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  • I'm not quite sure whether I really want to see

  • a snare drum at nine o'clock or so in the morning.

  • But anyway, it's just great to see such a full theater,

  • and really I must thank Herbie Hancock

  • and his colleagues for such a great presentation. (Applause)

  • One of the interesting things,

  • of course, is the combination of that raw hand on the instrument

  • and technology, and of course what he said about listening to our young people.

  • Of course, my job is all about listening,

  • and my aim, really, is to teach the world to listen.

  • That's my only real aim in life.

  • And it sounds quite simple, but actually it's quite a big, big job.

  • Because you know, when you look at a piece of music -- for example,

  • if I just open my little motorbike bag -- we have here, hopefully,

  • a piece of music that is full of little black dots on the page.

  • And, you know, we open it up and I read the music.

  • So technically, I can actually read this.

  • I will follow the instructions, the tempo markings, the dynamics.

  • I will do exactly as I'm told.

  • And so therefore, because time is short,

  • if I just play you literally the first maybe two lines or so. It's very straightforward.

  • There's nothing too difficult about the piece.

  • But here I'm being told that the piece of music is very quick.

  • I'm being told where to play on the drum.

  • I'm being told which part of the stick to use.

  • And I'm being told the dynamic.

  • And I'm also being told that the drum is without snares.

  • Snares on, snares off.

  • So therefore, if I translate this piece of music, we have this idea. (Music)

  • And so on. My career would probably last about five years.

  • However, what I have to do as a musician is do everything that is not on the music.

  • Everything that there isn't time to learn from a teacher,

  • or to talk about, even, from a teacher.

  • But it's the things that you notice when you're not actually with your instrument

  • that in fact become so interesting, and that you want to explore

  • through this tiny, tiny surface of a drum.

  • So there, we experience the translation. Now we'll experience the interpretation. (Music) (Applause)

  • Now my career may last a little longer!

  • But in a way, you know, it's the same if I look at you and I see

  • a nice bright young lady with a pink top on.

  • I see that you're clutching a teddy bear, etc., etc.

  • So I get a basic idea as to what you might be about, what you might like,

  • what you might do as a profession, etc., etc.

  • However, that's just, you know, the initial idea I may have that we all get

  • when we actually look, and we try to interpret,

  • but actually it's so unbelievably shallow.

  • In the same way, I look at the music; I get a basic idea;

  • I wonder what technically might be hard, or, you know, what I want to do.

  • Just the basic feeling.

  • However, that is simply not enough.

  • And I think what Herbie said -- please listen, listen.

  • We have to listen to ourselves, first of all.

  • If I play, for example, holding the stick -- where literally I do not let go of the stick --

  • you'll experience quite a lot of shock coming up through the arm.

  • And you feel really quite -- believe it or not --

  • detached from the instrument and from the stick,

  • even though I'm actually holding the stick quite tightly.

  • By holding it tightly, I feel strangely more detached.

  • If I just simply let go and allow my hand, my arm, to be more of a support system,

  • suddenly I have more dynamic with less effort. Much more.

  • And I just feel, at last, one with the stick and one with the drum.

  • And I'm doing far, far less.

  • So in the same way that I need time with this instrument,

  • I need time with people in order to interpret them.

  • Not just translate them, but interpret them.

  • If, for example, I play just a few bars of a piece of music

  • for which I think of myself as a technician --

  • that is, someone who is basically a percussion player ... (Music)

  • And so on. If I think of myself as a musician ... (Music)

  • And so on. There is a little bit of a difference there that is worth just -- (Applause)

  • -- thinking about.

  • And I remember when I was 12 years old,

  • and I started playing tympani and percussion, and my teacher said,

  • "Well, how are we going to do this? You know, music is about listening."

  • And I said, "Yes, I agree with that. So what's the problem?"

  • And he said, "Well, how are you going to hear this? How are you going to hear that?"

  • And I said, "Well, how do you hear it?"

