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  • We humans have always been very concerned about the health of our bodies,

    身為人類,我們時常會關心 個人的健康問題,

  • but we haven't always been that good at figuring out what's important.

    卻總是找錯重點。

  • Take the ancient Egyptians, for example:

    以古埃及人為例:他們非常重視

  • very concerned about the body parts they thought they'd need in the afterlife,

    身體的各個部位,因為這將是 他們來世的軀體,

  • but they left some parts out.

    但仍會有的放矢。

  • This part, for example.

    以此為例。

  • Although they very carefully preserved the stomach, the lungs,

    古埃及人會謹慎處理胃、肺

  • the liver, and so forth,

    肝等器官,

  • they just mushed up the brain, drained it out through the nose,

    但對於頭部,他們只會沖洗鼻腔,

  • and threw it away,

    然後就隨便處理掉了,

  • which makes sense, really,

    這樣的作法合理的,

  • because what does a brain do for us anyway?

    想想大腦對我們的幫助為何就知道了?

  • But imagine if there were a kind of neglected organ in our bodies

    但試想如果我們所忽視 的一個體內器官

  • that weighed just as much as the brain

    它的重量恰巧和大腦相同

  • and in some ways was just as important to who we are,

    決定我們會成為怎樣的人,

  • but we knew so little about and treated with such disregard.

    但因為我們的無知而被打入冷宮。

  • And imagine if, through new scientific advances,

    再試想,如果隨著科技的不斷進步

  • we were just beginning to understand

    我們開始注意到

  • its importance to how we think of ourselves.

    原來它對我們如此重要。

  • Wouldn't you want to know more about it?

    你還會繼續對它視而不見嗎?

  • Well, it turns out that we do have something just like that:

    我想,接下來你可能會:

  • our gut,

    開始關注我們的腸道

  • or rather, its microbes.

    或更多東西,比如腸道中的微生物。

  • But it's not just the microbes in our gut that are important.

    當然不是只有腸道中的 微生物值得關注。

  • Microbes all over our body

    它無處不在,遊走于我們體內,

  • turn out to be really critical to a whole range of differences

    是造成人體差異,

  • that make different people who we are.

    形成不同個體的關鍵因素。

  • So for example, have you ever noticed

    舉例來說,你有沒有發現

  • how some people get bitten by mosquitos way more often than others?

    有些人就是特別容易被蚊蟲叮?

  • It turns out that everyone's anecdotal experience out camping is actually true.

    事實上每個人的露營 經驗談都沒有造假。

  • For example, I seldom get bitten by mosquitos,

    拿我來說,蚊子很少叮我,

  • but my partner Amanda attracts them in droves,

    但我的太太阿曼達是牠們的最愛,

  • and the reason why is that we have different microbes on our skin

    原因就是我倆表皮上的 微生物形成了

  • that produce different chemicals that the mosquitos detect.

    不同的化學物質,導致 蚊蟲的反應不同。

  • Now, microbes are also really important in the field of medicine.

    目前,微生物對醫療也 發揮著重要作用。

  • So, for example, what microbes you have in your gut

    比如,腸道中的微生物能判斷

  • determine whether particular painkillers are toxic to your liver.

    某些止痛劑對肝臟是否 有毒副作用。

  • They also determine whether or not other drugs will work for your heart condition.

    它們還能判斷其它藥物是否會 影響你的心臟功能。

  • And, if you're a fruit fly, at least,

    如果你是只果蠅,微生物至少

  • your microbes determine who you want to have sex with.

    能決定你嚮往的交配對象。

  • We haven't demonstrated this in humans yet

    當然對於人類尚未明斷

  • but maybe it's just a matter of time before we find out. (Laughter)

    但相信有一天我們會 找到答案(笑聲)

  • So microbes are performing a huge range of functions.

    所以,微生物的作用很多。

  • They help us digest our food.

    它們有助於食物消化。

  • They help educate our immune system.

    可以錘煉我們的免疫系統。

  • They help us resist disease,

    還能幫助我們抵抗疾病,

  • and they may even be affecting our behavior.

    甚至會影響我們的行為。

  • So what would a map of all these microbial communities look like?

