there are still functions they were that we have to, you know deliver ourselves.

For example fatherhood. Sure. So how would you educate your five boys?

Actually I created a little school. Yeah.

What kind of school? Could you describe to us? Sure it's … I mean it's small. It's

only got 14 kids now and it'll have 20 kids in September. It's called “Ad Astra”,

which means to the stars.

What’s maybe a bit different from most other schools, is that there aren't any grades.

There's no grade 1, grade 2, grade 3 type of thing and making all the children go in

the same grade at the same time like an assembly line.

I know. You know, because some people love English or languages. Some people love math.

Some people love music. And they have different abilities at different times. It makes more

sense to cater the education to match their aptitudes and abilities.

I think that's one principle. Another is that it's important to teach problem solving or

teach to the problem not to the tools. So this would be like: Let’s say you're trying to

teach people about how engines work, you could start by…

a more traditional approach would be to say we're going to teach all about screwdrivers

and wrenches. And you are going to have a course on screwdrivers, a course on wrenches and all these

things and it's… there's a very difficult way to do it.

A much better way would be: here's the engine, now let's take it apart: how we're going to

take it apart? Ah, you need a screwdriver! That's what a screwdriver is for. You need a wrench

that's what a wrench is for. And then a very important thing happens,

which is, that the relevance of the tools becomes apparent. So your 5 boys are in that school.

Yes. Until when? This is from preschool. I don’t know. So

far it’s only one year old. They like it. They like it. Yeah. And you

want to keep them away from regular school? No I just didn't see

that the regular schools. They weren't doing the things that I thought should be done.

Like, you know those two principles, they weren’t adhering to those principles. I

thought: Well, let's see what we can do. Maybe creating a school would be better and I actually

hired a teacher from the school they were at.

He also agreed with me that there was a better way to do it. Have they surprised you, in

a way of their innovative thinking?

Yeah, it seems to be going pretty well. I mean the kids really love going to

School. I think that’s a good sign, you know. I mean, I hated going to school when I was

a kid.It was torture. So the fact that they actually

think vacations are too long. They want to go back to school. Wow. Yeah, exactly. That’s weird. I know…