  • He said, "Well, I think I hear it through here."

  • And I said, "Well, I think I do too -- but I also hear it through my hands,

  • through my arms, cheekbones, my scalp, my tummy, my chest, my legs and so on."

  • And so we began our lessons every single time tuning drums --

  • in particular, the kettle drums, or tympani --

  • to such a narrow pitch interval, so something like ...

  • that of a difference. Then gradually ... and gradually ...

  • and it's amazing that when you do open your body up,

  • and open your hand up to allow the vibration to come through,

  • that in fact the tiny, tiny difference ...

  • can be felt with just the tiniest part of your finger, there.

  • And so what we would do is that I would put my hands on the wall

  • of the music room, and together we would "listen" to the sounds of the instruments,

  • and really try to connect with those sounds

  • far, far more broadly than simply depending on the ear.

  • Because of course, the ear is, I mean, subject to all sorts of things.

  • The room we happen to be in, the amplification, the quality of the instrument,

  • the type of sticks ... etc., etc.

  • They're all different.

  • Same amount of weight, but different sound colors.

  • And that's basically what we are. We're just human beings,

  • but we all have our own little sound colors, as it were,

  • that make up these extraordinary personalities

  • and characters and interests and things.

  • And as I grew older, I then auditioned for the Royal Academy of Music in London,

  • and they said, "Well, no, we won't accept you, because we haven't a clue,

  • you know, of the future of a so-called 'deaf' musician."

  • And I just couldn't quite accept that.

  • And so therefore, I said to them, "Well, look, if you refuse --

  • if you refuse me through those reasons,

  • as opposed to the ability to perform and to understand and love

  • the art of creating sound --

  • then we have to think very, very hard about the people you do actually accept."

  • And as a result -- once we got over a little hurdle, and having to audition twice --

  • they accepted me. And not only that --

  • what had happened was that it changed the whole role

  • of the music institutions throughout the United Kingdom.

  • Under no circumstances were they to refuse any application whatsoever on the basis of

  • whether someone had no arms, no legs --

  • they could still perhaps play a wind instrument if it was supported on a stand.

  • No circumstances at all were used to refuse any entry.

  • And every single entry had to be listened to, experienced and then

  • based on the musical ability -- then that person could either enter or not.

  • So therefore, this in turn meant that there was an extremely interesting

  • bunch of students who arrived in these various music institutions.

  • And I have to say, many of them now

  • in the professional orchestras throughout the world.

  • The interesting thing about this as well, though --

  • (Applause) --

  • is quite simply that not only were people connected with sound --

  • which is basically all of us, and we well know that music really is our daily medicine.

  • I say "music," but actually I mean "sound."

  • Because you know, some of the extraordinary things I've experienced

  • as a musician, when you may have a 15-year-old lad

  • who has got the most incredible challenges,

  • who may not be able to control his movements,

  • who may be deaf, who may be blind, etc., etc. --

  • suddenly, if that young lad sits close to this instrument,

  • and perhaps even lies underneath the marimba,

  • and you play something that's so incredibly organ-like, almost --

  • I don't really have the right sticks, perhaps --

  • but something like this. Let me change. (Music)

  • Something that's so unbelievably simple --

  • but he would be experiencing something that I wouldn't be,

  • because I'm on top of the sound.

  • I have the sound coming this way.

  • He would have the sound coming through the resonators.

  • If there were no resonators on here, we would have ... (Music)

  • So he would have a fullness of sound that those of you in the front few rows

  • wouldn't experience, those of you in the back few rows wouldn't experience either.

  • Every single one of us, depending on where we're sitting,

  • will experience this sound quite, quite differently.

  • And of course, being the participator of the sound,

  • and that is starting from the idea of what type of sound I want to produce --

  • for example, this sound.

  • Can you hear anything?

  • Exactly. Because I'm not even touching it.

  • But yet, we get the sensation of something happening.

  • In the same way that when I see tree moves,

  • then I imagine that tree making a rustling sound.

