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  • I see case-based learning as a form of problem-based learning, essentially. So, the idea of starting

  • with a problem and finding out what you need to know to solve the problem, and usually

  • working with other people doing that. Typically, we will be working with a scenario where people

  • are in conflict, or perhaps they are trying to do a deal of some sort. And they have some

  • general information that they both share, but they also have some private information

  • that's confidential to them and they come together and have a negotiation and trying

  • to reach a deal. We then usually debrief that negotiation session and talk about what worked,

  • what didn't work, what the challenges were. Try to bring out some of the pedagogical points

  • from their readings and some reflections for future practice. Typically, what I will have

  • done is given the students the problem ahead of time. They will have had a chance to do

  • research - if they're acting as a lawyer, meeting with their client - coming up with

  • some strategy that they want to try in the negotiation. So the idea is that they've actually

  • done a lot of the legwork up front and, when we come to the class, we go some housekeeping

  • matters first of all, making sure everyone's there, make sure they know what rooms they're

  • going to go to. The learning goals will vary by exercise. But just to give you an example,

  • some of these exercises will be design to get the students to ask questions. In particular,

  • types of questions, clarifying questions, probing questions - questions designed to

  • get at the interests that are underlying a particular parties position rather than just

  • simply horse-trading positions back and forth. So that would be one of the learning goals

  • and activities that would be associated with that. In a previous class, we may have actually

  • practiced asking some questions. Now they are doing it in the context of a problem.

  • So this is a personal injury case and the plaintiff in this case was involved in an

  • accident. [...] testify that they did find the chain unbroken and we've used it on a

  • number of projects before. Do you have any information about how the chain might have

  • slipped on the actual event? [...] The students are actually given a couple of letters that

  • the previous lawyer on the file wrote demanding payment, but now that lawyer is out of the

  • picture and a new lawyer has come in, namely the student is acting in the role of the lawyer,

  • and they're having to see if they can settle the case. One of the things is that they have

  • missing facts, so they going to be asking questions to try to get those facts. They'll

  • be trying to ask questions to try to get to the basis behind the numbers that were presented

  • and they might be citing some law to each other as to why the future earnings calculations

  • for example were either supported or unsupported. [...] In the supreme court's discussion of

  • that case, 20% was spoken as a incredulous number, and so I think that my client would

  • be willing to agree to a contingency fee in the range of 3 to 5%. I think that would be

  • reasonable. [...] According to the research we've done in younger people that don't have

  • any type of pre-existing medical condition, there is usually a forward recovery period

  • for both of those injuries. [...] There was no employment agreement. There was no salary

  • to be paid to my client. Well, I'm just trying to figure out was there, was it some sort

  • of a discount? [...] The exercises are usually timed, so they might be anywhere from 15 minutes

  • to an hour and after the exercise is over, the students are asked to do what we call

  • a debriefing within their own group, which means to analyze what it is that had just

  • gone on. I ask them to think about things that they struggled with, things that worked

  • for them, things that didn't work so well, things that they might try differently next

  • time. I also ask them to share their confidential facts will each other and often they are surprised

  • when they read and find out what they discovered and what they didn't discover through their

  • question-asking. Sometimes they will have a regret over the settlement that they reached,

  • but it's all good learning for them - it's a preparatory for them to bring that back

  • to the large group. [...] My strategy was to, like, I really thought we could come to

  • a better agreement. Cody came and worked for her, but again because their was tension,

  • that didn't work out. So my strategy did not work at all. That's why I kept prodding the

  • chain because I thought we have a huge ethical dilemma, you have a huge ethical dilemma.

  • I feel really bad right now that that's probably a sign that I broke my own ethics. Wouldn't

  • it be just as unethical for me to throw my client under the bus just so I don't have

  • to be unethical? If I was in the same situation tomorrow, what would I even say? I don't think

  • I would do too much differently because the outcome that we ended up with accorded with

  • my own personal values. So with the large group debriefing, which usually happens after

  • a break and they've had a chance to talk this over with each other and the groups that they

  • were working in. We come back together as a whole class and, at that point, I usually

  • ask in each group, we talk about if they actually reached a settlement, what terms of that settlement,

  • and why they settled on those particular terms. What were the things that they struggled with,

  • whether they did or didn't reach an agreement, and again what they would do differently next

  • time. One of the differences is there I'm usually asking questions or trying to pull

  • out themes that relate to the readings. So, it's a little more structured in that sense.

  • [...] I think my biggest challenge is asking for that kind of stuff. I don't - I'm not

  • really quite sure how I would have been comfortable asking you, like, how long do you have to

  • live? In terms of probing, I kind of pulled back a bit. So I just asked the general question

  • of can you explain to me in terms of being in suffering how you got to that value. You

  • can't cover every possible, but what could you ask. I found dealing with the client to

  • be something I hadn't anticipated. It was very different then the last negotiation.

  • But then also there can be after issues as well. Applying for remorse on a settlement.

  • Eye contact and you get a signal as to if something is okay or not okay or you need

  • to leave the room to talk about it. This comes up all the time in mediations. Especially

  • in Saskatchewan where you have early mediation in Queen's Bench cases mandated by legislation.

  • My approach was to try and let them hang themselves basically, like it talked about in the text

  • a little bit. Pre-exercise intensive. So a lot of what I'm doing is actually setting

  • up the problem, getting all the logistics straightened out, making sure everyone has

  • rooms to go to, that people are paired off properly and that sort of thing. Creating

  • the problem and creating worksheets or questions to be asked and answered after the negotiation.

  • During the exercise itself, I usually circulate among the various breakout rooms where the

  • students are working on this problem to get a sense of what is going on in each room.

  • I think that first and foremost, an interesting story. Something that is engaging, something

  • that the students can have a bit of fun reading and discussing with complexity, interesting

  • characters. Something that presents some broader issues as well and that requires the reader,

  • assuming that it is a written case, to think analytically about the problem and that's

  • relevant in some way. So, if you can pick cases that are perhaps connected to things

  • in the news, that sort of thing. It would have material in it that the students are

  • required to use to solve the case itself. As well as drawing on the readings or the

  • lecture material that the students would have heard in class. If you can create cases in

  • such a way that you compliment it with peer-based learning, then you create opportunities for

  • students to learn from each other and that enhances the learning experience. Another

  • things that I would say is that it's quite fine to make mistakes in cases. Sometimes

  • the best student learning comes from actually making mistakes and one of the great things

  • about cases and simulations, is that you can make a mistake without hurting a real-world

  • client or customer. I'm more interested in what the students are trying to do in the

  • simulation than the result. The result does count for something, but what's more important

  • to me is that the students are trying to put into practice the things that they've learned

  • in an abstract way. Maybe it means that they're trying to push the envelope or try something

  • that they wouldn't normally be comfortable doing. It might work, or might not work, but

  • at least they've tried and experimented with it and they could see how it goes and their

  • colleagues can give them feedback as well.

I see case-based learning as a form of problem-based learning, essentially. So, the idea of starting

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