • of life. It is, you deserve to be happy. That's your meaning of life. That has huge consequences.

  • Easy to say, but powerful consequences. Which means you can let go of the pain. You can

  • access the happiness, and the peace, and the joy.

  • So after you've passed away, the most important thing to do is to have that kindness towards

  • yourself. To make peace with what's happening. A lot of times, fear dominates people's lives.

  • One of the reasons why I give this talk tonight...and thank you for the person who reminded me that

  • I should have given this talk years ago...is to take away your fear. You know exactly what's

  • going to go on. You realise it does go on, and this is what happens, you're prepared.

  • A lot of times, fear is fear of the unknown. When death becomes part of the known, the

  • fear disappears, which means you can relax and enjoy the whole process, post death.

  • When it's fear, you know exactly what's happening, you just let go and enjoy.

  • Obviously, there's many people who have very, very strong attachments to this world. The

  • people they left behind. The things they left behind. That's something which again in Buddhism,

  • we say, "Look, you have to let go of that past.

  • You can't carry such things with you." That's obvious. You know that, but you have to learn

  • that. Have to train. Have to practice, to let go of things.

  • When you let go of your attachments, it doesn't mean you don't enjoy life. You enjoy the people

  • you're with. You enjoy the day. By the end of the day you had a great day. Now, you can

  • go to bed and let it go. Another day coming tomorrow.

  • The great simile of the concert, which is a beautiful simile which I got from my father's

  • death. Yeah, I only knew my father for 16 years.

  • I was not sad about his death. I don't regret that he only lived 16 years, because it was

  • a wonderful - 16 years with the guy. Just how lucky I was. The great concert. All concerts end.

  • How many people have been to a concert, and have burst out crying in grief afterwards?

  • "Oh, Justin Bieber has gone. [laughter] He will never come back to Western Australia." Of course not.

  • There's another concert coming back next week. Somebody even more beautiful or whatever.

  • These people come and go.

  • The nice thing about it is that's just life. Life is a series of concerts. These happy

  • moments we have. These joyful times we have. We know they must end. It doesn't mean that

  • we don't enjoy the times we have together because, "It's going to end! It's going to end!"

  • No, we don't allow that to spoil our day. We enjoy it to the max. When it ends, we feel

  • so grateful. What a wonderful time we've had. Thank you so much, and we move on to the next concert.

  • To the next day. We move on to the next life.

  • If you can train yourself like that, it's just like, even in your meditation. Totally

  • let go of the past. Free of it, so you can enjoy the moment, and allow the future to

  • evolve, wherever it goes.

  • The same training you use for peaceful, happy, successful meditations, right here, in this

  • room, every Friday or Saturday. The same things as what you do when you die. Let go of the past.

  • Don't be afraid of the future. Present moment and making peace. Being kind, being gentle,

  • right in this very moment. Please remember that.

  • The other similes which I've used before, which are mostly interesting. The people in

  • the Anxiety and Depression Conference. They all took that down as a great, little meditation

  • exercise, because they hadn't heard it before. The two heavy suitcases simile.

  • Imagine yourself, in meditation, carrying two heavy suitcases. The one in the left hand

  • is the past, and the one in the right hand is the future. How heavy it is, to carry those

  • suitcases? You imagine yourself putting down the first suitcase, then the second suitcase,

  • and you're free of all the burden.

  • You're in the present moment between the two suitcases, the past and future. That's what

  • you do when you die. You let go of your past. You've had a whole life behind you. In that

  • whole life you have many beautiful experiences, some unpleasant experiences.

  • Remember you have to have both. The unpleasant ones is where you learn, and the pleasant

  • experiences are like the holidays. It's the hard moments is like your work.

  • That's where you work. How you learn. You test yourself. You move forward. You learn

  • from those unpleasant experiences. We always call them growing pains.

  • The pleasant experiences that's when you get your paycheck. You're having your holiday. Having a good time.

  • That's part of life. When we die, we let go of the whole lot. We don't carry anything with us.

  • Everybody says, you can't take it with you, but you try to. That's the problem. When you've

  • trained yourself to let go of the past. Right now, in this very life. If you can let go

  • of the past, only then can you enjoy the moment.

  • It's amazing how much people have stopped themselves enjoying life, because of something

  • which someone said to you, or did to you, or what you did or said, in the past.