    那麼這些微生物群落 有著怎樣的結構呢?

  • Well, it wouldn't look exactly like this,

    我想不太會像這樣,

  • but it's a helpful guide for understanding biodiversity.

    但我們可以藉此 了解生物多樣性。

  • Different parts of the world have different landscapes of organisms

    不同的地方正因為

  • that are immediately characteristic of one place or another

    有了不同的生物體

  • or another.

    才賦予了他們獨有的特色。

  • With microbiology, it's kind of the same, although I've got to be honest with you:

    對於微生物界,道理相同, 但我也必須承認:

  • All the microbes essentially look the same under a microscope.

    它們在顯微鏡下看起來都一樣。

  • So instead of trying to identify them visually,

    所以,既然無法從 視覺上區分他們,

  • what we do is we look at their DNA sequences,

    那麼我們只能從 基因序列來辨別,

  • and in a project called the Human Microbiome Project,

    在一項名為人類微生物組 項目的計劃中,

  • NIH funded this $173 million project

    NTH 投資了 17300 萬美元,

  • where hundreds of researchers came together

    同時該項目還吸引到了 數百位研究人員

  • to map out all the A's, T's, G's, and C's,

    為的是弄清所有A's、 T's、 G's和C's

  • and all of these microbes in the human body.

    以及人體內所有微生物 的排列組合。

  • So when we take them together, they look like this.

    結果我們看到了 這樣一幅景象。

  • It's a bit more difficult to tell who lives where now, isn't it?

    這樣你很難看出它們 的具體位置,對嗎?

  • What my lab does is develop computational techniques that allow us

    我的實驗室為此開發 了一種計算技術

  • to take all these terabytes of sequence data

    可將序列數據取值 到兆兆字節

  • and turn them into something that's a bit more useful as a map,

    同時排列組合成可用性 更高的圖譜樣式,

  • and so when we do that with the human microbiome data

    所以如果我們將250名 健康的志願受試者

  • from 250 healthy volunteers,

    體內的微生物數據代入其中,

  • it looks like this.

    會顯示這樣的圖譜。

  • Each point here represents all the complex microbes

    這其中的每個點都代表整個

  • in an entire microbial community.

    微生物群落中各個複雜的微生物。

  • See, I told you they basically all look the same.

    就像我說的,它們的樣子 都差不多。

  • So what we're looking at is each point represents one microbial community

    所以我們的觀察重點是 每個點是代表一位健康

  • from one body site of one healthy volunteer.

    志願受試者的某個軀體部位 的一個微生物群落。

  • And so you can see that there's different parts of the map in different colors,

    我們像區分大陸板塊一樣, 用不同顏色

  • almost like separate continents.

    在圖譜中標識不同部位。

  • And what it turns out to be

    由此可以發現

  • is that those, as the different regions of the body,

    在軀體不同區域

  • have very different microbes in them.

    會聚集不同的微生物。

  • So what we have is we have the oral community up there in green.

    現在我們看到的綠色群落 是口腔微生物群落。

  • Over on the other side, we have the skin community in blue,

    在另一邊藍色的群落是 肌膚的微生物群落,

  • the vaginal community in purple,

    紫色的是陰道微生物群落,

  • and then right down at the bottom, we have the fecal community in brown.

    而在右下方棕色的是 肛腸區的微生物群落。

  • And we've just over the last few years

    近幾年來,我們驚奇地發現

  • found out that the microbes in different parts of the body

    人體不同部位的微生物

  • are amazingly different from one another.

    竟然各不相同。

  • So if I look at just one person's microbes

    所以,如果我們觀察一個人口腔和

  • in the mouth and in the gut,

    腸道中的微生物,

  • it turns out that the difference between those two microbial communities

    會發現這兩個部位的微生物群落

  • is enormous.

    的差異相當大。

  • It's bigger than the difference between the microbes in this reef

    人體中微生物群落的差異比

  • and the microbes in this prairie.

    暗礁和草原微生物群落的差異更大。

  • So this is incredible when you think about it.

    細想真是不可思議。

  • What it means is that a few feet of difference in the human body

    這表示如果從微生物生態學來看,

  • makes more of a difference to your microbial ecology

    人體中微生物存在的些許差異

  • than hundreds of miles on Earth.