  • Do you see what I mean?

  • Whatever the eye sees, then there's always sound happening.

  • So there's always, always that huge --

  • I mean, just this kaleidoscope of things to draw from.

  • So all of my performances are based on entirely what I experience,

  • and not by learning a piece of music, putting on someone else's interpretation of it,

  • buying all the CDs possible of that particular piece of music, and so on and so forth.

  • Because that isn't giving me enough of something that is so raw and so basic,

  • and something that I can fully experience the journey of.

  • So it may be that, in certain halls, this dynamic may well work. (Music)

  • It may be that in other halls, they're simply not going to experience that

  • at all and so therefore, my level of soft,

  • gentle playing may have to be ... (Music)

  • Do you see what I mean? So, because of this explosion in access to sound,

  • especially through the deaf community,

  • this has not only affected how music institutions,

  • how schools for the deaf treat sound -- and not just as a means of therapy --

  • although of course, being a participator of music,

  • that definitely is the case as well.

  • But it's meant that acousticians have had to really think about the types of halls

  • they put together. There are so few halls in this world

  • that actually have very good acoustics,

  • dare I say. But by that I mean where you can absolutely do anything you imagine.

  • The tiniest, softest, softest sound to something that is so broad,

  • so huge, so incredible! There's always something --

  • it may sound good up there, may not be so good there.

  • May be great there, but terrible up there.

  • Maybe terrible over there, but not too bad there, etc., etc.

  • So to find an actual hall is incredible

  • -- for which you can play exactly what you imagine,

  • without it being cosmetically enhanced.

  • And so therefore, acousticians are actually in conversation with people who are

  • hearing impaired, and who are participators of sound.

  • And this is quite interesting.

  • I cannot, you know, give you any detail as far as what is actually happening

  • with those halls, but it's just the fact that they are going to a group of people

  • for whom so many years we've been saying,

  • "Well, how on Earth can they experience music? You know, they're deaf."

  • We just -- we go like that, and we imagine that that's what deafness is about.

  • Or we go like that, and we imagine that's what blindness is about.

  • If we see someone in a wheelchair, we assume they cannot walk.

  • It may be that they can walk three, four, five steps. That, to them, means they can walk.

  • In a year's time, it could be two extra steps.

  • In another year's time, three extra steps.

  • Those are hugely important aspects to think about.

  • So when we do listen to each other,

  • it's unbelievably important for us to really test our listening skills,

  • to really use our bodies as a resonating chamber, to stop the judgment.

  • For me, as a musician who deals with 99 percent of new music,

  • it's very easy for me to say, "Oh yes, I like that piece.

  • Oh no, I don't like that piece." And so on.

  • And you know, I just find that I have to give those pieces of music real time.

  • It may be that the chemistry isn't quite right between myself and that particular piece of music,

  • but that doesn't mean I have the right to say it's a bad piece of music.

  • And you know, it's just one of the great things about being a musician,

  • is that it is so unbelievably fluid.

  • So there are no rules, no right, no wrong, this way, that way.

  • If I asked you to clap -- maybe I can do this.

  • If I can just say, "Please clap and create the sound of thunder."

  • I'm assuming we've all experienced thunder.

  • Now, I don't mean just the sound;

  • I mean really listen to that thunder within yourselves.

  • And please try to create that through your clapping. Try. Just -- please try.

  • (Applause)

  • Very good! Snow. Snow. Have you ever heard snow?

  • Audience: No.

  • Evelyn Glennie: Well then, stop clapping. (Laughter) Try again.

  • Try again. Snow.

  • See, you're awake.

  • Rain. Not bad. Not bad.

  • You know, the interesting thing here, though, is that I asked a group of kids

  • not so long ago exactly the same question.

  • Now -- great imagination, thank you very much.

  • However, not one of you got out of your seats to think,

  • "Right! How can I clap? OK, maybe ... (Claps)

  • Maybe I can use my jewelry to create extra sounds.