  • Why on earth do you do that? It's total loopy stuff, as far as I'm concerned. You're crazy.

  • Whatever someone said to you. Whatever they did to you. Whatever you said or did. Why

  • allow that to control your happiness in this moment?

  • I said that to these psychologists, "You don't have to do that." Realizing that's one of

  • the most powerful teachings of Buddhism, "You don't have to carry the past into the present.

  • You can let it go. It's allowed. It's possible, and it's a great benefit to do that."

  • You can be free. No one is torturing you, because of what you did, or what someone else

  • did to you. No one is torturing you, only you are. You have to let it go.

  • A good example of that, is like a story which I saw engraved in stone in Borobudur, this

  • great monument, in Java. Which I hope you've been to. It's a very beautiful monument. Ancient

  • Buddhist monument in the middle of Java.

  • I was very fortunate because one of my mates over there, the monk Sripanyuwara [?],

  • beautiful monk. I tried to get him over here many times, but he's not that well, and

  • so he can't come. He gave me the VIP tour of Borobudur. His monastery's really close by.

  • I got this VIP tour by this very great monk around the temple. Pointing out all of the

  • carvings. It's designed like the world system, and the bottom is like the hell realm. I don't know why,

  • that's what I was interested in. People always like horror movies and dramas where things go wrong.

  • But anyway, one of the carvings in the bottom there took my attention. Because I could say, "Now

  • this is actually how this death process works."

  • There was an old Buddhist story of a guy who had...pretty good guy, but he did one bad

  • act. He pushed over his mother, and she injured herself. Of course, he felt so guilty about

  • that, that when he died he got born in this hell realm.

  • He went down to meet this guy, in this terrible realm, and he saw this fellow having his head

  • cut with a razor wheel. Just cutting into his head continuously. Now obviously without him dying.

  • He's in great pain, but this guy said, "Alas, you've come. Because, when I got this wheel,

  • and it was 600 years ago, because I hurt my mother. I was told that in 600 years' time,

  • another guy will come because he also hurt his mum.

  • When he comes, the wheel will leave my head, and I'll be free of this torture, and it will

  • go into this other guy's head. Here you are, here's the wheel."

  • The wheel left this other guy, and the guy vanished from this torture, and it went into

  • this new guy's head. It was cutting his head. Incredible agony.

  • But this fellow, this new guy he had thoughts of kindness, of compassion, and he said, "I'm

  • going to take this wheel, not for 600 years, but for 3,000 years so the next four or five

  • guys don't have to bear this. I'll take the punishment for them."

  • For that kind thought, the wheel shattered and he was taken away from this hell realm, and

  • reborn in a heaven realm. Just one thought of kindness and compassion did that.

  • That was not a myth, that's a metaphor of what happens, whatever you have to experience,

  • in fact what you do experience, it's your attitude creates that experience. Your attitude

  • is the creator, the generator.

  • When you die, please don't have any thoughts of negativity. Because at that particular

  • time, you are creating your world. Yes, there are heaven realms, and there are hell realms.

  • But you create them and you make the one you think you deserve.

  • If you're a negative person, and if you think of all the bad things you've done, and have

  • guilt, and haven't let that go yet, at the end of your death you remember that, and you'll

  • think you are a bad person, and you will think you need to be punished. You'll design the punishment to suit you.

  • Now, remember these states when you are dead, it's the physical body has gone. You're in

  • a mind-made body. Mind-made realm. These are created by your mental world. I know how powerful

  • that is, your mental world. Because you create it, you can do all sorts of things with it.

  • One of the stories. Just to show you what can be done. Many, many years ago, when I

  • started meditating, I was getting into a deep state. My body had gone. I saw this monster

  • in front of me, like a demon, with big eyes, red eyes.

  • Big fangs in his mouth, dripping blood. Fresh, red blood. A necklace of skulls. This really spiky

  • head (ugh!) with the tongue hanging out ugh! Right in front of me, in my meditation.

  • Now, would you guys be scared? A lot of times people are scared, because they don't know what

  • to do. I was wise enough, even by this time, to know how I create the world.

  • Because I knew that I was the creator, and because of my character, the first thing I

  • did was put a couple of sunnies over this guy's eyes.

  • I just needed to think that, and this guy had a pair of Ray Bans over his big, googly eyes.

  • I blacked out a few of his fangs, like you used to do as a school kid, doodling.