    轉變為地球生態,其差異 可以是天差地別的。

  • And this is not to say that two people look basically the same

    也就是說,兩個看似相同的人

  • in the same body habitat, either.

    未必有相同的體內環境。

  • So you probably heard

    你可能聽過這樣的說法

  • that we're pretty much all the same in terms of our human DNA.

    如果從人類的 DNA 來看, 每個人都幾近相同。

  • You're 99.99 percent identical in terms of your human DNA

    以 DNA 來說,你和

  • to the person sitting next to you.

    隔壁的人相似度可達 99.99%。

  • But that's not true of your gut microbes:

    但是說道腸道微生物就不一樣了:

  • you might only share 10 percent similarity

    從腸道微生物的角度來看,

  • with the person sitting next to you in terms of your gut microbes.

    相鄰兩人的相似度可能僅有10%。

  • So that's as different as the bacteria on this prairie

    這就好比草原中存活的細菌

  • and the bacteria in this forest.

    不同於森林中存活的細菌。

  • So these different microbes

    如同我之前提到的, 正是這些各不相同的微生物

  • have all these different kinds of functions that I told you about,

    在人體中產生了不同的功用,

  • everything from digesting food

    從消化食物

  • to involvement in different kinds of diseases,

    到影響各類病症、

  • metabolizing drugs, and so forth.

    代謝藥物等等。

  • So how do they do all this stuff?

    那麼微生物是如何 集結成群,發揮作用的?

  • Well, in part it's because

    一方面是因為,

  • although there's just three pounds of those microbes in our gut,

    這些僅重三磅的腸道衛生物

  • they really outnumber us.

    其實際數目卻是驚人的。

  • And so how much do they outnumber us?

    你問數目有多驚人?

  • Well, it depends on what you think of as our bodies.

    這取決於你怎麼看待人體。

  • Is it our cells?

    如果你支持細胞論?

  • Well, each of us consists of about 10 trillion human cells,

    那麼每個人都是由約10萬億 個人體細胞組成的,

  • but we harbor as many as 100 trillion microbial cells.

    而我們體內存有的微生物細胞 達100萬億個。

  • So they outnumber us 10 to one.

    也就是說相當於10個我們。

  • Now, you might think, well, we're human because of our DNA,

    當然,如果你推崇DNA的概念,

  • but it turns out that each of us has about 20,000 human genes,

    那麼目前已知的確切數字是,

  • depending on what you count exactly,

    我們體內的遺傳因子約為20,000個,

  • but as many as two million to 20 million microbial genes.

    而微生物基因的數量可達 200萬至2000萬個。

  • So whichever way we look at it, we're vastly outnumbered

    所以無論是支持哪種理論,

  • by our microbial symbionts.

    我們都是由無數的 微生物共生體組成的。

  • And it turns out that in addition to traces of our human DNA,

    所以我們不但要研究人類的DNA,

  • we also leave traces of our microbial DNA

    我們所接觸對象的

  • on everything we touch.

    微生物DNA也是有待挖掘的領域。

  • We showed in a study a few years ago

    我們在過去幾年進行的研究顯示,

  • that you can actually match the palm of someone's hand up

    如將某人留在常用鼠標上的物質

  • to the computer mouse that they use routinely

    與其本身的掌紋相比較,

  • with up to 95 percent accuracy.

    其匹配率可高達95%。

  • So this came out in a scientific journal a few years ago,

    數年前曾有科學雜誌報道過這項發現,

  • but more importantly, it was featured on "CSI: Miami,"

    不過美國影集“CSI:邁阿密系列” 令它街知巷聞,

  • so you really know it's true.

    可見這不是編劇杜撰的。

  • (Laughter)

    (大笑)

  • So where do our microbes come from in the first place?

    那麼微生物從何而來?

  • Well if, as I do, you have dogs or kids,

    像我一樣,如果你有養狗或小孩,

  • you probably have some dark suspicions about that,

    可能難免會對此產生些 邪惡的疑慮,

  • all of which are true, by the way.

