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SASHA GREY: It's not going to matter what
magazine says about me.
It's not going to matter what TV show says I'm a bad
influence on youth.
It's really about continuing to just follow my dreams and
passions, be myself, and share my voice.
I was in college.
And I was working six, seven days a week.
And if I was by myself, not studying, I was probably
watching porn.
And it was like, yeah, I like it, and yeah, I can get off.
But I felt like there was a creative component missing.
And I also had different ideas of what sex was.
And I felt sick--
you know what I mean?
I felt sick to my stomach.
I'm like, I'm not supposed to think this way.
I was the oldest out of all my friends
to lose their virginity.
I was 16 and a half.
I know that's funny.
But I was a senior in high school.
I kind of had this very male-driven mentality, like, I
don't want to love a boy to have sex with him.
And at the same time, I was so conflicted internally.
Like, I didn't know how do I go about doing that and just
feel safe and feel like I'm in control?
So for me, getting in the business was a way to continue
exploring those things safely.
But then also, I kind of just had this awakening.
And I started to really understand the sexual
revolution that I so idealized.
It doesn't matter what you say to your parents.
No parent wants their kid doing porn.
I didn't tell them until I had been here for two weeks.
Because, like, I want to get down there, and get started,
and then tell them.
And my mom is Catholic.
So that's where the guilt comes from.
And my dad was just like, follow your goals
and don't fuck up.
And it was all in the subtext, like, I'm going to be really
fucking disappointed if you fuck up, and do something
stupid, and make the wrong mistakes.
I showed a series of photos to my literary agent in 2007.
And I had been taking photographs onset to just
document my environment each day.
And they were just, like, for me to look back
on when I was older.
For me, it was about self-examination in these
self-portraits.
Some of them look more like a documentary-style photo.
But they were completely conceived of.
And it's funny, because you could say, no, that's totally
candid, right?
No, it's not.
Or this totally looks like something post-sex.
No, it's not.
I think what, for me, is kind of important is that it leaves
people guessing.
I think it shows misconceptions about the adult
industry that don't apply to everybody.
Right now I'm really focusing on proving myself as an actor.
So while going out and looking for roles, the thing that
keeps me really going, and driven, and motivated is when
I'm not working.
Because that's when you want it the most.
And that's when you're hungry.
And that's when you want to stand up and fucking scream
and say, I can do this.
So my friend and our writing partner, Anthony, is coming
into town today.
And we're going to have a three-day writing workshop.
So it's really about creating opportunities for myself.
2006.
Our band, aTelecine, started making music, and we ended up
putting it on MySpace without my name.
People liked it.
So we were, like, well, OK.
What happens when we put Sasha Grey as part of it?
And of course, that helped us get our deal
with Pendu and Dais.
I can't sing, but I sing.
I can't play a cool Sabbath song on
guitar, but I play guitar.
You know what I mean?
It's just pure fun.
And it became really cathartic.
I love Throbbing Gristle, Current 93, Joy Division,
Parliament-Funkadelic, NWA.
This is what I played this morning before you guys came.
Oh, yeah.
This one is really good.
It's a live Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young.
I'm pretty sure somebody did cocaine off of the back of
this, because there are literally razor marks on the
back of this.
DAVID CHOE: Hey.
How's it going?
SASHA GREY: Good to see you.
(BRITISH ACCENT) Thank you for watching Granada Television.
Without further ado--
oh, wait, sorry.
This is Vice, right?
I don't think this guy needs an introduction.
This is Dave Choe.
INTERVIEWER: How do you guys know each other?
DAVID CHOE: That actually involves
our friend over there.
SASHA GREY: James wanted to paint me,
because he liked my work.
DAVID CHOE: Your work?
That's a very interesting--
SASHA GREY: It's a very diverse body of work.
DAVID CHOE: I went out with Sasha once
to the Machete premiere.
And so every single person was like, hey!
I love your work in Entourage.
And I was like, wait.
So what did they say before you were in, like,
movies and TV shows?
And they're like, oh, I love your work.
SASHA GREY: People, they want to say it.
But they're so polite about it.