  • And I put a cigarette out of his mouth to make him look like some delinquent monster.

  • Then the last thing I did, I put a straw hat over his head, with a little flower coming out it.

  • I created that monster into something which was totally ridiculous. Which I laughed inside,

  • and the monster went and never came back again. Because I created that thing, and I could

  • un-create it with a positive, fun, compassionate mind.

  • That happened to this one guy in our monastery, years ago, who came to see me. He was staying

  • for a few months, and a few weeks. He was seeing in every of the paving bricks, he'd

  • see a monster come out of them. He thought he was going crazy. I told him that technique.

  • One day later, he said, "I had a wonderful day. Amazing how you could create these funny

  • pictures out of these monsters. Of course, it just disappeared after that."

  • Now, this is the power of the creative mind in meditation, especially, when you get into

  • deep meditations, or when you die, which is pretty similar. When the body disappears,

  • you haven't got so many restrictions, caused by solid stuff on what your mind creates.

  • Remembering that, when you die, please learn how to create this very positive and beautiful

  • things. Of course, you're going to be creating your next realm. You create it.

  • By developing a beautiful, positive, kind, loving mind, that's what you're going to be

  • creating for your future. You have that opportunity.

  • I know in some systems that sometimes the monks go round and chant, or whatever else

  • happens, just to try and create that positive mood for the person who's dead. Sometimes you can't

  • hear that. You can't see that, but at the very least, create it for yourself.

  • Yeah, you will get reborn somewhere. It's up to you. You'll get reborn where you think

  • you deserve to be reborn. You create these worlds. The same way that I remember when

  • I was a young kid over in London.

  • I used to go out sometimes for a drink with my mates to a pub. But some people used to

  • go to these pubs in London, and there would always be a fight.

  • I saw it a couple of times. A couple of people would get drunk, and they'd have a big punch-up

  • outside, and blood everywhere. I thought, "Why do people go to pubs like that?" The

  • reason is, because they like fighting.

  • They're looking for that. I thought, "Why do people create these circumstances, where

  • they get into this violence. They get into this negativity. They get into this pain?"

  • Because that's what people want.

  • So I ask you, "What do you want? What do you really want? Not what you think you want,

  • but what you really want deep inside?"

  • Please cultivate the mind. Have a beautiful mind. A compassionate mind. A forgiving mind.

  • That's the world you'll create. You create it in this life.

  • I don't know if some of you have difficult relationships? Don't blame your partner. It's

  • nothing to do with...well it is to do with your partner, but it's also to do with you.

  • As I said, every other week here, it's not his fault. It's not her fault. It's not my

  • fault. Our fault? You're involved in that. Don't just pass the buck to the other. You're involved.

  • Don't just blame yourself. It's us.

  • Because, it's all about us, there's always things you can do. You can create a beautiful

  • world for yourself, even in this life.

  • This life is much tougher, because you've got so many solid restrictions. So many barriers.

  • It's tough to create a good world in this life, but you can still do pretty well.

  • Imagine when you're free, when you die, you've got much more opportunities. So don't create

  • a hell realm for yourself when you die. How do you overcome that? Forgiveness. No guilt.

  • Don't blame yourself.

  • Don't blame anybody else. Sometimes when someone does something wrong, "I don't know why they

  • did that? But I'm not going to blame them. I don't understand it. I don't understand

  • why they did that, but they obviously thought they were doing the right thing."

  • There's a great emphasis on forgiveness of other people in Buddhism. A great emphasis

  • on forgiveness of yourself. That's so paramount when you die. Please forgive.

  • That's why in many of the funeral ceremonies which we do, we do a forgiveness ceremony.

  • With the people left behind, and the deceased.

  • I speak for the person who's died. Say on their behalf, "I ask forgiveness. Anything

  • which this person who's just died may have done to any of you, by body, speech or mind. Intentional

  • or unintentional. Sometimes by accident.

  • We say sorry. On behalf of the person who's died. Please forgive them. Let it go."

  • So there can be no pain. No guilt. No idea of "justice", which is usually ideas of revenge,

  • past this point of death. So you can be free.

  • Doing that is very helpful. Obviously, it's also help for the people left behind, to let

  • go of the pain of the past. It's a beautiful feeling, because then you don't

  • have to be suffering from all this terrible stuff of the past.

  • We do make mistakes and I said I think last week, remember the simile of an examination.