    順便一提,這都說得通。

  • So just like we can match you to your computer equipment

    正如我們可以將你 留在計算機設備上的

  • by the microbes you share,

    的微生物與本體作比較,

  • we can also match you up to your dog.

    同樣的結果也可以印證在狗的身上。

  • But it turns out that in adults,

    結果我們發現,成人的微生物群落

  • microbial communities are relatively stable,

    相對穩定。

  • so even if you live together with someone,

    所以即使你和某人生活在一起,

  • you'll maintain your separate microbial identity

    仍可維持數週、數月、甚至數年

  • over a period of weeks, months, even years.

    你獨有的微生物特性。

  • It turns out that our first microbial communities

    也就是說我們最初的微生物群落

  • depend a lot on how we're born.

    取決於我們的出生環境。

  • So babies that come out the regular way,

    所以,對於順產的寶寶

  • all of their microbes are basically like the vaginal community,

    他們的微生物特性通常更接近 於陰道部位的群落特征,

  • whereas babies that are delivered by C-section,

    而剖腹產的寶寶,

  • all of their microbes instead look like skin.

    其微生物特性更接近于 肌膚的微生物群落。

  • And this might be associated with some of the differences

    而這種差異也可能被認為與

  • in health associated with Cesarean birth,

    剖腹產寶寶的體質健康有關聯,

  • such as more asthma, more allergies, even more obesity,

    比如目前就有較多人 認為微生物可能

  • all of which have been linked to microbes now,

    與哮喘、過敏甚至是肥胖症有關,

  • and when you think about it, until recently, every surviving mammal

    基於這一點,反觀直至目前,

  • had been delivered by the birth canal,

    每個經產道分娩的哺乳動物,

  • and so the lack of those protective microbes

    以及所缺少的、

  • that we've co-evolved with might be really important

    共同進化、起保護作用的微生物,

  • for a lot of these different conditions that we now know involve the microbiome.

    可能正是催生出不同 微生物學條件的重要因素。

  • When my own daughter was born a couple of years ago

    幾年前我太太在緊急情況下

  • by emergency C-section,

    剖腹產下我的女兒,

  • we took matters into our own hands

    我們只能自食其力

  • and made sure she was coated with those vaginal microbes

    後天給予女兒如同順產般

  • that she would have gotten naturally.

    可受到的陰道微生物群的保護。

  • Now, it's really difficult to tell whether this has had an effect

    目前,我們尚無法判斷

  • on her health specifically, right?

    這對她的健康是否有用,不是嗎?

  • With a sample size of just one child, no matter how much we love her,

    我們的觀察樣本只有一個孩子, 無論我們多愛她,

  • you don't really have enough of a sample size

    我們還是缺少足夠的觀察樣本,

  • to figure out what happens on average,

    推斷出平均水平,

  • but at two years old, she hasn't had an ear infection yet,

    直到她兩歲時, 尚未患支氣管炎,

  • so we're keeping our fingers crossed on that one.

    為此我們也一直祈禱她健康。

  • And what's more, we're starting to do clinical trials with more children

    同時我們也開始通過臨床試驗 觀察其他孩子,

  • to figure out whether this has a protective effect generally.

    藉此判斷這種微生物 是否能起到一般保護作用。

  • So how we're born has a tremendous effect on what microbes we have initially,

    可見分娩方式不同, 初生時體內微生物的不同,

  • but where do we go after that?

    其影響也是巨大的, 那麼接下來我們該做什麼?

  • What I'm showing you again here is this map

    這裡我將再次出示這張

  • of the Human Microbiome Project Data,

    人體微生物項目數據圖譜,

  • so each point represents a sample from one body site

    圖譜中的每個點都 代表 250 位健康成年人

  • from one of 250 healthy adults.

    各個身體部位的取樣結果。

  • And you've seen children develop physically.

    各位已經熟悉兒童的生理發育,

  • You've seen them develop mentally.

    也瞭解他們的心理成長,

  • Now, for the first time, you're going to see

    現在,你們將首次見證

  • one of my colleague's children develop microbially.

    我同事的一個孩子 在微生物意義上的蛻變。

  • So what we are going to look at

    我們接下來要觀察的對象

  • is we're going to look at this one baby's stool,

    就是這個孩子的“粑粑”,

  • the fecal community, which represents the gut,

    即代表腸道的糞便菌落,

  • sampled every week for almost two and a half years.