Because I look like I'll kick someone's ass?
DAVID CHOE: I have a radio station upstairs.
So we'll do, like, a real interview.
This is a radio show that I have that's
broadcast to nowhere.
You'll probably hear this after the world's exploded.
So is it true, this whole journey?
You're very determined.
You knew, at a very young age, porn, this is
what I want to do.
And you said, I wasn't going to do it forever.
Then you got out.
Now you're doing movies, TV shows.
The bottom line for all of this is--
tell me if this is true.
You're working, doing all this stuff to ultimately own a
blow-dry salon in Las Vegas?
Is that true?
That's the golden--
SASHA GREY: That was my master plan.
DAVID CHOE: That's the golden pot at the end of the rainbow?
SASHA GREY: Ah, yes.
Because all I care about is hair.
DAVID CHOE: Probably one of the best painters I know,
James Jean.
We were painting her naked in Highland Park.
And you were rocking a pretty big bush back then.
SASHA GREY: Still am.
DAVID CHOE: You brought that back, right?
SASHA GREY: I don't know if I
single-handedly brought it back.
DAVID CHOE: I think a lot of your appeal is that you look
like such a nice girl that could be, like, a model for
Victoria's Secret or something.
And then you always imagine--
SASHA GREY: Without the boobs?
DAVID CHOE: You got nice boobs.
SASHA GREY: Oh, I like my boobs.
DAVID CHOE: I mean, you don't look like
most porn stars, basically.
And you were doing super, like, violent, crazy shit.
SASHA GREY: See, violence is the way you like to put it.
DAVID CHOE: I don't know.
How would you put that?
SASHA GREY: No, I mean, I don't think I
feel the way you feel.
And I think a lot of people expect me--
DAVID CHOE: Some of your movies were, like, borderline
snuff films, I think.
This is the mask I wore in Coachella for Die Antwoord's
American debut.
[COMPUTER VOICE]
SASHA GREY: Ugh!
My head is bigger than Dave's.
[COMPUTER VOICE]
SASHA GREY: Shut up!
DAVID CHOE: Now that you're not doing porn, do you feel
like there's something missing?
Like, you're like, damn, I used to do fucking gangbangs
and all this shit, and now--
SASHA GREY: No, I think it's more about a new way of
discovering sex, because there's no camera there.
And I think you get so used to having a camera watching you.
And that's part of what makes it exciting.
So now it's about finding out ways to make it that exciting.
DAVID CHOE: What are these ways?
Explain.
I want to know these ways.
SASHA GREY: It's less about exactly what you're doing, and
more about the adrenaline rush that you get.
DAVID CHOE: Has it had a real negative effect for what you
want to do now?
Because I mean, people compare, like, oh, it's Sasha
and Jenna Jameson are the two that made it out of this.
But yeah, the internet exists.
And that will stay with you forever.
So you are trying out for, like, mainstream
movies and TV shows.
Has that caught up to you to the point where people say
fucked up shit to you?
SASHA GREY: No.
Nobody will ever say anything to your face.
I think right now it's about proving that
I'm not just lucky.
Because that's a way a lot of people perceive
it as, she's lucky.
She got these chances.
And any porn star could have done it.
So it's about proving that I can go way,
way, way beyond that.
I mean, sex and money are the two oldest professions.
And they've always been part of society.
And they've always been part of art in a huge away, even
before video, or even before films.
DAVID CHOE: Anything else you want to say about whores or
married sex life?
SASHA GREY: Your blanket looks like it came
out of a crack den.
DAVID CHOE: Yeah.
SASHA GREY: I don't know where you got this thing.
DAVID CHOE: This is my spot, right here.
SASHA GREY: You just want to put the blanket over the--
DAVID CHOE: That's my glory hole.
That's, like, you know.
I don't like to be touched during sex.
I need to be under a lot of fabric.
That's my weird shit that I'm into.
SASHA GREY: You'd probably like latex, then.
DAVID CHOE: Yeah.
I like latex.
I like masks.
I like hiding.
SASHA GREY: That's fun.
DAVID CHOE: Hit it as hard as you can.
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