  • I used to set tests. If everybody got 10 out of 10 or if everybody got nought or 1 out of 10 in

  • my math tests I gave when I was a school teacher, that would be a terrible test.

  • The idea of a test at school is to get about six, seven, eight out of 10 because, as a

  • teacher, I wanted to encourage my students but I also wanted to find out what their weaknesses were.

  • When they made a couple of mistakes, "Ah, I could see where you're weak. I'll have to

  • put some more emphasis on my next lesson." The test was giving encouragement, but also

  • giving feedback so I could see where their weaknesses are. That's called life.

  • We encourage so you have enough success in life. You're encouraged. You're motivated.

  • When life does go wrong, when you do make a mistake, great. That's pointing out some

  • of your weaknesses.

  • That's where you can work, and get stronger, where you can learn more about yourself and

  • about life. If the test of life means you're always suffering, you're always having a hard

  • time, everything's always going wrong, that's a bad test.

  • About 6 or 7, 8 out of 10 should be about the optimum test in life, and most human beings are like that.

  • Yeah. You have your fun. You're having a great time, but every now and again, 20 percent

  • of the time, you have some pain, suffering, or disappointment. Well done! That's testing you. Please welcome that.

  • Don't think it's wrong. That way we can learn. We can grow, and at the end of life -- Look.

  • School's out. It's over. No more tests. Well done! Enjoy yourself. School is weak. Dead is weak, whatever you call it.

  • Corpse is weak. Have a great time. Enjoy yourself. You've done a lot of hard work. Well done,

  • you've learned. Maybe you haven't graduated yet. You have to go back next year, but you've done well.

  • That positive attitude towards yourself, the wise attitude to the mistakes and the pain

  • of life means you don't get angry, you don't get negative. Which mean at the time of your death those

  • attitudes are just not there.

  • That stream of consciousness which continues on, you know what that will feel like if you've

  • done some meditation. That would mean that post-death period is a beautiful period.

  • You can create a heaven realm for yourself.

  • If you want to come back, you can come back here and try again, learn some more, get some

  • more understanding. Move your development further along, because you know one life is

  • not enough to really train yourself, to really love, to forgive, to know.

  • But you've all done very well. You have enough smarts, enough good karma to come and listen

  • to talks like this. You're already pretty far on the path. Take that further, and understand

  • then that that time after the death would be very peaceful, very beautiful.

  • That natural, beautiful feeling of happiness and peace will not be destroyed by any negativity.

  • You can actually go with it, flow with it.

  • I know many people start saying they see this person, they see Jesus, they see God, they

  • see whatever, but remember these are mind-made realms. You're not seeing any sort of spiritual

  • being. The person you are seeing is a reflection of yourself, what you expect to see.

  • I know that from the meditations. Every time I start talking about that beautiful light

  • -- we call it nimitta in Buddhist mediation -- it took a long time to realize that's a reflection of my own mind.

  • I learned that because, sometimes, my nimitta was a bit dull and dirty. The sooner

  • I realized I hadn't behaved that day, I had done something wrong, that's why it wasn't

  • so pure. Other days, it was, brilliant, and pure, and wonderful, and delightful because

  • I had done a lot of good work that day.

  • I realized I was looking at my mind. This purity, that's what you see when you die.

  • Don't worry. You're pretty good. You're more than good enough. That's why it looks very

  • beautiful. It's the reflection of you.

  • If you see some light or a spirit, don't think that someone else is judging you. No one else

  • judges you. Only you do. You all know that. At least you should do.

  • No one has the right to judge you. Only you do. The most wonderful thing is to not judge

  • yourself at all. That's why I think last week I was staying in Indonesia when a Christian

  • came up and said, "What about judgment day?", then I would say,

  • "Buddhists don't have judgment day. They have forgiveness day."

  • It's beautiful. Forgiveness, that's love. Judgment is pain, harshness, violence, aggression,

  • judging. Forgives, "Oh, it doesn't matter. You are OK. You're more than good enough."

  • That type of judgment, of not judgment at all but forgiveness, that's if you've been

  • training yourself spiritually.

  • When you die, you see that beautiful light and it's not fearful anymore, it's beautiful,

  • loving, accepting, forgiving. Then you can actually merge with it. You never think about

  • it as some sort of God judging you.