    我們每週採樣,持續近兩年半時間。

  • And so we're starting on day one.

    我們從第一天開始觀察,

  • What's going to happen is that the infant is going to start off as this yellow dot,

    這個黃球的運動軌跡 就是嬰兒的微生物發育過程,

  • and you can see that he's starting off basically in the vaginal community,

    它基本上從陰道菌落開始出發,

  • as we would expect from his delivery mode.

    這也符合孩子的分娩方式。

  • And what's going to happen over these two and a half years

    在兩年半的時間裡,

  • is that he's going to travel all the way down

    它由上而下運動,

  • to resemble the adult fecal community from healthy volunteers down at the bottom.

    最終與底部的健康志願者 糞便菌落相吻合。

  • So I'm just going to start this going and we'll see how that happens.

    我們來看這一運動過程是怎樣的。

  • What you can see, and remember each step in this is just one week,

    請注意,黃球的每一步移動都歷時一周,

  • what you can see is that week to week,

    大家可以看到這個孩子

  • the change in the microbial community of the feces of this one child,

    糞便微生物菌落的每週變化情況,

  • the differences week to week are much greater

    這種變化遠遠超出了

  • than the differences between individual healthy adults

    人類微生物菌落專案對列中

  • in the Human Microbiome Project cohort,

    健康成人個體之間的差異。

  • which are those brown dots down at the bottom.

    底部的褐色球表示 成人個體的微生物菌落。

  • And you can see he's starting to approach the adult fecal community.

    我們可以看到, 它正開始接近成人糞便菌落。

  • This is up to about two years.

    此時已過去了近兩年時間。

  • But something amazing is about to happen here.

    但一場“奇跡”即將在這裡上演。

  • So he's getting antibiotics for an ear infection.

    孩子因為耳部感染而服用了抗生素,

  • What you can see is this huge change in the community,

    這導致其微生物菌落發生巨變,

  • followed by a relatively rapid recovery.

    接著是相對快速的修復。

  • I'll just rewind that for you.

    我們再來看一遍。

  • And what we can see is that just over these few weeks,

    經過短短幾周時間,

  • we have a much more radical change,

    我們發現微生物菌落的變化越來越大,

  • a setback of many months of normal development,

    拖累了孩子數個月的正常發育,

  • followed by a relatively rapid recovery,

    接下來是相對快速的修復,

  • and by the time he reaches day 838,

    等到第838天,

  • which is the end of this video,

    也就是這段影片的結尾處,

  • you can see that he has essentially reached the healthy adult stool community,

    我們可以清楚地看到, 儘管有抗生素的干預,

  • despite that antibiotic intervention.

    孩子的糞便菌落已經與健康成人相差無幾。

  • So this is really interesting because it raises fundamental questions

    這個過程非常有趣,

  • about what happens when we intervene at different ages in a child's life.

    它暗示了對不同年齡段的兒童 進行干預會引發某些問題。

  • So does what we do early on, where the microbiome is changing so rapidly,

    微生物的變化是如此之快,

  • actually matter,

    是否意味著我們早期的干預行為,

  • or is it like throwing a stone into a stormy sea,

    就像在風大浪急的海面投入一粒石子,

  • where the ripples will just be lost?

    泛不起絲毫漣漪?

  • Well, fascinatingly, it turns out that if you give children antibiotics

    結果,我們卻驚奇地發現,

  • in the first six months of life,

    如果兒童在出生後六個月內服用抗生素,

  • they're more likely to become obese later on

    他們將來會比同時期不服用抗生素

  • than if they don't get antibiotics then or only get them later,

    或稍晚服用的兒童更容易變胖,

  • and so what we do early on may have profound impacts

    所以我們早期的干預行為

  • on the gut microbial community and on later health

    可能會給兒童的腸道微生物菌落

  • that we're only beginning to understand.