  • Maybe I can use the other parts of my body to create extra sounds."

  • Not a single one of you thought about clapping in a slightly different way

  • other than sitting in your seats there and using two hands.

  • In the same way that when we listen to music,

  • we assume that it's all being fed through here.

  • This is how we experience music. Of course it's not.

  • We experience thunder -- thunder, thunder. Think, think, think.

  • Listen, listen, listen. Now -- what can we do with thunder?

  • I remember my teacher. When I first started, my very first lesson,

  • I was all prepared with sticks, ready to go.

  • And instead of him saying, "OK, Evelyn, please, feet slightly apart,

  • arms at a more-or-less 90 degree angle, sticks in a more-or-less V shape,

  • keep this amount of space here, etc.

  • Please keep your back straight, etc., etc., etc." --

  • where I was probably just going to end up absolutely rigid, frozen,

  • and I would not be able to strike the drum,

  • because I was thinking of so many other things -- he said,

  • "Evelyn, take this drum away for seven days, and I'll see you next week."

  • So, heavens! What was I to do? I no longer required the sticks;

  • I wasn't allowed to have these sticks.

  • I had to basically look at this particular drum,

  • see how it was made, what these little lugs did, what the snares did.

  • Turned it upside down, experimented with the shell, experimented with the head.

  • Experimented with my body, experimented with jewelry,

  • experimented with all sorts of things.

  • And of course, I returned with all sorts of bruises and things like that --

  • but nevertheless, it was such an unbelievable experience,

  • because then, where on Earth are you going to experience that in a piece of music?

  • Where on Earth are you going to experience that in a study book?

  • So we never, ever dealt with actual study books.

  • So for example, one of the things that we learn

  • when we are dealing with being a percussion player, as opposed to a musician,

  • is basically straightforward single stroke rolls.

  • Like that. And then we get a little faster and a little faster and a little faster.

  • And so on and so forth. What does this piece require?

  • Single stroke rolls. So why can't I then do that whilst learning a piece of music?

  • And that's exactly what he did.

  • And interestingly, the older I became, and when I became a full-time student

  • at a so called "music institution," all of that went out of the window.

  • We had to study from study books.

  • And constantly, the question, "Well, why? Why? What is this relating to?

  • I need to play a piece of music." "Oh, well, this will help your control!"

  • "Well, how? Why do I need to learn that? I need to relate it to a piece of music.

  • You know. I need to say something.

  • "Why am I practicing paradiddles?

  • Is it just literally for control, for hand-stick control? Why am I doing that?

  • I need to have the reason,

  • and the reason has to be by saying something through the music."

  • And by saying something through music, which basically is sound,

  • we then can reach all sorts of things to all sorts of people.

  • But I don't want to take responsibility of your emotional baggage.

  • That's up to you, when you walk through a hall.

  • Because that then determines what and how we listen to certain things.

  • I may feel sorrowful, or happy, or exhilarated, or angry when I play

  • certain pieces of music, but I'm not necessarily

  • wanting you to feel exactly the same thing.

  • So please, the next time you go to a concert,

  • just allow your body to open up, allow your body to be this resonating chamber.

  • Be aware that you're not going to experience the same thing as the performer is.

  • The performer is in the worst possible position for the actual sound,

  • because they're hearing the contact of the stick on the drum,

  • or the mallet on the bit of wood, or the bow on the string, etc.,

  • or the breath that's creating the sound from wind and brass.

  • They're experiencing that rawness there.

  • But yet they're experiencing something so unbelievably pure,

  • which is before the sound is actually happening.

  • Please take note of the life of the sound after the actual initial strike,

  • or breath, is being pulled. Just experience the whole journey of that sound

  • in the same way that I wished I'd experienced the whole journey

  • of this particular conference, rather than just arriving last night.

  • But I hope maybe we can share one or two things as the day progresses.

  • But thank you very much for having me!

  • (Applause)

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