  • Anybody sees the light. Doesn't matter if there is a Jesus or a God, or a Kuan Yin

  • or whatever they see. It's not these things remember, this is what you add on

  • when you come back afterwards.

  • This is just you. So don't judge yourself. Many people say that's a symbol of love. What is a symbol

  • of love? Forgiveness, accepting, embracing. You come to peace with yourself. Isn't that

  • wonderful to come to peace with yourself before you die? To realise, yeah, you're OK.

  • There's nothing wrong with you. That is such a wonderful insight to have years ago,

  • at last to realise, no matter what other people say, there's nothing wrong with me. Oh, what a relief.

  • I'm now going to disprove that. I'm going over time, I should finish off and I haven't

  • told today's joke yet. I'm now going to disprove myself to show there's something terribly

  • wrong with me, I tell terrible jokes. This is apt.

  • It was told me last week and a couple of people know this, and it fits in here because it's

  • not human beings who get reborn, but other animals also get reborn. I don't know if you

  • know that even penguins, they have this beautiful sense of social cohesion.

  • They have their own ceremonies when one of their members dies.

  • Apparently what happened is this penguin died, and as soon as it died all its friends came

  • around it to grieve. Then after grieving for a little while they actually dug a hole in

  • the snow and the ice and they put the dead penguin in the snow and the ice.

  • They covered him over with the freezing ice. Afterwards they did a little ceremony for

  • the dead penguin, their friend. They sang a song. "Freeze a jolly good fellow, freeze

  • a jolly good...." [laughter]

  • Ajahn: That's one of the worst jokes I've ever said in my life. [laughs] Nevertheless,

  • it shows my attitude, having fun with whatever I have to do in life. Please keep that attitude

  • and you know that's how you deal with the end of your life.

  • Then you get a beautiful rebirth or even no rebirth at all if you can totally let go.

  • But if I keep carrying on, because I've gone over three minutes past nine, you'll all die before

  • I finish this talk so it's a waste of time.

  • I'm giving you some information about the attitudes towards death, which also reflect

  • your attitudes towards life. No guilt, please forgiveness, you deserve to be happy. Just go with it.

  • Mistakes in life, things which go wrong, it's part of the meaning

  • of life. Learning, get 10 out of 10 every day there's no meaning to life at all, you're not learning anything.

  • So when it gets hard, when it's hurting, growing pains, learn from it. You're becoming a better

  • person. Tough, hard, but my goodness it is actually good for you.

  • Thank you for listening to the talk this evening about what happens after you die. [applause]

  • Ajahn Brahm: Thank you, are there any questions about this evening's talk, or comments? Yes, go on.

  • Ajahn: Please make it quick because people are already leaving. [laughter]

  • Ajahn: Exactly! The pain disturbs the consciousness, the morphine disturbs the consciousness but go for

  • the morphine, go for the pain killers, because that's only up to the time when real death starts.

  • Once real death starts, once you leave the brain you're absolutely clear. Don't be afraid

  • of that. Even if your [?] is like "I want to be there when I die." You will be! It just

  • takes away the irritation and the disturbance of the pain.

  • You've all heard me teach meditation for many years. How gentle I am when I teach you meditation.

  • Don't keep sitting if it's painful -- just move because pain is disturbance for developing the beauty of the mind.

  • The same when you are dying. Take the Morphine. Get into as comfortable position as you can

  • physically, so you can forget about the body.

  • Yeah, you will be dull for many many sort of hours before you're dead, the actual death. Once

  • the death happens, the brain turns off, just like Professor Pim Van Lommel noticed. Then you're free.

  • That's when you can start really practicing, remembering all you've been taught. Practicing peace,

  • kindness, love, forgiveness, because then you can do that. If you got pain, I agree that pain takes precedence.

  • You can't even think about any Dhamma, you're just dealing with the agony and the demands of the pain,

  • which takes precedence over everything else. It shouts the loudest.

  • Absolutely true.

  • Great! Any other comments or questions before you die? [laughter]

  • Ajahn: Yes?

  • Ajahn: Life after life, yeah.

  • Ajahn: Yeah, there's many, many books like that. Because the evidence is there. Lots of people have researched, lots

  • of honest people have said what it's like. Get out there and see the evidence, because it

  • could happen to you. So read those books before it's too late! [laughter]

  • Who knows what's going to happen next? Anyway...

Ajahn: OK, so since the last talk last Friday, I've been doing my usual practice of flying around

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