    以及他們未來的健康埋下嚴重的隱患。

  • So this is fascinating, because one day, in addition to the effects

    這是令人震驚的發現, 因為將來會有一天,

  • that antibiotics have on antibiotic-resistant bacteria,

    抗生素除了對耐抗生素細菌

  • which are very important,

    產生重大影響之外,

  • they may also be degrading our gut microbial ecosystems,

    還可能削弱人類腸道微生物生態系統,

  • and so one day we may come to regard antibiotics with the same horror

    到那時,我們會談抗生素色變,

  • that we currently reserve for those metal tools

    那種恐懼感絲毫不亞於對埃及人

  • that the Egyptians used to use to mush up the brains

    使用金屬工具搗碎人腦, 然後使腦漿流盡

  • before they drained them out for embalming.

    進行屍體防腐的做法所產生的恐懼。

  • So I mentioned that microbes have all these important functions,

    我剛提到了微生物具有這些重要作用,

  • and they've also now, just over the past few years,

    並且經過前幾年的潛心研究,

  • been connected to a whole range of different diseases,

    我們發現微生物與 多種疾患息息相關,

  • including inflammatory bowel disease,

    包括炎性腸病、

  • heart disease, colon cancer,

    心臟病、結腸癌,

  • and even obesity.

    甚至肥胖症。

  • Obesity has a really large effect, as it turns out,

    肥胖對人的影響不可小覷,

  • and today, we can tell whether you're lean or obese

    通過觀察人體腸道內的微生物,

  • with 90 percent accuracy

    我們現在有9成的把握

  • by looking at the microbes in your gut.

    判斷一個人是消瘦還是肥胖。

  • Now, although that might sound impressive,

    儘管這聽上去令人振奮,

  • in some ways it's a little bit problematic as a medical test,

    但就醫學試驗而言, 某些方面仍存在障礙,

  • because you can probably tell which of these people is obese

    因為即使你對腸道微生物一無所知,

  • without knowing anything about their gut microbes,

    也能分辨這兩個人中誰比較胖,

  • but it turns out that even if we sequence their complete genomes

    而即便掌握了他們的完整基因組序列

  • and had all their human DNA,

    以及全部的人體DNA,

  • we could only predict which one was obese with about 60 percent accuracy.

    我們也只有6成的把握 推斷誰患有肥胖症。

  • So that's amazing, right?

    是不是感到大跌眼鏡?

  • What it means that the three pounds of microbes that you carry around with you

    這意味著對於某些健康狀況而言,

  • may be more important for some health conditions

    人體內的三磅微生物可能

  • than every single gene in your genome.

    比基因組內的每一個基因都重要。

  • And then in mice, we can do a lot more.

    後來,我們對小鼠做了大量的試驗。

  • So in mice, microbes have been linked to all kinds of additional conditions,

    小鼠體內的微生物關乎各種健康狀況,

  • including things like multiple sclerosis,

    包括多發性硬化、

  • depression, autism, and again, obesity.

    抑鬱症、自閉症,還有肥胖症。

  • But how can we tell whether these microbial differences

    然而,如何判斷這些與疾病息息相關的

  • that correlate with disease are cause or effect?

    微生物差異究竟是因還是果?

  • Well, one thing we can do is we can raise some mice

    我們做了這樣一個試驗:

  • without any microbes of their own in a germ-free bubble.

    在無菌氣泡袋中培育體內 無自身微生物的小鼠,

  • Then we can add in some microbes that we think are important,

    然後,給它們添加一些 我們認為重要的微生物,

  • and see what happens.

    看會發生什麼情況。

  • When we take the microbes from an obese mouse

    當我們從肥胖症小鼠 身上提取微生物,

  • and transplant them into a genetically normal mouse

    移植到氣泡袋中培育的

  • that's been raised in a bubble with no microbes of its own,

    體內無自身微生物的 基因正常小鼠身上時,

  • it becomes fatter than if it got them from a regular mouse.

    它比從普通小鼠移植微生物時變得更胖。

  • Why this happens is absolutely amazing, though.

    這背後的原因令人震驚不已。

  • Sometimes what's going on is that the microbes

    有些時候,微生物幫助

  • are helping them digest food more efficiently from the same diet,

    小鼠更高效地消化食物,

  • so they're taking more energy from their food,

    從而攝取更多的能量,

  • but other times, the microbes are actually affecting their behavior.

    另一些時候,微生物實際 會影響它們的行為。

  • What they're doing is they're eating more than the normal mouse,

    它們吃的比正常小鼠多,

  • so they only get fat if we let them eat as much as they want.

    如果不加限制, 只會越吃越胖。

  • So this is really remarkable, right?

    這一點很耐人尋味,對嗎?

  • The implication is that microbes can affect mammalian behavior.

    它意味著微生物可能 影響哺乳動物的行為。

  • So you might be wondering whether we can also do this sort of thing across species,

    大家可能很好奇, 這一做法能否沿用到其他物種?

  • and it turns out that if you take microbes from an obese person

    從一個胖人身上提取微生物,

  • and transplant them into mice you've raised germ-free,

    移植到無菌培育的小鼠身上,

  • those mice will also become fatter

    與從一個瘦人身上提取微生物相比,

  • than if they received the microbes from a lean person,

    前者會導致小鼠變得更胖,

  • but we can design a microbial community that we inoculate them with

    但我們可以設計一種微生物菌落, 給這些小鼠接種,

  • that prevents them from gaining this weight.

    預防其體重增加。

  • We can also do this for malnutrition.

    這種做法同樣適合治療營養不良。

  • So in a project funded by the Gates Foundation,

    在一個蓋茨基金會資助的專案中,

  • what we're looking at is children in Malawi

    我們把關注的目光投向馬拉維

  • who have kwashiorkor, a profound form of malnutrition,

    患有誇休可爾症, 即惡性營養不良的兒童,

  • and mice that get the kwashiorkor community transplanted into them

    我們將誇休可爾菌落移植到小鼠體內後,

  • lose 30 percent of their body mass

    小鼠在短短三周內

  • in just three weeks,

    體重暴降了30%,

  • but we can restore their health by using the same peanut butter-based supplement

    不過,我們可以利用在診所中治療孩子的

  • that is used for the children in the clinic,

    花生醬補充物使小鼠重獲健康,

  • and the mice that receive the community

    相比之下,從誇休可爾症孩子的健康 同卵雙胞胎身上

  • from the healthy identical twins of the kwashiorkor children do fine.

    移植菌落的小鼠卻健康狀況良好。

  • This is truly amazing because it suggests that we can pilot therapies

    這真是不可思議, 它意味著我們可以

  • by trying them out in a whole bunch of different mice

    使用不同的人體腸道菌落,

  • with individual people's gut communities

    在一群小鼠中進行療法試點,

  • and perhaps tailor those therapies all the way down to the individual level.

    並且有望做到個性化定制。

  • So I think it's really important that everyone has a chance

    所以,我認為讓每個人都有機會

  • to participate in this discovery.

    從這一發現中獲益至關重要。

  • So, a couple of years ago,

    為此,我們在幾年前

  • we started this project called American Gut,

    啟動了這個名為“美國腸道”的專案,

  • which allows you to claim a place for yourself on this microbial map.

    讓每個人在這張微生物圖上占得一席之地。

  • This is now the largest crowd-funded science project that we know of --

    這是我們迄今已知的最大眾籌專案——

  • over 8,000 people have signed up at this point.

    已有8000多人報名參加。

  • What happens is, they send in their samples,

    專案流程很簡單,報名者寄來樣本,

  • we sequence the DNA of their microbes and then release the results back to them.

    我們生成微生物DNA序列, 再將結果寄回給他們。

  • We also release them, de-identified, to scientists, to educators,

    我們還將結果“去識別化”,

  • to interested members of the general public, and so forth,

    發佈給科研人員、教育工作者, 還有感興趣的普通民眾,

  • so anyone can have access to the data.

    讓每個人都能分享這些資料。

  • On the other hand,

    不僅如此,

  • when we do tours of our lab at the BioFrontiers Institute,

    我們還來到 BioFrontiers 研究所的實驗室,

  • and we explain that we use robots and lasers to look at poop,

    循循善誘地向大家介紹使用 機器人和鐳射來觀察“粑粑”,

  • it turns out that not everyone wants to know.

    結果,並不是所有人都表現得興致盎然。

  • (Laughter)

    (笑聲)

  • But I'm guessing that many of you do,

    但我猜想在座的各位很多人都有興趣,

  • and so I brought some kits here if you're interested

    所以我今天帶來了一些試驗用具,

  • in trying this out for yourself.

    有興趣的話,大家可以親自嘗試。

  • So why might we want to do this?

    我們為什麼要這樣做?

  • Well, it turns out that microbes are not just important

    因為我們發現,微生物不僅有助於

  • for finding out where we are in terms of our health,

    我們瞭解自身的健康狀況,

  • but they can actually cure disease.

    而且能夠治癒疾病。

  • This is one of the newest things we've been able to visualize

    這是我們與明尼蘇達大學的同事

  • with colleagues at the University of Minnesota.

    能夠形象化展示的最新發現之一。

  • So here's that map of the human microbiome again.

    我們再來看一下這張 人類微生物菌落圖。

  • What we're looking at now --

    現在,我們來看這裡--

  • I'm going to add in the community of some people with C. diff.

    我準備在這裡增加一些 難辨梭狀芽孢桿菌攜帶者的菌落。

  • So, this is a terrible form of diarrhea

    這是一種嚴重的腹瀉細菌,

  • where you have to go up to 20 times a day,

    人感染後一天要跑20多趟廁所,

  • and these people have failed antibiotic therapy for two years

    這些腹瀉患者用了 兩年的抗生素療法仍不見成效,

  • before they're eligible for this trial.

    最終入選了我們的微生物療法試驗。

  • So what would happen if we transplanted some of the stool from a healthy donor,

    如果我們將健康捐贈者的糞菌,

  • that star down at the bottom,

    即這張圖底部的星形微生物,

  • into these patients.

    移植到腹瀉患者身上會怎樣?

  • Would the good microbes do battle with the bad microbes

    良性微生物與惡性微生物會相互較量,

  • and help to restore their health?

    幫助患者恢復健康嗎?

  • So let's watch exactly what happens there.

    讓我們仔細觀察究竟會發生什麼。

  • Four of those patients are about to get a transplant

    其中四名患者將從底部的

  • from that healthy donor at the bottom,

    健康捐贈者那裡移植糞菌,

  • and what you can see is that immediately,

    然後你會看到腸道菌落

  • you have this radical change in the gut community.

    立刻發生天翻地覆的變化。

  • So one day after you do that transplant,

    等到某一天移植完成後,

  • all those symptoms clear up,

    所有症狀蕩然無存,

  • the diarrhea vanishes,

    腹瀉徹底消失,

  • and they're essentially healthy again, coming to resemble the donor's community,

    患者基本恢復健康, 形成了與捐贈者相似的菌落,

  • and they stay there.

    並長久地保持下去。

  • (Applause)

    (掌聲)

  • So we're just at the beginning of this discovery.

    所以,這就是我們新的發現。

  • We're just finding out that microbes have implications

    微生物對各種不同的疾病,

  • for all these different kinds of diseases,

    從炎性腸病到肥胖症,

  • ranging from inflammatory bowel disease to obesity,

    甚至包括自閉症和抑鬱症,

  • and perhaps even autism and depression.

    都具有十分重要的意義。

  • What we need to do, though,

    我們要做的,

  • is we need to develop a kind of microbial GPS,

    就是開發一種微生物 GPS,

  • where we don't just know where we are currently

    讓我們瞭解自己目前身在何處,

  • but also where we want to go and what we need to do

    未來要去往何方,

  • in order to get there,

    也知道如何到達目的地,

  • and we need to be able to make this simple enough

    而且,我們要讓一切變簡單,

  • that even a child can use it. (Laughter)

    連小孩都能信手拈來。 (笑聲)

  • Thank you.

    謝謝。

  • (Applause)

    (掌聲)

We humans have always been very concerned about the health of our bodies,

身為人類,我們時常會關心 個人的健康問題,

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B1 TED 微生物 群落 腸道 健康 人體

【TED】羅伯-奈特:我們的微生物如何讓我們成為我們(Rob Knight: How our microbes make us who we are)。 (【TED】Rob Knight: How our microbes make us who we are (Rob Knight: How our microbes make us who we are))

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